Floridalandian-Gothic Crimean War

[Floridalandia]

Ok to clear this up I think we perhaps limit armor to modern standards same thing with guns. Also probably no crazy missiles like an IBM. no wmds. And Probably no orbital bombardment

Romanic, that was EXACTLY what i was thinking of, i just worded it wrong, you are a genius. (also well pay you money if you join our side)

[Romanic Imperium]

Ok to clear this up I think we perhaps limit armor to modern standards same thing with guns. Also probably no crazy missiles like an IBM. no wmds. And Probably no orbital bombardment

Romanic, that was EXACTLY what i was thinking of, i just worded it wrong, you are a genius. (also well pay you money if you join our side)

Thanks! Also if needed I can watch over the threads make sure no godmodding or anything like that. (LOL. How much money we talking about. ICly I can be bribed)

[Phenyzia]

All accepted

Define missiles.

Today missiles come in all shapes and sizes, from shoulder launcher, to stuff like BM-21, to intercontinental.

Also Imma just point this out, PLEASE NO NUKES I'm trying to keep it to be conventional warfare and i know a couple of you probably have nuclear capabilities

I mean, as long as nobody gets any funny ideas of trying to invade the Phenyzian mainland I have no reason to use nukes or any of my other WMDs.

[Romanic Imperium]

All accepted

Also Imma just point this out, PLEASE NO NUKES I'm trying to keep it to be conventional warfare and i know a couple of you probably have nuclear capabilities

I mean, as long as nobody gets any funny ideas of trying to invade the Phenyzian mainland I have no reason to use nukes or any of my other WMDs.

That's a different. But still wmds be prohibited just because you have them does not mean your allowed to use them

[Floridalandia]

I mean, as long as nobody gets any funny ideas of trying to invade the Phenyzian mainland I have no reason to use nukes or any of my other WMDs.

That's a different. But still wmds be prohibited just because you have them does not mean your allowed to use them

Phenyzia, I have no intentions of invading your mainland, if you just stay out of this I will be glad because Gothia started the war, I declared war on him due to his Genocides of my civilians and unarmed officers.

[Floridalandia]

Romanic, that was EXACTLY what i was thinking of, i just worded it wrong, you are a genius. (also well pay you money if you join our side)

Thanks! Also if needed I can watch over the threads make sure no godmodding or anything like that. (LOL. How much money we talking about. ICly I can be bribed)

(im talking like, 100 mil, if not I can raise it)

[Romanic Imperium]

Thanks! Also if needed I can watch over the threads make sure no godmodding or anything like that. (LOL. How much money we talking about. ICly I can be bribed)

(im talking like, 100 mil, if not I can raise it)

[500 mil and we got a deal]

[Floridalandia]

(im talking like, 100 mil, if not I can raise it)

[500 mil and we got a deal]

OK

[Phenyzia]

That's a different. But still wmds be prohibited just because you have them does not mean your allowed to use them

Phenyzia, I have no intentions of invading your mainland, if you just stay out of this I will be glad because Gothia started the war, I declared war on him due to his Genocides of my civilians and unarmed officers.

I mean, I'm definitely intervening, that's a given. This is more of a warning in the case someone decides to try and do a funny during this conflict by invading Phenyzian mainland since that'd consequentially draw a lot more than an up-to-2-million strong expeditionary force into this conflict. Speaking of:



Nation: The Greater Kaiserreich of Phenyzia
Side: Gothic-Crimea
Intervention: Yes
Intervention size (if no on above then just put how you will support): Since the Rapid Reaction Force is already deployed to Muqaddasia this one will consist ofDivisions taken from the Imperial Army of the Rhine and Imperial Army of Greater Mongolia, initial force of 200.000 but potentially escalating the expeditionary force all the way to 2 million during the course of this conflict. Deployment of a joint task force from elements of the Imperial Pacific Fleet: 1 Tyrann-class Supercarrier, 4 Herrscher-class aircraft carriers, 3 Berlthago-class Missile Battlecruisers, dozens of smaller support vessels primarily Kurfürst-class Destroyers as well as heavy air support.

[New Aeyariss]

Im talking like ship armor, tanks id say 700 MM is reasonable since the Abrams tank has 350 MM Also Tank Gun width id say like, 150 MM since abrams tank has 120 MM

Actually, it is a bit wrong claims. Effective RHA on M1A2SEP comes to 950 mm RHA.

[Floridalandia]

ok well then ill make the armor limit 1000mm i guess cause all im getting from this is armor should be higher

[Phenyzia]

ok well then ill make the armor limit 1000mm i guess cause all im getting from this is armor should be higher

Why not just go with a more vague MT description rather than an arbitrary 1000mm limit, essentially if it currently exists irl on a tank it's fair to use? Not to mention armor thickness becomes even more messy if you include stuff like Explosive-reactive armor bricks on top of the normal armor or an APS system.

[Floridalandia]

ok that sounds good

[Floridalandia]

Are we all ready to begin RP?

[New Aeyariss]

ok well then ill make the armor limit 1000mm i guess cause all im getting from this is armor should be higher

Why not just go with a more vague MT description rather than an arbitrary 1000mm limit, essentially if it currently exists irl on a tank it's fair to use? Not to mention armor thickness becomes even more messy if you include stuff like Explosive-reactive armor bricks on top of the normal armor or an APS system.

Also remember that armor values on modern tanks are not equal throughout the tanks.

1000mm is the turret front and 30*. Sides, rear, hull front - all will have lesser values.

[New Aeyariss]

If I may ask a question - what are the population, GDP and military numbers of both sides?

[Floridalandia]

my population is 23 million, my GDP is 1.13 Trillion, and my military size is https://www.nationstates.net/nation=floridalandia/detail=factbook/id=1704651

[Republica Federal de Catalunya]

Here is the problem. My GDP per capita is huge and my population is over 22000 billion.

[New Aeyariss]

Here is the problem. My GDP per capita is huge and my population is over 22000 billion.

We can agree you will limit your involvement to say, few thousand men.

[Floridalandia]

uhhh so he has big population and he can only have a few thousand men? maybe like 100k but not a few thousand

[Republica Federal de Catalunya]

I can downsize my tech level to early cold war. And I said that my initial commitment is only 80000 ground troops.

[Gothian Crimea]

Here is the problem. My GDP per capita is huge and my population is over 22000 billion.

A target rich environment.

[Floridalandia]

Ok when will we begin this rp?

[Phenyzia]

Because I'm a madman using NS population on a 10 times scaled up earth: 12.5 billion, 250 trillion GDP. Phenyzia's standing military including paramilitary forces is presumed to be somewhere between 250 and 300 million, not counting the Landwehr reserve system (Why do you think I keep literal 1950s and even some 1940s era gear stored and maintained, nothing like a doctrine that emphasizes quantity over all).

[Floridalandia]

your point is? Catalunya has like, 10 billion more people.