League of Independent States [OOC and Sign-Ups]

[Floridalandia]

and still its kinda hypocritical to have your friend attack me and not let me retaliate

First of all, the League had nothing to do with your civil war. The Gothic-Floridian war was started by you or rather your attempt to make Gothic your puppet.

Second of all what Northern Wiser does is up to Northern Wiser, just as what I do is up to me and I can easily decide to just intervene on my own outside of the League.

And lastly, being hypocritical is how a lot of politics work, I've made it clear more than once now that while an offensive war requires a cabinet decision a defensive war such as being invaded doesn't and triggers mutual-defence automatically. You could easily just back out of this and leave Crimea alone, but if you insist on invading Crimea don't be surprised if Phenyzia intervenes because they will see this as a chance to show that the League is not just a paper tiger.

BACK OUT? HE IS THE ONE WHO ATTACKED ME, HE GENOCIDED MY OFFICERS AND MY CITIZENS, AND YOUR SAYING THIS IS JUST ABOUT ME MAKING HIM MY PUPPET, YALL REALLY ARE JUST LIKE THE FASCISTS.

[Phenyzia]

First of all, the League had nothing to do with your civil war. The Gothic-Floridian war was started by you or rather your attempt to make Gothic your puppet.

Second of all what Northern Wiser does is up to Northern Wiser, just as what I do is up to me and I can easily decide to just intervene on my own outside of the League.

And lastly, being hypocritical is how a lot of politics work, I've made it clear more than once now that while an offensive war requires a cabinet decision a defensive war such as being invaded doesn't and triggers mutual-defence automatically. You could easily just back out of this and leave Crimea alone, but if you insist on invading Crimea don't be surprised if Phenyzia intervenes because they will see this as a chance to show that the League is not just a paper tiger.

BACK OUT? HE IS THE ONE WHO ATTACKED ME, HE GENOCIDED MY OFFICERS AND MY CITIZENS, AND YOUR SAYING THIS IS JUST ABOUT ME MAKING HIM MY PUPPET, YALL REALLY ARE JUST LIKE THE FASCISTS.

My friend, you need to chill out. This looks dangerously close to mixing IC and OOC.

[Floridalandia]

well guess what?

IM
NOT
BACKING
OUT

[Gothian Crimea]

First of all, the League had nothing to do with your civil war. The Gothic-Floridian war was started by you or rather your attempt to make Gothic your puppet.

Second of all what Northern Wiser does is up to Northern Wiser, just as what I do is up to me and I can easily decide to just intervene on my own outside of the League.

And lastly, being hypocritical is how a lot of politics work, I've made it clear more than once now that while an offensive war requires a cabinet decision a defensive war such as being invaded doesn't and triggers mutual-defence automatically. You could easily just back out of this and leave Crimea alone, but if you insist on invading Crimea don't be surprised if Phenyzia intervenes because they will see this as a chance to show that the League is not just a paper tiger.

BACK OUT? HE IS THE ONE WHO ATTACKED ME, HE GENOCIDED MY OFFICERS AND MY CITIZENS, AND YOUR SAYING THIS IS JUST ABOUT ME MAKING HIM MY PUPPET, YALL REALLY ARE JUST LIKE THE FASCISTS.

Your honor we were just trolling the civilians(OOC: I have test prep and work tonight so wont be able to RP anything/much for a bit.

[Floridalandia]

BACK OUT? HE IS THE ONE WHO ATTACKED ME, HE GENOCIDED MY OFFICERS AND MY CITIZENS, AND YOUR SAYING THIS IS JUST ABOUT ME MAKING HIM MY PUPPET, YALL REALLY ARE JUST LIKE THE FASCISTS.

Your honor we were just trolling the civilians(OOC: I have test prep and work tonight so wont be able to RP anything/much for a bit.

Im sorry, you were trolling our citizens, YOU LITERALLY KILLED THEM AND OUR OFFICERS.

[New Aeyariss]

Phez sufficient to say if Phezynia gets involved, so will Nifon.

[New Aeyariss]

Your honor we were just trolling the civilians(OOC: I have test prep and work tonight so wont be able to RP anything/much for a bit.

Im sorry, you were trolling our citizens, YOU LITERALLY KILLED THEM AND OUR OFFICERS.

Your point being?

[Floridalandia]

Im sorry, you were trolling our citizens, YOU LITERALLY KILLED THEM AND OUR OFFICERS.

Your point being?

So your saying if they commit genocide on my people, i have no right to declare war?

[Floridalandia]

How would you feel if i killed your high commanding officers and your citizens? thats how i feel

[New Aeyariss]

How would you feel if i killed your high commanding officers and your citizens? thats how i feel

First of, I recommend you to chill. This is just a game. There are no "your people" because it a make - believe world.

None here have a problem with you as a person.

Second off, greater Nifon is an imperialistic power forever hungry for resources of others, as it itself has few. It will jump on the bandwagon not due to how you OOCly feel, but because it sees your nation as a perfect target to invade and drain of resources. Morality does not play any role here as Nifon does not care.

[New Roma Republic]

How would you feel if i killed your high commanding officers and your citizens? thats how i feel

First of, I recommend you to chill. This is just a game. There are no "your people" because it a make - believe world.

None here have a problem with you as a person.

Second off, greater Nifon is an imperialistic power forever hungry for resources of others, as it itself has few. It will jump on the bandwagon not due to how you OOCly feel, but because it sees your nation as a perfect target to invade and drain of resources. Morality does not play any role here as Nifon does not care.

the best thing to remember is that IC=/=OOC

(also, hi Cusc)

[New Aeyariss]

First of, I recommend you to chill. This is just a game. There are no "your people" because it a make - believe world.

None here have a problem with you as a person.

Second off, greater Nifon is an imperialistic power forever hungry for resources of others, as it itself has few. It will jump on the bandwagon not due to how you OOCly feel, but because it sees your nation as a perfect target to invade and drain of resources. Morality does not play any role here as Nifon does not care.

the best thing to remember is that IC=/=OOC

(also, hi Cusc)

Hey NR!

It's been what.. 8 years?

[New Roma Republic]

the best thing to remember is that IC=/=OOC

(also, hi Cusc)

Hey NR!

It's been what.. 8 years?

Nah, it's closer to 4ish

[Romanic Imperium]

First of all, the League had nothing to do with your civil war. The Gothic-Floridian war was started by you or rather your attempt to make Gothic your puppet.

Second of all what Northern Wiser does is up to Northern Wiser, just as what I do is up to me and I can easily decide to just intervene on my own outside of the League.

And lastly, being hypocritical is how a lot of politics work, I've made it clear more than once now that while an offensive war requires a cabinet decision a defensive war such as being invaded doesn't and triggers mutual-defence automatically. You could easily just back out of this and leave Crimea alone, but if you insist on invading Crimea don't be surprised if Phenyzia intervenes because they will see this as a chance to show that the League is not just a paper tiger.

BACK OUT? HE IS THE ONE WHO ATTACKED ME, HE GENOCIDED MY OFFICERS AND MY CITIZENS, AND YOUR SAYING THIS IS JUST ABOUT ME MAKING HIM MY PUPPET, YALL REALLY ARE JUST LIKE THE FASCISTS.

Hey calm down. Remember this is just a game. Maybe take a breather

[New Aeyariss]

You know instead of arguing... who would like a military exercise ?

[Phenyzia]

You know instead of arguing... who would like a military exercise ?

I'd be up for it, which reminds me I shall make the IC thread this weekend.

[New Aeyariss]

You know instead of arguing... who would like a military exercise ?

I'd be up for it, which reminds me I shall make the IC thread this weekend.

What kind of scenario do we have in mind?

Perhaps we can make it air combat based?

[Gothian Crimea]

Our entire capital is flying so that is very important.

[New Aeyariss]

Our entire capital is flying so that is very important.

Erhm.... If you are a PMT nation perhaps it is possible, but MT I apologize but it is not.

[North-American-State]

National Information
Full Nation Name: The North American State
Head of State: Jackson Rockwell
Head of Government (if different): n/a
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Jacob Hall
Form of Government: One-party dictatorship
Name of League representative: John Morris
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Yes, 50,000
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury? Yes
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? Yes

[Gothian Crimea]

Very generous in soldiers for the collective. Most impressive.

[North-American-State]

Very generous in soldiers for the collective. Most impressive.

Being a hyper militarized state tends to lead to a large number of soldiers

[Gothian Crimea]

Very generous in soldiers for the collective. Most impressive.

Being a hyper militarized state tends to lead to a large number of soldiers

I would know first hand, our soldiers just aren't likely to even speak the common language, so we couldn't send as many.

[Floridalandia]

How would you feel if i killed your high commanding officers and your citizens? thats how i feel

First of, I recommend you to chill. This is just a game. There are no "your people" because it a make - believe world.

None here have a problem with you as a person.

Second off, greater Nifon is an imperialistic power forever hungry for resources of others, as it itself has few. It will jump on the bandwagon not due to how you OOCly feel, but because it sees your nation as a perfect target to invade and drain of resources. Morality does not play any role here as Nifon does not care.

Whoever joins me in my war on my side will be spared from the harsh punishments ill give to gothic if i win this war.
OOC: also guys sry for the rant up there i was just trying to find a way to react like how a normal nation would, whatever i say on these forums is not my true self, but me simply roleplaying, im sure your all very good people.

[Phenyzia]

I'd be up for it, which reminds me I shall make the IC thread this weekend.

What kind of scenario do we have in mind?

Perhaps we can make it air combat based?

Admittedly air combat is not my area of expertise at all but I'm not opposed to it besides that.