League of Independent States [OOC and Sign-Ups]

by **Phenyzia** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:03 am

OOC: Since my return I noticed an absence of any major anti-democratic alliances, so I figured I might as well try to fix that. For this purpose I present to you: The League of Independent States

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:14 am

National Information
Full Nation Name: The Confederacy of Northern Wiser
Head of State: Hienz Gordle
Head of Government (if different): Hienz Gordle
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Hienz Gordle
Form of Government: Autocrat
Name of League representative: Hienz Gordle
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Yes and 10 divisions
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury? Yes
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? Yes

by **New Aeyariss** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:15 am

National Information
Full Nation Name: The Empire of Greater Nifon
Head of State: Her Augustness the Empress of Nifon
Head of Government (if different): Maki Kojiro, Shogun of the Empire of Greater Nifon..
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Tokugawa Asuka, Minister of Foreign Relations.
Form of Government: Single Party Constitutional Monarchy
Name of League representative: Ono Takeyuki
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: The Empire of Greater Nifon has liquidated the division level in it's military, but two brigades shall be placed at permanent disposal.
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury?: No, the amount is far too large and I recommend it to be lowered. Nifon is willing to offer other contributions though, including military support.
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? Yes.

by **New Aeyariss** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:17 am

Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Yes and 10 divisions

You are aware I hope that using Soviet division (13 000 men) as standard, you are contributing 130 000 soldiers that could be used elsewhere by your nation?

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:19 am

New Aeyariss wrote:National Information
Full Nation Name: The Empire of Greater Nifon
Head of State: Her Augustness the Empress of Nifon
Head of Government (if different): Maki Kojiro, Shogun of the Empire of Greater Nifon..
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Tokugawa Asuka, Minister of Foreign Relations.
Form of Government: Single Party Constitutional Monarchy
Name of League representative: Ono Takeyuki
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: The Empire of Greater Nifon has liquidated the division level in it's military, but two brigades shall be placed at permanent disposal.
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury?: No, the amount is far too large. Nifon is willing to offer other contributions though, including military support.
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? Yes.

Nice to meet you fellow Authoritarian goverment

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:23 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Yes and 10 divisions

You are aware I hope that using Soviet division (13 000 men) as standard, you are contributing 130 000 soldiers that could be used elsewhere by your nation?

Our standered is 15,000 men per divsion

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:24 am

Northern Wiser wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
You are aware I hope that using Soviet division (13 000 men) as standard, you are contributing 130 000 soldiers that could be used elsewhere by your nation?

Our standered is 15,000 men per divsion

We have quite a large military

by **Phenyzia** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:37 am

New Aeyariss wrote:National Information
Full Nation Name: The Empire of Greater Nifon
Head of State: Her Augustness the Empress of Nifon
Head of Government (if different): Maki Kojiro, Shogun of the Empire of Greater Nifon..
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Tokugawa Asuka, Minister of Foreign Relations.
Form of Government: Single Party Constitutional Monarchy
Name of League representative: Ono Takeyuki
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: The Empire of Greater Nifon has liquidated the division level in it's military, but two brigades shall be placed at permanent disposal.
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury?: No, the amount is far too large and I recommend it to be lowered. Nifon is willing to offer other contributions though, including military support.
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? Yes.

Accepted, as this is a first draft I'm definitely open to lowering the annual contribution, 0.5% as an annual contribution sounded reasonable to me personally but I am obviously no economist.

by **Phenyzia** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:40 am

Northern Wiser wrote:National Information
Full Nation Name: The Confederacy of Northern Wiser
Head of State: Hienz Gordle
Head of Government (if different): Hienz Gordle
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Hienz Gordle
Form of Government: Autocrat
Name of League representative: Hienz Gordle
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Yes and 10 divisions
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury? Yes
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? Yes

It's a high number of troops but sure, I'm willing to accept it.

by **The New Puerto transitional republic** » Mon May 16, 2022 6:45 am

National Information
Full Nation Name: The Novian Democratic Republic of Zarnicovia Nova
Head of State: John L. Long
Head of Government (if different):
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Hua J. Xi
Form of Government: either described as illiberal democracy or theocratic autocracy
Name of League representative: Harry L. Wilds
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how we can give air and infrantry battalions.
many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: 15,000 troops 180 support vehicles.
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury? No we’re kinda just not have a lot of money ATM
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League? No we’re keeping with KTO

by **Aursi** » Mon May 16, 2022 7:19 am

So this alliance isn't Democratic?

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 8:52 am

Aursi wrote:So this alliance isn't Democratic?

We are anti Democratic

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 8:55 am

Phenyzia wrote:OOC: Since my return I noticed an absence of any major anti-democratic alliances, so I figured I might as well try to fix that. For this purpose I present to you: The League of Independent States

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The League of Independent States is a political, economical and military alliance created to halt the growth of corrupt and decadent western democratic ideals and to oppose the horrors of communism on a global scale.
Our goal is to offer a safe haven for nations that the so-called-democracries of the world consider evil. As such the League offers a place for both Authoritarian and Totalitarian states. The creation of a League Treasury and a League Grand Army both serve the purpose of ensuring the stability of nations who share these ideals and to combat the rotten and corrupt democracies and socialists of the world.

The League is NOT an alliance of slavers, but we will not condemn any member state who utilizes such practices either. Our goal is to fight the democracies, not eachother.

The Cabinet -The members who run and organize the League
Secretary-General:
Chairman: Phenyzia
Grand Treasurer: Open
Supreme Commander: Open

All members
1. Phenyzia
2. New Aeyariss
3. Northern Wiser

Allied Parties:other political alliances and nations that support our efforts

If you are wishing to join please fill out the following and post it here. (No puppets)

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[u][b]National Information[/b][/u] Full Nation Name: Head of State: Head of Government (if different): Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): Form of Government: Name of League representative: Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury? Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League?

Any nation in the League may go to war of their own accord however the Grand Army may never be deployed for offensive wars without a formal declaration of war, in order to declare war the thread in question must be posted for all to see and after a period of consideration the Supreme Commander, Grand Treasurer and Secretary-General will vote. War may only be declared if all three agree to it. All forces in the Grand Army are full control of Supreme Commander who must use them only in battles pertaining to the voted on conflict, any nation of the League may offer additional support in the form of their own forces either separately or as part of the Grand Army.
Defensive Wars require no such votes, if a member of the League is attacked it is considered an attack on all members of the League and the Grand Army must be deployed in addition to any League member who is capable of doing so deploying their own forces as well against the attacker.
Every League member is obligated to provide a contingent of at least a single full-size division to the Grand Army at all times. These forces may not be conscripts but must be professional troops.

Current Grand Army
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Members of the League are obligated to pay an annual fee of 0.5% of the national GDP to the League's treasury. This money is to be either used by the Supreme Commander for the Grand Army or by the Grand Treasurer to support the League's structure and to offer emergency funds to League members undergoing crisis.

Current Treasury Amount: N/A

The Secretary-General is the head and leader of the League, running it's day-to-day business and ensuring cooperation between the cabinet and regular League members. Elected once every 6 months.

The Chairman is an unelected member of the cabinet, tasked with ensuring that the League remains true to it's goals and ideals. The Chairman has the authority to veto cabinet decisions that would compromise the ideals of the League. Since the chairman is not elected the appointment of a successor is up to the current Chairman, or in the absence of a Chairman, the Secretary-General.

The role of the Grand Treasurer is to keep track of the finances of the League and to ensure that the permanent detachment of the Grand Army is properly funded. It is also their job to offer support to friendly nations suffering from disaster, war or economic crisis. Elected once every 6 months.

The role of the Supreme Commander is to command and coordinate both the Grand Army and combined operations and exercises between League members. The Supreme Commander also decides the equipment issued to troops under command of the Grand Army. Elected once every 6 months.

Can I be the Grand Our first Treasurer? (since with such few people an election would be odd and 6 months is a long time)

by **Southeast Marajarbia** » Mon May 16, 2022 10:46 am

Seems like something that the GCN could work with to keep alliances such as the Kalisight Treaty Organization in check.

by **GreatOceania** » Mon May 16, 2022 10:49 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Seems like something that the GCN could work with to keep alliances such as the Kalisight Treaty Organization in check.

Don’t really know how you gonna keep us in check when you’re not gonna help out fellow GCN members when they’re in a conflict I mean look at IHS you completely abandoned him with only a few GCN members helping.

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 11:34 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Seems like something that the GCN could work with to keep alliances such as the Kalisight Treaty Organization in check.

I thought that GCN was pro democracy

by **Southeast Marajarbia** » Mon May 16, 2022 11:37 am

Northern Wiser wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Seems like something that the GCN could work with to keep alliances such as the Kalisight Treaty Organization in check.

I thought that GCN was pro democracy

GCN is pro-democracy, but even working with anti-democratic states proves to be beneficial, especially against rivals such as KTO.

by **Northern Wiser** » Mon May 16, 2022 11:46 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Northern Wiser wrote:I thought that GCN was pro democracy

GCN is pro-democracy, but even working with anti-democratic states proves to be beneficial, especially against rivals such as KTO.

Ok, just wanted to confrim

by **Janpia** » Mon May 16, 2022 11:55 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Northern Wiser wrote:I thought that GCN was pro democracy

GCN is pro-democracy, but even working with anti-democratic states proves to be beneficial, especially against rivals such as KTO.

Desperation at its finest. KTO chilling rent free on GCN's brains. Ight LIS, goodluck and may it take you some quick realization who your dealing with.

In check? Yea like GO said, you abandoned IHS anyway.

by **Southeast Marajarbia** » Mon May 16, 2022 12:01 pm

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
GCN is pro-democracy, but even working with anti-democratic states proves to be beneficial, especially against rivals such as KTO.

Desperation at its finest. KTO chilling rent free on GCN's brains. Ight LIS, goodluck and may it take you some quick realization who your dealing with.

In check? Yea like GO said, you abandoned IHS anyway.

"Who I'm dealing with" is yet another Anti-Marajarbia faction. KTO's not the first time.

by **Janpia** » Mon May 16, 2022 12:05 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Desperation at its finest. KTO chilling rent free on GCN's brains. Ight LIS, goodluck and may it take you some quick realization who your dealing with.

In check? Yea like GO said, you abandoned IHS anyway.

"Who I'm dealing with" is yet another Anti-Marajarbia faction. KTO's not the first time.

Im referring to the LIS alliance. Not you.

Yes KTO isnt the first time. But it will be your last. UCA is a failure. NATO is fraud elections, even ZN knows it. UF-NATO merge almost didnt happened. Its been nearly months you keep saying KTO is dead.

On reality, IHS the founder is getting invaded. Meretica and SO tried to reform GCN but I bet they also see the mistakes of it. Aursi is a suck up, and its just you left.

by **Southeast Marajarbia** » Mon May 16, 2022 12:09 pm

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"Who I'm dealing with" is yet another Anti-Marajarbia faction. KTO's not the first time.

Im referring to the LIS alliance. Not you.

Yes KTO isnt the first time. But it will be your last. UCA is a failure. NATO is fraud elections, even ZN knows it. UF-NATO merge almost didnt happened. Its been nearly months you keep saying KTO is dead.

On reality, IHS the founder is getting invaded. Meretica and SO tried to reform GCN but I bet they also see the mistakes of it. Aursi is a suck up, and its just you left.

(Bolding mine) Not only are you blurring the IC/OOC line here, but I really like the fact that you think so. Like seriously, I really do appreciate how you think an endless cycle of pro-Marajarbia and anti-Marajarbia will come to an end as soon as you think it will. Obviously, it's endless so long as there's people like myself, but every big alliance has its rival, so it doesn’t quite end with me either.

by **Janpia** » Mon May 16, 2022 12:13 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:Im referring to the LIS alliance. Not you.

Yes KTO isnt the first time. But it will be your last. UCA is a failure. NATO is fraud elections, even ZN knows it. UF-NATO merge almost didnt happened. Its been nearly months you keep saying KTO is dead.

On reality, IHS the founder is getting invaded. Meretica and SO tried to reform GCN but I bet they also see the mistakes of it. Aursi is a suck up, and its just you left.

(Bolding mine) Not only are you blurring the IC/OOC line here, but I really like the fact that you think so. Like seriously, I really do appreciate how you think an endless cycle of pro-Marajarbia and anti-Marajarbia will come to an end as soon as you think it will. Obviously, it's endless so long as there's people like myself, but every big alliance has its rival, so it doesn’t quite end with me either.

Yes, it will be endless if you dont accept defeat. You void every wars against you. Your the only one who first started decanonizing, tearing up the once established MVA lore. You refused to listen to reforms, and would rather do it your own way. I can go on why.

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Mon May 16, 2022 12:17 pm

National Information
Full Nation Name: The Queensdom of Laka Strolistandiler, Crown, Peer and Vol dependencies, Client and Affiliated States and Colonies, Other Controlled Territories
Head of State: By God's hastening mercy, Heilgadra-Davenport the Second, Empress and Aurocrat All-Imperial, Zentkral, Krievan, Fritzhbergen, NeuPreußen, Queen of Zululand, Queen of Alaska, Queen of Nordküst, Tsaritsa of Alkonya, Tsaritsa of Lubenia-Vesbaria, Stateholder of Plsov, Great Duchess of Akstern, Groß-Waisnoria, Eastlandia, etc.; Stateowner and Great Duchess of Newbürg and Daddleburry, Great Seweress of Grand Order of The Unconquered Sun, Empress of Glorybell, Udor, Obudor, Leiji and all of the Central Lands, Ruler and Empress of Stormsaarm, Ditmarsen, Duchess of Habsburg, Viscount of Lashastan and Sovereign of Straugan-Domcas, Kartalinsky and Furg lands and regions of Ethos; Snoyal Scya and Mountain Princess and other Hereditary Sovereigness and Possessor, Sovereign of Esmye; Heiress of Finland, Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein, Snobar, Dreos-Drana and Owhesh and etc, etc, etc.
Head of Government (if different): Her Immortal Sufferness, the Eternal Lord-Protector Teilga HRL, HC
Head of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent): 3rd Earless of Eskershire, Marcella Whitely-Savoy-Döritz the Third
Form of Government: A wild mixture of authoritarian monarchy, stratocracy and non-representative oligarchical parliamentary semi-republic
Name of League representative:
Are you willing to contribute at least a single-division to the League's Grand Army? And if so how many forces are you willing to permanently place under Grand Army command?: Yes- as many as they would request as long as said units are allowed to pull back if ordered.
Are you willing to pay the annual fee of 0.5% of your national GDP to the League's treasury?: Indeed we are
Are you willing to join no other alliances as long as you are a member of the League?: Negative, unfortunately we have to maintain our dynastic and diplomatic ties

by **Southeast Marajarbia** » Mon May 16, 2022 12:19 pm

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
(Bolding mine) Not only are you blurring the IC/OOC line here, but I really like the fact that you think so. Like seriously, I really do appreciate how you think an endless cycle of pro-Marajarbia and anti-Marajarbia will come to an end as soon as you think it will. Obviously, it's endless so long as there's people like myself, but every big alliance has its rival, so it doesn’t quite end with me either.

Yes, it will be endless if you dont accept defeat. You void every wars against you. Your the only one who first started decanonizing, tearing up the once established MVA lore. You refused to listen to reforms, and would rather do it your own way. I can go on why.

Yes, and it will continue to be endless even if GCN/GENA or any future successor to either of those is defeated. It's not only something that happened with my alliance. It actually dates back to around this time in 2020. There's always a big alliance and always a rival, and then a big collapse and power vacuum, and then events that result in minor nations becoming major and the like. It doesn’t end with me is my point.

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