Muqaddasian-Janpian War (IC)

[Janpia]

OOC: It can

OOC: Where does it say that?

OOC:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nextbi ... ystem.html

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: Where does it say that?

OOC:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nextbi ... ystem.html

OOC:
“Michael Kofman, a research scientist specializing in Russian military affairs at the federally funded Center for Naval Analyses, said he is skeptical about the Izvestia report. “I don’t see it as realistic,” Kofman said. “A discarding sabot is a depleted uranium dart, the entire concept is that the material is incredibly dense to serve as a penetrator. The Afghanit APS uses a fragmentation charge and is not liable to do much to the A4—the latest variant—of U.S. munitions. I can see it possibly pushing the dart off course with some sort of hit-to-kill approach, but I doubt much can stop it—besides combinations of ERA [explosive reactive armor] and composite armor.””

[Janpia]

OOC:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nextbi ... ystem.html

OOC:
“Michael Kofman, a research scientist specializing in Russian military affairs at the federally funded Center for Naval Analyses, said he is skeptical about the Izvestia report. “I don’t see it as realistic,” Kofman said. “A discarding sabot is a depleted uranium dart, the entire concept is that the material is incredibly dense to serve as a penetrator. The Afghanit APS uses a fragmentation charge and is not liable to do much to the A4—the latest variant—of U.S. munitions. I can see it possibly pushing the dart off course with some sort of hit-to-kill approach, but I doubt much can stop it—besides combinations of ERA [explosive reactive armor] and composite armor.””

OOC: No shite its not realistic. Just the APFSDS being discarded in the first place doesnt sound reasonable. Though its the same goes for Israeli's iron fist APS which has a video of them discarding APFSDS. Plus, the fragmentation charge used in the APS itself is still unknown. Also, pushing off the dart off course still deflects.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... ergy-round

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-b ... make-17859

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC:
“Michael Kofman, a research scientist specializing in Russian military affairs at the federally funded Center for Naval Analyses, said he is skeptical about the Izvestia report. “I don’t see it as realistic,” Kofman said. “A discarding sabot is a depleted uranium dart, the entire concept is that the material is incredibly dense to serve as a penetrator. The Afghanit APS uses a fragmentation charge and is not liable to do much to the A4—the latest variant—of U.S. munitions. I can see it possibly pushing the dart off course with some sort of hit-to-kill approach, but I doubt much can stop it—besides combinations of ERA [explosive reactive armor] and composite armor.””

OOC: No shite its not realistic. Just the APFSDS being discarded in the first place doesnt sound reasonable. Though its the same goes for Israeli's iron fist APS which has a video of them discarding APFSDS. Plus, the fragmentation charge used in the APS itself is still unknown. Also, pushing off the dart off course still deflects.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... ergy-round

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-b ... make-17859

OOC: Still, it’s dubious. So it could be possible that a few get through, no? And my brain still has not understood whether it can stop RPGs or ATGMs

[Phenyzia]

OOC: No shite its not realistic. Just the APFSDS being discarded in the first place doesnt sound reasonable. Though its the same goes for Israeli's iron fist APS which has a video of them discarding APFSDS. Plus, the fragmentation charge used in the APS itself is still unknown. Also, pushing off the dart off course still deflects.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... ergy-round

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-b ... make-17859

OOC: Still, it’s dubious. So it could be possible that a few get through, no? And my brain still has not understood whether it can stop RPGs or ATGMs

OOC: Imo just for the sake of RP no APS should have a 100% success rate because where's the fun in someone deplyoing an I-Win-Button

[New Aeyariss]

OOC: Still, it’s dubious. So it could be possible that a few get through, no? And my brain still has not understood whether it can stop RPGs or ATGMs

OOC: Imo just for the sake of RP no APS should have a 100% success rate because where's the fun in someone deplyoing an I-Win-Button

OOC: The problem is that IRL wise, they don't have such a rate either. Usually they are efficient to stop perhaps one ATGM - and the next one will hit.

A common tactic in urban areas is to swarm a tank with multiple RPG launches coming at it together at once.

[Janpia]

OOC: No shite its not realistic. Just the APFSDS being discarded in the first place doesnt sound reasonable. Though its the same goes for Israeli's iron fist APS which has a video of them discarding APFSDS. Plus, the fragmentation charge used in the APS itself is still unknown. Also, pushing off the dart off course still deflects.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... ergy-round

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-b ... make-17859

OOC: Still, it’s dubious. So it could be possible that a few get through, no? And my brain still has not understood whether it can stop RPGs or ATGMs

OOC: APS is specifically made to counter ATGMs and RPGs. Its not possible that it could get through if the APS can detect it early.

[Great United States]

OOC:guys,can we get back to RP

[Phenyzia]

OOC: Still, it’s dubious. So it could be possible that a few get through, no? And my brain still has not understood whether it can stop RPGs or ATGMs

OOC: APS is specifically made to counter ATGMs and RPGs. Its not possible that it could get through if the APS can detect it early.

OOC: One missile, sure, but if there's a dozen coming at you your APS can't shoot them all down simultaneously.

[Janpia]

OOC: APS is specifically made to counter ATGMs and RPGs. Its not possible that it could get through if the APS can detect it early.

OOC: One missile, sure, but if there's a dozen coming at you your APS can't shoot them all down simultaneously.

OOC: I know.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: APS is specifically made to counter ATGMs and RPGs. Its not possible that it could get through if the APS can detect it early.

OOC: One missile, sure, but if there's a dozen coming at you your APS can't shoot them all down simultaneously.

OOC: What about with tank ammo? Would that also happen

[Janpia]

OOC: One missile, sure, but if there's a dozen coming at you your APS can't shoot them all down simultaneously.

OOC: What about with tank ammo? Would that also happen

OOC: Yes

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: What about with tank ammo? Would that also happen

OOC: Yes

OOC: So how many tanks were deployed and destroyed?

[Janpia]

OOC: Yes

OOC: So how many tanks were deployed and destroyed?

OOC: So far, 150 were just sent. And we have none so far mainly thanks to intel from helicopters.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: So how many tanks were deployed and destroyed?

OOC: So far, 150 were just sent. And we have none so far mainly thanks to intel from helicopters.

OOC: Intel from helicopters is doing what, exactly?

[Janpia]

OOC: So far, 150 were just sent. And we have none so far mainly thanks to intel from helicopters.

OOC: Intel from helicopters is doing what, exactly?

OOC: Backread. I keep saying that for a while. Including the FCS and BMS coordination. Making it have advantage on when to shoot, when to pop up, and when to attack. Also the accurate shooting part thanks to the FCS with AI controls

[The Free Russian Tzarists]

you should make a new rp from the start with an active and unbiased moderator. this is a shit trench

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: Intel from helicopters is doing what, exactly?

OOC: Backread. I keep saying that for a while. Including the FCS and BMS coordination. Making it have advantage on when to shoot, when to pop up, and when to attack. Also the accurate shooting part thanks to the FCS with AI controls

OOC: I fired first. All your helicopters aren’t going to stop that. And also, I used the Russian technique with hypersonic missiles, that go slowly and stealthily at first and when detection is inevitable they do a hypersonic sprint

[New Aeyariss]

OOC: One missile, sure, but if there's a dozen coming at you your APS can't shoot them all down simultaneously.

OOC: What about with tank ammo? Would that also happen

OOC: Most popular kind of tank ammo today is APFSDS round, which is too fast to intercept by an APS.

[Janpia]

OOC: What about with tank ammo? Would that also happen

OOC: Most popular kind of tank ammo today is APFSDS round, which is too fast to intercept by an APS.

OOC: Afghanit and Iron Fist APS says hello

[Janpia]

OOC: Backread. I keep saying that for a while. Including the FCS and BMS coordination. Making it have advantage on when to shoot, when to pop up, and when to attack. Also the accurate shooting part thanks to the FCS with AI controls

OOC: I fired first. All your helicopters aren’t going to stop that. And also, I used the Russian technique with hypersonic missiles, that go slowly and stealthily at first and when detection is inevitable they do a hypersonic sprint

OOC: How can you fire first, when I have FCS nearly the same as the Type 10? It ensures it can automatically fire without the gunner too. also heli intel can say

"tank on road aiming there. Dont pass. Await for it or flank"

Thus giving the crew a heads up to NOT get shot?

Not to mention live data on to the BMS? Also, it can automatically aim for weakspots basing on the databse, and the AI can give recommendation on whether to back out or not? Gunners dont have to manually aim. Which is similar to Type 10. Plus, all hypersonic missiles start stealthily. And since you said silos, we already know their locations thanks to early satellites before it. We can warn ourselves up ahead.

[Great United States]

OOC:please,lets just rp again

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: I fired first. All your helicopters aren’t going to stop that. And also, I used the Russian technique with hypersonic missiles, that go slowly and stealthily at first and when detection is inevitable they do a hypersonic sprint

OOC: How can you fire first, when I have FCS nearly the same as the Type 10? It ensures it can automatically fire without the gunner too. also heli intel can say

"tank on road aiming there. Dont pass. Await for it or flank"

Thus giving the crew a heads up to NOT get shot?

Not to mention live data on to the BMS? Also, it can automatically aim for weakspots basing on the databse, and the AI can give recommendation on whether to back out or not? Gunners dont have to manually aim. Which is similar to Type 10. Plus, all hypersonic missiles start stealthily. And since you said silos, we already know their locations thanks to early satellites before it. We can warn ourselves up ahead.

OOC: The only part where you said they fired was when you somehow began taking over “key government positions” and ignoring my navy.

[Janpia]

OOC: How can you fire first, when I have FCS nearly the same as the Type 10? It ensures it can automatically fire without the gunner too. also heli intel can say

"tank on road aiming there. Dont pass. Await for it or flank"

Thus giving the crew a heads up to NOT get shot?

Not to mention live data on to the BMS? Also, it can automatically aim for weakspots basing on the databse, and the AI can give recommendation on whether to back out or not? Gunners dont have to manually aim. Which is similar to Type 10. Plus, all hypersonic missiles start stealthily. And since you said silos, we already know their locations thanks to early satellites before it. We can warn ourselves up ahead.

OOC: The only part where you said they fired was when you somehow began taking over “key government positions” and ignoring my navy.

OOC: Answer me this. What is your counter for ramjet sea skimming hypersonic missiles? I fired everything on the fleet, including dummy missiles, guided ones, and hypersonics and I only sunk 3. Not to mention, UAVs tagged those ships earlier. And you did nothing about the UAVs anyway.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

OOC: The only part where you said they fired was when you somehow began taking over “key government positions” and ignoring my navy.

OOC: Answer me this. What is your counter for ramjet sea skimming hypersonic missiles? I fired everything on the fleet, including dummy missiles, guided ones, and hypersonics and I only sunk 3. Not to mention, UAVs tagged those ships earlier. And you did nothing about the UAVs anyway.

OOC: I have a few LAWS over there, but other than that not much. But I think it would be very unlikely that you have developed a whole navy filled with 100% intercept of everything systems. About the UAVs, I a was a bit busy with everything else in my life.