Muqaddasian-Janpian War (OOC, sign-up closed)

[Romanic Imperium]

Some of their leading members are war criminals. Gonswanza arguably has also committed war crimes. And janpia started the war. Your supporting the wrong side . I wish I didn't have too but all of your ships passing through my waters will be detained

to put the "who shot first" argument to rest here is the link to who shot first

viewtopic.php?p=39578222#p39578222

Janpia literally blockaded them its an actvof war look it up if you don't belive me

[GreatOceania]

to put the "who shot first" argument to rest here is the link to who shot first

viewtopic.php?p=39578222#p39578222

Janpia literally blockaded them its an actvof war look it up if you don't belive me

yeah he did start a blockade now muqaddasi had 2 options he could've done it peacefully or attacked and if you read the post correctly

this part here says he was the first to attack

...and no warning was given before cruise missiles and sea skimming missiles were fired. These missiles were built specifically to counter SAMs and other anti-missile systems, as the building of the Katyacha had worried many experts in Muqaddasia. Submarines and midget submarines were deployed, firing supercavitating torpedoes, and so were two carrier groups. Naval bombers took off, accompanied by interceptors. Stealth bombers tried to secretly attack from the sides and the back. The Janpians were ordered to retreat.

[Romanic Imperium]

Janpia literally blockaded them its an actvof war look it up if you don't belive me

yeah he did start a blockade now muqaddasi had 2 options he could've done it peacefully or attacked and if you read the post correctly

this part here says he was the first to attack

...and no warning was given before cruise missiles and sea skimming missiles were fired. These missiles were built specifically to counter SAMs and other anti-missile systems, as the building of the Katyacha had worried many experts in Muqaddasia. Submarines and midget submarines were deployed, firing supercavitating torpedoes, and so were two carrier groups. Naval bombers took off, accompanied by interceptors. Stealth bombers tried to secretly attack from the sides and the back. The Janpians were ordered to retreat.

Janpia for all intents and purposes by international law is the one who started the war

[GreatOceania]

yeah he did start a blockade now muqaddasi had 2 options he could've done it peacefully or attacked and if you read the post correctly

this part here says he was the first to attack

...and no warning was given before cruise missiles and sea skimming missiles were fired. These missiles were built specifically to counter SAMs and other anti-missile systems, as the building of the Katyacha had worried many experts in Muqaddasia. Submarines and midget submarines were deployed, firing supercavitating torpedoes, and so were two carrier groups. Naval bombers took off, accompanied by interceptors. Stealth bombers tried to secretly attack from the sides and the back. The Janpians were ordered to retreat.

Janpia for all intents and purposes by international law is the one who started the war

Do you have any other points besides “by international law yadda yadda”

Janpia started the blockade because Muqaddasi was killing communists because of that it gave him justification to enacted an blockade when he got there Muqaddasi was the first to attack as you can see above but considering you’re probably not gonna read any of this and do research you’re just gonna repeat the “international law” bullshit excuse

[Romanic Imperium]

Janpia for all intents and purposes by international law is the one who started the war

Do you have any other points besides “by international law yadda yadda”

Janpia started the blockade because Muqaddasi was killing communists because of that it gave him justification to enacted an blockade when he got there Muqaddasi was the first to attack as you can see above but considering you’re probably not gonna read any of this and do research you’re just gonna repeat the “international law” bullshit excuse

Yes Muqaddasia could have handled the situation better.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/blockade-warfare

Also here's a nice quote

"A belligerent may not blockade neutral territory unless it is in the actual control or occupation of the enemy, nor may it blockade enemy territory in such a way as to prevent access to neutral territory."

[GreatOceania]

Do you have any other points besides “by international law yadda yadda”

Janpia started the blockade because Muqaddasi was killing communists because of that it gave him justification to enacted an blockade when he got there Muqaddasi was the first to attack as you can see above but considering you’re probably not gonna read any of this and do research you’re just gonna repeat the “international law” bullshit excuse

Yes Muqaddasia could have handled the situation better.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/blockade-warfare

Also here's a nice quote

"A belligerent may not blockade neutral territory unless it is in the actual control or occupation of the enemy, nor may it blockade enemy territory in such a way as to prevent access to neutral territory."

It says here “may not blockade neutral territory unless it is in actual control or occupation of the enemy” IHS isn’t neutral territories considering the killing of CRM members resulting in Janpia taking action in stopping them from killing anymore

[Romanic Imperium]

Yes Muqaddasia could have handled the situation better.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/blockade-warfare

Also here's a nice quote

"A belligerent may not blockade neutral territory unless it is in the actual control or occupation of the enemy, nor may it blockade enemy territory in such a way as to prevent access to neutral territory."

It says here “may not blockade neutral territory unless it is in actual control or occupation of the enemy” IHS isn’t neutral territories considering the killing of CRM members resulting in Janpia taking action in stopping them from killing anymore

Was war declared?

[Janpia]

It says here “may not blockade neutral territory unless it is in actual control or occupation of the enemy” IHS isn’t neutral territories considering the killing of CRM members resulting in Janpia taking action in stopping them from killing anymore

Was war declared?

Pacific Blockade exists

[Romanic Imperium]

Was war declared?

Pacific Blockade exists

To be honest I'm not really familiar with that.

[Gothian Crimea]

Was war declared?

Pacific Blockade exists

[Aumbura]

I'm aiding two nations within the faction, not the faction itself. I'm still very much against Tonga among other members of the KTO. This particular fight has nothing to do with war crimes, and I am merely trying to ensure the continued survival of collectivism. I'm not even putting boots on the ground. By establishing communications with certain members of the KTO, there's a greater possibility of diplomatic justice for war crimes coming into fruition.

Some of their leading members are war criminals. Gonswanza arguably has also committed war crimes. And janpia started the war. Your supporting the wrong side . I wish I didn't have too but all of your ships passing through my waters will be detained

All of your ships passing through my waters will also be detained. Janpia was right to do what they did. GreatOceana is correct, you can't just begin purging communists and not expect collectivist states to fight against you. For all your bellyaching about war crimes, I find it ironic that you would be so against Janpia fighting against political discrimination and mass murder. Believe me when I say that I would like to remain allies Romanic, but I am not backing down from my stance here.

[Romanic Imperium]

Some of their leading members are war criminals. Gonswanza arguably has also committed war crimes. And janpia started the war. Your supporting the wrong side . I wish I didn't have too but all of your ships passing through my waters will be detained

All of your ships passing through my waters will also be detained. Janpia was right to do what they did. GreatOceana is correct, you can't just begin purging communists and not expect collectivist states to fight against you. For all your bellyaching about war crimes, I find it ironic that you would be so against Janpia fighting against political discrimination and mass murder. Believe me when I say that I would like to remain allies Romanic, but I am not backing down from my stance here.

And this was the start of a series of actions that would lead to war

I won't back down from my stance. I'm surprised you forgot what kto has done considering how against them you were in the Roman civil war.

[Romanic Imperium]

Pacific Blockade exists

See

[Janpia]

All of your ships passing through my waters will also be detained. Janpia was right to do what they did. GreatOceana is correct, you can't just begin purging communists and not expect collectivist states to fight against you. For all your bellyaching about war crimes, I find it ironic that you would be so against Janpia fighting against political discrimination and mass murder. Believe me when I say that I would like to remain allies Romanic, but I am not backing down from my stance here.

And this was the start of a series of actions that would lead to war

I won't back down from my stance. I'm surprised you forgot what kto has done considering how against them you were in the Roman civil war.

RP rule, every action, has an equal reaction. Plus, did Cuba launched a war against US despite being allied and under protection of the USSR? No. And like I said, there's tons of nations that has launched blockade out there. How is sanctions different from blockade anyway.

Heck Stalin even launched a blockade against west berlin. Thats why the allies launched the berlin airlift. He lifted it soon

I couldve moved my ships away if they atleast went on for the talks

[Romanic Imperium]

And this was the start of a series of actions that would lead to war

I won't back down from my stance. I'm surprised you forgot what kto has done considering how against them you were in the Roman civil war.

RP rule, every action, has an equal reaction. Plus, did Cuba launched a war against US despite being allied and under protection of the USSR? No. And like I said, there's tons of nations that has launched blockade out there. How is sanctions different from blockade anyway.

Heck Stalin even launched a blockade against west berlin. Thats why the allies launched the berlin airlift. He lifted it soon

I couldve moved my ships away if they atleast went on for the talks

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THE DEFINITION. As I have said MULTIPLE times it depends how the blockaded nation wants to react. Yes Muqaddasia could have tried the diplomatic route. But you still committed AN ACT OF WAR

[Janpia]

RP rule, every action, has an equal reaction. Plus, did Cuba launched a war against US despite being allied and under protection of the USSR? No. And like I said, there's tons of nations that has launched blockade out there. How is sanctions different from blockade anyway.

Heck Stalin even launched a blockade against west berlin. Thats why the allies launched the berlin airlift. He lifted it soon

I couldve moved my ships away if they atleast went on for the talks

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THE DEFINITION. As I have said MULTIPLE times it depends how the blockaded nation wants to react. Yes Muqaddasia could have tried the diplomatic route. But you still committed AN ACT OF WAR

And what's wrong with it? An act of war and so what? Your point? And that said "act of war" is justified.

[Gothian Crimea]

Who counts as the war started is up to the trial/agreement area.

[Gonswanza]

Who counts as the war started is up to the trial/agreement area.

I aint heard no bell and Baghdad is still mostly intact... Well, if smoldering rubble surrounding the core of the city counts as such.

[Romanic Imperium]

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THE DEFINITION. As I have said MULTIPLE times it depends how the blockaded nation wants to react. Yes Muqaddasia could have tried the diplomatic route. But you still committed AN ACT OF WAR

And what's wrong with it? An act of war and so what? Your point? And that said "act of war" is justified.

Still illegal. Yes Muqaddasia does need to stop being genocidal but maybe don't jump towards punishing the entire population

[Janpia]

And what's wrong with it? An act of war and so what? Your point? And that said "act of war" is justified.

Still illegal. Yes Muqaddasia does need to stop being genocidal but maybe don't jump towards punishing the entire population

All wars can be legal if it has legitimate casus belli

[Phenyzia]

And what's wrong with it? An act of war and so what? Your point? And that said "act of war" is justified.

Still illegal. Yes Muqaddasia does need to stop being genocidal but maybe don't jump towards punishing the entire population

Doesn't qualify as a genocide IMO, it was only a political purge.

[Civia Welephilostopia]

Your nation's full title: The Republic of Civia Welephilostopia
Side supporting: Nuetral
Military Intervention: Yes
How large is your intervention?: 3 frigates + 3,000 peacekeepers to make sure that no warcrimes are commited.

Edit:
Add $3 Billion in Medical Supplies + Food.

[Charoskania]

Your nation's full title: Kingdom of Charoskania
Side supporting: Neutral
Military Intervention: (Yes/No) No, medical supplies
How large is your intervention?: A few 10 thousand.

[Aumbura]

And what's wrong with it? An act of war and so what? Your point? And that said "act of war" is justified.

Still illegal. Yes Muqaddasia does need to stop being genocidal but maybe don't jump towards punishing the entire population

What is legal and what is moral is not always the same. Your hatred for the KTO has blinded you. In this fight against political purging and ideological censorship, all you can focus on is your own bitterness.

[Janpia]

Still illegal. Yes Muqaddasia does need to stop being genocidal but maybe don't jump towards punishing the entire population

What is legal and what is moral is not always the same. Your hatred for the KTO has blinded you. In this fight against political purging and ideological censorship, all you can focus on is your own bitterness.

Yea. Like he even has a reason why he fights KTO. Asked him that alot already. Just salty that I downgraded him to observer for attacking us with gas during Aursi