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Hiram Land
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Postby Hiram Land » Mon May 23, 2022 6:21 am

Romanic Imperium wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:Hiram Land, as part of the KTO, is willing to provide medical equipment and MREs (with flameless ration heaters) towards civilians affected in the war. We have the necessary supplies to provide aid for the civilians affected and we do not wish to partake in this war besides humanitarian affairs.


Finally someone who isn't a fucking war criminal

I'm going to send my zillionth fleet with 900 aircraft carriers to Muqaddasia (this was not a serious statement lads)
Seems like I might be the only ones doing it, though I've probably missed someone.
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Mon May 23, 2022 6:22 am

Hiram Land wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
Finally someone who isn't a fucking war criminal

I'm going to send my zillionth fleet with 900 aircraft carriers to Muqaddasia (this was not a serious statement lads)
Seems like I might be the only ones doing it, though I've probably missed someone.


IHC is gonna and ima help with construction an transport
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Postby GreatOceania » Mon May 23, 2022 6:28 am

Janpia wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
Finally someone who isn't a fucking war criminal


Says the guy that uses gas on Aursi War

https://www.britannica.com/event/Geneva-Gas-Protocol


And remember even if it’s non-lethal gas such as tear gas or sleeping gas it still violates the Geneva Gas Protocol

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Postby Hiram Land » Mon May 23, 2022 6:31 am

Your nation's full title: Republic of Hiram Land
Side supporting: While we are part of the KTO, put us down as Neutral as we won't be sending arms to either side (only to civilians affected)
Military Intervention: (Yes/No) No
How large is your intervention?: At the start, around 50 to 100 tons of MREs and flameless ration heaters, alongside 100 boxes of water purification tablets and equipment alongside medical bags, gowns, bandages and other medical equipment, delivered by planes marked with Red Cross/Crescent symbols - alongside a cruise ship modified for medical service including two operating rooms, enough housing for 350 inpatients and a emergency room of 50 beds.

We may also provide gas masks to civilians affected, though this is up to Parliament.
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Mon May 23, 2022 6:34 am

Janpia wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
Finally someone who isn't a fucking war criminal


Says the guy that uses gas on Aursi War

https://www.britannica.com/event/Geneva-Gas-Protocol


It's not illegal to us. We use a lot to incapacitate terrorists
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Postby GreatOceania » Mon May 23, 2022 6:47 am

Romanic Imperium wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Says the guy that uses gas on Aursi War

https://www.britannica.com/event/Geneva-Gas-Protocol


It's not illegal to us. We use a lot to incapacitate terrorists


Depends where if you’re using on your soil that’s allowed as tear gas is used as crowd control and Russians once used sleeping gas to incapacitate some terrorist and civilians however if used on a battlefield that’s a war crime
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Mon May 23, 2022 6:49 am

GreatOceania wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
It's not illegal to us. We use a lot to incapacitate terrorists


Depends where if you’re using on your soil that’s allowed as tear gas is used as crowd control and Russians once used sleeping gas to incapacitate some terrorist and civilians however if used on a battlefield that’s a war crime


At least it didn't kill anybody. Whereas your literally killing 100s of thousands of people and don't think I forgot what you did in the Romanic civil war
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Postby GreatOceania » Mon May 23, 2022 7:08 am

Romanic Imperium wrote:
GreatOceania wrote:
Depends where if you’re using on your soil that’s allowed as tear gas is used as crowd control and Russians once used sleeping gas to incapacitate some terrorist and civilians however if used on a battlefield that’s a war crime


At least it didn't kill anybody. Whereas your literally killing 100s of thousands of people and don't think I forgot what you did in the Romanic civil war


Again non-lethal gas still counts as a war crime

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Postby Alfordshire » Mon May 23, 2022 7:09 am

Hiram Land wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
Finally someone who isn't a fucking war criminal

I'm going to send my zillionth fleet with 900 aircraft carriers to Muqaddasia (this was not a serious statement lads)
Seems like I might be the only ones doing it, though I've probably missed someone.


Alfordshire is going to send an mini-carrier group accompanied by a panamax container ship and 4 humanitarian aid ships. (if we get accepted.)
With a few nations throwing around warcrimes like candy, might want to get those folks escorted.
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Mon May 23, 2022 7:13 am

GreatOceania wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
At least it didn't kill anybody. Whereas your literally killing 100s of thousands of people and don't think I forgot what you did in the Romanic civil war


Again non-lethal gas still counts as a war crime


Not in our books
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Postby Janpia » Mon May 23, 2022 7:31 am

Romanic Imperium wrote:
GreatOceania wrote:
Again non-lethal gas still counts as a war crime


Not in our books


Widely accepted here is Geneva. No one cares if its in your books or not

Fine, by the book, Oceania killing or supressing people is normal to them. Freedom is slavery stuff.

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Mon May 23, 2022 11:34 am

Alfordshire wrote:Your nation's full title: Republic of Alfordshire

Side supporting: Janpia. Official humanitarian deployment, unofficial intelligence support and AIA doing shenanigans behind enemy lines. It is an active war-zone, so the humanitarian component will be escorted by a Naval Landing Task Force based around the RAS Gomlar, a Eagle Class Amphibious Warfare Ship capable of carrying 3 squadrons of jumpjets and a quartet of ASW helicopters. Humanitarian aid will be secured and distributed by Alfordshirian Marines acting as peacekeepers.

Military Intervention: Somewhat. If anyone touches the RAS Charity or Healer with an hostile intent, the Task Force will respond and a full military response will be authorized. All ships will be escorted if they are going into an active war-zone. In any other case, the NLTF will patrol the seas ensuring that sea lanes are open and rescuing survivors from naval battles, if any.

How large is your intervention?:
-- ORBAT --

RAS Gomlar, Eagle Class AWS. (3x CIWS, 2x Dual-Quad missile launchers)
RAS Thunderer, Inspiration Class Cruiser. (150x VLS Cells, 120mm Dual, 2x CIWS Systems)
RAS Innovation, Johnston Class Destroyer. (100x VLS Cells, 76mm Autocannon, 2x CIWS Systems)
RAS Newleigh, Johnston Class Destroyer. (100x VLS Cells, 76mm Autocannon, 2x CIWS Systems)
RAS Biggen, Screener Class ASW Frigate. (20x VLS Cells, Sonobouys, TM23 Homing Torpedoes, ARS/33 Advanced Sonar System)
RAS Elern, Hunter Class Submarine. (10x VLS Cells, ARS/44 Sonar, TM23 Homing Torpedoes)
RAS Ipona, Hunter Class Submarine. (10x VLS Cells, ARS/44 Sonar, TM23 Homing Torpedoes)
--HUMANITARIAN--
RAS Charity, Charity Class Humanitarian Aid Ship (500 Medical Beds, Humanitarian Aid Package)
RAS Generosity, Charity Class Humanitarian Aid Ship (500 Medical Beds, Humanitarian Aid Package)
RAS Healer, Healer Class Medical Ship (1200 Medical Beds)
RAS Doctor, Healer Class Medical Ship (1200 Medical Beds)
RAS Teacher, Panamax Container Ship (Humanitarian Aid, prebuilt temporary housing, construction vehicles, etc.)


ASAS-23, Air Superiority Wing. (MRF73N Jumpjets)
ASDW-22, Air Defense Wing. (MRF73N Jumpjets)
ASGSW, Ground Support Wing. (MRF73N Jumpjets)


30th Expeditionary Unit, Alfordshirian NLF
45x Assorted Vehicles
300x Men


10x Men
1x Blank Check (debit cards with a whole lotta money on them.)
1x SH-20 Stealth Helicopter
2x Unmarked Civilian Vehicles (to be acquired inside Muqasaddasan)
Notes: Will require support to be flown in theatre.


Notes: New nation, been playing NS since 2020. Have some RP experience under my belt.

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Postby Gonswanza » Mon May 23, 2022 10:23 pm

Your nation's full title: Armed Republic of Gonswanza
Side supporting: KTO/Japania
Military Intervention: Yes
How large is your intervention?: (support) 3x A-410 "Toby"s, each armed with 2x M240s(in one car), 4x Pantsir-M (modified for use on land) in two cars, 2x M160 mortars (in one car), 4x armored infantry cars, 2x command and control cars, 1x G6 artillery car. Two engines each, with all the crew necessary (infantry cars carry 20x men each, fully loaded, with UGVs)

*Note: Flatcars, fuelcars, and (armored) boxcars will be supplied as needed to deliver supplies or run logistics once the primary mission is complete.
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Postby Janpia » Mon May 23, 2022 10:39 pm

Gonswanza wrote:Your nation's full title: Armed Republic of Gonswanza
Side supporting: KTO/Japania
Military Intervention: Yes
How large is your intervention?: (support) 3x A-410 "Toby"s, each armed with 2x M240s(in one car), 4x Pantsir-M (modified for use on land) in two cars, 2x M160 mortars (in one car), 4x armored infantry cars, 2x command and control cars, 1x G6 artillery car. Two engines each, with all the crew necessary (infantry cars carry 20x men each, fully loaded, with UGVs)

*Note: Flatcars, fuelcars, and (armored) boxcars will be supplied as needed to deliver supplies or run logistics once the primary mission is complete.


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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Tue May 24, 2022 12:05 am

Gonswanza wrote:Your nation's full title: Armed Republic of Gonswanza
Side supporting: KTO/Japania
Military Intervention: Yes
How large is your intervention?: (support) 3x A-410 "Toby"s, each armed with 2x M240s(in one car), 4x Pantsir-M (modified for use on land) in two cars, 2x M160 mortars (in one car), 4x armored infantry cars, 2x command and control cars, 1x G6 artillery car. Two engines each, with all the crew necessary (infantry cars carry 20x men each, fully loaded, with UGVs)

*Note: Flatcars, fuelcars, and (armored) boxcars will be supplied as needed to deliver supplies or run logistics once the primary mission is complete.

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Postby Janpia » Tue May 24, 2022 1:07 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Your nation's full title: Armed Republic of Gonswanza
Side supporting: KTO/Japania
Military Intervention: Yes
How large is your intervention?: (support) 3x A-410 "Toby"s, each armed with 2x M240s(in one car), 4x Pantsir-M (modified for use on land) in two cars, 2x M160 mortars (in one car), 4x armored infantry cars, 2x command and control cars, 1x G6 artillery car. Two engines each, with all the crew necessary (infantry cars carry 20x men each, fully loaded, with UGVs)

*Note: Flatcars, fuelcars, and (armored) boxcars will be supplied as needed to deliver supplies or run logistics once the primary mission is complete.

Rejected


Those are reinforcements anyway. Accepted

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Postby Civia Welephilostopia » Tue May 24, 2022 1:14 am

Your nation's full title: The Republic of Civia Welephilostopia
Side supporting: Nuetral
Military Intervention: Yes
How large is your intervention?: 3 frigates + 3,000 peacekeepers to make sure that no warcrimes are commited.
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Postby Janpia » Wed May 25, 2022 5:44 pm

IHS, Gonswanza exists on everyone's lores. I'm still keeping the attack on New Najaf. Also, how can your UUVs even arrive in the beaches when I did comb the entire coast there earlier? Anti-mines, everything. Also, my jets travel at Mach 2.8. Im sure it has escaped already. You shooting down UAVs? Yea like I said, all under the defense of nearby LaWS and helicopter DIRCMs. 7km worth of range are nothing when your fighting in the city. Which is about to be taken anyway.

Plus how can you have hypersonics, again despite me bombing those factories?
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Postby Gonswanza » Wed May 25, 2022 6:41 pm

Janpia wrote:IHS, Gonswanza exists on everyone's lores. I'm still keeping the attack on New Najaf. Also, how can your UUVs even arrive in the beaches when I did comb the entire coast there earlier? Anti-mines, everything. Also, my jets travel at Mach 2.8. Im sure it has escaped already. You shooting down UAVs? Yea like I said, all under the defense of nearby LaWS and helicopter DIRCMs. 7km worth of range are nothing when your fighting in the city. Which is about to be taken anyway.

Plus how can you have hypersonics, again despite me bombing those factories?

That's paired to repeat strikes against infrastructure necessary to keep those factories running, plus the factories themselves, via cruise missiles from TU-160M2s... Not to mention the near-total destruction of radar facilities within Iraq and parts of Iran.

Plus with what seems like every last defense thrown to the west in spite of movements to the east and north, plus actions taken from the gulf, it's not hard to see that New Najaf will fall under threat easily and quickly given an entire front being blatantly ignored.
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Thu May 26, 2022 8:54 am

Janpia wrote:IHS, Gonswanza exists on everyone's lores. I'm still keeping the attack on New Najaf. Also, how can your UUVs even arrive in the beaches when I did comb the entire coast there earlier? Anti-mines, everything. Also, my jets travel at Mach 2.8. Im sure it has escaped already. You shooting down UAVs? Yea like I said, all under the defense of nearby LaWS and helicopter DIRCMs. 7km worth of range are nothing when your fighting in the city. Which is about to be taken anyway.

Plus how can you have hypersonics, again despite me bombing those factories?

Well, I’m not. By ports a bit further north? Maybe? Also, your jets can somehow evade all when there are planes actively patrolling areas? About the UAVs, you really are going to protect every single damn drone in a large city? How did you manage to shoot down my drones, with my SAMs here? I just need to be able to reach you before you hit me.

Because you can’t destroy every damn factory in my whole nation.
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Postby Janpia » Thu May 26, 2022 9:00 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:IHS, Gonswanza exists on everyone's lores. I'm still keeping the attack on New Najaf. Also, how can your UUVs even arrive in the beaches when I did comb the entire coast there earlier? Anti-mines, everything. Also, my jets travel at Mach 2.8. Im sure it has escaped already. You shooting down UAVs? Yea like I said, all under the defense of nearby LaWS and helicopter DIRCMs. 7km worth of range are nothing when your fighting in the city. Which is about to be taken anyway.

Plus how can you have hypersonics, again despite me bombing those factories?

Well, I’m not. By ports a bit further north? Maybe? Also, your jets can somehow evade all when there are planes actively patrolling areas? About the UAVs, you really are going to protect every single damn drone in a large city? How did you manage to shoot down my drones, with my SAMs here? I just need to be able to reach you before you hit me.

Because you can’t destroy every damn factory in my whole nation.


I already posted ALOT about planes ever since Im landing, hunting RI fleets, and sending UAVs. You didnt answered to them until I landed my troops and actually used my jets who are long up there. And no, with the range of jets, you actually can destroy all factories of the nation. If only you can bring more stuff on loadouts instead. SAMs? We already did SEAD. Including route 1 and 55. And the Hisshins are much more faster than those X-31s. We can evade it quite easily. Drones? LaWS exists.

Also, anti-drone gun exists for infantry.

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Postby GreatOceania » Thu May 26, 2022 9:03 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:IHS, Gonswanza exists on everyone's lores. I'm still keeping the attack on New Najaf. Also, how can your UUVs even arrive in the beaches when I did comb the entire coast there earlier? Anti-mines, everything. Also, my jets travel at Mach 2.8. Im sure it has escaped already. You shooting down UAVs? Yea like I said, all under the defense of nearby LaWS and helicopter DIRCMs. 7km worth of range are nothing when your fighting in the city. Which is about to be taken anyway.

Plus how can you have hypersonics, again despite me bombing those factories?

Well, I’m not. By ports a bit further north? Maybe? Also, your jets can somehow evade all when there are planes actively patrolling areas? About the UAVs, you really are going to protect every single damn drone in a large city? How did you manage to shoot down my drones, with my SAMs here? I just need to be able to reach you before you hit me.

Because you can’t destroy every damn factory in my whole nation.


let's see Drone can have both their Radio and GPS signals jammed and they're not immune to radars-based weapons something I have been constantly doing in Egypt but you couldn't understand it and kept on using them. you can target and locate SAMs before you even get into the radar range with Beyond Visual Range Missiles

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Thu May 26, 2022 9:06 am

GreatOceania wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Well, I’m not. By ports a bit further north? Maybe? Also, your jets can somehow evade all when there are planes actively patrolling areas? About the UAVs, you really are going to protect every single damn drone in a large city? How did you manage to shoot down my drones, with my SAMs here? I just need to be able to reach you before you hit me.

Because you can’t destroy every damn factory in my whole nation.


let's see Drone can have both their Radio and GPS signals jammed and they're not immune to radars-based weapons something I have been constantly doing in Egypt but you couldn't understand it and kept on using them. you can target and locate SAMs before you even get into the radar range with Beyond Visual Range Missiles

Which also have countermeasures. If all drones could be stopped by jamming drones wouldn’t be nearly as important
And also my aircraft.
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Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Well, I’m not. By ports a bit further north? Maybe? Also, your jets can somehow evade all when there are planes actively patrolling areas? About the UAVs, you really are going to protect every single damn drone in a large city? How did you manage to shoot down my drones, with my SAMs here? I just need to be able to reach you before you hit me.

Because you can’t destroy every damn factory in my whole nation.


I already posted ALOT about planes ever since Im landing, hunting RI fleets, and sending UAVs. You didnt answered to them until I landed my troops and actually used my jets who are long up there. And no, with the range of jets, you actually can destroy all factories of the nation. If only you can bring more stuff on loadouts instead. SAMs? We already did SEAD. Including route 1 and 55. And the Hisshins are much more faster than those X-31s. We can evade it quite easily. Drones? LaWS exists.

Also, anti-drone gun exists for infantry.

Because I have to reply to all the countries invading me, so of course I might not see parts of your posts
And I can use my planes to shoot down yours?
And I couldn’t reply because I was busy. And I did say that I was moving my SAMs from the north and centre to the war zones, I think
The X-31s are meant for stealth. And besides, I used the Muqatil, which is faster, to chase you. My air defence does not lie completely on X-31s.
Your LaWS are going to protect every single drone you have whilst also being attacked by UUVs and subs. Of course.
And what about my other means of reconnaissance?
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Postby Janpia » Thu May 26, 2022 9:21 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
GreatOceania wrote:
let's see Drone can have both their Radio and GPS signals jammed and they're not immune to radars-based weapons something I have been constantly doing in Egypt but you couldn't understand it and kept on using them. you can target and locate SAMs before you even get into the radar range with Beyond Visual Range Missiles

Which also have countermeasures. If all drones could be stopped by jamming drones wouldn’t be nearly as important
And also my aircraft.
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I already posted ALOT about planes ever since Im landing, hunting RI fleets, and sending UAVs. You didnt answered to them until I landed my troops and actually used my jets who are long up there. And no, with the range of jets, you actually can destroy all factories of the nation. If only you can bring more stuff on loadouts instead. SAMs? We already did SEAD. Including route 1 and 55. And the Hisshins are much more faster than those X-31s. We can evade it quite easily. Drones? LaWS exists.

Also, anti-drone gun exists for infantry.

Because I have to reply to all the countries invading me, so of course I might not see parts of your posts
And I can use my planes to shoot down yours?
And I couldn’t reply because I was busy. And I did say that I was moving my SAMs from the north and centre to the war zones, I think
The X-31s are meant for stealth. And besides, I used the Muqatil, which is faster, to chase you. My air defence does not lie completely on X-31s.
Your LaWS are going to protect every single drone you have whilst also being attacked by UUVs and subs. Of course.
And what about my other means of reconnaissance?


You cant really shoot down mine, since I have gained access of the entire coast, and guarding any jets from the east (see posts way earlier). If they ever detect some, they can destroy it, before your radars can detect them. And if theyre spotted, they can simply outrun it. Moving SAMs into the warzones just puts it into the death traps of SEAD. Especially since the airspace is being contested.

UUV's how can you even place it when I comb the entire coast from Route 55? Im only at 2 cities which are all under LaWS. Theyre by the sea remember? Sending drones there doesnt help.

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Thu May 26, 2022 9:25 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Which also have countermeasures. If all drones could be stopped by jamming drones wouldn’t be nearly as important
And also my aircraft.
Because I have to reply to all the countries invading me, so of course I might not see parts of your posts
And I can use my planes to shoot down yours?
And I couldn’t reply because I was busy. And I did say that I was moving my SAMs from the north and centre to the war zones, I think
The X-31s are meant for stealth. And besides, I used the Muqatil, which is faster, to chase you. My air defence does not lie completely on X-31s.
Your LaWS are going to protect every single drone you have whilst also being attacked by UUVs and subs. Of course.
And what about my other means of reconnaissance?


You cant really shoot down mine, since I have gained access of the entire coast, and guarding any jets from the east (see posts way earlier). If they ever detect some, they can destroy it, before your radars can detect them. And if theyre spotted, they can simply outrun it. Moving SAMs into the warzones just puts it into the death traps of SEAD. Especially since the airspace is being contested.

UUV's how can you even place it when I comb the entire coast from Route 55? Im only at 2 cities which are all under LaWS. Theyre by the sea remember? Sending drones there doesnt help.

You have controlled part of Jeddah. That is not “the entire coast”.

You don’t control the entire coast. I just send from north Arabia or Egypt. Job done.
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