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Postby Soviet Seychelles » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:42 pm

No what I mean is that my part in this is the struggle over colonialism and I would follow with you all no matter what you did. But I'd create a side thing sort of to create my own nations history for my self to clear up, but also showing the troubles that people faced bac then. So basically what you all are doing i am gonna do to, but i am also doing a side thing as well.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:45 pm

Santheres wrote:
Free Outer Eugenia wrote:I could throw in some Eugenian pirates into the mix as well...
If we're operating during the "Scramble for Eugenia" then pirates would be par for the course.


If we go with that, I think I would be making wide use of them as privateers, if you don't mind. As in handing out letter of marque like candy.

That works. But expect a good portion of them to hold your enemies letters of marque as well as to sail under several flags, sink everyone's ships and collect bounties all around to supplement the plunder :p
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Santheres » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:47 pm

Free Outer Eugenia wrote:That works. But expect a good portion of them to hold your enemies letters of marque as well as to sail under several flags, sink everyone's ships and collect bounties all around to supplement the plunder :p


Such is the risk, isn't it. :P
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:14 pm

Seems like our two themes are "Colonialism" and "Pirates!"

As far as technology goes, Jimanistan would be a bit behind as well, depending upon what time period we specifically nail down...

Speaking of which, what's a vague window of time we can agree on? 1780's?

That would have been my suggestion, if only because of the beginning of the use of the rifle in addition to the already-established musket.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Santheres » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:33 pm

Jimanistan wrote:Seems like our two themes are "Colonialism" and "Pirates!"

As far as technology goes, Jimanistan would be a bit behind as well, depending upon what time period we specifically nail down...

Speaking of which, what's a vague window of time we can agree on? 1780's?

That would have been my suggestion, if only because of the beginning of the use of the rifle in addition to the already-established musket.


1780s works for me. The latter half 18th century in generally just perfect for me since it's the period in which my country evolved into a kleptocracy, but isn't quite far enough that I've stagnated so as to completely remove me from the international stage (which happened around 1830-1860).
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Sorgan » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:37 pm

OoC: I recently had a government change to Democratic socialists tell me if you can do something with a new leader that tries to get Unity and Equality across the nation.

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Postby Jimanistan » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:39 pm

Sorgan wrote:OoC: I recently had a government change to Democratic socialists tell me if you can do something with a new leader that tries to get Unity and Equality across the nation.


No need to make an 'ooc' tag when the thread itself is out-of-character... Anyway, that really doesn't have much to do with the 18th century, or the RP we've been hammering out.

Telegram me, though, I'm vaguely intrigued.
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Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:25 am

Bump for the morning...
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:42 pm

Anybody else have some thoughts?

I'm pretty happy with what we've been coming up with, thus far.
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Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:44 pm

I think that a list of things that you think need clearing up before we can start would be helpful at this point.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:09 pm

Good point...

1: How precisely to begin.

2: A vague idea of the outcome.

3: That's about all I have, if anyone else can think of anything else that needs clarification, now's a good time to bring it up...
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:22 pm

Well...

I suppose for the first point... Officials from Jimanistan and Telvira could meet (in either country, I don't think it would make much of a difference) to discuss an end to their squabbles over their colonial posessions in Outer Eugenia. They could conclude that they would be better off allied (through a political marriage, esentially an exchange of hostages), with both of their colonies being jointly run.

This would make Santheres nervous, considering their possessions in the area would be endangered by a shift in the Balance of Power... Suppose their colony was relatively untouched by foreigners, because the Telvirans and Jimani were busy fighting one another.

At that point, Santheres could begin aiding and funding the resistant Eugenians, who decide to try and kill off as many leaders of both contries as possible, by exploiting the forthcoming event. And then we've got pirates in there, disrupting trade and military supply lines.

After that, I don't know... I'd suggest letting it roll from that.

But I just pulled all that out of my ass as I was writing it... Other thoughts are good, too ;)
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Telvira » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:26 pm

How about...

Mine and Jimani's characters are en route to a marriage in the colony, when pirates attack the ship, forcing the pair to crash on the shore, whereupon they must try and reach safety in a city some distance away, while doging Santheres-hired Eugenian mercs trying to kill them.

Eh, eh?
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Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:27 pm

At that point, Santheres could begin aiding and funding the resistant Eugenians, who decide to try and kill off as many leaders of both contries as possible
I thought that we were going to kill the monarch of one of the nations in such a way as to lay the blame on the other nation and thus cause an international incident that would intensify the conflict between the two nations rather than settling it in a dynastic marriage.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:31 pm

Telvira wrote:How about...

Mine and Jimani's characters are en route to a marriage in the colony, when pirates attack the ship, forcing the pair to crash on the shore, whereupon they must try and reach safety in a city some distance away, while doging Santheres-hired Eugenian mercs trying to kill them.

Eh, eh?
If you don't mind, I'll be setting the native hazards (human and otherwise) on the Eugenian terrain. Remember- Outer Eugenia is a patchwork of mutually contested colonies with perhaps an insurgent slave-revolt republic here and there.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Telvira » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:32 pm

OK, the colony will be in Outer Eugenia. That work?
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Santheres » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:35 pm

I've no ideas because I'm uncreative today! But, I do like what I'm hearing. Will check back later, tomorrow at the latest.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:38 pm

Free Outer Eugenia wrote:
At that point, Santheres could begin aiding and funding the resistant Eugenians, who decide to try and kill off as many leaders of both contries as possible
I thought that we were going to kill the monarch of one of the nations in such a way as to lay the blame on the other nation and thus cause an international incident that would intensify the conflict between the two nations rather than settling it in a dynastic marriage.


I wouldn't mind the King of Jimanistan dying, I plan on playing him out to be a jerk... I just wasn't sure who we really wanted to die.
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Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:05 pm

Doesn't have to be a monarch. Just someone important- someone whose death would cripple diplomatic relations with the suspected perpetrator. I don't see the point of hitting officials on both sides in what is essentially a false flag operation. The very fact that one side's people were hit and not the others would be an important point of the ruse.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:09 pm

Free Outer Eugenia wrote:Doesn't have to be a monarch. Just someone important- someone whose death would cripple diplomatic relations with the suspected perpetrator. I don't see the point of hitting officials on both sides in what is essentially a false flag operation. The very fact that one side's people were hit and not the others would be an important point of the ruse.


That's true, I suppose I didn't quite think that through completely.... Still, if the king of Jimanistan were to die, I think Telvira would immeadiately be blamed, considering that the Jimani don't really trust foreigners anyway... And it'd really piss off whomever succeeds the King, and so it would probably initiate hostilities in short order.
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Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:15 pm

Jimanistan wrote:And it'd really piss off whomever succeeds the King
Only if they didn't want to be the King yet :p
Which brings up a good point. Killing the heir to the throne would be probably be an even better plan.
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:19 pm

Free Outer Eugenia wrote:
Jimanistan wrote:And it'd really piss off whomever succeeds the King
Only if they didn't want to be the King yet :p
Which brings up a good point. Killing the heir to the throne would be probably be an even better plan.


Hmm... I think I'd like that idea even more... So a Eugenian kills the heir to the Jimani throne, and blames it on a Telviran somehow?... Maybe poison, actually, that would make it harder to tell who actually did the killing, and lead any normal person to assume it was whoever you were just fighting with.
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Capital: Fenario, Capital District
Head of State: Prime Minister Marie Clemente
Head of Government: Speaker Francois Durand

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Postby Free Outer Eugenia » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:36 pm

So your royal court didn't have food tasters? :o
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:39 pm

Maybe the last one was beheaded for giving insufficient warning to the Queen that the soup was hot...
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Demonym: Jimani
Capital: Fenario, Capital District
Head of State: Prime Minister Marie Clemente
Head of Government: Speaker Francois Durand

"The very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror."
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Re: Late 18th century RP (OOC)

Postby Santheres » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:02 pm

Okay, I have something to add. My nation is supposed to be known for having people who develop really nasty poisons. To the extent that they're still used, albeit rarely, in MT. I could easily provide something that acts in a good way to get around tasters and such -- I figure this way, we don't have to handwave an excuse nearly so much, and just need to come up with interesting poison effects.
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Peace torn apart by steely claws!
Does it bring gifts of fun and games?
Nay, 'tis the king of acid rains!
Where can we flee from Santhbot's path?
No place is sheltered from his wrath!
Cyborg horror of the skies,
Flee! Save your children! Santhbot rides!
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