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Resolution 10000001: Resolution of Israel-Palestine Peacekeep

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Abstain
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Total votes : 9

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Janpia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7575
Founded: Jul 20, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby Janpia » Sun May 15, 2022 4:19 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
"We dont. GCN-ULIBOR relations were cut. In no circumstances will one jump over to the other without following the extra steps"


“We don’t care as to the how or why GCN relations were cut, but the new leadership had restored them. Now is the time for a vote, to prove once and for all that what you and your government believe is the “GCN Democratic Example” as false. Voting on it would also ensure that the current elected leadership has no ability to dictate what happens.”


"There never is a restoration. Once again, cite proof. Plus, Aursi bloc voting already serves proof to your democratic institutions"

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The King Isle
Minister
 
Posts: 3201
Founded: Jun 21, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The King Isle » Sun May 15, 2022 5:15 am

"If there is a vote to merge with the GCN, then the Kingmen Delegation will vote Against"
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Aursi
Minister
 
Posts: 3305
Founded: Nov 18, 2021
Corporate Police State

Postby Aursi » Sun May 15, 2022 5:49 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"GCN is not merging with ULIBOR. And bloc voting is disallowed, so even if we were going to, it would not be rigged."


“I motion to at least start a vote on a merger, to prove to the Janpians here who keep on screaming “Cite Source” at a fellow representative that their “bloc voting” claims are false. A vote ought to start on it at the very least, seeing as how things are currently destabilizing within this alliance.”

Toby Rastro: "I second."
Founder and Co-Founder of
ATO UCN SMOL
UADC GENA FA
GADN PESTO ULIBOR
IAD OAMC SUSS
Founded: 19.11.1975
Capital: Aurtumn
Chancellor: Fedor Sorokin
Population: 75 Million
GDP: 6@ Trillion Aursifens
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Wallowis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 838
Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Wallowis » Sun May 15, 2022 6:43 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
"We dont. GCN-ULIBOR relations were cut. In no circumstances will one jump over to the other without following the extra steps"


“We don’t care as to the how or why GCN relations were cut, but the new leadership had restored them. Now is the time for a vote, to prove once and for all that what you and your government believe is the “GCN Democratic Example” as false. Voting on it would also ensure that the current elected leadership has no ability to dictate what happens.”

"But as you've said, it isn't dictated. You've just said elected leadership. Due to me being elected, I have no obligation to hold a vote on the merger. My election promise was that I would ensure that ULIBOR would never merge, and I won. I would be breaking the promises that lead to my election should I hold a vote on merging, and THAT would be undemocratic."
All NS stats except for population related stats canon. Nation does represent my real life views always.*
*not Welfare.
My Politics
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.

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Southeast Marajarbia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18980
Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:46 am

Wallowis wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“We don’t care as to the how or why GCN relations were cut, but the new leadership had restored them. Now is the time for a vote, to prove once and for all that what you and your government believe is the “GCN Democratic Example” as false. Voting on it would also ensure that the current elected leadership has no ability to dictate what happens.”

"But as you've said, it isn't dictated. You've just said elected leadership. Due to me being elected, I have no obligation to hold a vote on the merger. My election promise was that I would ensure that ULIBOR would never merge, and I won. I would be breaking the promises that lead to my election should I hold a vote on merging, and THAT would be undemocratic."


“A vote is currently happening, so any attempt to stop democracy from doing its job on your part would effectively ensure that the entire international community knows that GCN is the only body in this modern world that respects and embraces democratic values.”
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Wallowis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 838
Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Wallowis » Sun May 15, 2022 6:48 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"But as you've said, it isn't dictated. You've just said elected leadership. Due to me being elected, I have no obligation to hold a vote on the merger. My election promise was that I would ensure that ULIBOR would never merge, and I won. I would be breaking the promises that lead to my election should I hold a vote on merging, and THAT would be undemocratic."


“A vote is currently happening, so any attempt to stop democracy from doing its job on your part would effectively ensure that the entire international community knows that GCN is the only body in this modern world that respects and embraces democratic values.”

"This statement is laughable. A vote is not being held currently, and you have ignored the fact that me allowing a vote on the merger would be undemocratic!"
All NS stats except for population related stats canon. Nation does represent my real life views always.*
*not Welfare.
My Politics
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.

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Southeast Marajarbia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18980
Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:49 am

Aursi wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“I motion to at least start a vote on a merger, to prove to the Janpians here who keep on screaming “Cite Source” at a fellow representative that their “bloc voting” claims are false. A vote ought to start on it at the very least, seeing as how things are currently destabilizing within this alliance.”

Toby Rastro: "I second."


“As an observer, I won’t vote. However, those who wish to cast their votes, regardless if for or against, should do so now.”
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Wallowis
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Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Wallowis » Sun May 15, 2022 6:50 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Aursi wrote:Toby Rastro: "I second."


“As an observer, I won’t vote. However, those who wish to cast their votes, regardless if for or against, should do so now.”

"Any vote held now will be purely unofficial, but go ahead because it may very well prove Marajarbia wrong."
All NS stats except for population related stats canon. Nation does represent my real life views always.*
*not Welfare.
My Politics
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.

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Janpia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7575
Founded: Jul 20, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby Janpia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:51 am

Wallowis wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“A vote is currently happening, so any attempt to stop democracy from doing its job on your part would effectively ensure that the entire international community knows that GCN is the only body in this modern world that respects and embraces democratic values.”

"This statement is laughable. A vote is not being held currently, and you have ignored the fact that me allowing a vote on the merger would be undemocratic!"


"Motion to kick those who doesn't follow the elected leaders. This is a coup"

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:53 am

Wallowis wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“As an observer, I won’t vote. However, those who wish to cast their votes, regardless if for or against, should do so now.”

"Any vote held now will be purely unofficial, but go ahead because it may very well prove Marajarbia wrong."


"Actually, it will be official. Why? Because the results will be respected."
Janpia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"This statement is laughable. A vote is not being held currently, and you have ignored the fact that me allowing a vote on the merger would be undemocratic!"


"Motion to kick those who doesn't follow the elected leaders. This is a coup"


"Infight all you want. That will only lead to a harder downfall."
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Zarnicovia nova
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10209
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun May 15, 2022 6:53 am

Aursi wrote:
Janpia wrote:"Be prepared for it. They will come as a bloc"

Toby Rastro: “I've heard rumors that you're bringing KTO. Its true because you think rumours are always the truth. In this case what Charoskanian Representative is 25% truth. Yes, GCN is merging with ULIBOR. But they are not going to "snatch us up like a corporation". The merger will be respectful and a step towards a better world. Our intelligence has some information about an application submitted by Zarnicovia Nova. If someone thinks it well, they can understand why Zarnicovia Nova wants to join as a member.”

(And mind you the negiotiations resulted in my membership not effecting this in anyway)
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Wallowis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 838
Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Wallowis » Sun May 15, 2022 6:55 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"Any vote held now will be purely unofficial, but go ahead because it may very well prove Marajarbia wrong."


"Actually, it will be official. Why? Because the results will be respected."
Janpia wrote:
"Motion to kick those who doesn't follow the elected leaders. This is a coup"


"Infight all you want. That will only lead to a harder downfall."

"The results will not be respected because this vote is unofficial."
All NS stats except for population related stats canon. Nation does represent my real life views always.*
*not Welfare.
My Politics
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.

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Southeast Marajarbia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18980
Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:56 am

Wallowis wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"Actually, it will be official. Why? Because the results will be respected."

"Infight all you want. That will only lead to a harder downfall."

"The results will not be respected because this vote is unofficial."


"The results will be respected."
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The Military State of the Galapagos
Minister
 
Posts: 2975
Founded: Jan 19, 2021
Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun May 15, 2022 6:57 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"The results will not be respected because this vote is unofficial."


"The results will be respected."

As Wallowis said the results will not be respected
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New Roma Republic
Minister
 
Posts: 2579
Founded: Mar 31, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby New Roma Republic » Sun May 15, 2022 6:57 am

"Due to the instability of the United Liberation Organization caused by the infighting between the Kalisight Treaty Organization and Global Confederation of Nation factions, the New Roman Imperium hereby relinquishes its Observer status with this organization. We hope that the two factions can get over their petty differences and stop vying for power over the other. If this happens, ULIBOR will be able to thrive, and my government will consider rejoining. If it doesn't, then there won't be an organization to come back to." And with that, the Roman delegation left the chamber.
IC call me NRI, Novus Romanum Imperium, or the New Roman Imperium; OOC call me Roma or New Roma
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:57 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"The results will be respected."

As Wallowis said the results will not be respected


"The results will be respected. That's all I have to say."
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Wallowis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 838
Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Wallowis » Sun May 15, 2022 7:01 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:As Wallowis said the results will not be respected


"The results will be respected. That's all I have to say."

"You have no choice in this matter. I was considering holding a vote on joining the GCN later, but with your blatant disregard for the democratically elected authority of ULIBOR, you are clearly showing to be an undemocratic putscher, This goes against all agreements we had previously made."
All NS stats except for population related stats canon. Nation does represent my real life views always.*
*not Welfare.
My Politics
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.

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Zarnicovia nova
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10209
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun May 15, 2022 7:03 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:As Wallowis said the results will not be respected


"The results will be respected. That's all I have to say."

"Yes like that time people voted 5 against 2 for to join the GCN and for some reason the GCN took them anyways. Tho to be fair the 1st in command had gone inactive(OOC Note: Because his cancer was getting worse) so the 2nd in command did approve it. If that makes it any better."
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 15, 2022 7:16 am

Wallowis wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"The results will be respected. That's all I have to say."

"You have no choice in this matter. I was considering holding a vote on joining the GCN later, but with your blatant disregard for the democratically elected authority of ULIBOR, you are clearly showing to be an undemocratic putscher, This goes against all agreements we had previously made."


"There is a choice, and it is either "Join or Die", because backing out of said agreements was something that the Government of Wallowis did, and with this merger vote underway and one member nation leaving due to "instability", it is obvious that the ULIBOR is in no position to become stable again. Infighting is rampant over a mere vote, with this very vote having its results being respected and being considered official. ULIBOR doesn’t merge, then it is obvious that it will die. You two (He points to the Janpian who keeps on screaming "Cite Source" and the angry representative from Wallowis) are the death of the ULIBOR."
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Zarnicovia nova
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Posts: 10209
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun May 15, 2022 7:18 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"You have no choice in this matter. I was considering holding a vote on joining the GCN later, but with your blatant disregard for the democratically elected authority of ULIBOR, you are clearly showing to be an undemocratic putscher, This goes against all agreements we had previously made."


"There is a choice, and it is either "Join or Die", because backing out of said agreements was something that the Government of Wallowis did, and with this merger vote underway and one member nation leaving due to "instability", it is obvious that the ULIBOR is in no position to become stable again. Infighting is rampant over a mere vote, with this very vote having its results being respected and being considered official. ULIBOR doesn’t merge, then it is obvious that it will die. You two (He points to the Janpian who keeps on screaming "Cite Source" and the angry representative from Wallowis) are the death of the ULIBOR."

"I think many of us would keep around for a nuetral ULIBOR. Once your gone all this office politics can be over with and the slaver crusaders back with."
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Wallowis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 838
Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Wallowis » Sun May 15, 2022 7:29 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:"You have no choice in this matter. I was considering holding a vote on joining the GCN later, but with your blatant disregard for the democratically elected authority of ULIBOR, you are clearly showing to be an undemocratic putscher, This goes against all agreements we had previously made."


"There is a choice, and it is either "Join or Die", because backing out of said agreements was something that the Government of Wallowis did, and with this merger vote underway and one member nation leaving due to "instability", it is obvious that the ULIBOR is in no position to become stable again. Infighting is rampant over a mere vote, with this very vote having its results being respected and being considered official. ULIBOR doesn’t merge, then it is obvious that it will die. You two (He points to the Janpian who keeps on screaming "Cite Source" and the angry representative from Wallowis) are the death of the ULIBOR."

"We did not make any agreements with you. You are clearly just shouting about the collapse since it will help your motives, which is to destabilise ULIBOR. Just a few weeks ago you were satisfied that we could save ULIBOR. Perhaps if we had agreed to join, you would be complimenting us even further?"
OOC: Technically true since the accidental agreement I made was OOC
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All NS stats except for population related stats canon. Nation does represent my real life views always.*
*not Welfare.
My Politics
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.

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Aursi
Minister
 
Posts: 3305
Founded: Nov 18, 2021
Corporate Police State

Postby Aursi » Sun May 15, 2022 8:45 am

Toby Rastro: "Mr. Janpian Rep. Are you scared that you're going to lose your coup? If not, then let the vote go on. We've said it many times, if its yes then yes, if its no, then no. If you try to stop the vote, that makes you undemocratic."
Founder and Co-Founder of
ATO UCN SMOL
UADC GENA FA
GADN PESTO ULIBOR
IAD OAMC SUSS
Founded: 19.11.1975
Capital: Aurtumn
Chancellor: Fedor Sorokin
Population: 75 Million
GDP: 6@ Trillion Aursifens
Kingdom of Aursi
Freedom, Democracy, Liberty
Current Year: 2035

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The New Puerto transitional republic
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 194
Founded: Dec 25, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby The New Puerto transitional republic » Sun May 15, 2022 8:48 am

Aursi wrote:Toby Rastro: "Mr. Janpian Rep. Are you scared that you're going to lose your coup? If not, then let the vote go on. We've said it many times, if its yes then yes, if its no, then no. If you try to stop the vote, that makes you undemocratic."

“This alliance is not for democracy. It’s meant to protect human rights. You don’t seem to understand that.”
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台湾是第一

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Aursi
Minister
 
Posts: 3305
Founded: Nov 18, 2021
Corporate Police State

Postby Aursi » Sun May 15, 2022 8:49 am

The New Puerto transitional republic wrote:
Aursi wrote:Toby Rastro: "Mr. Janpian Rep. Are you scared that you're going to lose your coup? If not, then let the vote go on. We've said it many times, if its yes then yes, if its no, then no. If you try to stop the vote, that makes you undemocratic."

“This alliance is not for democracy. It’s meant to protect human rights. You don’t seem to understand that.”

Toby Rastro: "A very important part of Human Rights is Freedom. It says it in the name. So Democracy and freedom are heavily linked. So yes, this alliance is also meant to protect Democracy."
Founder and Co-Founder of
ATO UCN SMOL
UADC GENA FA
GADN PESTO ULIBOR
IAD OAMC SUSS
Founded: 19.11.1975
Capital: Aurtumn
Chancellor: Fedor Sorokin
Population: 75 Million
GDP: 6@ Trillion Aursifens
Kingdom of Aursi
Freedom, Democracy, Liberty
Current Year: 2035

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The New Puerto transitional republic
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 194
Founded: Dec 25, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby The New Puerto transitional republic » Sun May 15, 2022 8:51 am

Aursi wrote:
The New Puerto transitional republic wrote:“This alliance is not for democracy. It’s meant to protect human rights. You don’t seem to understand that.”

Toby Rastro: "A very important part of Human Rights is Freedom. It says it in the name. So Democracy and freedom are heavily linked. So yes, this alliance is also meant to protect Democracy."

“Well then we have very different ideas of what human rights means.”
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台湾是第一

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