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East Stal Saillnerce
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:28 am

Wallowis wrote:
Aursi wrote:Are we really creating an Ally thing?

I hope not.

We are neutral. We won't merge with any alliances. We will only cooperate with other alliances temporarily in cases where we have the same goals, so please stop discussing this.

Just use observer then.


Given ULIBOR's goals I don't really know if "neutrality" is possible for them. Whether neutrality is apathy towards world affairs and the refusal to participate in conflicts or simply a refusal to align with any major power bloc (in this case, GCN or the anti-GCN alliance), I don't think ULIBOR meets the requirements. The ULIBOR risks becoming a major power bloc of its own in the wars against slavery and rogues, and while that would be something I welcome it would also get rid of the "neutral" alignment entirely.
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:29 am

Aursi wrote:
Wallowis wrote:You're already in ULIBOR? Why would you need to be an ally when you're a member? Besides, we won't cooperate with nations that don't respect human rights, that would be corrupt and hypocritical.

If I'm considered to be breaking human rights then I don't know which nation doesn't.

You arent! Bruh, you're already in smh
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:30 am

East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Wallowis wrote:I hope not.

We are neutral. We won't merge with any alliances. We will only cooperate with other alliances temporarily in cases where we have the same goals, so please stop discussing this.

Just use observer then.


Given ULIBOR's goals I don't really know if "neutrality" is possible for them. Whether neutrality is apathy towards world affairs and the refusal to participate in conflicts or simply a refusal to align with any major power bloc (in this case, GCN or the anti-GCN alliance), I don't think ULIBOR meets the requirements. The ULIBOR risks becoming a major power bloc of its own in the wars against slavery and rogues, and while that would be something I welcome it would also get rid of the "neutral" alignment entirely.

No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.
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Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:31 am

Wallowis wrote:
East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Given ULIBOR's goals I don't really know if "neutrality" is possible for them. Whether neutrality is apathy towards world affairs and the refusal to participate in conflicts or simply a refusal to align with any major power bloc (in this case, GCN or the anti-GCN alliance), I don't think ULIBOR meets the requirements. The ULIBOR risks becoming a major power bloc of its own in the wars against slavery and rogues, and while that would be something I welcome it would also get rid of the "neutral" alignment entirely.

No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.


You just described GCN in the last part.
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Postby Aursi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:32 am

Wallowis wrote:
East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Given ULIBOR's goals I don't really know if "neutrality" is possible for them. Whether neutrality is apathy towards world affairs and the refusal to participate in conflicts or simply a refusal to align with any major power bloc (in this case, GCN or the anti-GCN alliance), I don't think ULIBOR meets the requirements. The ULIBOR risks becoming a major power bloc of its own in the wars against slavery and rogues, and while that would be something I welcome it would also get rid of the "neutral" alignment entirely.

No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.

Just say that. you can be neutral. I will not interfere with that. But who were you talking about in the Human Rights thing?
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East Stal Saillnerce
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:33 am

Wallowis wrote:
East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Given ULIBOR's goals I don't really know if "neutrality" is possible for them. Whether neutrality is apathy towards world affairs and the refusal to participate in conflicts or simply a refusal to align with any major power bloc (in this case, GCN or the anti-GCN alliance), I don't think ULIBOR meets the requirements. The ULIBOR risks becoming a major power bloc of its own in the wars against slavery and rogues, and while that would be something I welcome it would also get rid of the "neutral" alignment entirely.

No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.


What are you referring to? In the first few days of this alliance alone ULIBOR has already made many enemies. As I have pointed out before, ULIBOR doesn't have a concrete definition of "human rights" and if ULIBOR is to follow the Declaration strictly they would be in conflict with most of the world.
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:35 am

Aursi wrote:
Wallowis wrote:No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.

Just say that. you can be neutral. I will not interfere with that. But who were you talking about in the Human Rights thing?
East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Wallowis wrote:No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.


What are you referring to? In the first few days of this alliance alone ULIBOR has already made many enemies. As I have pointed out before, ULIBOR doesn't have a concrete definition of "human rights" and if ULIBOR is to follow the Declaration strictly they would be in conflict with most of the world.

1. Aursi, you're in ULIBOR.
2. We are neutral, and the enemies we make are solely human rights abuser, and yes I'm pretty sure we follow the declaration.
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:39 am

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:40 am

Wallowis wrote:
Aursi wrote:Are we really creating an Ally thing?

I hope not.

We are neutral. We won't merge with any alliances. We will only cooperate with other alliances temporarily in cases where we have the same goals, so please stop discussing this.

Just use observer then.


You are the only one who has even brought up a merger. GCN and GADN just want more allies. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:42 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:I hope not.

We are neutral. We won't merge with any alliances. We will only cooperate with other alliances temporarily in cases where we have the same goals, so please stop discussing this.

Just use observer then.


You are the only one who has even brought up a merger. GCN and GADN just want more allies. Nothing more, nothing less.

Okay, we won't merge. But still, becoming allies with other alliances will hurt our neutrality. We are simply here to do our job.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:44 am

Wallowis wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You are the only one who has even brought up a merger. GCN and GADN just want more allies. Nothing more, nothing less.

Okay, we won't merge. But still, becoming allies with other alliances will hurt our neutrality. We are simply here to do our job.


I would say that the neutrality has already been somewhat hurt at this point, based on the fact that ULIBOR has members belonging to both powerful modern factions already.
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:47 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Wallowis wrote:Okay, we won't merge. But still, becoming allies with other alliances will hurt our neutrality. We are simply here to do our job.


I would say that the neutrality has already been somewhat hurt at this point, based on the fact that ULIBOR has members belonging to both powerful modern factions already.

That doesn't hurt our neutrality but instead strengthens it. We welcome members from any alliances as long as they don't do stuff we're against.
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:47 am

Wallowis wrote:1. Aursi, you're in ULIBOR.
2. We are neutral, and the enemies we make are solely human rights abuser, and yes I'm pretty sure we follow the declaration.


You still haven't specified what your definition of "neutrality" is, and how strict your adherence to (and enforcement of) the Declaration is. Remember, "human rights abuses" are vague. I believe a better agenda to follow is one that fiercely opposes war crimes and slavery, rather than some vague notion of "human rights" where exactly what and how something should be punished is unclear.
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:54 am

East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Wallowis wrote:1. Aursi, you're in ULIBOR.
2. We are neutral, and the enemies we make are solely human rights abuser, and yes I'm pretty sure we follow the declaration.


You still haven't specified what your definition of "neutrality" is, and how strict your adherence to (and enforcement of) the Declaration is. Remember, "human rights abuses" are vague. I believe a better agenda to follow is one that fiercely opposes war crimes and slavery, rather than some vague notion of "human rights" where exactly what and how something should be punished is unclear.

Hm, okay.
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Postby The Aquaria » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:58 am

Let me say something. This 'alliance' will only represent the liberation side.

I am allowing any nations with any political alliance enter the ULIBOR, except the fascists and those with prove that hurt human right of their citizen. No matter you are in GCN, KTO, or many other alliances, or non-aligned, or even declared permanent-neutral, I will be allowing. This is agreed by the co-founding nations, like the Aquaria, Muqaddasia, Wallowis, The King Isles, Aursi, etc.

The ULIBOR is nothing near a political alliance. We are just an organisation focusing on human rights of NationStates. If there are any slavery reports, we will try to intervene into it, either stop their work with diplomatic ways, or liberating the slaves by our own hand. If a war happen, we will keep on sight if any war crimes happened. We will be sending peacekeeping force to the affected area, helping the citizens, and at the same time giving war criminals a fair trial.

The ULIBOR, like what did it mean in the description of the first page, is not a stage for your alliance to show your political ideologies or sides. We do not care if both GCN and KTO's founders are one of the observer, but asking them to cooperate with the ULIBOR. I am not giving up my KTO membership, and I do not ask Muqaddasia and Aursi to give up the GCN membership as well. We are just trying to work for the sake of humanity.

If you can not put down your political side when participating the ULIBOR's work, get the heck out of here.
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Postby East Stal Saillnerce » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:01 am

The Aquaria wrote:Let me say something. This alliance will only represent the liberation side.

I am allowing any nations with any political alliance enter the ULIBOR, except the fascists and those with prove that hurt human right of their citizen. No matter you are in GCN, KTO, or many other alliances, or non-aligned, or even declared permanent-neutral, I will be allowing. This is agreed by the co-founders, like the Aquaria, Muqaddasia, Wallowis, The King Isles, Aursi, etc.

The ULIBOR is nothing near a political alliance. We are just an organisation focusing on human rights of NationStates. If there are any slavery reports, we will try to intervene into it, either stop their work with diplomatic ways, or liberating the slaves by our own hand. If a war happen, we will keep on sight if any war crimes happened. We will be sending peacekeeping force to the affected area, helping the citizens, and at the same time giving war criminals a fair trial.

The ULIBOR, like what did it mean in the description of the first page, is not a stage for your alliance to show your political ideologies or sides. We do not care if both GCN and KTO's founders are one of the observer, but asking them to cooperate with the ULIBOR. I am not giving up my KTO membership, and I do not ask Muqaddasia and Aursi to give up the GCN membership as well. We are just trying to work for the sake of humanity.

If you can not put down your political side when participating the ULIBOR's work, get the heck out of here.


I may have to pick up the pace on the Eghv Accords. I was planning an alliance similar to this myself, and I'll probably still finish it given how far I've gotten with the charter.
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:03 am

The Aquaria wrote:Let me say something. This alliance will only represent the liberation side.

I am allowing any nations with any political alliance enter the ULIBOR, except the fascists and those with prove that hurt human right of their citizen. No matter you are in GCN, KTO, or many other alliances, or non-aligned, or even declared permanent-neutral, I will be allowing. This is agreed by the co-founders, like the Aquaria, Muqaddasia, Wallowis, The King Isles, Aursi, etc.

The ULIBOR is nothing near a political alliance. We are just an organisation focusing on human rights of NationStates. If there are any slavery reports, we will try to intervene into it, either stop their work with diplomatic ways, or liberating the slaves by our own hand. If a war happen, we will keep on sight if any war crimes happened. We will be sending peacekeeping force to the affected area, helping the citizens, and at the same time giving war criminals a fair trial.

The ULIBOR, like what did it mean in the description of the first page, is not a stage for your alliance to show your political ideologies or sides. We do not care if both GCN and KTO's founders are one of the observer, but asking them to cooperate with the ULIBOR. I am not giving up my KTO membership, and I do not ask Muqaddasia and Aursi to give up the GCN membership as well. We are just trying to work for the sake of humanity.

If you can not put down your political side when participating the ULIBOR's work, get the heck out of here.

Yes that's what I was trying to say, thank you.
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Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
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Postby Aursi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:03 am

Wallowis wrote:
Aursi wrote:Just say that. you can be neutral. I will not interfere with that. But who were you talking about in the Human Rights thing?
East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
What are you referring to? In the first few days of this alliance alone ULIBOR has already made many enemies. As I have pointed out before, ULIBOR doesn't have a concrete definition of "human rights" and if ULIBOR is to follow the Declaration strictly they would be in conflict with most of the world.

1. Aursi, you're in ULIBOR.
2. We are neutral, and the enemies we make are solely human rights abuser, and yes I'm pretty sure we follow the declaration.

I don't wanna be an ally. GADN is an alliance wants to be an ally. Anyway, as you're neutral I won't bring up this topic again.
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Founded: 19.11.1975
Capital: Aurtumn
Chancellor: Fedor Sorokin
Population: 75 Million
GDP: 6@ Trillion Aursifens
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Postby Aursi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:04 am

Wallowis wrote:
The Aquaria wrote:Let me say something. This alliance will only represent the liberation side.

I am allowing any nations with any political alliance enter the ULIBOR, except the fascists and those with prove that hurt human right of their citizen. No matter you are in GCN, KTO, or many other alliances, or non-aligned, or even declared permanent-neutral, I will be allowing. This is agreed by the co-founders, like the Aquaria, Muqaddasia, Wallowis, The King Isles, Aursi, etc.

The ULIBOR is nothing near a political alliance. We are just an organisation focusing on human rights of NationStates. If there are any slavery reports, we will try to intervene into it, either stop their work with diplomatic ways, or liberating the slaves by our own hand. If a war happen, we will keep on sight if any war crimes happened. We will be sending peacekeeping force to the affected area, helping the citizens, and at the same time giving war criminals a fair trial.

The ULIBOR, like what did it mean in the description of the first page, is not a stage for your alliance to show your political ideologies or sides. We do not care if both GCN and KTO's founders are one of the observer, but asking them to cooperate with the ULIBOR. I am not giving up my KTO membership, and I do not ask Muqaddasia and Aursi to give up the GCN membership as well. We are just trying to work for the sake of humanity.

If you can not put down your political side when participating the ULIBOR's work, get the heck out of here.

Yes that's what I was trying to say, thank you.

Yeah, please be a little bit more clear next time.
Founder and Co-Founder of
ATO UCN SMOL
UADC GENA FA
GADN PESTO ULIBOR
IAD OAMC SUSS
Founded: 19.11.1975
Capital: Aurtumn
Chancellor: Fedor Sorokin
Population: 75 Million
GDP: 6@ Trillion Aursifens
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:06 am

The Aquaria wrote:Let me say something. This alliance will only represent the liberation side.

I am allowing any nations with any political alliance enter the ULIBOR, except the fascists and those with prove that hurt human right of their citizen. No matter you are in GCN, KTO, or many other alliances, or non-aligned, or even declared permanent-neutral, I will be allowing. This is agreed by the co-founding nations, like the Aquaria, Muqaddasia, Wallowis, The King Isles, Aursi, etc.

The ULIBOR is nothing near a political alliance. We are just an organisation focusing on human rights of NationStates. If there are any slavery reports, we will try to intervene into it, either stop their work with diplomatic ways, or liberating the slaves by our own hand. If a war happen, we will keep on sight if any war crimes happened. We will be sending peacekeeping force to the affected area, helping the citizens, and at the same time giving war criminals a fair trial.

The ULIBOR, like what did it mean in the description of the first page, is not a stage for your alliance to show your political ideologies or sides. We do not care if both GCN and KTO's founders are one of the observer, but asking them to cooperate with the ULIBOR. I am not giving up my KTO membership, and I do not ask Muqaddasia and Aursi to give up the GCN membership as well. We are just trying to work for the sake of humanity.

If you can not put down your political side when participating the ULIBOR's work, get the heck out of here.


Well, if GCN and ULIBOR can work together, that’s alright with me.
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Postby Aursi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:09 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Aquaria wrote:Let me say something. This alliance will only represent the liberation side.

I am allowing any nations with any political alliance enter the ULIBOR, except the fascists and those with prove that hurt human right of their citizen. No matter you are in GCN, KTO, or many other alliances, or non-aligned, or even declared permanent-neutral, I will be allowing. This is agreed by the co-founding nations, like the Aquaria, Muqaddasia, Wallowis, The King Isles, Aursi, etc.

The ULIBOR is nothing near a political alliance. We are just an organisation focusing on human rights of NationStates. If there are any slavery reports, we will try to intervene into it, either stop their work with diplomatic ways, or liberating the slaves by our own hand. If a war happen, we will keep on sight if any war crimes happened. We will be sending peacekeeping force to the affected area, helping the citizens, and at the same time giving war criminals a fair trial.

The ULIBOR, like what did it mean in the description of the first page, is not a stage for your alliance to show your political ideologies or sides. We do not care if both GCN and KTO's founders are one of the observer, but asking them to cooperate with the ULIBOR. I am not giving up my KTO membership, and I do not ask Muqaddasia and Aursi to give up the GCN membership as well. We are just trying to work for the sake of humanity.

If you can not put down your political side when participating the ULIBOR's work, get the heck out of here.


Well, if GCN and ULIBOR can work together, that’s alright with me.


Well, if a dead alliance called GADN and ULIBOR can work together, that’s alright with me.
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Briefly describe your military: A large force that is facing underfunding due to the money being instead used for social programs under the current government.

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Postby Union of States of America » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:57 pm

East Stal Saillnerce wrote:
Wallowis wrote:No it isn't. We will always remain away from any alliances, won't participate in any war as long as human rights violations aren't committed, etc,.

We are a sort of UN, but more militaristic and enforcing.


What are you referring to? In the first few days of this alliance alone ULIBOR has already made many enemies. As I have pointed out before, ULIBOR doesn't have a concrete definition of "human rights" and if ULIBOR is to follow the Declaration strictly they would be in conflict with most of the world.



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Postby Arpasia » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:01 pm

I believe that you all should have to broaden your relations with other alliances, like make an informal Alliance will all KTO members.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:07 pm

Arpasia wrote:I believe that you all should have to broaden your relations with other alliances, like make an informal Alliance will all KTO members.


The intention here is neutrality and preserving rights regardless of who is infringing upon them. Making alliances would impede on that. Also, why only the KTO?
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