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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:05 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Why does everyone colonize the moon all of a sudden? Screw that, I am staying to earth nations. There’s more progress and profit made.

In case you need something on the moon ask me, I already had a base there, so I gift quite organized
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:06 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Why does everyone colonize the moon all of a sudden? Screw that, I am staying to earth nations. There’s more progress and profit made.

Space is cool is why!

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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:11 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Why does everyone colonize the moon all of a sudden? Screw that, I am staying to earth nations. There’s more progress and profit made.

Space is cool is why!

Of course we will not lose our territories on earth, they will only be colonies, right?
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:18 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Why does everyone colonize the moon all of a sudden? Screw that, I am staying to earth nations. There’s more progress and profit made.

Space is cool is why!


Ah yes, an endless void nearly infinite in terms of size, requiring billions of dollars to produce the necessary vehicles to travel to and through, and yet only onto a rock two superpowers fought over 70 or so years ago.
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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:20 pm

I am unsprised that GCN nations haven't used Galapagos being a puppet master of ZN Janpia, GO etc. more. I saw that back awhile ago but then it died.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:21 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:I am unsprised that GCN nations haven't used Galapagos being a puppet master of ZN Janpia, GO etc. more. I saw that back awhile ago but then it died.


You are what now?
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The Sealandian State
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:22 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:Space is cool is why!


Ah yes, an endless void nearly infinite in terms of size, requiring billions of dollars to produce the necessary vehicles to travel to and through, and yet only onto a rock two superpowers fought over 70 or so years ago.

But Earth RP gets tiring after having constant 'Galapagos wars' bombarded against the GCN for 2 OOC months straight. Screw the costs of this endeavor, we need to try something new, and a 'Scramble of the Moon' is a good idea for that.

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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:22 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:I am unsprised that GCN nations haven't used Galapagos being a puppet master of ZN Janpia, GO etc. more. I saw that back awhile ago but then it died.


You are what now?

suprised. misspelled horribly.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:23 pm

The Sealandian State wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ah yes, an endless void nearly infinite in terms of size, requiring billions of dollars to produce the necessary vehicles to travel to and through, and yet only onto a rock two superpowers fought over 70 or so years ago.

But Earth RP gets tiring after having constant 'Galapagos wars' bombarded against the GCN for 2 OOC months straight. Screw the costs of this endeavor, we need to try something new, and a 'Scramble of the Moon' is a good idea for that.


True, but with the (whatever you want to call it) between GCN and KTO, it’s getting interesting. I for one have no interest in the moon.
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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:24 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:I am unsprised that GCN nations haven't used Galapagos being a puppet master of ZN Janpia, GO etc. more. I saw that back awhile ago but then it died.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. We could use that as propaganda.......
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:25 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You are what now?

suprised. misspelled horribly.


Well, I don’t necessarily believe that that is entirely true. Janpia’s the leader of the KTO, while Galapagos just co-founded. Even then, KTO’s not done, well, a lot. It’s done some things, but Janpia remains the leader.
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The Sealandian State
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:27 pm

South Olpen wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:I am unsprised that GCN nations haven't used Galapagos being a puppet master of ZN Janpia, GO etc. more. I saw that back awhile ago but then it died.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. We could use that as propaganda.......

Who needs propaganda when you can put the Galapagos in a position of choosing between a diplomatic failure or starting another Galapagos war that they should lose (in theory)?

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The Sealandian State
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:08 pm

Galapagos, what do you mean by 'the repetitions'?

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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:08 pm

The Sealandian State wrote:Galapagos, what do you mean by 'the repetitions'?

Reparations, I think.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:10 pm

The Sealandian State wrote:Galapagos, what do you mean by 'the repetitions'?

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:2- Galapagos will pay 10 billion NSD in reparations to Galapagos

I ain’t paying you
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The Sealandian State
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:14 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Sealandian State wrote:Galapagos, what do you mean by 'the repetitions'?

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:2- Galapagos will pay 10 billion NSD in reparations to Galapagos

I ain’t paying you

Ok, in that case I already have Sealandian businesses doing a lot of the work with government and allied support anyway. Also, this is a violation of the treaty, so you could get embargoed by both the KTO and the GCN for this.
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Deblar
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Postby Deblar » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:16 pm

Hot take: colonialism is cringe, even when it doesn't take place on Earth

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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:17 pm

Deblar wrote:Hot take: colonialism is cringe, even when it doesn't take place on Earth

Oh no, all the lunar people being colonised!

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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:19 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Deblar wrote:Hot take: colonialism is cringe, even when it doesn't take place on Earth

Oh no, all the lunar people being colonised!

Are there aliens on the moon? can they be enslaved? technically they are not covered by the declaration of human rights
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GreatOceania
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Postby GreatOceania » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:23 pm

Deblar wrote:Hot take: colonialism is cringe, even when it doesn't take place on Earth


if no one owns it then it's up for grab and I'm pretty sure there isn't any of them Lunar dudes of there
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:27 pm

The Sealandian State wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
I ain’t paying you

Ok, in that case I already have Sealandian businesses doing a lot of the work with government and allied support anyway. Also, this is a violation of the treaty, so you could get embargoed by both the KTO and the GCN for this.

Your being unreasonable I have every right to stop paying you. Also might begin interfering in your politics again
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:34 pm

Deblar wrote:Hot take: colonialism is cringe, even when it doesn't take place on Earth

Better take: Colonization is based
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The Sealandian State
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:53 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Sealandian State wrote:Ok, in that case I already have Sealandian businesses doing a lot of the work with government and allied support anyway. Also, this is a violation of the treaty, so you could get embargoed by both the KTO and the GCN for this.

Your being unreasonable I have every right to stop paying you. Also might begin interfering in your politics again


Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
The Sealandian State wrote:
OOC: I'm fine with military ships being allowed to dock, though I'll be keeping a close eye on how many ships dock at Sealand each day, if they commit any crimes in Sealand and if the Galapagos tries to use this against Sealand. The government will raise concerns if any of these become an issue for Sealand or the international stage. The only issue I have with the treaty is that there needs to be a clause where the Galapagos agrees not to interfere in Sealandian politics, seeing as that's what caused this whole war in the first place.

OOC: Will edit


Islamic Holy Sites wrote:1- Galapagos will withdraw from Sealand immediately
2- Galapagos will pay 10 billion NSD in reparations to Galapagos
3- Low ranking military officials from both sides will be tried for war crimes
4- Sealand will decrease its contribution to the military of the GCN to the minimum possible, and will not contribute troops in a war of aggression against Galapagos
5- Sealand will cease to participate in GCN activities for one month
6- Galapagosian military ships will be allowed to dock in Sealand
7- Both sides will sign a NAP
8- If Galapagos or Sealand break the treaty, they will be embargoed by the KTO and the GCN
9- If Galapagosian ships commit crimes or do actions the Sealandian government does not approve of, permission for docking can be withdrawn.
10- Galapagos will not interfere in Sealandian politics.


As you can see by the bolded parts, this kind of scenario was taken into account when making the treaty, and you agreed to that. The Galapagos tried to use Article 6 against Sealand, and the nation went through the measures outlined in Article 9, which, I repeat, you agreed to, and then you respond by no longer paying reparations, which is breaking the treaty. I even gave you the option for negotiation, as shown here:

The Sealandian State wrote:Thompsett has announced that the country will stop allowing Galapagos military ships from being allowed to dock in their ports unless they were to receive word from the Galapagos that this 'illegal show of strength' will never happen again. 'The Galapagos knew what they were signing up to,' he said, 'and we will not let them go back on their word now.' Sealand's mobilization efforts and defense preparations immediately after the election have resulted in more formidable defenses than and a lot more Sealandian garrisons defending ports than at the time of the invasion. If an invasion of Sealand were to occur, Sealand would be more ready for it, and it would have the upper hand. Sealand wants to ensure that South Olpen would be ready for an escalation of their war with ZN.


Despite this, you still felt the need to break the treaty, which means that the KTO and the GCN will have to follow Article 8, and it proved that the Conservatives in Sealand were right about the Galapagos.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:00 pm

The Sealandian State wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Your being unreasonable I have every right to stop paying you. Also might begin interfering in your politics again


Islamic Holy Sites wrote:OOC: Will edit


Islamic Holy Sites wrote:1- Galapagos will withdraw from Sealand immediately
2- Galapagos will pay 10 billion NSD in reparations to Galapagos
3- Low ranking military officials from both sides will be tried for war crimes
4- Sealand will decrease its contribution to the military of the GCN to the minimum possible, and will not contribute troops in a war of aggression against Galapagos
5- Sealand will cease to participate in GCN activities for one month
6- Galapagosian military ships will be allowed to dock in Sealand
7- Both sides will sign a NAP
8- If Galapagos or Sealand break the treaty, they will be embargoed by the KTO and the GCN
9- If Galapagosian ships commit crimes or do actions the Sealandian government does not approve of, permission for docking can be withdrawn.
10- Galapagos will not interfere in Sealandian politics.


As you can see by the bolded parts, this kind of scenario was taken into account when making the treaty, and you agreed to that. The Galapagos tried to use Article 6 against Sealand, and the nation went through the measures outlined in Article 9, which, I repeat, you agreed to, and then you respond by no longer paying reparations, which is breaking the treaty. I even gave you the option for negotiation, as shown here:

The Sealandian State wrote:Thompsett has announced that the country will stop allowing Galapagos military ships from being allowed to dock in their ports unless they were to receive word from the Galapagos that this 'illegal show of strength' will never happen again. 'The Galapagos knew what they were signing up to,' he said, 'and we will not let them go back on their word now.' Sealand's mobilization efforts and defense preparations immediately after the election have resulted in more formidable defenses than and a lot more Sealandian garrisons defending ports than at the time of the invasion. If an invasion of Sealand were to occur, Sealand would be more ready for it, and it would have the upper hand. Sealand wants to ensure that South Olpen would be ready for an escalation of their war with ZN.


Despite this, you still felt the need to break the treaty, which means that the KTO and the GCN will have to follow Article 8, and it proved that the Conservatives in Sealand were right about the Galapagos.

Well I don’t recognize the conservative government and so I don’t recognize their demands
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The Sealandian State
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Postby The Sealandian State » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:06 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Sealandian State wrote:




As you can see by the bolded parts, this kind of scenario was taken into account when making the treaty, and you agreed to that. The Galapagos tried to use Article 6 against Sealand, and the nation went through the measures outlined in Article 9, which, I repeat, you agreed to, and then you respond by no longer paying reparations, which is breaking the treaty. I even gave you the option for negotiation, as shown here:



Despite this, you still felt the need to break the treaty, which means that the KTO and the GCN will have to follow Article 8, and it proved that the Conservatives in Sealand were right about the Galapagos.

Well I don’t recognize the conservative government and so I don’t recognize their demands

Where did you say that you didn't recognize Sealand's government?

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