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Zarnicovia nova
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:19 pm

Uh, SM, you’ve just done the thing you said NATO planned to do lmao.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:26 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:Uh, SM, you’ve just done the thing you said NATO planned to do lmao.


Not entirely correct, since it was perceived by some of GCN’s founding members that NATO wanted to reign supreme and force everyone to follow GSA’s rules (At least, before we found out he was ill). GCN doesn’t exactly want to reign supreme. GCN just wants civilians to live life in peace.
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:28 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:Uh, SM, you’ve just done the thing you said NATO planned to do lmao.


Not entirely correct, since it was perceived by some of GCN’s founding members that NATO wanted to reign supreme and force everyone to follow GSA’s rules (At least, before we found out he was ill). GCN doesn’t exactly want to reign supreme. GCN just wants civilians to live life in peace.

No, you said NATO wanted to make a world order, which you’ve just declared. I think a World War should occur now.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:31 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Not entirely correct, since it was perceived by some of GCN’s founding members that NATO wanted to reign supreme and force everyone to follow GSA’s rules (At least, before we found out he was ill). GCN doesn’t exactly want to reign supreme. GCN just wants civilians to live life in peace.

No, you said NATO wanted to make a world order, which you’ve just declared. I think a World War should occur.


Not only is there already a world war, but you are not getting the point. GCN wants peace, not war. Civilians deserve to not be affected by devastating conflicts like that.

If you want to, just ignore it. It’s not that much of a deal as you say it might be since it doesn’t involve what you claim it involves.
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:34 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:No, you said NATO wanted to make a world order, which you’ve just declared. I think a World War should occur.


Not only is there already a world war, but you are not getting the point. GCN wants peace, not war. Civilians deserve to not be affected by devastating conflicts like that.

If you want to, just ignore it. It’s not that much of a deal as you say it might be since it doesn’t involve what you claim it involves.

The world war I’m not allowed to participate in since IHS decanonised me because “it’s too complicated” and what I’m going on about is how hypocritical is to spread false rumours that NATO wants to establish a world order then you announce one.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:36 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Not only is there already a world war, but you are not getting the point. GCN wants peace, not war. Civilians deserve to not be affected by devastating conflicts like that.

If you want to, just ignore it. It’s not that much of a deal as you say it might be since it doesn’t involve what you claim it involves.

The world war I’m not allowed to participate in since IHS decanonised me because “it’s too complicated” and what I’m going on about is how hypocritical is to spread false rumours that NATO wants to establish a world order then you announce one.


You know what? Since you are so adamant on continuing, let’s just take this to telegrams. I honestly do not see any need to continue this here since it was things like this very argument that ended G&IA.
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:37 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:The world war I’m not allowed to participate in since IHS decanonised me because “it’s too complicated” and what I’m going on about is how hypocritical is to spread false rumours that NATO wants to establish a world order then you announce one.


You know what? Since you are so adamant on continuing, let’s just take this to telegrams. I honestly do not see any need to continue this here since it was things like this very argument that ended G&IA.

No need for telegrams, I’m stating you’ve been extended hypocritical with the world order stuff. That’s it, no need for anything else.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:39 pm

I would also like to note, that if nobody realized, the declaration of the grand society/NWO just so happened to be from a totally not biased newspaper as an Op-Ed from someone who is not in the Marajarbian Government, so if war is declared over a mere opinion of a mere civilian, that might actually be stupid reasoning.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:40 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You know what? Since you are so adamant on continuing, let’s just take this to telegrams. I honestly do not see any need to continue this here since it was things like this very argument that ended G&IA.

No need for telegrams, I’m stating you’ve been extended hypocritical with the world order stuff. That’s it, no need for anything else.


That doesn’t sound like a statement that’s at a full stop yet, so there might be a need for telegrams, unless there actually isn’t anything to add to that.
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Postby Deblar » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:41 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:I would also like to note, that if nobody realized, the declaration of the grand society/NWO just so happened to be from a totally not biased newspaper as an Op-Ed from someone who is not in the Marajarbian Government, so if war is declared over a mere opinion of a mere civilian, that might actually be stupid reasoning.

Well, wars have nearly been started over stupider reasons. *looks at the Pig War*

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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:41 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:No need for telegrams, I’m stating you’ve been extended hypocritical with the world order stuff. That’s it, no need for anything else.


That doesn’t sound like a statement that’s at a full stop yet, so there might be a need for telegrams, unless there actually isn’t anything to add to that.

You spread false rumours that NATO wanted a world order, then you declare one, hypocritical. End of the statement.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:43 pm

Deblar wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:I would also like to note, that if nobody realized, the declaration of the grand society/NWO just so happened to be from a totally not biased newspaper as an Op-Ed from someone who is not in the Marajarbian Government, so if war is declared over a mere opinion of a mere civilian, that might actually be stupid reasoning.

Well, wars have nearly been started over stupider reasons. *looks at the Pig War*


Yeah, that wasn’t even a war, and it wasn’t exactly that stupid, but then again it kind of was. Results wise, the U.S secured the Pacific Northwest, but in actuality it was just a dispute over an Irishman and his pig.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:44 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
That doesn’t sound like a statement that’s at a full stop yet, so there might be a need for telegrams, unless there actually isn’t anything to add to that.

You spread false rumours that NATO wanted a world order, then you declare one, hypocritical. End of the statement.


Ok, it’s a big if should I respond to that, and if that happens, expect a telegram or two.
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Postby South Americanastan » Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:48 pm

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Postby Vikanias » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:35 pm

So NATO wanted to establish a world order based on war SM?

That’s fucking bullshit and you know it
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Postby Meretica » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:14 pm

Y'all, can we just not bicker for once? I mean, seriously. Let's stop these endless wars, hammer out a couple of NAPs, and then move on to some domestic agendas. And no, by domestic agendas, I don't mean I have some plot to start some kinda of NWO empire thing. I strongly disagree with the idea that GCN is an Empire; I see it as our form of the European Union. I also don't think that anyone here really wants us to focus on this stuff forever. We have more things that we can move on to, and we should.

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:15 pm

Meretica wrote:Y'all, can we just not bicker for once? I mean, seriously. Let's stop these endless wars, hammer out a couple of NAPs, and then move on to some domestic agendas. And no, by domestic agendas, I don't mean I have some plot to start some kinda of NWO empire thing. I strongly disagree with the idea that GCN is an Empire; I see it as our form of the European Union. I also don't think that anyone here really wants us to focus on this stuff forever. We have more things that we can move on to, and we should.

well sorry but EU is already too far. Also war is fucking fun as shit.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:18 pm

Meretica wrote:Y'all, can we just not bicker for once? I mean, seriously. Let's stop these endless wars, hammer out a couple of NAPs, and then move on to some domestic agendas. And no, by domestic agendas, I don't mean I have some plot to start some kinda of NWO empire thing. I strongly disagree with the idea that GCN is an Empire; I see it as our form of the European Union. I also don't think that anyone here really wants us to focus on this stuff forever. We have more things that we can move on to, and we should.


GCN effectively has 11 alliances that make it up right now. Out of all of those, there are two extremely large ones that make up a large chunk of the pie, so idk why you don’t see GCN as an empire. I do agree with your other points, though.
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Postby Meretica » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:19 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Meretica wrote:Y'all, can we just not bicker for once? I mean, seriously. Let's stop these endless wars, hammer out a couple of NAPs, and then move on to some domestic agendas. And no, by domestic agendas, I don't mean I have some plot to start some kinda of NWO empire thing. I strongly disagree with the idea that GCN is an Empire; I see it as our form of the European Union. I also don't think that anyone here really wants us to focus on this stuff forever. We have more things that we can move on to, and we should.

well sorry but EU is already too far. Also war is fucking fun as shit.

Constant war does no one any favors-- not to mention that you don't have to join the GCN. It's optional. You're not forced to be in it.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:20 pm

Meretica wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:well sorry but EU is already too far. Also war is fucking fun as shit.

Constant war does no one any favors-- not to mention that you don't have to join the GCN. It's optional. You're not forced to be in it.



That is very true. I have no idea why people have a problem with that, or anything with GCN.
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:25 pm

Meretica wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:well sorry but EU is already too far. Also war is fucking fun as shit.

Constant war does no one any favors-- not to mention that you don't have to join the GCN. It's optional. You're not forced to be in it.

Honestly, I'm surprised that Galapagos even has a military at all at this point. Or native residents.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:44 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Constant war does no one any favors-- not to mention that you don't have to join the GCN. It's optional. You're not forced to be in it.



That is very true. I have no idea why people have a problem with that, or anything with GCN.

Should I write an entire college essay explaining the atrocities committed by troops of countries now leading the GCN. Or should I write another essay on why the Galapagos doesn’t like communism which is the ideology your alliance is founded on.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:46 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Meretica wrote:Constant war does no one any favors-- not to mention that you don't have to join the GCN. It's optional. You're not forced to be in it.

Honestly, I'm surprised that Galapagos even has a military at all at this point. Or native residents.

Could say the same thing about you with your whole nuclear apocalypse world
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:53 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Honestly, I'm surprised that Galapagos even has a military at all at this point. Or native residents.

Could say the same thing about you with your whole nuclear apocalypse world

Gonswanza wasn't hit by nukes, for one.

There's also the tunnels being used to shelter them, as most operations have moved below ground.

A shame that (most) of the world's population is dead, though. Something like maybe a billion or so people left.
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