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Reich of the New World Order
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Postby Reich of the New World Order » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:43 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Yeah and an invasion includes that. Until that exchange occures then no real war has occured and will be in GA as diplomacy.


Who's to say we couldn't have the war take place on, you know, MY land for a change?


You should specify that first
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:44 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Yeah and an invasion includes that. Until that exchange occures then no real war has occured and will be in GA as diplomacy.


Who's to say we couldn't have the war take place on, you know, MY land for a change?

Maybe, my military who won't do anything until you do.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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They did? I’ll remove them tomorrow. I’m not on my laptop rn.


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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:46 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Who's to say we couldn't have the war take place on, you know, MY land for a change?

Maybe, my military who won't do anything until you do.


I'm starting to think you might just be a tad bit afraid of losing another war.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Maybe, my military who won't do anything until you do.


I'm starting to think you might just be a tad bit afraid of losing another war.

Yes, so I am stopping you from invading me by using my allies and nukes.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
I'm starting to think you might just be a tad bit afraid of losing another war.

Yes, so I am stopping you from invading me by using my allies and nukes.


Threatening a nuclear strike just leads to poor roleplay, to be honest with you. Why didn't you do this the first time?
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Phenyzia
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Postby Phenyzia » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:51 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Yes, so I am stopping you from invading me by using my allies and nukes.


Threatening a nuclear strike just leads to poor roleplay, to be honest with you. Why didn't you do this the first time?


Personally I view the nuclear strike threat as a good IC way of signalling someone just doesn't want to fight a major war at the moment.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:51 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Yes, so I am stopping you from invading me by using my allies and nukes.


Threatening a nuclear strike just leads to poor roleplay, to be honest with you. Why didn't you do this the first time?

Because IC: AZNUP didn't think it possible that Armenia would actually do it.
OOC: I am sick of being invaded.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

#prolifebutnotlikethis

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Postby Romanic Imperium » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:53 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Maybe, my military who won't do anything until you do.


I'm starting to think you might just be a tad bit afraid of losing another war.


You should be afraid not Zn. ZN has CIS behind him
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:54 pm

Romanic Imperium wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
I'm starting to think you might just be a tad bit afraid of losing another war.


You should be afraid not Zn. ZN has CIS behind him

And I've got the IHC. A much larger (and much more influential) alliance.
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Postby Sebrenskiya » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:54 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Threatening a nuclear strike just leads to poor roleplay, to be honest with you. Why didn't you do this the first time?

Because IC: AZNUP didn't think it possible that Armenia would actually do it.
OOC: I am sick of being invaded.


have you tried not being a imperialist, warmongering genocidal power?
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:55 pm

Sebrenskiya wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Because IC: AZNUP didn't think it possible that Armenia would actually do it.
OOC: I am sick of being invaded.


have you tried not being a imperialist, warmongering genocidal power?

Yes I did. And it led to similar issues.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Phenyzia
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Postby Phenyzia » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:57 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Romanic Imperium wrote:
You should be afraid not Zn. ZN has CIS behind him

And I've got IHC, a much larger (and much more influential) alliance.


In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:58 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:And I've got IHC, a much larger (and much more influential) alliance.


In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.

Well OOC:
I would expect a lot more CIS members to join in then IHC.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

#prolifebutnotlikethis

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Postby Sebrenskiya » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:59 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:And I've got IHC, a much larger (and much more influential) alliance.


In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.

time to just blow up the phenyzian army as its murdering millions of french people for the horrific crime of exising
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:00 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.

Well OOC:
I would expect a lot more CIS members to join in then IHC.


I mean, I've been underestimated before...and, well, I doubt that only the IHC would get involved on my behalf.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:01 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Well OOC:
I would expect a lot more CIS members to join in then IHC.


I mean, I've been underestimated before...and, well, I doubt that only the IHC would get involved on my behalf.

or ya know. Your peacekeepers could try peace for once.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Phenyzia » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:01 pm

Sebrenskiya wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.

time to just blow up the phenyzian army as its murdering millions of french people for the horrific crime of exising


You'd be fighting a war you can't win.
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Postby GreatOceania » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:01 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:And I've got IHC, a much larger (and much more influential) alliance.


In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.


don't be cocky with proper tactics, organization, planning, and communication can do wonders in a war. An good example being the Aursian Civil War with KTO helping out the commies becoming a powerful faction
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:02 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Sebrenskiya wrote: time to just blow up the phenyzian army as its murdering millions of french people for the horrific crime of exising


You'd be fighting a war you can't win.


The Wehrmacht thought themselves to be "unbeatable" too...we all know how that ended, don't we?
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Postby GreatOceania » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:02 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
You'd be fighting a war you can't win.


The Wehrmacht thought themselves to be "unbeatable" too...we all know how that ended, don't we?


and on top of that they were fighting a 3 front war
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Postby Sebrenskiya » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:03 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Sebrenskiya wrote: time to just blow up the phenyzian army as its murdering millions of french people for the horrific crime of exising


You'd be fighting a war you can't win.


you make bold assumptions, i won't confirm or deny them yet
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Postby Phenyzia » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:04 pm

GreatOceania wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
In terms of amount of members and soft power? Perhaps. In terms of actual military power? I'm pretty sure just my standing army would demolish the entirety of the IHC, not even counting any reserves, mobilization or any CIS members.


don't be cocky with proper tactics, organization, planning, and communication can do wonders in a war. An good example being the Aursian Civil War with KTO helping out the commies becoming a powerful faction


It can, but it can only do so much against numerical superiority.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:07 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
GreatOceania wrote:
don't be cocky with proper tactics, organization, planning, and communication can do wonders in a war. An good example being the Aursian Civil War with KTO helping out the commies becoming a powerful faction


It can, but it can only do so much against numerical superiority.


The Reds were, initially, at a numerical disadvantage during the Battle of Stalingrad...again, we know how that turned out.
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