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South Americanastan
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:56 pm

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Yolaschnas, their military contribution which was quite vital during the Aursi war, a little bit of neato advice on my modifications clinic, and if JURA can convince the Rev Con, robots. SA recently joined the discord, but has made contributions

Not much in GA though

My guy, I literally run the thing. I also can't do anything IC until I finish overhauling my lore.
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Roma Republic » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:42 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:I guess so
Do you have an acronym I could use? You can use MRM

Federal Union of Guadalupador (FUG) is fine with me.

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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:05 pm

Ight so I read a few things back on UADC RMB or someting (was bored I swear) and I just cant help it but reply on Meretica's post

My sheer government size is larger than SM's, Janpia's, and yours put together-- 10,000 members of the legislature alone.


The Union of Party Members Committee (UPMC) is the legislative front that is coordinating with the Party Central, who manages the Commissars, laws, ministries appointed by the UPMC, order, enforcement of laws, adjourning and starting sessions, basically all things beurucratic. The Party Central members, numbering up to 1,000 is voted by the UPMC. Oh and back to the topic.

As the name suggest, the UPMC is a Union of Party Members. We define Party Members as how nations define citizenship. Thus, the UPMC is a direct democracy, manned by the the Party members themselves. The UPMC sessions at Fort Kalinka involves everyone who are willing to join the political spectrum or debates. Those who cant attend the UPMC sessions can say their concerns or whatever to a labor union representative, who must attend the UPMC sessions to voice out any concerns. The labor representative is a must on every workers unions, and it is a law. So in short, you can say that my legislation is well, the population. And thus, you can say that the UPMC Hall and building is the biggest room and building in Fort Kalinka
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GreatOceania
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Founded: Mar 25, 2021
Libertarian Police State

Postby GreatOceania » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:41 pm

Looking for affordable surplus to for reasons such as testing, Opfor training or whatever well come on down to Oceanian International Exports
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besides cheap equipment we also got the PT-726 up for sale

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Meretica
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Founded: Nov 16, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:11 pm

Janpia wrote:Ight so I read a few things back on UADC RMB or someting (was bored I swear) and I just cant help it but reply on Meretica's post

My sheer government size is larger than SM's, Janpia's, and yours put together-- 10,000 members of the legislature alone.


The Union of Party Members Committee (UPMC) is the legislative front that is coordinating with the Party Central, who manages the Commissars, laws, ministries appointed by the UPMC, order, enforcement of laws, adjourning and starting sessions, basically all things beurucratic. The Party Central members, numbering up to 1,000 is voted by the UPMC. Oh and back to the topic.

As the name suggest, the UPMC is a Union of Party Members. We define Party Members as how nations define citizenship. Thus, the UPMC is a direct democracy, manned by the the Party members themselves. The UPMC sessions at Fort Kalinka involves everyone who are willing to join the political spectrum or debates. Those who cant attend the UPMC sessions can say their concerns or whatever to a labor union representative, who must attend the UPMC sessions to voice out any concerns. The labor representative is a must on every workers unions, and it is a law. So in short, you can say that my legislation is well, the population. And thus, you can say that the UPMC Hall and building is the biggest room and building in Fort Kalinka

The general populace is hardly a legislative body, especially since a legislature is inherently required to be representative in some form or fashion There are five ways that a legislature may be representative:

Formalistically: how the rules of the legislature ensure representation of constituents;
Symbolically: how the constituents perceive their representatives;
Descriptively: how well the composition of the legislature matches the demographics of the wider society;
Substantively: how well representatives actually respond to the needs of their constituents;
Collectively: how well the representatives represent the interests of the society as a whole.

This is followed by the functions of deliberation, legislation, internal organization, etc. The general populace voting on legislation/laws is called a ballot measure or a referendum. It is inherently different.

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Postby The Aquaria » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:55 pm

ah, me when my president literally got assassinated but no one care
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Postby Janpia » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:08 am

Meretica wrote:
Janpia wrote:Ight so I read a few things back on UADC RMB or someting (was bored I swear) and I just cant help it but reply on Meretica's post



The Union of Party Members Committee (UPMC) is the legislative front that is coordinating with the Party Central, who manages the Commissars, laws, ministries appointed by the UPMC, order, enforcement of laws, adjourning and starting sessions, basically all things beurucratic. The Party Central members, numbering up to 1,000 is voted by the UPMC. Oh and back to the topic.

As the name suggest, the UPMC is a Union of Party Members. We define Party Members as how nations define citizenship. Thus, the UPMC is a direct democracy, manned by the the Party members themselves. The UPMC sessions at Fort Kalinka involves everyone who are willing to join the political spectrum or debates. Those who cant attend the UPMC sessions can say their concerns or whatever to a labor union representative, who must attend the UPMC sessions to voice out any concerns. The labor representative is a must on every workers unions, and it is a law. So in short, you can say that my legislation is well, the population. And thus, you can say that the UPMC Hall and building is the biggest room and building in Fort Kalinka

The general populace is hardly a legislative body, especially since a legislature is inherently required to be representative in some form or fashion There are five ways that a legislature may be representative:

Formalistically: how the rules of the legislature ensure representation of constituents;
Symbolically: how the constituents perceive their representatives;
Descriptively: how well the composition of the legislature matches the demographics of the wider society;
Substantively: how well representatives actually respond to the needs of their constituents;
Collectively: how well the representatives represent the interests of the society as a whole.

This is followed by the functions of deliberation, legislation, internal organization, etc. The general populace voting on legislation/laws is called a ballot measure or a referendum. It is inherently different.


Well if we are gonna count the number of worker's union representatives, its gonna go to a total of 22,487, which is also the total number of worker's unions in Janpia. Though I guess you could say it is in substantive form. But yes, you could say that ours is a referendum at the same time.

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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Ex-Nation

Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:21 am

The Aquaria wrote:ah, me when my president literally got assassinated but no one care

Now you know how I feel

Seriously though, he got assassinated? Let me see
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Phenyzia
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Corporate Police State

Postby Phenyzia » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:37 am

Janpia wrote:
Meretica wrote:The general populace is hardly a legislative body, especially since a legislature is inherently required to be representative in some form or fashion There are five ways that a legislature may be representative:

Formalistically: how the rules of the legislature ensure representation of constituents;
Symbolically: how the constituents perceive their representatives;
Descriptively: how well the composition of the legislature matches the demographics of the wider society;
Substantively: how well representatives actually respond to the needs of their constituents;
Collectively: how well the representatives represent the interests of the society as a whole.

This is followed by the functions of deliberation, legislation, internal organization, etc. The general populace voting on legislation/laws is called a ballot measure or a referendum. It is inherently different.


Well if we are gonna count the number of worker's union representatives, its gonna go to a total of 22,487, which is also the total number of worker's unions in Janpia. Though I guess you could say it is in substantive form. But yes, you could say that ours is a referendum at the same time.


Just put an assembly of 500 nobles, oligarchs and military officials in charge, and make sure the nobles higher up the chain can just veto any legislation they don't like. A much superior system, I guarantee it.
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Zeleniya
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Founded: Jul 12, 2022
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Zeleniya » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:53 am

First post into the IC!

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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:56 am

Zeleniya wrote:First post into the IC!

Another country who executes drug smugglers!
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Romextly
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Founded: Nov 10, 2018
Corporate Police State

Postby Romextly » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:02 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Zeleniya wrote:First post into the IC!

Another country who executes drug smugglers!

It's so good to see a felow brethren

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Phenyzia
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Corporate Police State

Postby Phenyzia » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:03 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Zeleniya wrote:First post into the IC!

Another country who executes drug smugglers!


Silly Muqaddasia, you don't execute them, you hire them to work overseas.
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Zeleniya
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Zeleniya » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:04 am

Romextly wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Another country who executes drug smugglers!

It's so good to see a felow brethren


The Zeleniyan anti-drug trafficking laws are strict to the point where there's an area between the airport gate and the customs area literally called the "Amnesty Zone" where you literally have one last chance to declare if you got anything illegal on you before running the likely chance of being caught and then executed by hanging. Also there's like a bunch of reminders at the departing airport, in the declaration forms and along the jet way as you arrive that drug smuggling and other acts against the state literally will get you killed.

Druggies that are honest and declare their narcotics can elect to go through secondary screening and then interrogation, and provided they are otherwise alright, they'll be let go with like a $100 fine and all their illegal stuff confiscated and burned.

In Jamal's case, he done straight up rushed through everything and choked up lmao
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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:14 am

Romextly wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Another country who executes drug smugglers!

It's so good to see a felow brethren

It is
Phenyzia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Another country who executes drug smugglers!


Silly Muqaddasia, you don't execute them, you hire them to work overseas.

But what am I going to do with all my ropes, ready to hang, then?
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Phenyzia
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Corporate Police State

Postby Phenyzia » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:20 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Romextly wrote:It's so good to see a felow brethren

It is
Phenyzia wrote:
Silly Muqaddasia, you don't execute them, you hire them to work overseas.

But what am I going to do with all my ropes, ready to hang, then?


You hang criminals that don't bring a profit of course.
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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:21 am

Phenyzia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:It is
But what am I going to do with all my ropes, ready to hang, then?


You hang criminals that don't bring a profit of course.

I like a working-class population that don’t take drugs. Or drink. Or smoke. Or vape.
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Zeleniya
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Zeleniya » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:25 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
You hang criminals that don't bring a profit of course.

I like a working-class population that don’t take drugs. Or drink. Or smoke. Or vape.


Or in the case of Zeleniya, have access to pornography. 8)

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Phenyzia
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Corporate Police State

Postby Phenyzia » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:25 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
You hang criminals that don't bring a profit of course.

I like a working-class population that don’t take drugs. Or drink. Or smoke. Or vape.


No, you see, you team up with them under the condition that your country is a safe haven for their operations and they hand over a cut of their profits, and in exchange they'll just sell whatever they produce locally overseas.

...I really should flesh out the mafia-like organization imperial intelligence works with closely on a global scale.
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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:29 am

Zeleniya wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:I like a working-class population that don’t take drugs. Or drink. Or smoke. Or vape.


Or in the case of Zeleniya, have access to pornography. 8)

You are frighteningly similar to Muqaddasia.
Phenyzia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:I like a working-class population that don’t take drugs. Or drink. Or smoke. Or vape.


No, you see, you team up with them under the condition that your country is a safe haven for their operations and they hand over a cut of their profits, and in exchange they'll just sell whatever they produce locally overseas.

...I really should flesh out the mafia-like organization imperial intelligence works with closely on a global scale.

Too late, RI is already mafia
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Phenyzia
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Postby Phenyzia » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:31 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Zeleniya wrote:
Or in the case of Zeleniya, have access to pornography. 8)

You are frighteningly similar to Muqaddasia.
Phenyzia wrote:
No, you see, you team up with them under the condition that your country is a safe haven for their operations and they hand over a cut of their profits, and in exchange they'll just sell whatever they produce locally overseas.

...I really should flesh out the mafia-like organization imperial intelligence works with closely on a global scale.

Too late, RI is already mafia


RI runs a mafia alliance, Phenyzia just works with a global criminal syndicate that happens to have close ties to imperial intelligence.
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Meretica
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Founded: Nov 16, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:36 am

Janpia wrote:
Meretica wrote:The general populace is hardly a legislative body, especially since a legislature is inherently required to be representative in some form or fashion There are five ways that a legislature may be representative:

Formalistically: how the rules of the legislature ensure representation of constituents;
Symbolically: how the constituents perceive their representatives;
Descriptively: how well the composition of the legislature matches the demographics of the wider society;
Substantively: how well representatives actually respond to the needs of their constituents;
Collectively: how well the representatives represent the interests of the society as a whole.

This is followed by the functions of deliberation, legislation, internal organization, etc. The general populace voting on legislation/laws is called a ballot measure or a referendum. It is inherently different.


Well if we are gonna count the number of worker's union representatives, its gonna go to a total of 22,487, which is also the total number of worker's unions in Janpia. Though I guess you could say it is in substantive form. But yes, you could say that ours is a referendum at the same time.

It would remain a referendum, yes, not substantive.

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Awesome Imperium
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Founded: Feb 04, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby Awesome Imperium » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:40 am

Phenyzia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:You are frighteningly similar to Muqaddasia.
Too late, RI is already mafia


RI runs a mafia alliance, Phenyzia just works with a global criminal syndicate that happens to have close ties to imperial intelligence.


RI runs a mafia? Oh hell nah.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:43 am

Awesome Imperium wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
RI runs a mafia alliance, Phenyzia just works with a global criminal syndicate that happens to have close ties to imperial intelligence.


RI runs a mafia? Oh hell nah.

Should’ve checked the fine print. By the way you want your princess back or…
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Romextly
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Corporate Police State

Postby Romextly » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:43 am

Meretica wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Well if we are gonna count the number of worker's union representatives, its gonna go to a total of 22,487, which is also the total number of worker's unions in Janpia. Though I guess you could say it is in substantive form. But yes, you could say that ours is a referendum at the same time.

It would remain a referendum, yes, not substantive.

Meretica, you knw they already killed the man right?

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