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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:36 am

Texkentuck wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:

Fred Edwards: “We don’t completely agree with Articles 3,4 and 5 due to a government already existing and the Galapagos at a point requiring coalition businesses to invest. Galapagos needs foreign investment to survive as a tourist paradise. We also completely disagree with a full on Galapagosian military.”


In walks Vice-President Melanie Karon Hilda with TFS security detail and 4 flag beeriors litterally drinking "beer" displaying the flags of Texkentuck-U.C.C.R. She has a bottle of Vodka in her right hand and in the other a small eloquent thin cigar. She has a smile on her face is in a great mood. She takes her seat and blurts out on the way hear I read the Articles implemented by the government of Southeast Marajarbia. This is more sound than expected and our nation will help in implementing this as the diplomatic approach to such a failed **** **** of a state....She then states The King Iles worked with a crooked dictator and then made a deal to be that crooked dictator and the people rebelled...Which they should and let democracy ring.....The stipulations on their military is fine by me because the threat of a dictator coming to power can only maintain power by a strong military force. But has the people of this failed state had the right to an election to decide if they want our assistance?!............. If they don't we should honor that as decent sovereign nations.......... As was presented to me that the nation is overrun with special interests by all nations of this grouping gathered today. So hears the deal.......(she relights cigar with a lighter made of Gold and puffs) We want In- but we want the people to know everything our government does will 100% benefit the people......."(Her head crooked back)...... We intend offer education to the people in having a robust economy and given the tools to tap into their own resources. In the process we offer for the Texkentuck Royal Navy to defend their operations at sea. We offer our military upon request for defense of their nation if an actors acts tyrannical to such a non-barbaric yet wealthy population.....(She looks at the nation of King Iles Diplomat then makes eye contact) The King Iles must never implement their monarchy as ruler of these people but must fall into the guidelines like all of our nations to act so in a cordial moral diplomatic way...(She pauses and takes a quick puff) then continues to state- For a people displaced by government beuacracy and corruption." (She then puffs a big cloud of smoke and looks out upon the diplomats with cigar raised to her face and calmly states) We believe our nations should all have an embassy in Galapagos with a minimum of 1000 personal including security of that number allowed to opperate. If the new government of Galapagos wishes to disperse members then they should have the right. If we were dispersed we will destroy what we created constructively and peaceful......( An evil yet innocent smile comes to her face)
VP Hilda takes a gulp of her vodka and a very eloquent puff...
(very serious and clearly stated) We also offer for the nation to enter into participation in our Federal exchange and all other foreign exchanges we are involved in which will allow for the people to have capital gains and security.... Also here is an invitation to newly elected Government officials to visit our nations state dinners. At our state dinners we always insure a decent or more than decent give away. Wink, wink.
She finishes and then one of the flag bearers blurts out this is the new renaissance and lets be the force to convey power. Then he laughs miniacly and gulps down his beer. One of the TFS tosses him a beer from a near by ice cooler....Then under the breath but heard a TFS agent yet overheard on the VP's microphone....The WA is a failed international organization of nations. This is the beginning madam Vice-President. X is going to give it to ya!!!...Then laughs manically. The VP laughs looking up at him.... Also overheard by the agent is once we get our embassy we can have 500 diplomats from Yaak offered....We have John Alesog the diplomat on speed dial madam Vice-President.

The Vice-President nicely nods her head and takes another gulp of Texk Vodka....And states but it will be our operation Sir....

(reluctantly The Vice President then states) Does anyone have anything to say? Is it ok for our members of the free press of the Texkentuck News Network to enter this meeting and record live for our citizens and the world at large?....Or are we totalitarians?......She looks around the room with wide drunken cute blue eyes....

The Kingmen representative states: you should support Galapagos independence, they are capitalist like you, We support them no matter what, Glory to Galapagos independence
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:53 am

Fred Edwards would update the Marajarbian Treaty once again, and put the following on the table:

The Galapagos Treaty (Second Draft)

Article 1: To ensure true democracy, all parties will continue to run, this includes right and left-wing parties to ensure a true democratic process takes place in a manner both free and fair. This will prevent the rising of any authoritarian regimes.

Article 2: Coalition Forces will slowly pull out of the Galapagos in 2 months, but the companies of coalition companies and immigrants that have arrived remain in the Galapagos. This is to ensure that coalition forces are pulled out.

Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA. With the Camps effectively serving as small towns and/or cities with their own farms and neighborhoods, small towns will be built on the site of each camp.

Article 4: The Galapagos shall hold elections for President and Parliament, with the position of Governor being reduced to the powers of a mere figurehead. In the event in which the Provisional Council deems that a state of emergency is necessary, the Provisional Council and Parliament will immediately assume control for the duration of the state of emergency.

Article 5: All Foreign nations involved in the Galapagos War, wether neutral, pro-GLA, or pro-Coalition, have the right to trade with the Tourist Paradise of the Galapagos. This is to prevent the collapse of the Galapagosian economy through isolation.

Article 6: Coalition troops will establish forward operating bases off the coast of the Galapagos to ensure that, in the event of a treaty violation, these rebels can be dealt with.

Article 7: The Galapagos cannot have an army, and will have to rely on the pro-Coalition Civil Defense Force instead. The Civil Defense Force is a de facto paramilitary organization trained by coalition soldiers, and thus is a perfectly capable military force. With the Civil Defense Force, the Galapagos cannot declare war nor can it enforce aggressive behavior on other nations.

Article 8: The Galapagos cannot have or develop nuclear weapons or any WMDs of any kind. If the Galapagos is found to have WMDs, the Provisional Council will initiate a state of emergency.

Article 9: The Provisional Council will still remain and be above the Galapagos Government temporarily to ensure that the treaty isn't violated.

Article 10: The Free States of the Galapagos is to be recognized by all sides as a Galapagos and nation independent from the Tourist Paradise of the Galapagos.

Article 11: The Coalition made Constitution is recognized as the official Galapagosian Constitution, ensuring that the Tourist Paradise remains a Tourist Paradise by having a system in which natives and immigrants benefit and having a mixed economy in place.

Article 12: The GLA is to be fully dissolved as per this treaty, approximately the moment when coalition troops fully withdraw. This is to ensure a lasting peace, with both of the sides in the brutal conflict being removed ensuring peace and prosperity for all sides involved as well as for Galapagosian citizens.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:47 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Fred Edwards would update the Marajarbian Treaty once again, and put the following on the table:

The Galapagos Treaty (Second Draft)

Article 1: To ensure true democracy, all parties will continue to run, this includes right and left-wing parties to ensure a true democratic process takes place in a manner both free and fair. This will prevent the rising of any authoritarian regimes.

Article 2: Coalition Forces will slowly pull out of the Galapagos in 2 months, but the companies of coalition companies and immigrants that have arrived remain in the Galapagos. This is to ensure that coalition forces are pulled out.

Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA. With the Camps effectively serving as small towns and/or cities with their own farms and neighborhoods, small towns will be built on the site of each camp.

Article 4: The Galapagos shall hold elections for President and Parliament, with the position of Governor being reduced to the powers of a mere figurehead. In the event in which the Provisional Council deems that a state of emergency is necessary, the Provisional Council and Parliament will immediately assume control for the duration of the state of emergency.

Article 5: All Foreign nations involved in the Galapagos War, wether neutral, pro-GLA, or pro-Coalition, have the right to trade with the Tourist Paradise of the Galapagos. This is to prevent the collapse of the Galapagosian economy through isolation.

Article 6: Coalition troops will establish forward operating bases off the coast of the Galapagos to ensure that, in the event of a treaty violation, these rebels can be dealt with.

Article 7: The Galapagos cannot have an army, and will have to rely on the pro-Coalition Civil Defense Force instead. The Civil Defense Force is a de facto paramilitary organization trained by coalition soldiers, and thus is a perfectly capable military force. With the Civil Defense Force, the Galapagos cannot declare war nor can it enforce aggressive behavior on other nations.

Article 8: The Galapagos cannot have or develop nuclear weapons or any WMDs of any kind. If the Galapagos is found to have WMDs, the Provisional Council will initiate a state of emergency.

Article 9: The Provisional Council will still remain and be above the Galapagos Government temporarily to ensure that the treaty isn't violated.

Article 10: The Free States of the Galapagos is to be recognized by all sides as a Galapagos and nation independent from the Tourist Paradise of the Galapagos.

Article 11: The Coalition made Constitution is recognized as the official Galapagosian Constitution, ensuring that the Tourist Paradise remains a Tourist Paradise by having a system in which natives and immigrants benefit and having a mixed economy in place.

Article 12: The GLA is to be fully dissolved as per this treaty, approximately the moment when coalition troops fully withdraw. This is to ensure a lasting peace, with both of the sides in the brutal conflict being removed ensuring peace and prosperity for all sides involved as well as for Galapagosian citizens.

Again we must state that we will need an army to prevent facists like you from taking power. The provisional government is to be at least abolished if not arrested for their war crimes. We are never going to become communists and your “constitution” is more of an attempt to enslave the Galapagos. Article 6 must be abandoned as we will never trust you near our sovereign soil and we can only assume you will use them as a further attempt to enforce your crooked vision on the world. The rest are ok to eh but the ones mentioned above must be removed to ensure peace.
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Postby The Territories of Sealand » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:09 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Fred Edwards would update the Marajarbian Treaty once again, and put the following on the table:

The Galapagos Treaty (Second Draft)

Article 1: To ensure true democracy, all parties will continue to run, this includes right and left-wing parties to ensure a true democratic process takes place in a manner both free and fair. This will prevent the rising of any authoritarian regimes.

Article 2: Coalition Forces will slowly pull out of the Galapagos in 2 months, but the companies of coalition companies and immigrants that have arrived remain in the Galapagos. This is to ensure that coalition forces are pulled out.

Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA. With the Camps effectively serving as small towns and/or cities with their own farms and neighborhoods, small towns will be built on the site of each camp.

Article 4: The Galapagos shall hold elections for President and Parliament, with the position of Governor being reduced to the powers of a mere figurehead. In the event in which the Provisional Council deems that a state of emergency is necessary, the Provisional Council and Parliament will immediately assume control for the duration of the state of emergency.

Article 5: All Foreign nations involved in the Galapagos War, wether neutral, pro-GLA, or pro-Coalition, have the right to trade with the Tourist Paradise of the Galapagos. This is to prevent the collapse of the Galapagosian economy through isolation.

Article 6: Coalition troops will establish forward operating bases off the coast of the Galapagos to ensure that, in the event of a treaty violation, these rebels can be dealt with.

Article 7: The Galapagos cannot have an army, and will have to rely on the pro-Coalition Civil Defense Force instead. The Civil Defense Force is a de facto paramilitary organization trained by coalition soldiers, and thus is a perfectly capable military force. With the Civil Defense Force, the Galapagos cannot declare war nor can it enforce aggressive behavior on other nations.

Article 8: The Galapagos cannot have or develop nuclear weapons or any WMDs of any kind. If the Galapagos is found to have WMDs, the Provisional Council will initiate a state of emergency.

Article 9: The Provisional Council will still remain and be above the Galapagos Government temporarily to ensure that the treaty isn't violated.

Article 10: The Free States of the Galapagos is to be recognized by all sides as a Galapagos and nation independent from the Tourist Paradise of the Galapagos.

Article 11: The Coalition made Constitution is recognized as the official Galapagosian Constitution, ensuring that the Tourist Paradise remains a Tourist Paradise by having a system in which natives and immigrants benefit and having a mixed economy in place.

Article 12: The GLA is to be fully dissolved as per this treaty, approximately the moment when coalition troops fully withdraw. This is to ensure a lasting peace, with both of the sides in the brutal conflict being removed ensuring peace and prosperity for all sides involved as well as for Galapagosian citizens.

Again we must state that we will need an army to prevent facists like you from taking power. The provisional government is to be at least abolished if not arrested for their war crimes. We are never going to become communists and your “constitution” is more of an attempt to enslave the Galapagos. Article 6 must be abandoned as we will never trust you near our sovereign soil and we can only assume you will use them as a further attempt to enforce your crooked vision on the world. The rest are ok to eh but the ones mentioned above must be removed to ensure peace.


'I reiterate that Janpia's suggestion for the Galapagosian military should replace Article 7. Both the GLA and the provisional government become disbanded within the next few months, the Galapagos should get to make their own constitution, army, economic policy both for trade and their economic model, and they can choose which country's troops are allowed on their soil as long as the constitution does not violate the treaty, the army stays out of politics and WMDs are not made, and I reiterate that the GLA and coalition should try to ease relations, to ensure that the coalition does not feel the need to invade the Galapagos and vice versa. If either side does not wish to improve relations, then both sides should sign a NAP. Neutral observers should ensure that the treaty is followed, rather than an organization that either side mistrusts. Socialist and communist parties could exist, as I don't believe that anyone in the Galapagos would vote for them, so they probably wouldn't win any elections anyway. I think that covers all of the issues with the current draft.'
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm

How about this treaty

The Galapagos Peace Treaty


Article 1: To ensure democracy all parties will run even socialist and communist parties
Article 2: Coalition forces will pull out over 1 month and government owned corporations will be auctioned off to the highest bidder
Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA.
Article 4: SM immigrants moved here for the specific goal of destroying the Galapagos culture will be encouraged to move and will become 2nd class citizens
Article 5: Coalition nations will have the right to trade with the Galapagos but with heavy restrictions and tariffs until their motives are more clear and less facist
Article 6: The position of governor will be completely abolished due to it’s unpopularity and the Galapagos will be run in a parliamentary system
Article 7: The constitution will be abandoned due to it being an obvious attempt to puppet the Galapagos
Article 8: Until democratic elections can be called the Galapagos will be run by the Free State of the Galapagos and the two Galapagoses will merge.
Article 9: The provisional government is to be immediately dissolved with the leaders arrested for war crimes
Article 10: The GLA is to become the Galapagos military and that military is to have no restrictions on its size
Article 11: The Galapagos and the coalition are to sign a non-aggression pact for an undetermined amount of years
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:59 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:How about this treaty

The Galapagos Peace Treaty


Article 1: To ensure democracy all parties will run even socialist and communist parties
Article 2: Coalition forces will pull out over 1 month and government owned corporations will be auctioned off to the highest bidder
Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA.
Article 4: SM immigrants moved here for the specific goal of destroying the Galapagos culture will be encouraged to move and will become 2nd class citizens
Article 5: Coalition nations will have the right to trade with the Galapagos but with heavy restrictions and tariffs until their motives are more clear and less facist
Article 6: The position of governor will be completely abolished due to it’s unpopularity and the Galapagos will be run in a parliamentary system
Article 7: The constitution will be abandoned due to it being an obvious attempt to puppet the Galapagos
Article 8: Until democratic elections can be called the Galapagos will be run by the Free State of the Galapagos and the two Galapagoses will merge.
Article 9: The provisional government is to be immediately dissolved with the leaders arrested for war crimes
Article 10: The GLA is to become the Galapagos military and that military is to have no restrictions on its size
Article 11: The Galapagos and the coalition are to sign a non-aggression pact for an undetermined amount of years



Fred Edwards: “The Marajarbian Treaty is still a better deal as it means peace for the Tourist Paradise as well as further economic development through free trade. This proposed Galapagosian treaty would simply be considered as extremely racist, considering that it still calls for hate crimes and racially induced violence against foreign immigrants.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:05 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:How about this treaty

The Galapagos Peace Treaty


Article 1: To ensure democracy all parties will run even socialist and communist parties
Article 2: Coalition forces will pull out over 1 month and government owned corporations will be auctioned off to the highest bidder
Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA.
Article 4: SM immigrants moved here for the specific goal of destroying the Galapagos culture will be encouraged to move and will become 2nd class citizens
Article 5: Coalition nations will have the right to trade with the Galapagos but with heavy restrictions and tariffs until their motives are more clear and less facist
Article 6: The position of governor will be completely abolished due to it’s unpopularity and the Galapagos will be run in a parliamentary system
Article 7: The constitution will be abandoned due to it being an obvious attempt to puppet the Galapagos
Article 8: Until democratic elections can be called the Galapagos will be run by the Free State of the Galapagos and the two Galapagoses will merge.
Article 9: The provisional government is to be immediately dissolved with the leaders arrested for war crimes
Article 10: The GLA is to become the Galapagos military and that military is to have no restrictions on its size
Article 11: The Galapagos and the coalition are to sign a non-aggression pact for an undetermined amount of years



Fred Edwards: “The Marajarbian Treaty is still a better deal as it means peace for the Tourist Paradise as well as further economic development through free trade. This proposed Galapagosian treaty would simply be considered as extremely racist, considering that it still calls for hate crimes and racially induced violence against foreign immigrants.

And you want the immigrants to be the only ones to have rights. It is also not all immigrants but immigrants that you moved just to destroy Galapagos culture. Finally when will you get it through your thick skull, the Galapagos will never be your tourist paradise. We will never be slaves to you nor your facist regime.
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:08 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:How about this treaty

The Galapagos Peace Treaty


Article 1: To ensure democracy all parties will run even socialist and communist parties
Article 2: Coalition forces will pull out over 1 month and government owned corporations will be auctioned off to the highest bidder
Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA.
Article 4: SM immigrants moved here for the specific goal of destroying the Galapagos culture will be encouraged to move and will become 2nd class citizens
Article 5: Coalition nations will have the right to trade with the Galapagos but with heavy restrictions and tariffs until their motives are more clear and less facist
Article 6: The position of governor will be completely abolished due to it’s unpopularity and the Galapagos will be run in a parliamentary system
Article 7: The constitution will be abandoned due to it being an obvious attempt to puppet the Galapagos
Article 8: Until democratic elections can be called the Galapagos will be run by the Free State of the Galapagos and the two Galapagoses will merge.
Article 9: The provisional government is to be immediately dissolved with the leaders arrested for war crimes
Article 10: The GLA is to become the Galapagos military and that military is to have no restrictions on its size
Article 11: The Galapagos and the coalition are to sign a non-aggression pact for an undetermined amount of years

The Kingmen Representative approves of this
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:11 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:How about this treaty

The Galapagos Peace Treaty


Article 1: To ensure democracy all parties will run even socialist and communist parties
Article 2: Coalition forces will pull out over 1 month and government owned corporations will be auctioned off to the highest bidder
Article 3: The Hard Labor Camps are to be abolished completely, and Galapagosian prisoners of war freed regardless if they are Pro-Coalition or Pro-GLA.
Article 4: SM immigrants moved here for the specific goal of destroying the Galapagos culture will be encouraged to move and will become 2nd class citizens
Article 5: Coalition nations will have the right to trade with the Galapagos but with heavy restrictions and tariffs until their motives are more clear and less facist
Article 6: The position of governor will be completely abolished due to it’s unpopularity and the Galapagos will be run in a parliamentary system
Article 7: The constitution will be abandoned due to it being an obvious attempt to puppet the Galapagos
Article 8: Until democratic elections can be called the Galapagos will be run by the Free State of the Galapagos and the two Galapagoses will merge.
Article 9: The provisional government is to be immediately dissolved with the leaders arrested for war crimes
Article 10: The GLA is to become the Galapagos military and that military is to have no restrictions on its size
Article 11: The Galapagos and the coalition are to sign a non-aggression pact for an undetermined amount of years

"Other then immigrants being treated as second class citizens and no limits on Galapagos military after the war(Something like a maxium of 600,000 troops and no WDMs with inspectors enforcing) would be advised. Tho all over this is a very reasonable compromis and has our approval."
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:15 pm

How about this?
The Treaty of Glasgow
1. The governor position will be abolished
2. All forces occupying the Galapagos are to leave
3. The GLA become the military of the Galapagos with no restrictions on size
4. The Provisional government is to be immediately arrested and can face the death penalty
5. The Galapagos goes back to native control
6. The immigrants sent to silence the Galapagos people are to be deported from the Galapagos
7. The Constitution is scrapped
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:19 pm

The King Isle wrote:How about this?
The Treaty of Glasgow
1. The governor position will be abolished
2. All forces occupying the Galapagos are to leave
3. The GLA become the military of the Galapagos with no restrictions on size
4. The Provisional government is to be immediately arrested and can face the death penalty
5. The Galapagos goes back to native control
6. The immigrants sent to silence the Galapagos people are to be deported from the Galapagos


Fred Edwards: "Definitely not! These talks are starting to go nowhere. The Marajarbian Treaty is the only treaty that actively promotes peace between all sides involved. Any treaties written by the GLA's side are either genocidal or threaten the deportation of Marajarbian and other Foreign Citizens."
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:22 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The King Isle wrote:How about this?
The Treaty of Glasgow
1. The governor position will be abolished
2. All forces occupying the Galapagos are to leave
3. The GLA become the military of the Galapagos with no restrictions on size
4. The Provisional government is to be immediately arrested and can face the death penalty
5. The Galapagos goes back to native control
6. The immigrants sent to silence the Galapagos people are to be deported from the Galapagos


Fred Edwards: "Definitely not! These talks are starting to go nowhere. The Marajarbian Treaty is the only treaty that actively promotes peace between all sides involved. Any treaties written by the GLA's side are either genocidal or threaten the deportation of Marajarbian and other Foreign Citizens."

The Kingmen Representative says, all you care about is expanding your fascist regime, you only care for your own people. The Galapagosians matter more than some immigrants, the People Of The Galapagos get to decide as its their bloody country, wrap it around your head that its not going to go well
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:22 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The King Isle wrote:How about this?
The Treaty of Glasgow
1. The governor position will be abolished
2. All forces occupying the Galapagos are to leave
3. The GLA become the military of the Galapagos with no restrictions on size
4. The Provisional government is to be immediately arrested and can face the death penalty
5. The Galapagos goes back to native control
6. The immigrants sent to silence the Galapagos people are to be deported from the Galapagos


Fred Edwards: "Definitely not! These talks are starting to go nowhere. The Marajarbian Treaty is the only treaty that actively promotes peace between all sides involved. Any treaties written by the GLA's side are either genocidal or threaten the deportation of Marajarbian and other Foreign Citizens."

Your treaty’s only promote your own personal agenda and do nothing to help the people of the Galapagos. You refuse to negotiate with us and just try to put down your facist treaty over and over again.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:25 pm

The King Isle wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Fred Edwards: "Definitely not! These talks are starting to go nowhere. The Marajarbian Treaty is the only treaty that actively promotes peace between all sides involved. Any treaties written by the GLA's side are either genocidal or threaten the deportation of Marajarbian and other Foreign Citizens."

The Kingmen Representative says, all you care about is expanding your fascist regime, you only care for your own people. The Galapagosians matter more than some immigrants, the People Of The Galapagos get to decide as its their bloody country, wrap it around your head that its not going to go well


Fred Edwards: "Then it seems that these negotiations are failing. I call on the Mereticans to either end these talks or to prohibit any further discussion from the Galapagosian and Kingmen Representatives, as they are actively refusing peace treaties that benefit all sides involved."
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:29 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The King Isle wrote:The Kingmen Representative says, all you care about is expanding your fascist regime, you only care for your own people. The Galapagosians matter more than some immigrants, the People Of The Galapagos get to decide as its their bloody country, wrap it around your head that its not going to go well


Fred Edwards: "Then it seems that these negotiations are failing. I call on the Mereticans to either end these talks or to prohibit any further discussion from the Galapagosian and Kingmen Representatives, as they are actively refusing peace treaties that benefit all sides involved."

Your treaty’s benefit you and you only. Me and King Isle will continue to oppose you until your treaty benefits all not just you
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The King Isle
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:30 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The King Isle wrote:The Kingmen Representative says, all you care about is expanding your fascist regime, you only care for your own people. The Galapagosians matter more than some immigrants, the People Of The Galapagos get to decide as its their bloody country, wrap it around your head that its not going to go well


Fred Edwards: "Then it seems that these negotiations are failing. I call on the Mereticans to either end these talks or to prohibit any further discussion from the Galapagosian and Kingmen Representatives, as they are actively refusing peace treaties that benefit all sides involved."

That's a horrible Idea, you shouldn't treat a diplomat like that
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Zarnicovia nova
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:32 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The King Isle wrote:The Kingmen Representative says, all you care about is expanding your fascist regime, you only care for your own people. The Galapagosians matter more than some immigrants, the People Of The Galapagos get to decide as its their bloody country, wrap it around your head that its not going to go well


Fred Edwards: "Then it seems that these negotiations are failing. I call on the Mereticans to either end these talks or to prohibit any further discussion from the Galapagosian and Kingmen Representatives, as they are actively refusing peace treaties that benefit all sides involved."

"May aswell say not alks without the Galapagosian repisentive! You may takedown TKI as they are not a major power(They are a power) but by silencing the power of one sides ends all talks. The GLA has given up most of the deporting and anti-Foreign stuff. They haven gaven most of the economic concessions what more do you want?"
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:35 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Fred Edwards: "Then it seems that these negotiations are failing. I call on the Mereticans to either end these talks or to prohibit any further discussion from the Galapagosian and Kingmen Representatives, as they are actively refusing peace treaties that benefit all sides involved."

"May aswell say not alks without the Galapagosian repisentive! You may takedown TKI as they are not a major power(They are a power) but by silencing the power of one sides ends all talks. The GLA has given up most of the deporting and anti-Foreign stuff. They haven gaven most of the economic concessions what more do you want?"


Fred Edwards: "What I am trying to obtain is a successful peace treaty. The Marajarbian Treaty is a damned good one that benefits all sides. The Galapagosian and Kingmen treaties are not good as they promote violence. The Deblarian Treaty is, by all means, decent, but foreign interference is the primary reason why I don't support it at this point."
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:37 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:"May aswell say not alks without the Galapagosian repisentive! You may takedown TKI as they are not a major power(They are a power) but by silencing the power of one sides ends all talks. The GLA has given up most of the deporting and anti-Foreign stuff. They haven gaven most of the economic concessions what more do you want?"


Fred Edwards: "What I am trying to obtain is a successful peace treaty. The Marajarbian Treaty is a damned good one that benefits all sides. The Galapagosian and Kingmen treaties are not good as they promote violence. The Deblarian Treaty is, by all means, decent, but foreign interference is the primary reason why I don't support it at this point."

Your idea of "successful" is really a fascist ploy to turn the Galapagos into your puppet, says the Kingmen Representative
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:37 pm

Ok so we can remove the part of treating your immigrants as second class citizens. We are willing to make some concessions what more do you want?
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Postby The King Isle » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:52 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Ok so we can remove the part of treating your immigrants as second class citizens. We are willing to make some concessions what more do you want?

That is a good idea, we just don't want The Galapagos to become a slave state
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Postby The Territories of Sealand » Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:06 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Ok so we can remove the part of treating your immigrants as second class citizens. We are willing to make some concessions what more do you want?


As long as the GLA can't become politically powerful in the treaty, and when democratic elections should be held is stated, I'd be in complete support of the GLA's peace proposal with the immigrants being second-class citizen part removed. We believe that the GLA shouldn't get involved in politics to ensure that the democracy doesn't fall to a coup, and the point when democratic elections can begin should also be stated, so that no one from either side uses the phrase
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Until democratic elections can be called
as a loophole after the treaty is signed.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:52 pm

The Territories of Sealand wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Ok so we can remove the part of treating your immigrants as second class citizens. We are willing to make some concessions what more do you want?


As long as the GLA can't become politically powerful in the treaty, and when democratic elections should be held is stated, I'd be in complete support of the GLA's peace proposal with the immigrants being second-class citizen part removed. We believe that the GLA shouldn't get involved in politics to ensure that the democracy doesn't fall to a coup, and the point when democratic elections can begin should also be stated, so that no one from either side uses the phrase
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Until democratic elections can be called
as a loophole after the treaty is signed.

The GLA shall assume the role as the military and the Free State of the Galapagos government as the government until elections can be held
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Postby Deblar » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:14 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
The Territories of Sealand wrote:
As long as the GLA can't become politically powerful in the treaty, and when democratic elections should be held is stated, I'd be in complete support of the GLA's peace proposal with the immigrants being second-class citizen part removed. We believe that the GLA shouldn't get involved in politics to ensure that the democracy doesn't fall to a coup, and the point when democratic elections can begin should also be stated, so that no one from either side uses the phrase as a loophole after the treaty is signed.

The GLA shall assume the role as the military and the Free State of the Galapagos government as the government until elections can be held

“The Free State will remain as such- free. The refugees that came into our care formed their own government separate from the GLA for a reason.”

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Postby Texkentuck » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:58 pm

The King Isle wrote:
Texkentuck wrote:
In walks Vice-President Melanie Karon Hilda with TFS security detail and 4 flag beeriors litterally drinking "beer" displaying the flags of Texkentuck-U.C.C.R. She has a bottle of Vodka in her right hand and in the other a small eloquent thin cigar. She has a smile on her face is in a great mood. She takes her seat and blurts out on the way hear I read the Articles implemented by the government of Southeast Marajarbia. This is more sound than expected and our nation will help in implementing this as the diplomatic approach to such a failed **** **** of a state....She then states The King Iles worked with a crooked dictator and then made a deal to be that crooked dictator and the people rebelled...Which they should and let democracy ring.....The stipulations on their military is fine by me because the threat of a dictator coming to power can only maintain power by a strong military force. But has the people of this failed state had the right to an election to decide if they want our assistance?!............. If they don't we should honor that as decent sovereign nations.......... As was presented to me that the nation is overrun with special interests by all nations of this grouping gathered today. So hears the deal.......(she relights cigar with a lighter made of Gold and puffs) We want In- but we want the people to know everything our government does will 100% benefit the people......."(Her head crooked back)...... We intend offer education to the people in having a robust economy and given the tools to tap into their own resources. In the process we offer for the Texkentuck Royal Navy to defend their operations at sea. We offer our military upon request for defense of their nation if an actors acts tyrannical to such a non-barbaric yet wealthy population.....(She looks at the nation of King Iles Diplomat then makes eye contact) The King Iles must never implement their monarchy as ruler of these people but must fall into the guidelines like all of our nations to act so in a cordial moral diplomatic way...(She pauses and takes a quick puff) then continues to state- For a people displaced by government beuacracy and corruption." (She then puffs a big cloud of smoke and looks out upon the diplomats with cigar raised to her face and calmly states) We believe our nations should all have an embassy in Galapagos with a minimum of 1000 personal including security of that number allowed to opperate. If the new government of Galapagos wishes to disperse members then they should have the right. If we were dispersed we will destroy what we created constructively and peaceful......( An evil yet innocent smile comes to her face)
VP Hilda takes a gulp of her vodka and a very eloquent puff...
(very serious and clearly stated) We also offer for the nation to enter into participation in our Federal exchange and all other foreign exchanges we are involved in which will allow for the people to have capital gains and security.... Also here is an invitation to newly elected Government officials to visit our nations state dinners. At our state dinners we always insure a decent or more than decent give away. Wink, wink.
She finishes and then one of the flag bearers blurts out this is the new renaissance and lets be the force to convey power. Then he laughs miniacly and gulps down his beer. One of the TFS tosses him a beer from a near by ice cooler....Then under the breath but heard a TFS agent yet overheard on the VP's microphone....The WA is a failed international organization of nations. This is the beginning madam Vice-President. X is going to give it to ya!!!...Then laughs manically. The VP laughs looking up at him.... Also overheard by the agent is once we get our embassy we can have 500 diplomats from Yaak offered....We have John Alesog the diplomat on speed dial madam Vice-President.

The Vice-President nicely nods her head and takes another gulp of Texk Vodka....And states but it will be our operation Sir....

(reluctantly The Vice President then states) Does anyone have anything to say? Is it ok for our members of the free press of the Texkentuck News Network to enter this meeting and record live for our citizens and the world at large?....Or are we totalitarians?......She looks around the room with wide drunken cute blue eyes....

The Kingmen representative states: you should support Galapagos independence, they are capitalist like you, We support them no matter what, Glory to Galapagos independence

(Hilda takes another sip)
This goes beyond capitalism....Our nation is the U.C.C.R!! Our nation condemns the overreach of your government putting down the protesters of a Soverein nation referring to the population as fascist. We hope that our nations may work together to insure peace in this Soverein nation. Our embassies must be in place of this nation do to the high tension to coordinate the new government not to honor our leaders but to have mutual respect.The people have a right to their natural resources. Not my nation nor yours has the rights to this nations resources. Both of our nations must work in coordinating a free and democratic government of their interest and values. Has your nation pulled out the majority of a paramilitary force putting down their protests? If so our nations have an understanding....If not........We ask for our military to be present as well and we should divvy up the nation under the control of the governments insuring peace. Our territory will not be ruled solely by Texkentuck but will implement their idea of democracy and we will drawl down our presence politically and militarily. If a deal to do this is past we will send 1,000,000 troops to work with their military forces that are in that part of the nation. We do not see the nation as barbaric but protesting a foreign government that bought their nation from a dictator for a price....(melanie Hilda takes a puff) She then smiles and states how has your nation spoke of insuring democracy/free-enterprise and insuring they are in-charge of their government and economy with out promotion of your nations monarchy rule or solution that doesn't involve your government being the center of power to a separate people? Are we setting up a government by the people and that has a free capitalistic market lead by their industries to be? We intend to cooperate with the new government and to cooperate with nations who insure their sovereignty by not taking advantage of their unfortunate situation. We are here to assist in insuring the government is in the hands of the people and since the situation has many involved already we are here too but we will tread lightly. I have a statement by President Bram W. Schirkophf. It states our nation has not set up any of our industries in this nation which we may easily do to allow for the drilling of their oil or to reap the resources of their fall out. We condemn the act of nations that are good nations in buying failed states from dictators only to bring in a paramilitary and call for compliance.....

Worse case-If King Iles must rule then so must our nations rule too!! The draft then will state we all have a territory in Galapagos. We believe the nation of Galapagos is the only nation to decide whom they sell to, and whom they decide to coordinate with in regards to trade and diplomacy. If we decide that it will be ruled by the citizens then we request an embassy with the new government. Also the government will implement whom they trade with regardless of the deal the King Isles made with a corrupt dictator not supported by the people of Galapagos. Our government if rejected by the people and new government we will not build an embassy and we will simply implement our own diplomacy if it's in our nations interests which at this time isn't. The people will then reap what they sow. Be ruled by a foreign monarchy you don't want for all we care....But if they accept us and the King Ilses continues to disregard their sovereignty... We will diplomatically and possibly militarily support the new government/majority protesting at all costs....We will cut off the oil tankers that steal from the nation and shut down any foreign operation as all costs for the people of Galapagos....Galapagos should be supported in being a free nation of their own making. The majority which practices capitalism and free market trade must persist on...(Hilda takes a puff of her cigar) King Iles are you willing to withdrawal paramilitary forces once we together implement a separate and new government and we let the island have full rule by their people which is for building a democratically, capitalistic, nationalistic, and conservative government lead by the people? Galapagos was ruled by a fascist dictator.....They clearly don't want another so the protests is about their culture, and sovereignty to have their own government. It's not possible for the new government to suppress their own people or for their to be a dictator we are here but we must insure no one government gets the best deal of all. The best deal is they have a government seperate of our authority in the end and if they are fascist they will be brought down. Currently their isn't a government so who the heck is it to say they are fascist. These are people who want to rule their own nation.
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