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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:45 am

South Americanastan wrote:Revised edition is finished!

Now it's much better!
The Visegrad Empire, a federal union of states formed by Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Poland


IC my state is Called Union of the Empire of Visegrad, or Visegrad, OOC Grande Germania or whatever you like

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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:45 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Yea, I guess.

Well, missed chance at this point unless you wanna run the (virtual) blockade and wire up a careful exchange of arms for oil for the coming reclamation war.

Oh yea, also bring a suit. A hazmat suit. Preferably something with a high rating, or sound protection against radiation and fallout.

*basically the oil capital of the world here*

But you see, we take material payment instead of dosh.
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[GNN] Check [hyperlink blocked] for further instructions or [frequency blocked]. /// Finland holds off Russian advance, Baltic sea turned into a "bathtub from hell". /// Strange signals from space, likely a dysfunctional probe /// New body armor rolling off the line, onto Gonswanzan soldiers /// Canada declares war against the US after a bloody coup. /// Japan deploys infantry to Korea, post-unification.

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Nova Catania
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nova Catania » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:46 am

South Americanastan wrote:A couple of us in the LDO decided to make a map of the world, taking account overlapping land claims!

For logistical reasons, nations based on fictional continents/islands could not be included. Unfortunately, Southeast Marajarbia could not be included either, because, when contacted for a map, he told EURF that they were "sus" and that SM was "Onto [them]", along with questioning "Why [he] should give a map to [them]?".

Anyway, here's the map!

(Image)

If I've missed anyone or screwed up a land claim, feel free to point it out so I can fix it.

If it’s possible, could you add a medium-sized island in the middle of the Atlantic? About the size of Iceland. Shaped like, umm. I’ll find a picture.

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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:47 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:*basically the oil capital of the world here*

But you see, we take material payment instead of dosh.


Ooo I like that method. Trading ala communist way. Maybe I'll buy oil. What can 7000 tons of steel get me?

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:53 am

Janpia wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:But you see, we take material payment instead of dosh.


Ooo I like that method. Trading ala communist way. Maybe I'll buy oil. What can 7000 tons of steel get me?

More or less like, 25k barrels of oil, given the excess. Alas, weapons are preferred, but steel is fine too as long as it's not raw, unrefined ore.
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Praise our glorious leader Laura Ortiz!
Yea, I sell things. Lots of things. KTO Member!
Amistad Declaration signatory! Down with slavery!
[GNN] Check [hyperlink blocked] for further instructions or [frequency blocked]. /// Finland holds off Russian advance, Baltic sea turned into a "bathtub from hell". /// Strange signals from space, likely a dysfunctional probe /// New body armor rolling off the line, onto Gonswanzan soldiers /// Canada declares war against the US after a bloody coup. /// Japan deploys infantry to Korea, post-unification.

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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:57 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Ooo I like that method. Trading ala communist way. Maybe I'll buy oil. What can 7000 tons of steel get me?

More or less like, 25k barrels of oil, given the excess. Alas, weapons are preferred, but steel is fine too as long as it's not raw, unrefined ore.


Cool. Maybe I'll give you a box of 7.62 stuff.

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:08 am

Janpia wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:More or less like, 25k barrels of oil, given the excess. Alas, weapons are preferred, but steel is fine too as long as it's not raw, unrefined ore.


Cool. Maybe I'll give you a box of 7.62 stuff.

30k barrels it is then.
Praise our glorious leader Laura Ortiz!
Yea, I sell things. Lots of things. KTO Member!
Amistad Declaration signatory! Down with slavery!
[GNN] Check [hyperlink blocked] for further instructions or [frequency blocked]. /// Finland holds off Russian advance, Baltic sea turned into a "bathtub from hell". /// Strange signals from space, likely a dysfunctional probe /// New body armor rolling off the line, onto Gonswanzan soldiers /// Canada declares war against the US after a bloody coup. /// Japan deploys infantry to Korea, post-unification.

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Janpia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Janpia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:10 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Cool. Maybe I'll give you a box of 7.62 stuff.

30k barrels it is then.


Ight. I'll post in IC. Although just asking, how many boxes exactly for those amount?
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Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Gonswanza
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Founded: Aug 13, 2021
Father Knows Best State

Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:17 am

Janpia wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:30k barrels it is then.


Ight. I'll post in IC. Although just asking, how many boxes exactly for those amount?

Assuming it's 300 round (count) cans, about 2k cans.

Yes, the technical term is "cans"
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Praise our glorious leader Laura Ortiz!
Yea, I sell things. Lots of things. KTO Member!
Amistad Declaration signatory! Down with slavery!
[GNN] Check [hyperlink blocked] for further instructions or [frequency blocked]. /// Finland holds off Russian advance, Baltic sea turned into a "bathtub from hell". /// Strange signals from space, likely a dysfunctional probe /// New body armor rolling off the line, onto Gonswanzan soldiers /// Canada declares war against the US after a bloody coup. /// Japan deploys infantry to Korea, post-unification.

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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Left-Leaning College State

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:00 am

Map updated to include Vikanias.

Image
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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:39 pm

South Americanastan wrote:Map updated to include Vikanias.

(Image)

Ill message you about the reclamation war land grabs when they occur, though they will be small areas.

Unless Gonswanza is not canon to this map.
Praise our glorious leader Laura Ortiz!
Yea, I sell things. Lots of things. KTO Member!
Amistad Declaration signatory! Down with slavery!
[GNN] Check [hyperlink blocked] for further instructions or [frequency blocked]. /// Finland holds off Russian advance, Baltic sea turned into a "bathtub from hell". /// Strange signals from space, likely a dysfunctional probe /// New body armor rolling off the line, onto Gonswanzan soldiers /// Canada declares war against the US after a bloody coup. /// Japan deploys infantry to Korea, post-unification.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:54 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Map updated to include Vikanias.

(Image)

Ill message you about the reclamation war land grabs when they occur, though they will be small areas.

Unless Gonswanza is not canon to this map.

You have just been doing your own thing so I don’t know wether or not your cannon in the big connected world of the GI
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:56 pm

I find it extremely ironic of SM to “spread democracy” as their so called “democracy” only allows votes when it is in their favor. I would also like to point out the irony of a “democratic alliance” having colonies and the new bill for them basically ensures that any attempts at independence will be met by force
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Zarnicovia nova
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Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:58 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I find it extremely ironic of SM to “spread democracy” as their so called “democracy” only allows votes when it is in their favor. I would also like to point out the irony of a “democratic alliance” having colonies and the new bill for them basically ensures that any attempts at independence will be met by force

yep completely true.
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:08 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I find it extremely ironic of SM to “spread democracy” as their so called “democracy” only allows votes when it is in their favor. I would also like to point out the irony of a “democratic alliance” having colonies and the new bill for them basically ensures that any attempts at independence will be met by force


That is actually not entirely correct, as the ideas of being a democratic alliance that had colonies was not mine to begin with. Additionally, I really do not care if any bill goes in my favor or not. It's a system run by its members, so all members decide what happens. I'm just the original person who came up with the idea of GCN. The rest is just ideas from other members regardless if they founded the alliance or not. It's because of this very reason as to why GCN is democratic and yet has colonialism.
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South Americanastan
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Postby South Americanastan » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:11 pm

No matter how you slice it, GCN policy sounds like a repackaged version of “Freedom ain’t Free” lmao.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:15 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I find it extremely ironic of SM to “spread democracy” as their so called “democracy” only allows votes when it is in their favor. I would also like to point out the irony of a “democratic alliance” having colonies and the new bill for them basically ensures that any attempts at independence will be met by force


That is actually not entirely correct, as the ideas of being a democratic alliance that had colonies was not mine to begin with. Additionally, I really do not care if any bill goes in my favor or not. It's a system run by its members, so all members decide what happens. I'm just the original person who came up with the idea of GCN. The rest is just ideas from other members regardless if they founded the alliance or not.

You seem to be a main supporter of colonialism, is it so the GCN (and to that extension you) will have complete control over how everything is run. And as for “it’s a system run by its members” it might as well be called the Marajarbiaian Empire with many of the members being willing to go with whatever you want. There is very few if any nations that will go against your will. And while yes there is some competition it’s mostly dominated by the major powers in the alliance
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:20 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
That is actually not entirely correct, as the ideas of being a democratic alliance that had colonies was not mine to begin with. Additionally, I really do not care if any bill goes in my favor or not. It's a system run by its members, so all members decide what happens. I'm just the original person who came up with the idea of GCN. The rest is just ideas from other members regardless if they founded the alliance or not.

You seem to be a main supporter of colonialism, is it so the GCN (and to that extension you) will have complete control over how everything is run. And as for “it’s a system run by its members” it might as well be called the Marajarbiaian Empire with many of the members being willing to go with whatever you want. There is very few if any nations that will go against your will. And while yes there is some competition it’s mostly dominated by the major powers in the alliance


Eh, I'm actually just tired of the backlash from many NS friends who have complained about the anti-colonialism phase I went through last summer. I do support some colonialism, so long as it actually is mutually beneficial and not chaotic and genocidal. Second Galapagos War was what made me change my opinion to from anti to pro-colony.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:25 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:You seem to be a main supporter of colonialism, is it so the GCN (and to that extension you) will have complete control over how everything is run. And as for “it’s a system run by its members” it might as well be called the Marajarbiaian Empire with many of the members being willing to go with whatever you want. There is very few if any nations that will go against your will. And while yes there is some competition it’s mostly dominated by the major powers in the alliance


Eh, I'm actually just tired of the backlash from many NS friends who have complained about the anti-colonialism phase I went through last summer. I do support some colonialism, so long as it actually is mutually beneficial and not chaotic and genocidal. Second Galapagos War was what made me change my opinion to from anti to pro-colony.

So real quick you call the Galapagos Civil War not chaotic and genocidal? You call the colonization of the Galapagos mutually beneficial? Also the second Galapagos Civil war was sorta a result at your failed attempts at colonialism that led to the Galapagos electing facists that would lead to SO blockading us. Everything that has happened so far is because you had the boneheaded idea to attempt to make a tourist paradise
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:27 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Eh, I'm actually just tired of the backlash from many NS friends who have complained about the anti-colonialism phase I went through last summer. I do support some colonialism, so long as it actually is mutually beneficial and not chaotic and genocidal. Second Galapagos War was what made me change my opinion to from anti to pro-colony.

So real quick you call the Galapagos Civil War not chaotic and genocidal? You call the colonization of the Galapagos mutually beneficial? Also the second Galapagos Civil war was sorta a result at your failed attempts at colonialism that led to the Galapagos electing facists that would lead to SO blockading us. Everything that has happened so far is because you had the boneheaded idea to attempt to make a tourist paradise


No, Galapagos was a tourist paradise and semi-genocidal on both sides. It was your constant attacks on coalition forces that would make the occupation last 6 months instead of the intended week.
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GreatOceania
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Postby GreatOceania » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:28 pm

Ah man I remember that semi-genocide good times I might say for my troops
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Postby South Americanastan » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:30 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:So real quick you call the Galapagos Civil War not chaotic and genocidal? You call the colonization of the Galapagos mutually beneficial? Also the second Galapagos Civil war was sorta a result at your failed attempts at colonialism that led to the Galapagos electing facists that would lead to SO blockading us. Everything that has happened so far is because you had the boneheaded idea to attempt to make a tourist paradise


No, Galapagos was a tourist paradise and semi-genocidal on both sides. It was your constant attacks on coalition forces that would make the occupation last 6 months instead of the intended week.

Ah, yes, a “tourist paradise”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:31 pm

GreatOceania wrote:Ah man I remember that semi-genocide good times I might say for my troops


To be fair, I did have a good time for the first couple of months. I believe it was November when my life started to turn to sh*t, but I have gotten things in order since. Almost got Covid in the process.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:31 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:So real quick you call the Galapagos Civil War not chaotic and genocidal? You call the colonization of the Galapagos mutually beneficial? Also the second Galapagos Civil war was sorta a result at your failed attempts at colonialism that led to the Galapagos electing facists that would lead to SO blockading us. Everything that has happened so far is because you had the boneheaded idea to attempt to make a tourist paradise


No, Galapagos was a tourist paradise and semi-genocidal on both sides. It was your constant attacks on coalition forces that would make the occupation last 6 months instead of the intended week.

So we’re we supposed to just sit back and let you rape us in the ass for a week?
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:33 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
No, Galapagos was a tourist paradise and semi-genocidal on both sides. It was your constant attacks on coalition forces that would make the occupation last 6 months instead of the intended week.

So we’re we supposed to just sit back and let you rape us in the ass for a week?


It happened the first time and should have happened the second. Then again, II was kind of boring.
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