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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:28 am

South Olpen wrote:Wait buy hoe the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.


Exactly.
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:29 am

South Olpen wrote:Wait buy hoe the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.

In 1960's Cambridge British Students Spied on the Britain for the Soviet Union.
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Postby Janpia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:30 am

South Olpen wrote:Wait buy hoe the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.


2nd or 3rd generations of immigrants probably. Ive seen some of my countrymen who immigrated to US and stuff. And if you ask me, their culture, way of speaking, knowledge and all doesn't even look like one of ours now. They don't even know how to speak our language lol. They have been "americanized"

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:31 am

And you guys aren't little kids that I have to explain it to you that it has happened in real life multiple times and was very common during the Cold War. Why are you guys so nervous about such a small RP?
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:32 am

Speaking of which, I made my old imperial battleship. Its just a museum ship now. Out of 8 that was built, 2 survived, 1 is scrapped.

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Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:33 am

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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:34 am

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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:34 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Wait buy hoe the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.

In 1960's Cambridge British Students Spied on the Britain for the Soviet Union.

Okay, but the situations were different. From an article I read, they were already reds. I don't think any Marajarbian are of the let's-genocide-all-Marajarbians ideology. And Janpia, it's been a year since they came, there aren't any 3rd gens.
That said, you could probably send them back and unwittingly make them spies, if they were inittially national politicians by bugging them. But, they would eventually find out, and no national politicians moved.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:They could serve as a distraction.

Of course, in modern combat, that's what the French are for.


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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:36 am

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:37 am

South Olpen wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:In 1960's Cambridge British Students Spied on the Britain for the Soviet Union.

Okay, but the situations were different. From an article I read, they were already reds. I don't think any Marajarbian are of the let's-genocide-all-Marajarbians ideology. And Janpia, it's been a year since they came, there aren't any 3rd gens.
That said, you could probably send them back and unwittingly make them spies, if they were inittially national politicians by bugging them. But, they would eventually find out, and no national politicians moved.


SO is right. Sending immigrants back home to spy on their homeland while it is more than possible they are still loyal to their homeland does not make sense for the above reasons.
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:37 am

South Olpen wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:In 1960's Cambridge British Students Spied on the Britain for the Soviet Union.

Okay, but the situations were different. From an article I read, they were already reds. I don't think any Marajarbian are of the let's-genocide-all-Marajarbians ideology. And Janpia, it's been a year since they came, there aren't any 3rd gens.
That said, you could probably send them back and unwittingly make them spies, if they were inittially national politicians by bugging them. But, they would eventually find out, and no national politicians moved.

Galapagos didn't mobilise the whole immigrant community against SM he just sent some spies. And it's not hard to find guys who will work for the common goal and on a good payroll.
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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:38 am

Philby was also a communist. I'll edit this as I research more to back up my claims.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:They could serve as a distraction.

Of course, in modern combat, that's what the French are for.


American Legionaries wrote:Baseball fans are liars, bitching about politics is the real American pass time.

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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:39 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Okay, but the situations were different. From an article I read, they were already reds. I don't think any Marajarbian are of the let's-genocide-all-Marajarbians ideology. And Janpia, it's been a year since they came, there aren't any 3rd gens.
That said, you could probably send them back and unwittingly make them spies, if they were inittially national politicians by bugging them. But, they would eventually find out, and no national politicians moved.


SO is right. Sending immigrants back home to spy on their homeland while it is more than possible they are still loyal to their homeland does not make sense for the above reasons.


You are just being ignorant of all the facts that's it. Nothing more. Because somehow you always expects that good things happen to you in NS and all bad things should be voided or ignored. That's what you did with SA and his alliance.
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:40 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Okay, but the situations were different. From an article I read, they were already reds. I don't think any Marajarbian are of the let's-genocide-all-Marajarbians ideology. And Janpia, it's been a year since they came, there aren't any 3rd gens.
That said, you could probably send them back and unwittingly make them spies, if they were inittially national politicians by bugging them. But, they would eventually find out, and no national politicians moved.

Galapagos didn't mobilise the whole immigrant community against SM he just sent some spies. And it's not hard to find guys who will work for the common goal and on a good payroll.


He sent spies that were also immigrants. People who would refuse to spy on their own homeland. I’ve made more than one IC post detailing that they would be loyal to their country and its interests on this thread and Multiverse Affairs, so that would also be a little godmoddy on Galapagos’s part.
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Postby South Olpen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:40 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Okay, but the situations were different. From an article I read, they were already reds. I don't think any Marajarbian are of the let's-genocide-all-Marajarbians ideology. And Janpia, it's been a year since they came, there aren't any 3rd gens.
That said, you could probably send them back and unwittingly make them spies, if they were inittially national politicians by bugging them. But, they would eventually find out, and no national politicians moved.

Galapagos didn't mobilise the whole immigrant community against SM he just sent some spies. And it's not hard to find guys who will work for the common goal and on a good payroll.

Well, maybe 14 people could be found if they were famed fascists from SM but I assume the government filtered them out.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:They could serve as a distraction.

Of course, in modern combat, that's what the French are for.


American Legionaries wrote:Baseball fans are liars, bitching about politics is the real American pass time.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:41 am

South Olpen wrote:Wait how the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.

Second generation immigrants who have only lived in the Galapagos. Thus lowering their degree of loyalty to a country from which their parents abandoned
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:42 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Wait how the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.

Second generation immigrants who have only lived in the Galapagos. Thus lowering their degree of loyalty to a country from which their parents abandoned


They’ve only been there for ICly one year, though. Second generations wouldn’t have been born yet.
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Some NS stats are not canon. Nation represents some (not all) of my RL views

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Postby South Olpen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:43 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Wait how the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.

Second generation immigrants who have only lived in the Galapagos. Thus lowering their degree of loyalty to a country from which their parents abandoned

All second gen immigrants would be like, 5 (Including babies who immigrated at like 2). AT most, you could probably say that like, 13-16 year olds might not be loyal, but then they're still around 18.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:They could serve as a distraction.

Of course, in modern combat, that's what the French are for.


American Legionaries wrote:Baseball fans are liars, bitching about politics is the real American pass time.

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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:43 am

South Olpen wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:Galapagos didn't mobilise the whole immigrant community against SM he just sent some spies. And it's not hard to find guys who will work for the common goal and on a good payroll.

Well, maybe 14 people could be found if they were famed fascists from SM but I assume the government filtered them out.


Ok, according to SM he has a population of 11 billion which is power gaming and godmodding in itself and how can the find 14 guys be found so easily and early among the 11 billion population?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:45 am

South Olpen wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:Galapagos didn't mobilise the whole immigrant community against SM he just sent some spies. And it's not hard to find guys who will work for the common goal and on a good payroll.

Well, maybe 14 people could be found if they were famed fascists from SM but I assume the government filtered them out.


Yeah, plus fascists are banned in Marajarbia as a whole. There’s a Conservative party that isn’t popular because most RL conservatives nowadays are bordering authoritarianism, so “filtering them out” is possible, if it weren’t for the fact that I were mad at Galapagos for using my characters in this particular method.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:46 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Well, maybe 14 people could be found if they were famed fascists from SM but I assume the government filtered them out.


Ok, according to SM he has a population of 11 billion which is power gaming and godmodding in itself and how can the find 14 guys be found so easily and early among the 11 billion population?


11 billion? No, I have 16 million. I don’t recall ever saying it was that big, and if I did, it was likely a typo or two. I write a lot of posts on mobile.
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:48 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Well, maybe 14 people could be found if they were famed fascists from SM but I assume the government filtered them out.


Yeah, plus fascists are banned in Marajarbia as a whole. There’s a Conservative party that isn’t popular because most RL conservatives nowadays are bordering authoritarianism, so “filtering them out” is possible, if it weren’t for the fact that I were mad at Galapagos for using my characters in this particular method.


Lol, you got fascist Laka in GCN and then your people are against Fascism? That's completely non-sense and hypocritical. And none of your explanations are quite satisfactory. I'd suggest Galapagos to drop this RP because you don't RP in bad events.
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:49 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:
Ok, according to SM he has a population of 11 billion which is power gaming and godmodding in itself and how can the find 14 guys be found so easily and early among the 11 billion population?


11 billion? No, I have 16 million. I don’t recall ever saying it was that big, and if I did, it was likely a typo or two. I write a lot of posts on mobile.


Are you sure? Because I've got like multiple posts saying you have got 11 Billion Population and all SM of all universe got united and I'm not sure what does it even mean.
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Postby South Olpen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:51 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
South Olpen wrote:Well, maybe 14 people could be found if they were famed fascists from SM but I assume the government filtered them out.


Ok, according to SM he has a population of 11 billion which is power gaming and godmodding in itself and how can the find 14 guys be found so easily and early among the 11 billion population?

Well, I would assume that, statistically, no one tried to leave. Perhaps around 100,000 tried to make a new life, but that is easily searched. The US conducts immigration reviews of more than 47,00,000 a year, and this is a country of 16 million. They likely have the public infrastructure to search out at least that number. Doing math on population, they can do the immigration, now emigration, process for 2 million people.
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Male (he/him), American, liberal, represents a slightly exaggerated version of my views, we want mod transparency, greatest wishes to Greatest States of America.

The Blaatschapen wrote:They could serve as a distraction.

Of course, in modern combat, that's what the French are for.


American Legionaries wrote:Baseball fans are liars, bitching about politics is the real American pass time.

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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:52 am

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