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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:39 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Grande Germania wrote:Well, we will fight them on all fronts, Visegrad has a lunar colony, we can arm it if necessary


Don't you think ACI should stop with all of its wars? I mean, there's quite a few going on that I understand ACI is a participant in, but alliances typically don't multitask like that. Intervening in so many conflicts at the same time without careful preparation or an active enough community will cause some problems in the future.

long-term goals, friend, long-term goals, and besides, we don't necessarily have to start a war against them, I was just saying it to scare me, I might even forget about their existence.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:40 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:I believe ACI might want to check this out: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=515779

Yep I’ve seen it, we should probably splinter this after the reform
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Janpia
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Founded: Jul 20, 2021
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Postby Janpia » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:53 am

Grande Germania wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:I think that'd require some serious struggle on all fronts. Economy, Military, Cyberwarfare, Space and everything.

Well, we will fight them on all fronts, Visegrad has a lunar colony, we can arm it if necessary


Afaik, weaponization of space isn't allowed by international law. Unless yall decided to break that barrier. It will make you guys look more like the bad guys.

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

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- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
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Gonswanza
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Founded: Aug 13, 2021
Father Knows Best State

Postby Gonswanza » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:57 am

Janpia wrote:
Grande Germania wrote:Well, we will fight them on all fronts, Visegrad has a lunar colony, we can arm it if necessary


Afaik, weaponization of space isn't allowed by international law. Unless yall decided to break that barrier. It will make you guys look more like the bad guys.

I mean, IRL we kinda did that already by having killer satellites in orbit so... It's a pretty moot point, especially when it's impossible to enforce a treaty that is nothing more than a mild verbal agreement and some papers floating around somewhere.
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South Olpen
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Founded: Jan 23, 2021
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Postby South Olpen » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:25 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Afaik, weaponization of space isn't allowed by international law. Unless yall decided to break that barrier. It will make you guys look more like the bad guys.

I mean, IRL we kinda did that already by having killer satellites in orbit so... It's a pretty moot point, especially when it's impossible to enforce a treaty that is nothing more than a mild verbal agreement and some papers floating around somewhere.

All treaties are just verbal agreements and some papers, tbh.
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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:42 pm

South Olpen wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:I mean, IRL we kinda did that already by having killer satellites in orbit so... It's a pretty moot point, especially when it's impossible to enforce a treaty that is nothing more than a mild verbal agreement and some papers floating around somewhere.

All treaties are just verbal agreements and some papers, tbh.

Unlike the Geneva Convention or nuclear arms treaties (ergo SALT) the Outer Space Treaty literally is quite moot, though it's respected simply to allow for space programs to exist without the risk of igniting a global war over peaceful missions getting blasted out of orbit.

Then there's the lunar treaty which furthers this to the moon, as it's agreed upon formally that the moon is for everyone, it cannot be owned by anyone and it cannot be used for weapons or war.
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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:51 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
South Olpen wrote:All treaties are just verbal agreements and some papers, tbh.

Unlike the Geneva Convention or nuclear arms treaties (ergo SALT) the Outer Space Treaty literally is quite moot, though it's respected simply to allow for space programs to exist without the risk of igniting a global war over peaceful missions getting blasted out of orbit.

Then there's the lunar treaty which furthers this to the moon, as it's agreed upon formally that the moon is for everyone, it cannot be owned by anyone and it cannot be used for weapons or war.

I don't think I'm willing to leave my colony on the moon
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IC my state is Called Union of the Empire of Visegrad, or Visegrad, OOC Grande Germania or whatever you like

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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:53 pm

Grande Germania wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Unlike the Geneva Convention or nuclear arms treaties (ergo SALT) the Outer Space Treaty literally is quite moot, though it's respected simply to allow for space programs to exist without the risk of igniting a global war over peaceful missions getting blasted out of orbit.

Then there's the lunar treaty which furthers this to the moon, as it's agreed upon formally that the moon is for everyone, it cannot be owned by anyone and it cannot be used for weapons or war.

I don't think I'm willing to leave my colony on the moon

Tbh it just means you can own colonies on the moon, but you can't just set up a fence around it and say all the land within said fence is yours.

However, the colony can be granted autonomy at any time if they so desire, without a bloody struggle.
Praise our glorious leader Laura Ortiz!
Yea, I sell things. Lots of things. KTO Member!
Amistad Declaration signatory! Down with slavery!
[GNN] Check [hyperlink blocked] for further instructions or [frequency blocked]. /// Finland holds off Russian advance, Baltic sea turned into a "bathtub from hell". /// Strange signals from space, likely a dysfunctional probe /// New body armor rolling off the line, onto Gonswanzan soldiers /// Canada declares war against the US after a bloody coup. /// Japan deploys infantry to Korea, post-unification.

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Grande Germania
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Postby Grande Germania » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:56 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Grande Germania wrote:I don't think I'm willing to leave my colony on the moon

Tbh it just means you can own colonies on the moon, but you can't just set up a fence around it and say all the land within said fence is yours.

However, the colony can be granted autonomy at any time if they so desire, without a bloody struggle.

For now it's just astronauts and miners, as the colony is used for mining and research, I should increase the staff now that I think about it
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IC my state is Called Union of the Empire of Visegrad, or Visegrad, OOC Grande Germania or whatever you like

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:15 pm

Founder of the KTO
Destroyer of the GCN

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Janpia
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Founded: Jul 20, 2021
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Postby Janpia » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:24 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I got bored
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Ye lol. Accurate

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Greatest States Of America
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Founded: Nov 10, 2020
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:40 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Afaik, weaponization of space isn't allowed by international law. Unless yall decided to break that barrier. It will make you guys look more like the bad guys.

I mean, IRL we kinda did that already by having killer satellites in orbit so... It's a pretty moot point, especially when it's impossible to enforce a treaty that is nothing more than a mild verbal agreement and some papers floating around somewhere.


As far as I know or everyone who doesn't work in US Space Force or CIA knows that there are no killer satellites in space or any Space Weapons of any kind in Space. Although, the United States and the Soviet Union competed against each other to develop and deploy such weapons they didn't succeed due to cost overruns, immaturity of the technology, and unsureness about whether such a weapon would even work. Not to mention sending things out in space from the earth are really expensive. Things like that are only in Star Trek or Star Wars which don't have any kind of affiliation of any kind with realism. Although, ASAT weapons are possible which again risk spreading debris of the destroyed material in orbit. And the Moon treaty isn't ratified by any of the major powers United States, Russia (former Soviet Union), People's Republic of China) since its creation on December 18, 1979, and thus it has little to no relevancy in international law.
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:44 am

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:37 am

Galapagos, you know there is absolutely no way possible for 14 men to spy on my government like Janpia did on yours? It would be really easy to tell that they are spies, too. These 14 men would act different and potentially even look different from the average Marajarbian. A majority of Marajarbian citizens are Indians and Chinese, too. The overall point is that spying won’t work.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:52 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Galapagos, you know there is absolutely no way possible for 14 men to spy on my government like Janpia did on yours? It would be really easy to tell that they are spies, too. These 14 men would act different and potentially even look different from the average Marajarbian. A majority of Marajarbian citizens are Indians and Chinese, too. The overall point is that spying won’t work.

See here’s the thing they are Marajarbian immigrants
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:54 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Galapagos, you know there is absolutely no way possible for 14 men to spy on my government like Janpia did on yours? It would be really easy to tell that they are spies, too. These 14 men would act different and potentially even look different from the average Marajarbian. A majority of Marajarbian citizens are Indians and Chinese, too. The overall point is that spying won’t work.

See here’s the thing they are Marajarbian immigrants

:clap:
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:57 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Galapagos, you know there is absolutely no way possible for 14 men to spy on my government like Janpia did on yours? It would be really easy to tell that they are spies, too. These 14 men would act different and potentially even look different from the average Marajarbian. A majority of Marajarbian citizens are Indians and Chinese, too. The overall point is that spying won’t work.

See here’s the thing they are Marajarbian immigrants


Well that extremely backfires to SM lol

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
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-LDO

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:12 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Galapagos, you know there is absolutely no way possible for 14 men to spy on my government like Janpia did on yours? It would be really easy to tell that they are spies, too. These 14 men would act different and potentially even look different from the average Marajarbian. A majority of Marajarbian citizens are Indians and Chinese, too. The overall point is that spying won’t work.

See here’s the thing they are Marajarbian immigrants


You know you can’t control my characters, right?
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:18 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:See here’s the thing they are Marajarbian immigrants


You know you can’t control my characters, right?

It was your decision to move them to my country thus making them my characters. Maybe if you weren’t so intent on turning the Galapagos to a second SM then maybe it wouldn’t have backfired
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:21 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You know you can’t control my characters, right?

It was your decision to move them to my country thus making them my characters. Maybe if you weren’t so intent on turning the Galapagos to a second SM then maybe it wouldn’t have backfired


Yeah, no. They are my characters still. I might as well will just void them being Marajarbians or that you sent spies to GCN nations, because, if you can’t remember, you have been crushed twice in the past by multiple armies for doing things like this.
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:21 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:See here’s the thing they are Marajarbian immigrants


You know you can’t control my characters, right?


Can you actually explain how're they your characters?
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:22 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You know you can’t control my characters, right?


Can actually explain how're they your characters?


Are they Marajarbians? Yes. What more do you need?
Just a regular old II Superpower nation, and large scale trading empire that likes to have fun! You (the reader) can find me all over II nowadays, so I suggest having a chat.

Some NS stats are not canon. Nation represents some (not all) of my RL views

Join I&II (An NS news thread open to everybody and anybody) here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=525784

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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:22 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:It was your decision to move them to my country thus making them my characters. Maybe if you weren’t so intent on turning the Galapagos to a second SM then maybe it wouldn’t have backfired


Yeah, no. They are my characters still. I might as well will just void them being Marajarbians or that you sent spies to GCN nations, because, if you can’t remember, you have been crushed twice in the past by multiple armies for doing things like this.


You can't just void everything that you don't like or are afraid of. It simply describes anyone who do these things as shit roleplayers.
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:23 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:
Can actually explain how're they your characters?


Are they Marajarbians? Yes. What more do you need?


This isn't an explanation. I'm the USA and there are many Americans in other countries in NS not all of them are my characters and neither do I control them this isn't an explanation actually.
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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:27 am

Wait how the hell are you getting immigrants to spy on their home country? They lived there, they would still have a certain degree of loyalty.
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