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The Black Sun Rises Over Thalberg [IC|CLOSED]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:44 pm

Large-scale industry and banks in the "red" part of the country were nationalized.
The Soviet Republic compensates for the losses of the former owners by confiscating the property of the Nazis and obtaining Russian loans.

Russian Burgundy and the new soviet republic are establishing friendly relations.

The Russian press celebrates the victory of peace and progress.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:46 pm

The democratic-authoritarian side, for its part, is liberalizing the economy, strengthening the police and the army, and creating labor camps, has excellent relations with Czechoslovakia.

The Czechoslovakian Press celebrates the power of the Czechoslovak army and the great economic progress that the Thalberg Authoritarian Democracy is experiencing.
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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:52 pm

creating labor camps


Let the constitution prohibit purges against the Burgundists and the Authoritarian Democrats!
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:54 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:
creating labor camps


Let the constitution prohibit purges against the Burgundists and the Authoritarian Democrats!

Don't worry, they are only for criminals.
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Postby Thalberg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:56 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:Large-scale industry and banks in the "red" part of the country were nationalized.
The Soviet Republic compensates for the losses of the former owners by confiscating the property of the Nazis and obtaining Russian loans.

Russian Burgundy and the new soviet republic are establishing friendly relations.

Grande Germania wrote:The democratic-authoritarian side, for its part, is liberalizing the economy, strengthening the police and the army, and creating labor camps, has excellent relations with Czechoslovakia.

The Czechoslovakian Press celebrates the power of the Czechoslovak army and the great economic progress that the Thalberg Authoritarian Democracy is experiencing.


Thalbergian media, on both sides but predominately the Thalbergische Post, are celebrating the end of the war and their "liberation" by both sides. The 2021 "Friendship Parade" was held, ending with soldiers from both sides crossing the established borders and engaging in formal interactions with each other. The Hauptstadt Memorial in the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg was constructed and placed in the center of the city days after the end of the war.

Let the constitution prohibit purges against the Burgundians and the Authoritarian Democrats!

An amendment to the treaty now disallows labour camps to be built in Thalbergian land, but maximum-security prisons are allowed to be built as long as atrocities are kept at a minimum. Only War criminals may be deported to Czechoslovakia to be sent to labour camps. Political purges have been outlawed, stating that they "violate not only the Treaty of Hauptstadt, but also several war crime laws." These amendments hopefully establish a more peaceful post-war Thalberg.
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    •Federal Republic abolished, the Soviet Republic of Thalberg and the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg established.
    •War criminals imprisoned in maximum security prisons and/or deported to Czechoslovakia.
    •Former President Vidar Blomquist found dead in German apartment, officials say.
    •Rebuilding efforts begin in the country.



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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:00 pm

Thalberg wrote:
Burgundy Russia wrote:Large-scale industry and banks in the "red" part of the country were nationalized.
The Soviet Republic compensates for the losses of the former owners by confiscating the property of the Nazis and obtaining Russian loans.

Russian Burgundy and the new soviet republic are establishing friendly relations.



Thalbergian media, on both sides but predominately the Thalbergische Post, are celebrating the end of the war and their "liberation" by both sides. The 2021 "Friendship Parade" was held, ending with soldiers from both sides crossing the established borders and engaging in formal interactions with each other. The Hauptstadt Memorial in the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg was constructed and placed in the center of the city days after the end of the war.


An amendment to the treaty now disallows labour camps to be built in Thalbergian land, but maximum-security prisons are allowed to be built as long as atrocities are kept at a minimum. Political purges have been outlawed, stating that they "violate not only the Treaty of Hauptstadt, but also several war crime laws." These amendments hopefully establish a more peaceful post-war Thalberg.

I call them work camps because at least you get the inmates to do something useful, instead of making them sit still all day, but they are more than maximum security prisons.
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Postby Thalberg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:02 pm

Grande Germania wrote:
Thalberg wrote:An amendment to the treaty now disallows labour camps to be built in Thalbergian land, but maximum-security prisons are allowed to be built as long as atrocities are kept at a minimum. Political purges have been outlawed, stating that they "violate not only the Treaty of Hauptstadt, but also several war crime laws." These amendments hopefully establish a more peaceful post-war Thalberg.

I call them work camps because at least you get the inmates to do something useful, instead of making them sit still all day, but they are more than maximum security prisons.


War criminals are now allowed to be deported to work camps in Czechoslovakia following a lengthy debate in Ozeanstadt.
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    •Federal Republic abolished, the Soviet Republic of Thalberg and the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg established.
    •War criminals imprisoned in maximum security prisons and/or deported to Czechoslovakia.
    •Former President Vidar Blomquist found dead in German apartment, officials say.
    •Rebuilding efforts begin in the country.



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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:04 pm

I agree, ordinary criminals should work for their country.
I am only worried about the fate of political ones.

The criminals convicted by the Soviet court should work in the Soviet camps.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:05 pm

Thalberg wrote:
Grande Germania wrote:I call them work camps because at least you get the inmates to do something useful, instead of making them sit still all day, but they are more than maximum security prisons.


War criminals are now allowed to be deported to work camps in Czechoslovakia following a lengthy debate in Ozeanstadt.


Czechoslovakia thanks and asks to add that both states will have to have a common citizenship, so as not to mess up the bureaucracy.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:07 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:I agree, ordinary criminals should work for their country.
I am only worried about the fate of political ones.

It depends on the severity, the Nazis will end up in Czechoslovakian labor camps, like the anarchists.
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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:09 pm

Oh, OK.
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Postby Thalberg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:14 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:I agree, ordinary criminals should work for their country.
I am only worried about the fate of political ones.

The criminals convicted by the Soviet court should work in the Soviet camps.


Agreed.

Political prisoners are to be held under house arrest for an unspecified amount of time. Security will ensure their safety.
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    •Federal Republic abolished, the Soviet Republic of Thalberg and the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg established.
    •War criminals imprisoned in maximum security prisons and/or deported to Czechoslovakia.
    •Former President Vidar Blomquist found dead in German apartment, officials say.
    •Rebuilding efforts begin in the country.



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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:19 pm

Let the political ones have the opportunity to leave for their part of the country.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:21 pm

What do we do for the capital?
In which area will it be located?
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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:23 pm

Let each of the parts of the country have its own capital.
Actions can be coordinated through diplomatic channels of communication.
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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:25 pm

Let the old capital decide its own fate in a referendum.

It is possible to divide it.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:26 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:Let each of the parts of the country have its own capital.
Actions can be coordinated through diplomatic channels of communication.

I completely agree with you, so both sides of the country will have their own autonomous governing bodies? what does union matter? (outside the constitution)
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:28 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:Let the old capital decide its own fate in a referendum.

It is possible to divide it.


What if instead we turned it into a kind of neutral zone, therefore managed by both sides of the country?
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Postby Burgundy Russia » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:30 pm

:D
Grande Germania wrote:
Burgundy Russia wrote:Let each of the parts of the country have its own capital.
Actions can be coordinated through diplomatic channels of communication.

I completely agree with you, so both sides of the country will have their own autonomous governing bodies? what does union matter? (outside the constitution)


None of these republics can enter a war or a military bloc without a sister's consent.

2. That country survives as a country. Maybe they will be able to restore the unity
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Postby Thalberg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:31 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote:Let the political ones have the opportunity to leave for their part of the country.


Okay.
What do we do for the capital?
In which area will it be located?

The capital for the "red" area will be Carrsonndålig, while AD Thalberg's will be Westenstadt.
Carrsonndålig is in the far-east, while Westenstadt is in the northwest region.

What if instead we turned it into a kind of neutral zone, therefore managed by both sides of the country?

Agreed.

OOC: I'm thinking that we should continue this whole post-war thing tomorrow on another thread, as I think it'll be easier to comprehend the story if you had a thread entirely dedicated to those events. You guys don't need to apply for that one because you've already participated in this one.

I'm going to head off for the night (it's 12:26 A.M. here, lol). See you guys tomorrow, hopefully!
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    •Federal Republic abolished, the Soviet Republic of Thalberg and the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg established.
    •War criminals imprisoned in maximum security prisons and/or deported to Czechoslovakia.
    •Former President Vidar Blomquist found dead in German apartment, officials say.
    •Rebuilding efforts begin in the country.



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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:31 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote::D
Grande Germania wrote:I completely agree with you, so both sides of the country will have their own autonomous governing bodies? what does union matter? (outside the constitution)


None of these republics can enter a war or a military bloc without a sister's consent.

ok, thanks for the clarification.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:31 pm

Burgundy Russia wrote::D
Grande Germania wrote:I completely agree with you, so both sides of the country will have their own autonomous governing bodies? what does union matter? (outside the constitution)


None of these republics can enter a war or a military bloc without a sister's consent.

Sorry I repeated the post by mistake.
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Postby Grande Germania » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:34 pm

Thalberg wrote:
Burgundy Russia wrote:Let the political ones have the opportunity to leave for their part of the country.


Okay.
What do we do for the capital?
In which area will it be located?

The capital for the "red" area will be Carrsonndålig, while AD Thalberg's will be Westenstadt.
Carrsonndålig is in the far-east, while Westenstadt is in the northwest region.

What if instead we turned it into a kind of neutral zone, therefore managed by both sides of the country?

Agreed.

OOC: I'm thinking that we should continue this whole post-war thing tomorrow on another thread, as I think it'll be easier to comprehend the story if you had a thread entirely dedicated to those events. You guys don't need to apply for that one because you've already participated in this one.

I'm going to head off for the night (it's 12:26 A.M. here, lol). See you guys tomorrow, hopefully!


Goodbye! Send me a telegram with the link for the new thread !.
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Postby Thalberg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:35 pm

Grande Germania wrote:
Thalberg wrote:
Okay.

The capital for the "red" area will be Carrsonndålig, while AD Thalberg's will be Westenstadt.
Carrsonndålig is in the far-east, while Westenstadt is in the northwest region.


Agreed.

OOC: I'm thinking that we should continue this whole post-war thing tomorrow on another thread, as I think it'll be easier to comprehend the story if you had a thread entirely dedicated to those events. You guys don't need to apply for that one because you've already participated in this one.

I'm going to head off for the night (it's 12:26 A.M. here, lol). See you guys tomorrow, hopefully!


Goodbye! Send me a telegram with the link for the new thread !.


Okay. :)
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    •Federal Republic abolished, the Soviet Republic of Thalberg and the Authoritarian Democracy of Thalberg established.
    •War criminals imprisoned in maximum security prisons and/or deported to Czechoslovakia.
    •Former President Vidar Blomquist found dead in German apartment, officials say.
    •Rebuilding efforts begin in the country.



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