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The King Isle wrote:

The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:Nytoa begins to send satellite recon and spy planes taking photos of kingmen military bases all equipped with flares orbital strikes then take down the military base and/or bunkers or send the photos to other people helping the rebels

Some of the spy planes are shot down by guards

The Democratic Republic of Nytoa wrote:

The King Isle wrote:Some of the spy planes are shot down by guards

what about the orbital recon and the orbital strikes?

Ukcross wrote:Ukcrossian Soldiers, Vehicles, Weapons and Supplies are Loaded onto Transport Ships, and Set Sail, With a Large Naval Convoy. The Ukcrossian Ships Arrive Relatively Quickly. Ukcrossian Equipment, Soldiers, Vehicles and Supplies are Loaded off The Ships, and a Basecamp is Quickly Constructed, With Tents, and Defenses Hastily Set up.

Rackim wrote:6000 Soldiers in boats and cars start to invade The King Isle with more military soldiers on the way. Coming in hot with planes, the Rackim soldiers have a long way to go. The now 8000+ soldiers have set up a base(s) and stay there for a while.

The King Isle wrote:

Ukcross wrote:Ukcrossian Soldiers, Vehicles, Weapons and Supplies are Loaded onto Transport Ships, and Set Sail, With a Large Naval Convoy. The Ukcrossian Ships Arrive Relatively Quickly. Ukcrossian Equipment, Soldiers, Vehicles and Supplies are Loaded off The Ships, and a Basecamp is Quickly Constructed, With Tents, and Defenses Hastily Set up.

The Kingmen Army seeing the camps immediately raid the camps and all the Ukcrossian soliders that are caught are executed by Firing squad

South Americanastan wrote:I’ve been lurking again, and since clearly most of you guys have never read it, and you really need it, here:

Some Brief Remarks on Roleplay Etiquette and Decorum wrote:Handling Disputes Over IC Details

Roleplayers will not always see eye-to-eye, even when they are fully committed to working together. Every RPer approaches an RP thread from his or her unique individual perspective (which personal experiences tend to shape in a very big way), so it is very important that every RPer participating in that thread have an understanding of and an appreciation for the perspectives of the others to keep the RP thread healthy. This means that RPers who enter a thread should be transparently candid about the RP goals they want to achieve through their participation and entertain a willingness to discuss and settle on some OOC rules they can agree to honor over the course of their participation.

In practice, this means that NS RPers who want to join an IC thread need to acquaint themselves with the thread’s details and recognize and honor the basic RP goals specified by the IC thread’s host(s). As in a real-life social gathering, it is incumbent on the host to spell out the sort of details that the “guests” need to know. Such details can include e limits on the number of participants who should be allowed to enter, the thread’s desired genre and story format, the time period in which the story is to be set, the sort of “magic system” that is canon for that particular thread, and whether the IC thread’s story is supposed to be driven by its characters, IC events, or both. I have witnessed numerous cases in which RPers hosting IC threads fail to specify the social and canonical boundaries they want other participants to respect, only to end up scrambling to make new rules as they go along in response to OOC disputes that arise after the threads are well underway.

One of the best things RPers can do to avoid disputes over IC details is to discuss details that can materially impact the direction of a story’s plot before setting those details in stone. For instance, I might want to RP a duel between one of my characters and a character controlled by another RPer. I assume that both characters agreed to dueling terms that allow them to wear armor, while the other RPer assumes that both will be fighting unarmored, and we both make several RP posts before I mention that the other player’s character failed to wound my character because my character is wearing armor. The other player might post, “Hey, wait a minute. You didn’t say the duelists could wear armor in this thread. I was under the impression they were both going to fight unarmored.” In this scenario, both of us would be at fault for failing to bring up the subject during the planning phase of the RP and getting this matter hammered out before finding ourselves with a dozen posts to discuss and then retroactively edit.

I have seen many RP threads crash and burn through OOC disputes resulting from RPers making RP decisions based on differing assumptions they did not disclose to the other RPers in those threads. History has shown that clear, consistent, and civil communication is an excellent preventive measure, as is a willingness to “stop and ask for directions” whenever an RPer is trying to take a thread in a direction you do not fully understand. There is also much value in inviting a disinterested third party to mediate disagreements (in fact, the ability to mediate is one thing Mentors look for when recruiting new Mentors).

Willingness to Lose

Most RPers tend to dislike seeing their nations and characters lose at things because the logical consequences of defeat tend to curtail the range of things they can do with their settings and characters in-universe. This is especially true anytime your NS nation gets destroyed by a war, plague, depression, or natural disaster, since these sorts of things tend to leave nations in poor shape for throwing their weight around in-universe for a long span of time. The same basic principle applies to cases in which you lose a major character or institution or concept in which you have invested significant amounts of time and creative effort.

Losing can often come with major in-character downsides, but a willingness to lose can also gain you a number of OOC benefits. As Krieg’s Guide to Losing explains in greater detail, a willingness to lose demonstrates good sportsmanship and will therefore earn you respect as an RPer. It will also help you keep your ego from getting sucked into an obsession with winning at all costs. Losing can enable you to explore a number of new RPing options that you would not have any reasons to explore if your nations, characters, etc. consistently won at everything. For example, a story about a defeated nation rebuilding and rearming can be just as fun to write (and as fun for your audience to read) as a story about a nation achieving glorious triumphs on the battlefield.

You are, of course, free to do whatever you like with your NS nations when you get into a losing conflict. Nevertheless, retconning your way out of a loss is regarded as the “easy way out” for a reason—it is equally possible for you to get your NS nation out of a bind the hard way by RPing its recovery, even if that means retiring old, established characters and having to create a new generation of characters to carry your nation’s story forward. From a creative perspective, it is a more fulfilling way to address an IC loss because it gives you a way to incorporate it into your canon. From a sportsmanship perspective, it shows that you are willing to honor all the time that others spent building a shared IC history with you through RPing with them.

Avoiding Godmoding and Powergaming

There are many different practices that tend to detrimentally affect RP threads and thereby discourage other RPers from wanting to roleplay with you. In addition to bad habits like provoking other players and failing to distinguish OOC stuff from IC stuff, there are other forms of roleplay behavior that will often cause other RPers a great deal of annoyance. These forms of unsportsmanlike behavior include godmoding and powergaming, both of which you ought to avoid.

Godmoding, a practice in which RPers try to give their stuff unfair advantages, typically comes in five main forms: saying what happens to another RPer’s stuff, declaring your own stuff invincible, refusing to accept any losses without cause, metagaming on purpose, and using selective retcons to undo events (especially losses) that you and your RP partners agreed to accept. These practices are known as godmoding because they perform the same function as “god mode” cheat codes in video games. If you want to read about godmoding in further detail, Euroslavia’s comprehensive treatise on godmoding is your best friend.

While godmoding is consider bad form because explicitly violates NS RP rules, powergaming is considered bad form even though it does not technically violate anything except the RP community’s standards of decency. Powergaming is the practice of RPing with other RPers in a way designed to guarantee the others will always lose. One major example is using an established nation account to RP the conquest of nations belonging to new players who RP with NS stats (thus putting them at an inherent disadvantage) and then claiming to own hundreds of “colonies” when going up against another established RPer. While powergaming is not technically illegal, it is tasteless, immature, and petty enough to constitute a form of bad RP etiquette and should therefore be avoided.

South Americanastan wrote:

South Americanastan wrote:I’ve been lurking again, and since clearly most of you guys have never read it, and you really need it, here:

Bumping since clearly TKI hasn’t read it

Calamastan wrote:

South Americanastan wrote:Bumping since clearly TKI hasn’t read it

OOC: you aren't welcome in this thread

Ukcross wrote:OOC: This is Bull. TKI Said He Wiped out 15,000 Soldiers, in a defended Camp. I'm leaving. TKI Needs to Quit Godmodding.

Kingmen China wrote:1000 well trained Kingmen Chinese troops arrive to fend of the Rebels. The soldiers immediately set up camp and will fight till the last drop of blood. The Kingmen Chinese government declared that they will back the motherland. So far a couple of Rebels have been arrested

Vikanias wrote:

Kingmen China wrote:1000 well trained Kingmen Chinese troops arrive to fend of the Rebels. The soldiers immediately set up camp and will fight till the last drop of blood. The Kingmen Chinese government declared that they will back the motherland. So far a couple of Rebels have been arrested

Ah another puppet to keep TKI alive as he kills off his thread for breaking his own goddamn rules.

Calamastan wrote:

Vikanias wrote:
Ah another puppet to keep TKI alive as he kills off his thread for breaking his own goddamn rules.

You aren't welcome in this thread

The King Isle wrote:Bump

The King Isle wrote:The Kingmen Army have successfully taken back canton after a massive gun fight with the Rebels.
All rebel leaders caught will be executed

Tyrantio Land wrote:

The King Isle wrote:The Kingmen Army have successfully taken back canton after a massive gun fight with the Rebels.
All rebel leaders caught will be executed

Godmodding. Read the Guide to Godmodding before posts, please.

Calamastan wrote:10,000 Calamastani Troops enter the King Isle and Immediately attack rebel bases and crack down on the Rebels by using torture and execution