The Multiverse Affairs OOC

[Meretica]

Now that, that is good political drama.

Now that... that is DEEP

[South Olpen]

Now that, that is good political drama.

Now that... that is DEEP

I know right! It is so good I’m sweating with excitement and real worry over what I should do with Sorit.

[Meretica]

Now that... that is DEEP

I know right! It is so good I’m sweating with excitement and real worry over what I should do with Sorit.

Well like... I felt my heart drop down to my stomach... and I was like... "HOLY SHIT, ARE WE BOTH EVIL NOW?" And then I was like... "HOLY COW, ARE WE ENEMIES NOW?"

And now I'm like... "Time for a new book lol"

[Global Alliance-Military]

The "recognized alliance" part, I assumed, consisted of alliances that you wanted to join you. An "unrecognized alliance" part makes a lot more sense because the vast majority of alliances are ones you don't consider canon.

I reread the RMB, and yeah, I should probably try and improve my attitude and hold inside my outbursts. I won't go any further than that.

Finally, it's bold of you to assume that the GA won't do anything. A slow start doesn't mean I'm trying to stagnate the alliance intentionally, or that I will stagnate its growth any longer. If anything, we should be asking ourselves if the UF is actually going to do anything. We may have a serious UF member shortage at hand, and I really hope we do.

By my count, 3 (Eurum, myself, and TKI) nations have either officially or unofficially left the GA, and many others have privately told me they lack confidence in the GA's ability to get anything done. (Out of respect for those people, I will not name them; it is up to them whether or not they wish to be involved in that conversation.) The GA died before it was even created. There is no interest nor excitement anymore. While you may not have intended for there to be stagnation, you nonetheless created it.

With the UF, however, several nations have expressed private interest in joining should the GA, as expected by many, fail. One nation, South Olpen, has already joined, and I have full confidence that number will grow with time.

Ironically, I'd feel the same way with the GA. If I was a random person, I'd lack confidence in the GA's ability to get anything done. Now, it's up to SM and myself to prove basically everybody wrong, which is more than possible.

What I don't get is why several nations would state their lack of confidence in the GA privately, or state that they wish to join the UF privately. Therefore, everybody who has expressed interest should send a telegram to Global Alliance-Military to prove it. I won't be surprised if I get one or two responses, exaggeration is very common and I don't see why several people would go to Meretica to express their disapproval.

[South Olpen]

I know right! It is so good I’m sweating with excitement and real worry over what I should do with Sorit.

Well like... I felt my heart drop down to my stomach... and I was like... "HOLY SHIT, ARE WE BOTH EVIL NOW?" And then I was like... "HOLY COW, ARE WE ENEMIES NOW?"

And now I'm like... "Time for a new book lol"

I, personally, wouldn’t write a new book IC. Cheapens the emotional drama we’re building. IRL, though, that could be a bestseller.

[Meretica]

By my count, 3 (Eurum, myself, and TKI) nations have either officially or unofficially left the GA, and many others have privately told me they lack confidence in the GA's ability to get anything done. (Out of respect for those people, I will not name them; it is up to them whether or not they wish to be involved in that conversation.) The GA died before it was even created. There is no interest nor excitement anymore. While you may not have intended for there to be stagnation, you nonetheless created it.

With the UF, however, several nations have expressed private interest in joining should the GA, as expected by many, fail. One nation, South Olpen, has already joined, and I have full confidence that number will grow with time.

Ironically, I'd feel the same way with the GA. If I was a random person, I'd lack confidence in the GA's ability to get anything done. Now, it's up to SM and myself to prove basically everybody wrong, which is more than possible.

What I don't get is why several nations would state their lack of confidence in the GA privately, or state that they wish to join the UF privately. Therefore, everybody who has expressed interest should send a telegram to Global Alliance-Military to prove it. I won't be surprised if I get one or two responses, exaggeration is very common and I don't see why several people would go to Meretica to express their disapproval.

A number of people came to me during the NWO crisis. If they chose to go to you, that's up to them. You can't make them do it.

[Meretica]

Well like... I felt my heart drop down to my stomach... and I was like... "HOLY SHIT, ARE WE BOTH EVIL NOW?" And then I was like... "HOLY COW, ARE WE ENEMIES NOW?"

And now I'm like... "Time for a new book lol"

I, personally, wouldn’t write a new book IC. Cheapens the emotional drama we’re building. IRL, though, that could be a bestseller.

I'll do you one better. Are you familiar with AuthorTube?

[Global Alliance-Military]

Ironically, I'd feel the same way with the GA. If I was a random person, I'd lack confidence in the GA's ability to get anything done. Now, it's up to SM and myself to prove basically everybody wrong, which is more than possible.

What I don't get is why several nations would state their lack of confidence in the GA privately, or state that they wish to join the UF privately. Therefore, everybody who has expressed interest should send a telegram to Global Alliance-Military to prove it. I won't be surprised if I get one or two responses, exaggeration is very common and I don't see why several people would go to Meretica to express their disapproval.

A number of people came to me during the NWO crisis. If they chose to go to you, that's up to them. You can't make them do it.

The NWO crisis occurred during the UCA era, at a time when the idea of the GA didn't even exist.

I do think you're telling the truth but that you're also exaggerating. If I don't receive responses in a few days, I'll assume you're lying. You may not be, but there's no evidence to prove it.

[Meretica]

A number of people came to me during the NWO crisis. If they chose to go to you, that's up to them. You can't make them do it.

The NWO crisis occurred during the UCA era, at a time when the idea of the GA didn't even exist.

I do think you're telling the truth but that you're also exaggerating. If I don't receive responses in a few days, I'll assume you're lying. You may not be, but there's no evidence to prove it.

...by your argument, there's no evidence to disprove it, meaning that you can't prove I'm lying either.

Edit: Also, the fact that the GA concept was not created during the UCA era is irrelevant to the issue at hand. It was mentioned as a prior example of a similar event taking place.

[Global Alliance-Military]

The NWO crisis occurred during the UCA era, at a time when the idea of the GA didn't even exist.

I do think you're telling the truth but that you're also exaggerating. If I don't receive responses in a few days, I'll assume you're lying. You may not be, but there's no evidence to prove it.

...by your argument, there's no evidence to disprove it, meaning that you can't prove I'm lying either.

Are you unintentionally admitting it?

Or are you just trying to create an unresolvable problem? You also keep forcing me to discuss what I'm doing if nobody responds, which I find unlikely but have to discuss nonetheless.

I could ask the mods to check your TGs for NWO-era people in the unlikely event that nobody responds since this problem will branch into even more problems.

EDIT: Oh, so you're saying that a similar concept would also be ineffective? I'm probably wrong, because it would make your edit irrelevant as well.

[Meretica]

...by your argument, there's no evidence to disprove it, meaning that you can't prove I'm lying either.

Are you unintentionally admitting it?

Or are you just trying to create an unresolvable problem? You also keep forcing me to discuss what I'm doing if nobody responds, which I find unlikely but have to discuss nonetheless.

I could ask the mods to check your TGs for NWO-era people in the unlikely event that nobody responds since this problem will branch into even more problems.

I'm not admitting that I'm lying because I'm not lying. I'm using the logic you are currently using to show how unlogical your statement was.

I don't believe that you can request that mods go through other people's TGs; that seems like a violation of rules, but I'd have to check to be sure. I'm not trying to create an unresolvable problem, either. When the GA fails (trust me, it's a when issue here), the blame will largely rest on your shoulders. Unless you'd like to blame me, of course. I believe the phrase you used in the RMB is something along the lines of "this will result in the end of the GA" after I announced my withdrawal and opposition to the continuation of the GA.

[South Olpen]

I, personally, wouldn’t write a new book IC. Cheapens the emotional drama we’re building. IRL, though, that could be a bestseller.

I'll do you one better. Are you familiar with AuthorTube?

No, looked it up but I didn’t understand why we’re speaking of it.

[Meretica]

I'll do you one better. Are you familiar with AuthorTube?

No, looked it up but I didn’t understand why we’re speaking of it.

I essentially did that, added in a conspiracy theory twist, and used it to make a Hornwright post XD

[Global Alliance-Military]

Are you unintentionally admitting it?

Or are you just trying to create an unresolvable problem? You also keep forcing me to discuss what I'm doing if nobody responds, which I find unlikely but have to discuss nonetheless.

I could ask the mods to check your TGs for NWO-era people in the unlikely event that nobody responds since this problem will branch into even more problems.

I'm not admitting that I'm lying because I'm not lying. I'm using the logic you are currently using to show how unlogical your statement was.

I don't believe that you can request that mods go through other people's TGs; that seems like a violation of rules, but I'd have to check to be sure. I'm not trying to create an unresolvable problem, either. When the GA fails (trust me, it's a when issue here), the blame will largely rest on your shoulders. Unless you'd like to blame me, of course. I believe the phrase you used in the RMB is something along the lines of "this will result in the end of the GA" after I announced my withdrawal and opposition to the continuation of the GA.

On second thought, it might be. Mods can go through TGs for serious rule violations, but I don't think they can go through them for things like these. And, let me be honest here, that's why I said I don't have confidence in the GA's abilities, not because it hasn't done anything but because you chose to leave. I actually believed that the GA would fall as a result of your exit, but it's your new attitude that killed that belief. I now think that the GA has a chance of survival, and I'll have to help it survive.

[Meretica]

I'm not admitting that I'm lying because I'm not lying. I'm using the logic you are currently using to show how unlogical your statement was.

I don't believe that you can request that mods go through other people's TGs; that seems like a violation of rules, but I'd have to check to be sure. I'm not trying to create an unresolvable problem, either. When the GA fails (trust me, it's a when issue here), the blame will largely rest on your shoulders. Unless you'd like to blame me, of course. I believe the phrase you used in the RMB is something along the lines of "this will result in the end of the GA" after I announced my withdrawal and opposition to the continuation of the GA.

On second thought, it might be. Mods can go through TGs for serious rule violations, but I don't think they can go through them for things like these. And, let me be honest here, that's why I said I don't have confidence in the GA's abilities, not because it hasn't done anything but because you chose to leave. I actually believed that the GA would fall as a result of your exit, but it's your new attitude that killed that belief. I now think that the GA has a chance of survival, and I'll have to help it survive.

You seem to be implying that your sour attitude, hateful comments, and constant RMB insults aren't enough to advise players to stay away from the GA.

[Global Alliance-Military]

On second thought, it might be. Mods can go through TGs for serious rule violations, but I don't think they can go through them for things like these. And, let me be honest here, that's why I said I don't have confidence in the GA's abilities, not because it hasn't done anything but because you chose to leave. I actually believed that the GA would fall as a result of your exit, but it's your new attitude that killed that belief. I now think that the GA has a chance of survival, and I'll have to help it survive.

You seem to be implying that your sour attitude, hateful comments, and constant RMB insults aren't enough to advise players to stay away from the GA.

It isn't enough. It depends on how you handle things afterward, and another main goal is to prove to GA players I'm not as thoughtless as I was 2 weeks ago. Change works, unless human nature kicks in and people use their knowledge of your old self more than your current self.

So far, that change hasn't happened because of this incident you don't seem keen on ending.

I honestly thought this was a relatively chill discussion until that post. My current posting style is probably my main posting style if you felt like you needed to continue this, and there's no rude intention from most of my posts.

[Meretica]

You seem to be implying that your sour attitude, hateful comments, and constant RMB insults aren't enough to advise players to stay away from the GA.

It isn't enough. It depends on how you handle things afterward, and another main goal is to prove to GA players I'm not as thoughtless as I was 2 weeks ago. Change works, unless human nature kicks in and people use their knowledge of your old self more than your current self.

So far, that change hasn't happened because of this incident you don't seem keen on ending.

I honestly thought this was a relatively chill discussion until that post. My current posting style is probably my main posting style if you felt like you needed to continue this, and there's no rude intention from most of my posts.

The way you treated both myself and SM in the RMB seems to counter this. You would do fine for a few posts and then explode if we dared to mention how long it had been taking. We both offered more than once to create the threads and handle the IC issues. But you continued to say that it was your alliance, and that you would handle it. That doesn't seem to me like a member-led alliance. If the GA was truly a member-led alliance, you would have taken advice from both SM and myself (alliance leaders and thread makers) and consistently acknowledged points we both provided with decent rebuttals. Instead, we ended up waiting 5 weeks and still have had no word from mods following a mess-up of your own making after you didn't follow the advice given by SM and me. If SM and I agree on something, that ought to be the first sign that there is something that ought to really happen.

[South Olpen]

Aughly childish to ban me from the GA no? Anyhow, my new post is no where close to the first one, nothing ever will, but I think it still serves its purpose.

[Global Alliance-Military]

Aughly childish to ban me from the GA no? Anyhow, my new post is no where close to the first one, nothing ever will, but I think it still serves its purpose.

It's called a warning shot.

Except, there's no follow-up after the warning if you do violate it.

[Meretica]

Aughly childish to ban me from the GA no? Anyhow, my new post is no where close to the first one, nothing ever will, but I think it still serves its purpose.

It's called a warning shot.

Except, there's no follow-up after the warning if you do violate it.

...it makes no sense to ban a nation and then immediately un-ban them.

[Global Alliance-Military]

It isn't enough. It depends on how you handle things afterward, and another main goal is to prove to GA players I'm not as thoughtless as I was 2 weeks ago. Change works, unless human nature kicks in and people use their knowledge of your old self more than your current self.

So far, that change hasn't happened because of this incident you don't seem keen on ending.

I honestly thought this was a relatively chill discussion until that post. My current posting style is probably my main posting style if you felt like you needed to continue this, and there's no rude intention from most of my posts.

The way you treated both myself and SM in the RMB seems to counter this. You would do fine for a few posts and then explode if we dared to mention how long it had been taking. We both offered more than once to create the threads and handle the IC issues. But you continued to say that it was your alliance, and that you would handle it. That doesn't seem to me like a member-led alliance. If the GA was truly a member-led alliance, you would have taken advice from both SM and myself (alliance leaders and thread makers) and consistently acknowledged points we both provided with decent rebuttals. Instead, we ended up waiting 5 weeks and still have had no word from mods following a mess-up of your own making after you didn't follow the advice given by SM and me. If SM and I agree on something, that ought to be the first sign that there is something that ought to really happen.

Most of this is made up or untrue. The "explosion" was not an explosion, but a post in my typical posting style that caused the incident due to the last part, which, granted, was voided and shouldn't have been. However, the exaggeration continues again. You waited 1 WEEK for the mods to respond, which is bad enough, but the exaggeration is completely incorrect. In addition, I stated that OOCly I was the region's founder and thread OP and that I could (maybe) prevent somebody from tagging the thread, which is not stating that this is "my alliance", and that "I would handle it". The advice given by SM and yourself was given a few days ago, not 5 weeks as you're implying. You offered once to create the threads, not more than once.

Instead of having me lose my respect for you and making things up, maybe you should actually do some RMB checking.

[Global Alliance-Military]

It's called a warning shot.

Except, there's no follow-up after the warning if you do violate it.

...it makes no sense to ban a nation and then immediately un-ban them.

Yeah... it doesn't.

I enjoy doing it anyway on any region whenever somebody leaves us. It originally reminded them that we still existed and could ban them from the region, but now it's more of a habit.

[South Olpen]

...it makes no sense to ban a nation and then immediately un-ban them.

Yeah... it doesn't.

I enjoy doing it anyway on any region whenever somebody leaves us. It originally reminded them that we still existed and could ban them from the region, but now it's more of a habit.

So it’s about power and controlling them? That seems...... Azula-ish

[Gonswanza]

>Seal letter from 1499

... What even... What? Is this meant to be some part of some weird seal ARG I'm not aware of? The hell? This is way too far out of left field, even for me.

Im not complaining. Im just confused to all hell.

[South Olpen]

Speaking of a 14 ninety something, I had an idea for an offshoot of the main canon. It would basically.be a set of RPs set in 1923, 10 years before Hitler came to power. I think it would be fun to be totally different nations. Maybe the 1920s are too early and they would change how your nation is today, but still.