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Deblar
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Postby Deblar » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:58 pm

Any international businesses interested in leasing tenant space in my skyscraper?

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Global Alliance-Military
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Founded: Sep 21, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:59 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:
Why do you keep coming up with false anti-GA stuff? As far as I'm concerned things between GA and NATO are a bit shaky, but are nowhere near war. Besides, for the GA to actually go to war, we need an act that a simple majority needs to pass, and we haven't even voted on anything yet.

In addition, both GA co-founders are also members with NATO.

It's mainly my fault, but also partially the faults of you, Meretica, and Vikanias, in the sense that the GA hasn't really been established as an alliance yet, and you guys chose to start a massive conflict 1-2 days into its founding.

I think it's best for me to just make it so the GA never existed until 5-10 minutes from now when I create the threads, because the GA was unable to do anything to begin with. Among other things, it would mean that the Galapagos would be a UCA protectorate until 5-10 minutes from now, then be changed into a transitional GA protectorate until we hold the votes on stuff, but I think it would be realistic since UCA actually had a military before it joined the GA, and therefore could be an actual GLA enemy.

I kinda thought you were one of the people screwing me over


I mean, I guess we did, since before we even existed, we accepted turning you into a protectorate without thinking of the consequences or at least holding a vote.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:59 pm

Global Alliance-Military wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I almost dragged NATO and the GA into a war because NATO didn’t realize they were supporting terrorists


Why do you keep coming up with false anti-GA stuff? As far as I'm concerned things between GA and NATO are a bit shaky, but are nowhere near war. Besides, for the GA to actually go to war, we need an act that a simple majority needs to pass, and we haven't even voted on anything yet.

In addition, both GA co-founders are also members with NATO.

It's mainly my fault, but also partially the faults of you, Meretica, and Vikanias, in the sense that the GA hasn't really been established as an alliance yet, and you guys chose to start a massive conflict 1-2 days into its founding.

I think it's best for me to just make it so the GA never existed until 5-10 minutes from now when I create the threads, because the GA was unable to do anything to begin with. Among other things, it would mean that the Galapagos would be a UCA protectorate until 5-10 minutes from now, then be changed into a transitional GA protectorate until we hold the votes on stuff, but I think it would be realistic since UCA actually had a military before it joined the GA, and therefore could be an actual GLA enemy.

EDIT: Basically, the GA was never involved in any conflicts that occurred before the Wuscoegroan Invasion, which hasn't happened yet.


I guess, so that means that the handover will happen the minute the threads are posted, right?
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:03 pm

Deblar wrote:Any international businesses interested in leasing tenant space in my skyscraper?


I am. I will write a post about that later, though.
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Global Alliance-GA
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Founded: Oct 16, 2021
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Postby Global Alliance-GA » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:08 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:
Why do you keep coming up with false anti-GA stuff? As far as I'm concerned things between GA and NATO are a bit shaky, but are nowhere near war. Besides, for the GA to actually go to war, we need an act that a simple majority needs to pass, and we haven't even voted on anything yet.

In addition, both GA co-founders are also members with NATO.

It's mainly my fault, but also partially the faults of you, Meretica, and Vikanias, in the sense that the GA hasn't really been established as an alliance yet, and you guys chose to start a massive conflict 1-2 days into its founding.

I think it's best for me to just make it so the GA never existed until 5-10 minutes from now when I create the threads, because the GA was unable to do anything to begin with. Among other things, it would mean that the Galapagos would be a UCA protectorate until 5-10 minutes from now, then be changed into a transitional GA protectorate until we hold the votes on stuff, but I think it would be realistic since UCA actually had a military before it joined the GA, and therefore could be an actual GLA enemy.

EDIT: Basically, the GA was never involved in any conflicts that occurred before the Wuscoegroan Invasion, which hasn't happened yet.


I guess, so that means that the handover will happen the minute the threads are posted, right?


They could happen now, if you want.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:09 pm

Global Alliance-GA wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
I guess, so that means that the handover will happen the minute the threads are posted, right?


They could happen now, if you want.


Sure. I’ll write a post there saying something about diplomatic negotiations and how the handover is now official, and you can reply to it in TMA. How does that sound?
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:09 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Global Alliance-GA wrote:
They could happen now, if you want.


Sure. I’ll write a post there saying something about diplomatic negotiations and how the handover is now official, and you can reply to it in TMA. How does that sound?

Then what was the point of the election
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:11 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Sure. I’ll write a post there saying something about diplomatic negotiations and how the handover is now official, and you can reply to it in TMA. How does that sound?

Then what was the point of the election


You need an autonomous Parliamentary system, no? That’s the whole point of GA in regards to colonies and protectorates, giving them independence slowly with autonomy given first.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:12 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Then what was the point of the election


You need an autonomous Parliamentary system, no? That’s the whole point of GA in regards to colonies and protectorates, giving them independence slowly with autonomy given first.

I’m sure this won’t backfire horribly and lead to another civil war in the Galapagos due to the fact that the people (and me) have a burning desire to see the GA fall under nuclear ash
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Deblar
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Deblar » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:13 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You need an autonomous Parliamentary system, no? That’s the whole point of GA in regards to colonies and protectorates, giving them independence slowly with autonomy given first.

I’m sure this won’t backfire horribly and lead to another civil war in the Galapagos due to the fact that the people (and me) have a burning desire to see the GA fall under nuclear ash

Goodness, this reeks of Afghanistan.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:15 pm

Deblar wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I’m sure this won’t backfire horribly and lead to another civil war in the Galapagos due to the fact that the people (and me) have a burning desire to see the GA fall under nuclear ash

Goodness, this reeks of Afghanistan.

Definitely and the GLF is America
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Global Alliance-GA
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Founded: Oct 16, 2021
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Postby Global Alliance-GA » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:16 pm

Deblar wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I’m sure this won’t backfire horribly and lead to another civil war in the Galapagos due to the fact that the people (and me) have a burning desire to see the GA fall under nuclear ash

Goodness, this reeks of Afghanistan.


We can always metagame, you know...

The difference, though, is that if something bad does happen, we won't deny it and return to restore order, and then keep 5000 troops to help maintain order. That or we can just keep 5000 troops to help maintain order immediately.

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Definitely and the GLF is America


Yeah, that was pretty obvious to begin with.

FYI, the GPF is a general term referring to UDAF, UCA, and, now, the GA, as well as everybody else that has previously participated in the Galapagos conflict against the independent government of Galapagos.
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Gonswanza
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Founded: Aug 13, 2021
Father Knows Best State

Postby Gonswanza » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:18 pm

Deblar wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I’m sure this won’t backfire horribly and lead to another civil war in the Galapagos due to the fact that the people (and me) have a burning desire to see the GA fall under nuclear ash

Goodness, this reeks of Afghanistan.

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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:25 pm

Meretica, why does your signature still have "Member of GA" in it?

Also, are your telegrams open for use?

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Meretica
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Postby Meretica » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:25 pm

Global Alliance-Military wrote:Meretica, why does your signature still have "Member of GA" in it?

Also, are your telegrams open for use?

Because in the past 24 hours I've served 500 lbs of chicken and haven't had the time to update it, and yes.
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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:26 pm

Meretica wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:Meretica, why does your signature still have "Member of GA" in it?

Also, are your telegrams open for use?

Because in the past 24 hours I've served 500 lbs of chicken and haven't had the time to update it, and yes.


I see.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:45 pm

The Late Occupation of the Galapagos: Oversimplified
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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:46 pm

Galapagos, need your public approval or rejection of this.

All of the urban areas and a large part of the rural areas hate us [GA], while another large part of the rural areas supports us [GA].


EDIT: Looks like you posted. Not bad luck.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:02 pm

Global Alliance-Military wrote:Galapagos, need your public approval or rejection of this.

All of the urban areas and a large part of the rural areas hate us [GA], while another large part of the rural areas supports us [GA].


EDIT: Looks like you posted. Not bad luck.

Honestly I don’t think anybody likes you except for the small groups of immigrants and after the handover of the Galapagos to the GA your last supporters turned to moderates
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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:12 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:Galapagos, need your public approval or rejection of this.

All of the urban areas and a large part of the rural areas hate us [GA], while another large part of the rural areas supports us [GA].


EDIT: Looks like you posted. Not bad luck.

Honestly I don’t think anybody likes you except for the small groups of immigrants and after the handover of the Galapagos to the GA your last supporters turned to moderates


Part of the GA's founding promises was to help improve the income and quality of life of rural communities, and since we have a large amount of members, I'm sure at least some people in rural communities would recognize our promises as realistic and support us. They are just promises, but we intend to fulfill them.

Also, the handover of the Galapagos to the GA just happened officially, though unofficially it won't happen until after your elections. I don't see how a handover turns supporters into moderates.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:13 pm

Global Alliance-Military wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Honestly I don’t think anybody likes you except for the small groups of immigrants and after the handover of the Galapagos to the GA your last supporters turned to moderates


Part of the GA's founding promises was to help improve the income and quality of life of rural communities, and since we have a large amount of members, I'm sure at least some people in rural communities would recognize our promises as realistic and support us. They are just promises, but we intend to fulfill them.

Also, the handover of the Galapagos to the GA just happened officially, though unofficially it won't happen until after your elections. I don't see how a handover turns supporters into moderates.


Actually, technically the elections just ended due to both the LibComs and Liberal Capitalists agreeing on combining their votes into one, which means victory.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:16 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:
Part of the GA's founding promises was to help improve the income and quality of life of rural communities, and since we have a large amount of members, I'm sure at least some people in rural communities would recognize our promises as realistic and support us. They are just promises, but we intend to fulfill them.

Also, the handover of the Galapagos to the GA just happened officially, though unofficially it won't happen until after your elections. I don't see how a handover turns supporters into moderates.


Actually, technically the elections just ended due to both the LibComs and Liberal Capitalists agreeing on combining their votes into one, which means victory.

Dangit I even committed electoral fraud
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Global Alliance-Military
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:19 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Global Alliance-Military wrote:
Part of the GA's founding promises was to help improve the income and quality of life of rural communities, and since we have a large amount of members, I'm sure at least some people in rural communities would recognize our promises as realistic and support us. They are just promises, but we intend to fulfill them.

Also, the handover of the Galapagos to the GA just happened officially, though unofficially it won't happen until after your elections. I don't see how a handover turns supporters into moderates.


Actually, technically the elections just ended due to both the LibComs and Liberal Capitalists agreeing on combining their votes into one, which means victory.


We do have to consider how we're going to handle the Galapagos. Maybe a combination of economic subsidization (especially in employment), regular tax cuts, security funding, and discouragement (but no ban) of increasing the population via childbirth. If inflation becomes a problem, destruction of some money that lands in GA hands might be necessary to fight it.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:23 pm

Global Alliance-Military wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Actually, technically the elections just ended due to both the LibComs and Liberal Capitalists agreeing on combining their votes into one, which means victory.


We do have to consider how we're going to handle the Galapagos. Maybe a combination of economic subsidization (especially in employment), regular tax cuts, security funding, and discouragement (but no ban) of increasing the population via childbirth. If inflation becomes a problem, destruction of some money that lands in GA hands might be necessary to fight it.


That can be handled via telegrams OOCly, and the Provisional Council ICly.
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Postby Global Alliance-Military » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:16 pm

OOC: OOC relations between Meretica and myself have broken down, really badly. It appears to be that Meretica is interested in encouraging members to leave the GA and to break all ties with East Stal Saillnerce and, OOCly, the user behind them.

I encourage all of you to not heed to Meretica's demands.

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