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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:32 am

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Well, theres no vote or resolution passed tho

Yea but you guys formed your own coalition to screw over the Galapagos with your own puppet government

Yea no. We aint standing a government there unless the Galapagosian citizens themselves wants it.

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

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Free Metropolitan France
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Ex-Nation

Postby Free Metropolitan France » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:38 am

Janpia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Yea but you guys formed your own coalition to screw over the Galapagos with your own puppet government

Yea no. We aint standing a government there unless the Galapagosian citizens themselves wants it.

My comrade is right.
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Meretica
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:48 am

Just a quick reminder-- there are Meretican troops in the Galapagos, belonging to the Free States. The Empire withdrew all troops a while back.
News: King Michael Dragonheart II declares war with Thira "officially over" following the capture of enemy General Arceus || President Edwards announces that "the Senate has finalized plans for redistricting" and "will hold full elections in May" || Royal Advisory Board maintains that it is important to allow the Heads of Noble Houses to attend meetings and have information due to "millennia of tradition" || Preparations for Belecthoria's 3089th birthday underway

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Deblar
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Deblar » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:49 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:I'm really concerned with Galapagos becoming ‘‘Mango Republic’’ ‘‘Apple Republic’’ and ‘‘Fruit Republic’’.

Seems kinda fruity no?

Hahahahaha-

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Meretica
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:51 am

Free Metropolitan France wrote:
Janpia wrote:Yea no. We aint standing a government there unless the Galapagosian citizens themselves wants it.

My comrade is right.

The only government that the Galapagos wants is fascism, and that's a no-no atm... unless we're just going to sit down and let fascism prosper? We've already got enough fascist threats lurking about.
News: King Michael Dragonheart II declares war with Thira "officially over" following the capture of enemy General Arceus || President Edwards announces that "the Senate has finalized plans for redistricting" and "will hold full elections in May" || Royal Advisory Board maintains that it is important to allow the Heads of Noble Houses to attend meetings and have information due to "millennia of tradition" || Preparations for Belecthoria's 3089th birthday underway

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Janpia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Janpia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:53 am

Meretica wrote:
Free Metropolitan France wrote:My comrade is right.

The only government that the Galapagos wants is fascism, and that's a no-no atm... unless we're just going to sit down and let fascism prosper? We've already got enough fascist threats lurking about.


Im stating for the Galapagos people themselves. Not every Galapasogian is a GLA. Some are just needing refuge or rightful representation

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
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-LDO

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Meretica
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:59 am

Janpia wrote:
Meretica wrote:The only government that the Galapagos wants is fascism, and that's a no-no atm... unless we're just going to sit down and let fascism prosper? We've already got enough fascist threats lurking about.


Im stating for the Galapagos people themselves. Not every Galapasogian is a GLA. Some are just needing refuge or rightful representation

Not all of them, no, but there are enough to constitute a majority in any government you'd set up, unless it was so badly gerrymandered that you were attempting to keep fascists out of office. If you make fascist parties illegal or remove certain pols with fascist tendencies from the cess pool, it just gets worse because that adds strength to the GLA. Had the people cooperated way back in 2032, this would've been over already. Now it's Afghanistan.
News: King Michael Dragonheart II declares war with Thira "officially over" following the capture of enemy General Arceus || President Edwards announces that "the Senate has finalized plans for redistricting" and "will hold full elections in May" || Royal Advisory Board maintains that it is important to allow the Heads of Noble Houses to attend meetings and have information due to "millennia of tradition" || Preparations for Belecthoria's 3089th birthday underway

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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:02 am

Meretica wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Im stating for the Galapagos people themselves. Not every Galapasogian is a GLA. Some are just needing refuge or rightful representation

Not all of them, no, but there are enough to constitute a majority in any government you'd set up, unless it was so badly gerrymandered that you were attempting to keep fascists out of office. If you make fascist parties illegal or remove certain pols with fascist tendencies from the cess pool, it just gets worse because that adds strength to the GLA. Had the people cooperated way back in 2032, this would've been over already. Now it's Afghanistan.


Dude, we ain't even planning on making a government. Its just IF the Galapasogian people want. They can ask for a referendum to do so.

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
- Spends majority of my time trying to fix my grammar at factbooks or future posts.
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Meretica
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Founded: Nov 16, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:04 am

Janpia wrote:
Meretica wrote:Not all of them, no, but there are enough to constitute a majority in any government you'd set up, unless it was so badly gerrymandered that you were attempting to keep fascists out of office. If you make fascist parties illegal or remove certain pols with fascist tendencies from the cess pool, it just gets worse because that adds strength to the GLA. Had the people cooperated way back in 2032, this would've been over already. Now it's Afghanistan.


Dude, we ain't even planning on making a government. Its just IF the Galapasogian people want. They can ask for a referendum to do so.


These are still the facts of the matter, whether those were your plans or not
News: King Michael Dragonheart II declares war with Thira "officially over" following the capture of enemy General Arceus || President Edwards announces that "the Senate has finalized plans for redistricting" and "will hold full elections in May" || Royal Advisory Board maintains that it is important to allow the Heads of Noble Houses to attend meetings and have information due to "millennia of tradition" || Preparations for Belecthoria's 3089th birthday underway

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New Provenance
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Founded: Jan 09, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Provenance » Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:55 am

Just noting that Atlantica will slowly pull out of Multiverse forum RPs as I transition over to RP as the Union-State of Russian Republics on my alt account (the Atlantica concept didn't really work out for me), and that I'll finish all my business with everyone before fully transferring over and leaving Atlantica as it is.

Cheers everyone!

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:57 am

New Provenance wrote:Just noting that Atlantica will slowly pull out of Multiverse forum RPs as I transition over to RP as the Union-State of Russian Republics on my alt account (the Atlantica concept didn't really work out for me), and that I'll finish all my business with everyone before fully transferring over and leaving Atlantica as it is.

Cheers everyone!


You should not do that. Not only do we not need another RL nation, but it’s better to RP on a familiar account compared to a brand new one.
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The King Isle
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Founded: Jun 21, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby The King Isle » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:07 am

New Provenance wrote:Just noting that Atlantica will slowly pull out of Multiverse forum RPs as I transition over to RP as the Union-State of Russian Republics on my alt account (the Atlantica concept didn't really work out for me), and that I'll finish all my business with everyone before fully transferring over and leaving Atlantica as it is.

Cheers everyone!

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Meretica
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Postby Meretica » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:31 am

I'd like to know why NATO is actively taking actions to spark a war because though I do not want one, that is the only thing I can see coming out of this.
News: King Michael Dragonheart II declares war with Thira "officially over" following the capture of enemy General Arceus || President Edwards announces that "the Senate has finalized plans for redistricting" and "will hold full elections in May" || Royal Advisory Board maintains that it is important to allow the Heads of Noble Houses to attend meetings and have information due to "millennia of tradition" || Preparations for Belecthoria's 3089th birthday underway

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Greatest States Of America
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Greatest States Of America » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:35 am

Meretica wrote:I'd like to know why NATO is actively taking actions to spark a war because though I do not want one, that is the only thing I can see coming out of this.

I don't see anything that screams WAR.
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:38 am

I have said from the start that we don't want war and never will. Since when did Peacekeeping is considered an act of war?
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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:55 am

Im starting to get burnt out on this, though I did retract all support due to the GLA showing that they are more than willing to drag everyone into a free-for-all, rather than keeping their offensive actions against the occupying party.

Though I also don't get how socialism in an economy that is in freefall and threatening to break the government is a stable solution in the long-run, even with moves being made internally by non-state actors to ensure that it fails no matter what.

Or maybe my brain's just too toasted to understand the connection here.
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Greatest States Of America
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Postby Greatest States Of America » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:57 am

Gonswanza wrote:Im starting to get burnt out on this, though I did retract all support due to the GLA showing that they are more than willing to drag everyone into a free-for-all, rather than keeping their offensive actions against the occupying party.

Though I also don't get how socialism in an economy that is in freefall and threatening to break the government is a stable solution in the long-run, even with moves being made internally by non-state actors to ensure that it fails no matter what.

Or maybe my brain's just too toasted to understand the connection here.


Your brain isn't toasted you are being realistic. I too wonder the same thing as you.
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Meretica
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Meretica » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:09 pm

We're not introducing full-blown socialism; SM is working to create decent jobs with decent wages in a bad economic situation. Though I'd prefer that a different economic plan was used, this is what we have to work with.

Also, the Peacekeepers aren't needed, and sending them will likely worsen tensions with the GLA. That has full potential to start a war. Am I the only one thinking about this??
News: King Michael Dragonheart II declares war with Thira "officially over" following the capture of enemy General Arceus || President Edwards announces that "the Senate has finalized plans for redistricting" and "will hold full elections in May" || Royal Advisory Board maintains that it is important to allow the Heads of Noble Houses to attend meetings and have information due to "millennia of tradition" || Preparations for Belecthoria's 3089th birthday underway

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Antonder
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Founded: Jun 03, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Antonder » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:14 pm

Anyone want diplomatic ties?
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:14 pm

Meretica wrote:We're not introducing full-blown socialism; SM is working to create decent jobs with decent wages in a bad economic situation. Though I'd prefer that a different economic plan was used, this is what we have to work with.

Also, the Peacekeepers aren't needed, and sending them will likely worsen tensions with the GLA. That has full potential to start a war. Am I the only one thinking about this??


You aren’t the only one. GreatOceania is pretty much sending troops doing a lot of aggressive actions at this point in the Galapagos, and that not only makes NATO look bad, but also makes sending “peacekeepers” (which is obviously not their intention in the first place) seem pointless.
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Antonder
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Postby Antonder » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:15 pm

Antonder wrote:Anyone want diplomatic ties?

Anyone?
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Deblar
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Deblar » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:18 pm

Socialism? SM has gotta be one of the most capitalistic nations in this whole roleplay
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:19 pm

Deblar wrote:Socialism? SM has gotta be one of the most capitalistic nations in this whole roleplay


Democratic Socialism. I was a Bernie supporter before switching to Biden, you know.
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The Dragonheart Order
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Founded: Oct 23, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby The Dragonheart Order » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:21 pm

Also, sorry about the Emperor confusion, I didn't see the snip.
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Antonder
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Postby Antonder » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:23 pm

The Dragonheart Order wrote:Also, sorry about the Emperor confusion, I didn't see the snip.

Lmao
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