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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:17 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:Even as if to the belief of some people that there is a Cold War alike scenario between both sides that is highly debatable and doubtable. And even if there is a Cold War it won't turn hot. Sure proxy wars can happen but direct confrontation would be out.


The Galapagos Insurgent War is technically a Proxy War, don’t you think? This is solely because of Vikanias and Oceania assisting the fascist GLA in ousting the democratically elected coalition forces.
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Postby Gonswanza » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:37 am

Greatest States Of America wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Oh well now that's just disappointing.

I guess I can just bide my time until Vikanias nukes someone (again). Or something. More likely it's going to be the former.

Vikanias cannot do it again. It would be a violation of multiple international treaties. Vikanias would calculate its options carefully I believe and even if they do that we won't support it cause nuking someone ruins RP and force the country that is affected to adopt extreme measures. Like we saw there are two Meretica's If I'm not wrong correct me If I'm. Don't get offended it's just an opinion!!

Not offended, just surprised. Alas, here I am just sitting by given the proxy conflicts dont offer a reason for me to join, while I have Gonswanza in its own world hunkering down and training troops in dire conditions to try to prepare them for a dark future.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:40 am

EN, in response to your recent post (which I think has some godmodding due to France already existing yet being very inactive), it’s not ICly my Government that has the forced labor policy, but rather Gov. Andrews. While Gov. Andrews is meant to represent the Marajarbian Government, he’s a ruthless military leader who will do absolutely anything to deal with terrorists.
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:42 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:EN, in response to your recent post (which I think has some godmodding due to France already existing yet being very inactive), it’s not ICly my Government that has the forced labor policy, but rather Gov. Andrews. While Gov. Andrews is meant to represent the Marajarbian Government, he’s a ruthless military leader who will do absolutely anything to deal with terrorists.

I have a different France in my European pact so it's not godmodding, also couldn't your government step in then?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:43 am

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:EN, in response to your recent post (which I think has some godmodding due to France already existing yet being very inactive), it’s not ICly my Government that has the forced labor policy, but rather Gov. Andrews. While Gov. Andrews is meant to represent the Marajarbian Government, he’s a ruthless military leader who will do absolutely anything to deal with terrorists.

I have a different France in my European pact, also couldn't your government step in then?


They could, but remember that the coronation RP isn’t over yet. This means that a majority of government officials are participating in that.
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:46 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:I have a different France in my European pact, also couldn't your government step in then?


They could, but remember that the coronation RP isn’t over yet. This means that a majority of government officials are participating in that.

I'll keep the Marajarbia part in till the forced labour ends, as the person forcing it is still supposedly representing you IC. Anyways, how is the coronation roleplay going? I might send someone.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:48 am

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
They could, but remember that the coronation RP isn’t over yet. This means that a majority of government officials are participating in that.

I'll keep the Marajarbia part in till the forced labour ends, as the person forcing it is still supposedly representing you IC. Anyways, how is the coronation roleplay going? I might send someone.


The coronation RP is good, it’s currently the second day and coronation day IC, in which I have yet to write a post due to myself being on mobile as well as being busy with some OOC off-site stuff.
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:51 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:I'll keep the Marajarbia part in till the forced labour ends, as the person forcing it is still supposedly representing you IC. Anyways, how is the coronation roleplay going? I might send someone.


The coronation RP is good, it’s currently the second day and coronation day IC, in which I have yet to write a post due to myself being on mobile as well as being busy with some OOC off-site stuff.

Alright, I may apply later, sounds like it may be interesting.

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Scezonia
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Postby Scezonia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:08 am

I love how even tho SO started this and is doing what the Governor orders troops to do, we’re not getting any blame.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 am

Scezonia wrote:I love how even tho SO started this and is doing what the Governor orders troops to do, we’re not getting any blame.


Well, that is mostly due to little military actions on your part, SO.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:53 pm

I seriously wonder how anybody would want to visit the Galapagos, saying how the population is extremely hostile, GLA troops take any chance they get to murder tourists, ships and hotels are bombed daily, riots happen multiple times a hour, obvious human rights violations from both sides, and I could go on and on. It’s like those people who visit North Korea, but at least North Korea is slightly stable
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:07 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Greatest States Of America wrote:Even as if to the belief of some people that there is a Cold War alike scenario between both sides that is highly debatable and doubtable. And even if there is a Cold War it won't turn hot. Sure proxy wars can happen but direct confrontation would be out.


The Galapagos Insurgent War is technically a Proxy War, don’t you think? This is solely because of Vikanias and Oceania assisting the fascist GLA in ousting the democratically elected coalition forces.

Your so called “democratically elected” government is about as democratic as the PRC
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Vikanias
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Postby Vikanias » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pm

Greatest States Of America wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Oh well now that's just disappointing.

I guess I can just bide my time until Vikanias nukes someone (again). Or something. More likely it's going to be the former.

Vikanias cannot do it again. It would be a violation of multiple international treaties. Vikanias would calculate its options carefully I believe and even if they do that we won't support it cause nuking someone ruins RP and force the country that is affected to adopt extreme measures. Like we saw there are two Meretica's If I'm not wrong correct me If I'm. Don't get offended it's just an opinion!!


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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:51 pm

SM, how big is your army?

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:54 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:SM, how big is your army?


1.5M-2.5M Troops currently active, with 2.5 Reserve. Either way, Imma start slowly pulling out of the Galapagos soon. I'm as bored as they are, and not only that, but it's more boring when there is an unwillingness to lose, a.k.a a violation of standard II RP etiquette involved on their side. Either way, the Tourist Paradise proved to be successful enough, so the job in the Galapagos is pretty much done for now.
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:57 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:SM, how big is your army?


1.5M-2.5M Troops currently active, with 2.5 Reserve. Either way, Imma start slowly pulling out of the Galapagos soon. I'm as bored as they are, and not only that, but it's more boring when there is an unwillingness to lose, a.k.a a violation of standard II RP etiquette involved on their side. Either way, the Tourist Paradise proved to be successful enough, so the job in the Galapagos is pretty much done for now.

You've got most of your army aboard? Okay, also how was the tourist paradise successful?

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:58 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
1.5M-2.5M Troops currently active, with 2.5 Reserve. Either way, Imma start slowly pulling out of the Galapagos soon. I'm as bored as they are, and not only that, but it's more boring when there is an unwillingness to lose, a.k.a a violation of standard II RP etiquette involved on their side. Either way, the Tourist Paradise proved to be successful enough, so the job in the Galapagos is pretty much done for now.

You've got most of your army aboard? Okay, also how was the tourist paradise successful?

It was successfully ruined by GLA troops
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:00 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
1.5M-2.5M Troops currently active, with 2.5 Reserve. Either way, Imma start slowly pulling out of the Galapagos soon. I'm as bored as they are, and not only that, but it's more boring when there is an unwillingness to lose, a.k.a a violation of standard II RP etiquette involved on their side. Either way, the Tourist Paradise proved to be successful enough, so the job in the Galapagos is pretty much done for now.

You've got most of your army aboard? Okay, also how was the tourist paradise successful?


Simple, the overall goal of mine was to create attractions to bring tourists and foreign investment into the Galapagos, and potentially claim it in the name of the GA, but two things happened there (The unwillingness to lose and ESS's inactivity). However, the original goal of attracting foreign investment was successful, especially since this is only the second longest RP I have participated in, meaning that after a pull out, the economy will benefit. However, while this means that all of my characters and all of my armed forces will leave, ties will remain in the form of an embassy and some Marajarbian immigrants that the Galapagos does not have permission to kill.
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:02 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:You've got most of your army aboard? Okay, also how was the tourist paradise successful?


Simple, the overall goal of mine was to create attractions to bring tourists and foreign investment into the Galapagos, and potentially claim it in the name of the GA, but two things happened there (The unwillingness to lose and ESS's inactivity). However, the original goal of attracting foreign investment was successful, especially since this is only the second longest RP I have participated in.
I assume most of the attractions would of been/be destroyed before or after your soldiers leave though? I also think that the Galapagos may go on the offensive after a while of rebuilding.

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Simple, the overall goal of mine was to create attractions to bring tourists and foreign investment into the Galapagos, and potentially claim it in the name of the GA, but two things happened there (The unwillingness to lose and ESS's inactivity). However, the original goal of attracting foreign investment was successful, especially since this is only the second longest RP I have participated in.
I assume most of the attractions would of been/be destroyed before or after your soldiers leave though? I also think that the Galapagos may go on the offensive after a while of rebuilding.


Meh, the GLA rebuilding the nation would be like Eastern Germany rebuilding after WWII, it would take a 10 year time jump to justify "going on the offensive".
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:06 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote: I assume most of the attractions would of been/be destroyed before or after your soldiers leave though? I also think that the Galapagos may go on the offensive after a while of rebuilding.


Meh, the GLA rebuilding the nation would be like Eastern Germany rebuilding after WWII, it would take a 10 year time jump to justify "going on the offensive".

I guess so.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote: I assume most of the attractions would of been/be destroyed before or after your soldiers leave though? I also think that the Galapagos may go on the offensive after a while of rebuilding.


Meh, the GLA rebuilding the nation would be like Eastern Germany rebuilding after WWII, it would take a 10 year time jump to justify "going on the offensive".

I will be back, probably with more nukes and some of those drone SO was talking about
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pm

Ellinika Nisia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Meh, the GLA rebuilding the nation would be like Eastern Germany rebuilding after WWII, it would take a 10 year time jump to justify "going on the offensive".

I guess so.


Also, not only that, but the "Mixed Economy" in the 10 Year Plans of Gov. Andrews are also still in place to take place regardless of which government is in charge. Meaning that, the Galapagos is pretty much ICly both socialist and capitalist, making rebuilding take a little longer than a decade.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:13 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Ellinika Nisia wrote:I guess so.


Also, not only that, but the "Mixed Economy" in the 10 Year Plans of Gov. Andrews are also still in place to take place regardless of which government is in charge. Meaning that, the Galapagos is pretty much ICly both socialist and capitalist, making rebuilding take a little longer than a decade.

Oh god no, as soon as your troops leave there will be a facist coup that removes all communist influence
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Ellinika Nisia
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Postby Ellinika Nisia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:15 pm

I have a few roleplay posts to make, such as Northern Italy joining the nation, technocrats finishing a few things, purchase of some land from turkey (maybe Ukraine too) and boosting relations with SM, Meretica and SO. Then I'll probably ditch NATO and possibly join the UF.

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