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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:26 pm

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The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:With rebellious members the party would be less United and less trustworthy of each other only creating further division between the TSA

There would be no rebellious members. Most parliamentary systems have incredibly high rates of loyalty. Look up the Canadian rates of rebellion against the party. Especially for a landmark bill.

Yes however this isn’t Canada and this isn’t one party, there would be more rebellious members who are more extreme in their thoughts
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Postby South Olpen » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:28 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
South Olpen wrote:There would be no rebellious members. Most parliamentary systems have incredibly high rates of loyalty. Look up the Canadian rates of rebellion against the party. Especially for a landmark bill.

Yes however this isn’t Canada and this isn’t one party, there would be more rebellious members who are more extreme in their thoughts

More extreme? Yes. After the bill failed or stalled, the TSA might shader. But if you would be for the bill you would be a PLP PM, not a LibCom/LibCap.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:29 pm

South Olpen wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:With rebellious members the party would be less United and less trustworthy of each other only creating further division between the TSA

There would be no rebellious members. Most parliamentary systems have incredibly high rates of loyalty. Look up the Canadian rates of rebellion against the party. Especially for a landmark bill.


How about this? Throughout 3 IC years (maybe a week and a half or so), the LibCaps and LibComs improve the Galapagos through infrastructure and trade development as well as tourism, and during that particular midterm, the independence bill is proposed. The only thing that would need to be done is posting the events ICly on The Multiverse Affairs.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:29 pm

Also there is the possibility that the Balkans never supplied weapons to the angry Galapagos civilians making independence seem less dangerous and with the capture of GLA leaders many would think of independence as less risky
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:33 pm

Also the only way the Galapagos would not erupt into civil war was a quick independence
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:33 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Also there is the possibility that the Balkans never supplied weapons to the angry Galapagos civilians making independence seem less dangerous and with the capture of GLA leaders many would think of independence as less risky


That’s also a pretty good idea. That could work.
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Postby South Olpen » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:34 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Also the only way the Galapagos would not erupt into civil war was a quick independence

A civil war would mean an offensive PLP/GLA war.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:37 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Also there is the possibility that the Balkans never supplied weapons to the angry Galapagos civilians making independence seem less dangerous and with the capture of GLA leaders many would think of independence as less risky


That’s also a pretty good idea. That could work.

Ok so

During the elections GLA leaders are caught in Beirut ceasing fear of a GLA takeover. And due to this more people vote for the PLP combined with the Dove Party causing them to win over 50% of the vote. With this the newly democratic government allows for some tourist stations to be set up while distancing themselves from the GA.

Is this ok?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:41 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
That’s also a pretty good idea. That could work.

Ok so

During the elections GLA leaders are caught in Beirut ceasing fear of a GLA takeover. And due to this more people vote for the PLP combined with the Dove Party causing them to win over 50% of the vote. With this the newly democratic government allows for some tourist stations to be set up while distancing themselves from the GA.

Is this ok?


No. Here is what I want.

After the election, GLA leaders are finally captured in Beirut, and are put on trial for war crimes. The TSA then goes on to ensure that their victory grants the Galapagos independence after implementing their plans for a new Tourist Paradise. However, the PLP has the minority, and the Dove Party is established as it gains momentum and support while organizing peaceful protests, and not violent riots.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:43 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Ok so

During the elections GLA leaders are caught in Beirut ceasing fear of a GLA takeover. And due to this more people vote for the PLP combined with the Dove Party causing them to win over 50% of the vote. With this the newly democratic government allows for some tourist stations to be set up while distancing themselves from the GA.

Is this ok?


No. Here is what I want.

After the election, GLA leaders are finally captured in Beirut, and are put on trial for war crimes. The TSA then goes on to ensure that their victory grants the Galapagos independence after implementing their plans for a new Tourist Paradise. However, the PLP has the minority, and the Dove Party is established as it gains momentum and support while organizing peaceful protests, and not violent riots.

So in conclusion the Galapagos gains independence after the whole tourist thing (you could have just asked for more hospitality services) and in a following election the PLP, Dove Party coalition wins separating themselves from the GA
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:44 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
No. Here is what I want.

After the election, GLA leaders are finally captured in Beirut, and are put on trial for war crimes. The TSA then goes on to ensure that their victory grants the Galapagos independence after implementing their plans for a new Tourist Paradise. However, the PLP has the minority, and the Dove Party is established as it gains momentum and support while organizing peaceful protests, and not violent riots.

So in conclusion the Galapagos gains independence after the whole tourist thing (you could have just asked for more hospitality services) and in a following election the PLP, Dove Party coalition wins separating themselves from the GA


That was originally what was being planned, so yes.
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Postby South Olpen » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:46 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:So in conclusion the Galapagos gains independence after the whole tourist thing (you could have just asked for more hospitality services) and in a following election the PLP, Dove Party coalition wins separating themselves from the GA


That was originally what was being planned, so yes.

I believe the second election should be implemented in the normal cycle, with no snap election being called.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:46 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:So in conclusion the Galapagos gains independence after the whole tourist thing (you could have just asked for more hospitality services) and in a following election the PLP, Dove Party coalition wins separating themselves from the GA


That was originally what was being planned, so yes.

Glad we could come to a resolution in the end. At the end of the day we all acted like children I’m glad we could settle our differences and come up with a way to settle the whole cannon problem like civilized people.
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Postby South Olpen » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:48 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
That was originally what was being planned, so yes.

Glad we could come to a resolution in the end. At the end of the day we all acted like children I’m glad we could settle our differences and come up with a way to settle the whole cannon problem like civilized people.

Indeed, yes. I always believe that stewing in anger and resentment does nothing but fuel hatred.
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Postby Vikanias » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:55 pm

I wanna have some seals rob a foreign bank.
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Postby Meretica » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:57 pm

Part of me wants to write about a failed attempt to assassinate Lady Cyr, but I can't think of anyone stupid enough to attempt it.
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Postby Gonswanza » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:06 pm

Meretica wrote:Part of me wants to write about a failed attempt to assassinate Lady Cyr, but I can't think of anyone stupid enough to attempt it.

Lady Cyr gets food poisoning from a car battery, idk.

Does that even count at this point?
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Postby Meretica » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:12 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Meretica wrote:Part of me wants to write about a failed attempt to assassinate Lady Cyr, but I can't think of anyone stupid enough to attempt it.

Lady Cyr gets food poisoning from a car battery, idk.

Does that even count at this point?

...A.) Why is she earing car batteries?
B.) The plot failed is what I was headcanoning.
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Postby Gonswanza » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:42 pm

Meretica wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Lady Cyr gets food poisoning from a car battery, idk.

Does that even count at this point?

...A.) Why is she earing car batteries?
B.) The plot failed is what I was headcanoning.

No idea. But yea, I can't think of anyone who could try to kill her, save for maybe a mentally damaged body guard with a family that is totally worth persecuting.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:03 am

Just saying it here and now. Z-Day, like N-Day, isn’t canon for me due to it being an unrealistic gameside event.
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Postby South Olpen » Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:08 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Just saying it here and now. Z-Day, like N-Day, isn’t canon for me due to it being an unrealistic gameside event.

Don’t worry, everything is magically transformed back to normal. It’s not canon for anyone I don’t think.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:13 am

South Olpen wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Just saying it here and now. Z-Day, like N-Day, isn’t canon for me due to it being an unrealistic gameside event.

Don’t worry, everything is magically transformed back to normal. It’s not canon for anyone I don’t think.


Either way, it is an unrealistic event that’s gameside. Seriously, because during the first 5 or so hours of the event, a news post was made, and the game was reset to when the event began. That, plus the fact that there are zombies, is why it is unrealistic.

Why I say this is because of the recent post on the IC thread.
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Postby Pumpkin Isle » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:51 am

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Postby Gonswanza » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:54 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Just saying it here and now. Z-Day, like N-Day, isn’t canon for me due to it being an unrealistic gameside event.

It's not canon at all, plus I just treat it like N-Day: as a computer simulation "for fun" given how it's run.

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Either way, it is an unrealistic event that’s gameside. Seriously, because during the first 5 or so hours of the event, a news post was made, and the game was reset to when the event began. That, plus the fact that there are zombies, is why it is unrealistic.

Why I say this is because of the recent post on the IC thread.


Oh come on now, I just poke fun at an event, suddenly, it's treated as canon? You people really, really need to learn how to pick up on glaring, blatant details. Plus, the only posts that even HINT at it basically write it off as non-canon.
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Postby Vikanias » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:23 am

BONK
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