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The southern indian civil wars (IC)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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[quote="Corrington";p="38887933"]As the conflict between ZN and SI briefly sparked, 1,500 more Corrish military forces withdraw from surrounding cities, leaving 2,500 soldiers in the capital city. On the night of the day ZN backs out of the war, a fleet of Corrish helicopters are prepared for air evacuation of the 2,500 back to an ICDN air base in ZN-held territory. Code word “PARIS” is relayed to the Corrish forces, who have consolidated their forces around South Indian government buildings, being the longest-standing ICDN deployment to keep to their agreement of protecting the South Indian government from insurgencies. That night, more occupation gear is taken off-site by helicopters as the soldiers remain with riot gear, SWAT gear and other necessary combat equipment. Citizens are kept off the streets by any means necessary. Helicopter evacuation zones are prepared on the capital building’s roof and lawn. It appears that the Corrish deployments in the South Indian capital has every intention of leaving the next day.

Corrish soldiers advise the South Indian General and other government officials from South India of insurgency threats in the city being the reason for the imminent Corrish withdrawal. The Corrish King Richard V has taken interest in the conflict and is concerned for the destabilization that may unfold if what is left of a South Indian government is killed off in the war. The King is willing to grant any regime officials fleeing the imminent conflict safe harbor in Corrington. The Corrish military stationed in the capital offer to take any and all willing government workers/officials to neutral territory during the next helicopter evacuation before further civil unrest or an official war with the ICDN begins. The troops await the SI government’s response.[/quote]
The dictator more concerned which pushing back the rebels and preventing chaos doesn’t care when a large amount of his officials leaves him as at this point all he wants is his army.

New event chain unlocked: the collapsing of the SI government (for the third time).
A combination of ZN’s invasion and his giving of a lot of power to war lords for support allowed for the war lords and princes to act differently from the federal government. Many using it increase taxes which outraged many. With warlords who want to unite the place under their rule and communists preparing a second revolution and now the economy committing fall the stability was under risk
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Postby Romextly » Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:15 pm

Corrington wrote:As the conflict between ZN and SI briefly sparked, 1,500 more Corrish military forces withdraw from surrounding cities, leaving 2,500 soldiers in the capital city. On the night of the day ZN backs out of the war, a fleet of Corrish helicopters are prepared for air evacuation of the 2,500 back to an ICDN air base in ZN-held territory. Code word “PARIS” is relayed to the Corrish forces, who have consolidated their forces around South Indian government buildings, being the longest-standing ICDN deployment to keep to their agreement of protecting the South Indian government from insurgencies. That night, more occupation gear is taken off-site by helicopters as the soldiers remain with riot gear, SWAT gear and other necessary combat equipment. Citizens are kept off the streets by any means necessary. Helicopter evacuation zones are prepared on the capital building’s roof and lawn. It appears that the Corrish deployments in the South Indian capital has every intention of leaving the next day.

Corrish soldiers advise the South Indian General and other government officials from South India of insurgency threats in the city being the reason for the imminent Corrish withdrawal. The Corrish King Richard V has taken interest in the conflict and is concerned for the destabilization that may unfold if what is left of a South Indian government is killed off in the war. The King is willing to grant any regime officials fleeing the imminent conflict safe harbor in Corrington. The Corrish military stationed in the capital offer to take any and all willing government workers/officials to neutral territory during the next helicopter evacuation before further civil unrest or an official war with the ICDN begins. The troops await the SI government’s response.

President Gupta condemns Corringtons support to an illegal and human rights abusing regime, which is not the government. Meanwhile, the destruction of SI vessels allows for thousands of modern equipment to enter the harbor, along with mercenaries from around the world's that are mostly ex-special forces enter. The troops begin to slowly push back the regime, and more fundraising is expected.

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:24 pm

Romextly wrote:
Corrington wrote:As the conflict between ZN and SI briefly sparked, 1,500 more Corrish military forces withdraw from surrounding cities, leaving 2,500 soldiers in the capital city. On the night of the day ZN backs out of the war, a fleet of Corrish helicopters are prepared for air evacuation of the 2,500 back to an ICDN air base in ZN-held territory. Code word “PARIS” is relayed to the Corrish forces, who have consolidated their forces around South Indian government buildings, being the longest-standing ICDN deployment to keep to their agreement of protecting the South Indian government from insurgencies. That night, more occupation gear is taken off-site by helicopters as the soldiers remain with riot gear, SWAT gear and other necessary combat equipment. Citizens are kept off the streets by any means necessary. Helicopter evacuation zones are prepared on the capital building’s roof and lawn. It appears that the Corrish deployments in the South Indian capital has every intention of leaving the next day.

Corrish soldiers advise the South Indian General and other government officials from South India of insurgency threats in the city being the reason for the imminent Corrish withdrawal. The Corrish King Richard V has taken interest in the conflict and is concerned for the destabilization that may unfold if what is left of a South Indian government is killed off in the war. The King is willing to grant any regime officials fleeing the imminent conflict safe harbor in Corrington. The Corrish military stationed in the capital offer to take any and all willing government workers/officials to neutral territory during the next helicopter evacuation before further civil unrest or an official war with the ICDN begins. The troops await the SI government’s response.

President Gupta condemns Corringtons support to an illegal and human rights abusing regime, which is not the government. Meanwhile, the destruction of SI vessels allows for thousands of modern equipment to enter the harbor, along with mercenaries from around the world's that are mostly ex-special forces enter. The troops begin to slowly push back the regime, and more fundraising is expected.

The government trying to continue containment of the rebellion in kochi increases the pressure via moving a half of million militias from the warlords to the city. The quality of the troops surrounding goes down as they lack training. Some of the news troops our attack by rebels along the way and the warlords in return attacked back with brutality. The organization and command structure also starts to worsen with the new warlords. But they do heavily increase the dictators troops numbers.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:16 pm

The Corrish military evacuates consenting South Indian government and military officials out first, taking them to the ICDN base where, unbeknownst to those back in the capital, they are placed under immediate arrest to be detained by Corrish Military Police.

As news of the half a million untrained militants entering Kochi reaches the deployment of 2,500 guarding the capital, riot soldiers deploy more tear gas and begin erecting makeshift barriers around the capital building (out of cars/rubble) to ‘protect the building’ as insurgency activity increases. Code word “PARIS” is relayed a second time, and the capital deployment moves into position...

The next day at an hour before dawn, the 2,500 Corrish soldiers breach the South Indian capital building by surprise, taking several guards captive. Surrounding the building, several groups in riot/SWAT gear blast their way into the building while a second group from the Corrish S.A.S. is deployed via helicopter onto the rooftop to snipe any outside interference from the warlords. All South Indian government and military officials are taken captive inside and held hostage. S.A.S. squads search for the General and any other South Indian leaders with the intent to capture them alive. To continue to keep crowds away, forces around the perimeter maintain their riot shields and deploy copious amounts of tear gas. S.A.S. snipers continue their sights on the surrounding streets and buildings. The Corrish dead and wounded from this seizure of the capital and government buildings are made a priority for evacuation alongside the first group of captured government officials. The Corrish military makes an announcement that the first helicopter evac, as well as every following helicopter evac, will contain South Indian captives from the government regime.

Thus begins The South Indian Hostage Crisis.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:34 pm

Corrington wrote:The Corrish military evacuates consenting South Indian government and military officials out first, taking them to the ICDN base where, unbeknownst to those back in the capital, they are placed under immediate arrest to be detained by Corrish Military Police.

As news of the half a million untrained militants entering Kochi reaches the deployment of 2,500 guarding the capital, riot soldiers deploy more tear gas and begin erecting makeshift barriers around the capital building (out of cars/rubble) to ‘protect the building’ as insurgency activity increases. Code word “PARIS” is relayed a second time, and the capital deployment moves into position...

The next day at an hour before dawn, the 2,500 Corrish soldiers breach the South Indian capital building by surprise, taking several guards captive. Surrounding the building, several groups in riot/SWAT gear blast their way into the building while a second group from the Corrish S.A.S. is deployed via helicopter onto the rooftop to snipe any outside interference from the warlords. All South Indian government and military officials are taken captive inside and held hostage. S.A.S. squads search for the General and any other South Indian leaders with the intent to capture them alive. To continue to keep crowds away, forces around the perimeter maintain their riot shields and deploy copious amounts of tear gas. S.A.S. snipers continue their sights on the surrounding streets and buildings. The Corrish dead and wounded from this seizure of the capital and government buildings are made a priority for evacuation alongside the first group of captured government officials. The Corrish military makes an announcement that the first helicopter evac, as well as every following helicopter evac, will contain South Indian captives from the government regime.

Thus begins The South Indian Hostage Crisis.

The capitol is under the control of rebels? The currently temporary capitol is a military base 20 meters below ground where the dictator and warlords make decisions?
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:37 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:The Corrish military evacuates consenting South Indian government and military officials out first, taking them to the ICDN base where, unbeknownst to those back in the capital, they are placed under immediate arrest to be detained by Corrish Military Police.

As news of the half a million untrained militants entering Kochi reaches the deployment of 2,500 guarding the capital, riot soldiers deploy more tear gas and begin erecting makeshift barriers around the capital building (out of cars/rubble) to ‘protect the building’ as insurgency activity increases. Code word “PARIS” is relayed a second time, and the capital deployment moves into position...

The next day at an hour before dawn, the 2,500 Corrish soldiers breach the South Indian capital building by surprise, taking several guards captive. Surrounding the building, several groups in riot/SWAT gear blast their way into the building while a second group from the Corrish S.A.S. is deployed via helicopter onto the rooftop to snipe any outside interference from the warlords. All South Indian government and military officials are taken captive inside and held hostage. S.A.S. squads search for the General and any other South Indian leaders with the intent to capture them alive. To continue to keep crowds away, forces around the perimeter maintain their riot shields and deploy copious amounts of tear gas. S.A.S. snipers continue their sights on the surrounding streets and buildings. The Corrish dead and wounded from this seizure of the capital and government buildings are made a priority for evacuation alongside the first group of captured government officials. The Corrish military makes an announcement that the first helicopter evac, as well as every following helicopter evac, will contain South Indian captives from the government regime.

Thus begins The South Indian Hostage Crisis.

The capitol is under the control of rebels? The currently temporary capitol is a military base 20 meters below ground where the dictator and warlords make decisions?

Ah, well then it’s just what remains of the government above ground that gets captured by the Corrish military, not the military leadership.

The S.A.S. searches the entire building, but does not find the Dictator. The first two groups of wounded/captured officials is evacuated.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:41 pm

Corrington wrote:The Corrish military evacuates consenting South Indian government and military officials out first, taking them to the ICDN base where, unbeknownst to those back in the capital, they are placed under immediate arrest to be detained by Corrish Military Police.

As news of the half a million untrained militants entering Kochi reaches the deployment of 2,500 guarding the capital, riot soldiers deploy more tear gas and begin erecting makeshift barriers around the capital building (out of cars/rubble) to ‘protect the building’ as insurgency activity increases. Code word “PARIS” is relayed a second time, and the capital deployment moves into position...

The next day at an hour before dawn, the 2,500 Corrish soldiers breach the South Indian capital building by surprise, taking several guards captive. Surrounding the building, several groups in riot/SWAT gear blast their way into the building while a second group from the Corrish S.A.S. is deployed via helicopter onto the rooftop to snipe any outside interference from the warlords. All South Indian government and military officials are taken captive inside and held hostage. S.A.S. squads search for the General and any other South Indian leaders with the intent to capture them alive. To continue to keep crowds away, forces around the perimeter maintain their riot shields and deploy copious amounts of tear gas. S.A.S. snipers continue their sights on the surrounding streets and buildings. The Corrish dead and wounded from this seizure of the capital and government buildings are made a priority for evacuation alongside the first group of captured government officials. The Corrish military makes an announcement that the first helicopter evac, as well as every following helicopter evac, will contain South Indian captives from the government regime.

Thus begins The South Indian Hostage Crisis.

The military leadership was not found due to all of them either being in deployed units or in extremely defended mountain bunkers far from the ICDN reach and the dictator couldn’t care less that a bunch of possibly rebellious civilian administrators who are useless in a war our captured. He even jokingly says “kill them all. Serves them right for being idiots.”
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:45 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:The Corrish military evacuates consenting South Indian government and military officials out first, taking them to the ICDN base where, unbeknownst to those back in the capital, they are placed under immediate arrest to be detained by Corrish Military Police.

As news of the half a million untrained militants entering Kochi reaches the deployment of 2,500 guarding the capital, riot soldiers deploy more tear gas and begin erecting makeshift barriers around the capital building (out of cars/rubble) to ‘protect the building’ as insurgency activity increases. Code word “PARIS” is relayed a second time, and the capital deployment moves into position...

The next day at an hour before dawn, the 2,500 Corrish soldiers breach the South Indian capital building by surprise, taking several guards captive. Surrounding the building, several groups in riot/SWAT gear blast their way into the building while a second group from the Corrish S.A.S. is deployed via helicopter onto the rooftop to snipe any outside interference from the warlords. All South Indian government and military officials are taken captive inside and held hostage. S.A.S. squads search for the General and any other South Indian leaders with the intent to capture them alive. To continue to keep crowds away, forces around the perimeter maintain their riot shields and deploy copious amounts of tear gas. S.A.S. snipers continue their sights on the surrounding streets and buildings. The Corrish dead and wounded from this seizure of the capital and government buildings are made a priority for evacuation alongside the first group of captured government officials. The Corrish military makes an announcement that the first helicopter evac, as well as every following helicopter evac, will contain South Indian captives from the government regime.

Thus begins The South Indian Hostage Crisis.

The military leadership was not found due to all of them either being in deployed units or in extremely defended mountain bunkers far from the ICDN reach and the dictator couldn’t care less that a bunch of possibly rebellious civilian administrators who are useless in a war our captured. He even jokingly says “kill them all. Serves them right for being idiots.”

The final few helicopters of captives and soldiers evacuate the capital. Following this full evacuation, Corrish forces are regrouped with other ICDN forces, and all captured South Indian soldiers/officials are sent back to eventually face interrogation and trial.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:52 pm

Corrington wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:The military leadership was not found due to all of them either being in deployed units or in extremely defended mountain bunkers far from the ICDN reach and the dictator couldn’t care less that a bunch of possibly rebellious civilian administrators who are useless in a war our captured. He even jokingly says “kill them all. Serves them right for being idiots.”

The final few helicopters of captives and soldiers evacuate the capital. Following this full evacuation, Corrish forces are regrouped with other ICDN forces, and all captured South Indian soldiers/officials are sent back to eventually face interrogation and trial.

Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus. Most just want to avoid the conflict and get a paycheck. All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:59 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:The final few helicopters of captives and soldiers evacuate the capital. Following this full evacuation, Corrish forces are regrouped with other ICDN forces, and all captured South Indian soldiers/officials are sent back to eventually face interrogation and trial.

Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus. Most just want to avoid the conflict and get a paycheck. All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.

The official orders instructed peacekeepers to arrest all officials within the building. Those who refused to go were wrested into captivity, or may have needed to be incapacitated. Regardless of consent, the Corrish peacekeepers wouldn’t take “no” for an answer.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:04 pm

Corrington wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus. Most just want to avoid the conflict and get a paycheck. All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.

The official orders instructed peacekeepers to arrest all officials within the building. Those who refused to go were wrested into captivity, or may have needed to be incapacitated. Regardless of consent, the Corrish peacekeepers wouldn’t take “no” for an answer.

The major commanders are leading troops 10,000-150,000 strong. The troops would Simply laugh then open fire from the safety of their defenses or just use the fact that at best they number the ICDN troops 1:3 and if they somehow start winning they’ll just call for help and get help. Or just have the commanders retreat if they are ok with losing the position.
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Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:The official orders instructed peacekeepers to arrest all officials within the building. Those who refused to go were wrested into captivity, or may have needed to be incapacitated. Regardless of consent, the Corrish peacekeepers wouldn’t take “no” for an answer.

The major commanders are leading troops 10,000-150,000 strong. The troops would Simply laugh then open fire from the safety of their defenses or just use the fact that at best they number the ICDN troops 1:3 and if they somehow start winning they’ll just call for help and get help. Or just have the commanders retreat if they are ok with losing the position.

(Is this now or earlier during the capture?)
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:10 pm

Corrington wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:The major commanders are leading troops 10,000-150,000 strong. The troops would Simply laugh then open fire from the safety of their defenses or just use the fact that at best they number the ICDN troops 1:3 and if they somehow start winning they’ll just call for help and get help. Or just have the commanders retreat if they are ok with losing the position.

(Is this now or earlier during the capture?)

Non of the major officials took the bait and no government officials were in the capitol. The capitol had rebel troops using it as cover from the government barrage of artillery.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:13 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:(Is this now or earlier during the capture?)

Non of the major officials took the bait and no government officials were in the capitol. The capitol had rebel troops using it as cover from the government barrage of artillery.

OOC: That’s not the same as you said earlier. You just said that there were consenting officials willing to be captured as well as officials knowing confidential information who said “no”. You can’t change the story afterwards and say that there were no government officials in the capital.
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Addition: And don’t try to edit the old messages that confirm this, I’ll see the time you changed them.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:18 pm

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Zarnicovia nova wrote:Non of the major officials took the bait and no government officials were in the capitol. The capitol had rebel troops using it as cover from the government barrage of artillery.

OOC: That’s not the same as you said earlier. You just said that there were consenting officials willing to be captured as well as officials knowing confidential information who said “no”. You can’t change the story afterwards and say that there were no government officials in the capital.

No I said that their was officials accepting and I said that the capitol WAS UNDER REBEL CONTROL.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:23 pm

Here’s something you said:

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:The final few helicopters of captives and soldiers evacuate the capital. Following this full evacuation, Corrish forces are regrouped with other ICDN forces, and all captured South Indian soldiers/officials are sent back to eventually face interrogation and trial.

Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus. Most just want to avoid the conflict and get a paycheck. All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.


Take note of the point where you say: “All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.”

You also say nothing about rebels, instead saying of the people inside the capital that “Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus”. I’m pretty sure that people who want to govern the country are government officials, and people who could be charged with corruption are also government officials too, since you mention the coup where government officials were bribed. Just admit it, per your own words, there were loyal government officials AND unloyal government officials in that building.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:39 pm

Corrington wrote:Here’s something you said:

Zarnicovia nova wrote:Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus. Most just want to avoid the conflict and get a paycheck. All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.


Take note of the point where you say: “All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.”

You also say nothing about rebels, instead saying of the people inside the capital that “Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus”. I’m pretty sure that people who want to govern the country are government officials, and people who could be charged with corruption are also government officials too, since you mention the coup where government officials were bribed. Just admit it, per your own words, there were loyal government officials AND unloyal government officials in that building.

Yeah but the ones with data military info aren’t that stupid nor would they ever go into the enemies hands. But what is the use of civilian info in an invasion. All of it would be: the economy is screwed. Because civilian government officials wouldn’t have military info because their 1st not trusted as they are bribed 2nd who would give civilian government officials military info.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:55 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:Here’s something you said:



Take note of the point where you say: “All the people who were given classified data were loyal to the dictator or warlords both refused to go.”

You also say nothing about rebels, instead saying of the people inside the capital that “Most turn out to be neutral in the conflict and just want to govern the country in a stable city and most of all the paycheck. Some could be charged with corruption and with the coup being by corruption is obviously sus”. I’m pretty sure that people who want to govern the country are government officials, and people who could be charged with corruption are also government officials too, since you mention the coup where government officials were bribed. Just admit it, per your own words, there were loyal government officials AND unloyal government officials in that building.

Yeah but the ones with data military info aren’t that stupid nor would they ever go into the enemies hands. But what is the use of civilian info in an invasion. All of it would be: the economy is screwed. Because civilian government officials wouldn’t have military info because their 1st not trusted as they are bribed 2nd who would give civilian government officials military info.

We’ll gladly take those with civilian data. Government officials are government officials. Once they’re removed, it’ll be that much harder for the dictator to ever get a stable hold over the nation again. Government positions don’t exist for no reason at all, and with them gone the dictator will have a difficult time returning the country to stability or normalcy. As for “who would give civilian government officials military info”, a lot of governments do. Look at Parliament in the UK, Congress in the US, and many other governments in capital cities which have officials and representatives who are granted military intelligence. I’d think South India wouldn’t be all that different.

Also, nobody ever said those with classified information would go willingly. You said that there were officials loyal to the dictator in the building. Sure those officials wouldn’t be stupid enough to go willingly, but what stops Corrish peacekeepers from forcefully capturing them against their will?
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:02 pm

Corrington wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Yeah but the ones with data military info aren’t that stupid nor would they ever go into the enemies hands. But what is the use of civilian info in an invasion. All of it would be: the economy is screwed. Because civilian government officials wouldn’t have military info because their 1st not trusted as they are bribed 2nd who would give civilian government officials military info.

We’ll gladly take those with civilian data. Government officials are government officials. Once they’re removed, it’ll be that much harder for the dictator to ever get a stable hold over the nation again. Government positions don’t exist for no reason at all, and with them gone the dictator will have a difficult time returning the country to stability or normalcy. As for “who would give civilian government officials military info”, a lot of governments do. Look at Parliament in the UK, Congress in the US, and many other governments in capital cities which have officials and representatives who are granted military intelligence. I’d think South India wouldn’t be all that different.

Also, nobody ever said those with classified information would go willingly. You said that there were officials loyal to the dictator in the building. Sure those officials wouldn’t be stupid enough to go willingly, but what stops Corrish peacekeepers from forcefully capturing them against their will?

I said that the capitol was UNDER REBEL CONTROL. You think that the rebels would just leave the dictators government their without killing them and that the government wouldn’t evacuate the capitol? Rebels control the capitol city of Kochi. The civilian administrators who are scared of purges from both sides would take the bait to get out. And yes he’d have trouble stabilizing the country after an ICDN invasion but he more concerned about surviving.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:08 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Corrington wrote:We’ll gladly take those with civilian data. Government officials are government officials. Once they’re removed, it’ll be that much harder for the dictator to ever get a stable hold over the nation again. Government positions don’t exist for no reason at all, and with them gone the dictator will have a difficult time returning the country to stability or normalcy. As for “who would give civilian government officials military info”, a lot of governments do. Look at Parliament in the UK, Congress in the US, and many other governments in capital cities which have officials and representatives who are granted military intelligence. I’d think South India wouldn’t be all that different.

Also, nobody ever said those with classified information would go willingly. You said that there were officials loyal to the dictator in the building. Sure those officials wouldn’t be stupid enough to go willingly, but what stops Corrish peacekeepers from forcefully capturing them against their will?

I said that the capitol was UNDER REBEL CONTROL. You think that the rebels would just leave the dictators government their without killing them and that the government wouldn’t evacuate the capitol? Rebels control the capitol city of Kochi. The civilian administrators who are scared of purges from both sides would take the bait to get out. And yes he’d have trouble stabilizing the country after an ICDN invasion but he more concerned about surviving.

Yes, there are civilian administrators who accepted, but you also said there were government loyalists. We’re taking them whether they like it or not.

Also, quote when you stated the capitol was under rebel control before we debated this. If you can support the claim, I’ll believe it.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:13 pm

Romextly wrote:President Sheet Gupta finally appears in public in Kochi. He had been kidnapped, but members I the conservative militia loyal to him had freed him. He makes phone calls to friends and allies, asking for financial aid, primarily to Romxtlian millionaires and billionaires. They promise to create a fundraising to arm the Democratic forces. Meanwhile they pledge 10 million combined, which he uses to buy arms, instructers, AA guns, AT guns and ammunition. He calls the "government" a fake and calls for the liberation from autocratic rule. At that moment, 20,000 Conservative militia men enter and secure Kochi, proclaiming it the current capital of the elected government. Gupta calls on the liberal militias to join him in fighting off undemocratic government and the IIS.

Not me who said it but romextly/pres gupta.
Yeah but would you trust bribed government officials with important information. And anyways that loyalty would be from money not real loyalty. You could just buy the info out of them.
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Postby Corrington » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:19 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:President Sheet Gupta finally appears in public in Kochi. He had been kidnapped, but members I the conservative militia loyal to him had freed him. He makes phone calls to friends and allies, asking for financial aid, primarily to Romxtlian millionaires and billionaires. They promise to create a fundraising to arm the Democratic forces. Meanwhile they pledge 10 million combined, which he uses to buy arms, instructers, AA guns, AT guns and ammunition. He calls the "government" a fake and calls for the liberation from autocratic rule. At that moment, 20,000 Conservative militia men enter and secure Kochi, proclaiming it the current capital of the elected government. Gupta calls on the liberal militias to join him in fighting off undemocratic government and the IIS.

Not me who said it but romextly/pres gupta.
Yeah but would you trust bribed government officials with important information. And anyways that loyalty would be from money not real loyalty. You could just buy the info out of them.

Oh, well that’d explain it. I kept looking for a post from you, didn’t look at Romextley. Sorry about that.

Well, just because they’re bribed doesn’t mean they’re in the dark. They’re still government officials, so while they definitely won’t know as much as the dictator or the warlords, they have to know something. Well, I guess this settles it. The Corrish forces will just take what officials they can (some will be useful, most probably won’t but that’s ok), and most forces will evacuate the city to leave the rebels in Kochi to do their business, since they have the city now apparently. Still, about 1,200 peacekeepers will stay behind to help the rebels hold Kochi.

Thanks for producing the quote.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:13 am

Zarnicovia nova wrote:ZN president Kaya Jones signed an executive order today reconfirming that the president was the legitimate government avoiding having to go through the senate and preparing an attack. ZN remotely disabled the SI Air Force then sent in the naval group and their planes agains the SI navy and the nation and establishing a naval blockade around SI. The navy and air force sunk the whole SI navy surrounding kochi no casualties. Then bombers hit the nation hard bombing moving government forces into the ground and halting their recovery of their economy by stopping almost all trade into SI and bombing the industry. To avoid the seawall they just went around by using paratroopers to gain landing points. But when they landed they did not find a demoralized army who wanted to join ZN like in 2015 when they started the mess but a veteran well-armed fighting force. The ZN paratroopers and their planes we’re shot out of the skies and for the ones who arrived we’re hunted down and killed. Disorganized and confused most died and the remaining with no way to retreat ran into the forces. Command ordered off the attack and Kaya Jones was forced to back down and out of war against the dictator entirely after the senate overruled her executive order with 64% approval of the revoking of the order.

Turns out that a SI hindu assaulted a zarnicovian christian missionary and didn’t get a extremely harsh punishment so the church condemned the attack and passed declarations of holy war war though the church electorate. Who at this point it only told the vast majority of senators in ZN’s vote aye on declaring war because their election district is majority zarnicovian christian. Official declaration of war is passed the next day. ZN bombing and blockade re-begin but they wait for the ICDN orders to launch an invasion. They also increase the troops of the IIS front to 50,000 as the IIS is now making small gains as the government moves troops to the south.
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Postby Arvan Irawer » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:55 am

Arvan Fighters start to perform patrols over the area, the main objective is to scout out landing sites and to find enemy locations.

(SIC to ICDN allies: 2 of our special forces units are deployed into rural areas to stir up hatred against dictators, the other 2 special forces units are deployed into cities to terrorize civilians.)
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