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Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Bradford West is a complex and competitive seat and she will have to campaign hard to keep it. The Conservatives have nominated a Muslim man and there has been a whispering campaign that she is not 'sufficiently Muslim'.

What’s the professional/occupational background of the Conservative candidate?

He is a businessman and Territorial Army officer.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:What’s the professional/occupational background of the Conservative candidate?

He is a businessman and Territorial Army officer.

OOC: What kind of business?

If his business charged interest, sold alcohol or did other haram things that wouldn’t play well and would lead to accusations of being hypocritical.

Also, I remembered, she was married. So she’s not a virgin now but was before marriage.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:He is a businessman and Territorial Army officer.

OOC: What kind of business?

If his business charged interest, sold alcohol or did other haram things that wouldn’t play well and would lead to accusations of being hypocritical.

Also, I remembered, she was married. So she’s not a virgin now but was before marriage.

One that didn't do that.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:OOC: What kind of business?

If his business charged interest, sold alcohol or did other haram things that wouldn’t play well and would lead to accusations of being hypocritical.

Also, I remembered, she was married. So she’s not a virgin now but was before marriage.

One that didn't do that.

OOC: the candidate could ask her what her opinion on homosexuality is.

Whatever answer she gives could lead to political repercussions whether for voters (if she supports it) or her party (if she opposes it).

IC: She offers to debate the Conservative candidate on the internet. She says she won’t do the debate in person because it’s her iddah.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:One that didn't do that.

OOC: the candidate could ask her what her opinion on homosexuality is.

Whatever answer she gives could lead to political repercussions whether for voters (if she supports it) or her party (if she opposes it).

IC: She offers to debate the Conservative candidate on the internet. She says she won’t do the debate in person because it’s her iddah.

He agrees to have virtual hustings.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:OOC: the candidate could ask her what her opinion on homosexuality is.

Whatever answer she gives could lead to political repercussions whether for voters (if she supports it) or her party (if she opposes it).

IC: She offers to debate the Conservative candidate on the internet. She says she won’t do the debate in person because it’s her iddah.

He agrees to have virtual hustings.

She asks him “in what way do you think the Conservative Party is better for this area than the Labour Party?” in the virtual hustings.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:He agrees to have virtual hustings.

She asks him “in what way do you think the Conservative Party is better for this area than the Labour Party?” in the virtual hustings.

"We believe in family values and hard work. Leaving the European Union and bringing full control of our foreign and immigration policy back to Westminster will allow us to build closer ties with fellow Commonwealth nations, which is of course important for many people here."

A question comes from the audience: what does she think of LGBT inclusive lessons in schools?

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:She asks him “in what way do you think the Conservative Party is better for this area than the Labour Party?” in the virtual hustings.

"We believe in family values and hard work. Leaving the European Union and bringing full control of our foreign and immigration policy back to Westminster will allow us to build closer ties with fellow Commonwealth nations, which is of course important for many people here."

“I greatly respect those beliefs and, because of that, you personally. I also believe in family values (I was loyal to my brother and my parents and are now loyal to their legacy) and ,of course, hard work.
Labour was started by the workers that built this country to fight for their rights. We introduced the minimum wage so workers could get their hard-earned reward in a way that better reflected the importance of employees to any successful business. As a businessman yourself I’m sure you agree they are a necessary part of any profitable organisation.” She said

A question comes from the audience: what does she think of LGBT inclusive lessons in schools?

“I’m opposed to indoctrinating children into accepting something disapproved of by many people of faith.
So I oppose schools forcing any opinion on homosexuality on children.”
She said.

She then asked the Conservative candidate his opinion on Palestine.

OOC: he’ll have to ask something else to win. Or he could offer massively better policies but I doubt that.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:"We believe in family values and hard work. Leaving the European Union and bringing full control of our foreign and immigration policy back to Westminster will allow us to build closer ties with fellow Commonwealth nations, which is of course important for many people here."

“I greatly respect those beliefs and, because of that, you personally. I also believe in family values (I was loyal to my brother and my parents and are now loyal to their legacy) and ,of course, hard work.
Labour was started by the workers that built this country to fight for their rights. We introduced the minimum wage so workers could get their hard-earned reward in a way that better reflected the importance of employees to any successful business. As a businessman yourself I’m sure you agree they are a necessary part of any profitable organisation.” She said

A question comes from the audience: what does she think of LGBT inclusive lessons in schools?

“I’m opposed to indoctrinating children into accepting something disapproved of by many people of faith.
So I oppose schools forcing any opinion on homosexuality on children.”
She said.

She then asked the Conservative candidate his opinion on Palestine.

OOC: he’ll have to ask something else to win. Or he could offer massively better policies but I doubt that.

He replies that he is 100% supportive of Palestine. Meanwhile, the media seizes on her remarks about LGBT inclusive lessons.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:“I greatly respect those beliefs and, because of that, you personally. I also believe in family values (I was loyal to my brother and my parents and are now loyal to their legacy) and ,of course, hard work.
Labour was started by the workers that built this country to fight for their rights. We introduced the minimum wage so workers could get their hard-earned reward in a way that better reflected the importance of employees to any successful business. As a businessman yourself I’m sure you agree they are a necessary part of any profitable organisation.” She said



“I’m opposed to indoctrinating children into accepting something disapproved of by many people of faith.
So I oppose schools forcing any opinion on homosexuality on children.”
She said.

She then asked the Conservative candidate his opinion on Palestine.

OOC: he’ll have to ask something else to win. Or he could offer massively better policies but I doubt that.

He replies that he is 100% supportive of Palestine. Meanwhile, the media seizes on her remarks about LGBT inclusive lessons.

“So am I” she says.

She asks him his views on the legality of polygyny.

Whilst the media criticise her support for pro-LGBT lessons, she becomes hailed as a heroine amongst the Muslims of Bradford. Any flack she would get about her late bisexual brother is greatly reduced.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:He replies that he is 100% supportive of Palestine. Meanwhile, the media seizes on her remarks about LGBT inclusive lessons.

“So am I” she says.

She asks him his views on the legality of polygyny.

Whilst the media criticise her support for pro-LGBT lessons, she becomes hailed as a heroine amongst the Muslims of Bradford. Any flack she would get about her late bisexual brother is greatly reduced.

He says that Labour's legalisation of 'multiple partner marriage' only happened because the party was pursuing the metropolitan liberal vote, and it is insulting to be lumped in with them. There are non-Muslim voters in Bradford West, and they are not happy with her stance.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:“So am I” she says.

She asks him his views on the legality of polygyny.

Whilst the media criticise her support for pro-LGBT lessons, she becomes hailed as a heroine amongst the Muslims of Bradford. Any flack she would get about her late bisexual brother is greatly reduced.

He says that Labour's legalisation of 'multiple partner marriage' only happened because the party was pursuing the metropolitan liberal vote, and it is insulting to be lumped in with them. There are non-Muslim voters in Bradford West, and they are not happy with her stance.

Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan asks him why he thinks polygyny is wrong.

Many of the non-Muslim voters probably oppose the Conservatives for other reasons (perhaps not most), this combined with almost the totality of the Muslim vote would probably get her elected.


Meanwhile the Liberal Democrats are increasingly popular in the South-East.

OOC: google the people who have actually been MPs for Bradford West in recent times. And even that is ignoring Labour immigration policies.

IC: “What would you do for the workers?” Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan asks, “I would fight to give him/her better union rights, a higher minimum wage and the opportunity for his/her children to go either to university or to good vocational training dependent on personal preference.”

OOC: can we do results day now?

Ideal Britain wrote:IC: “What would you do for the workers?” Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan asks, “I would fight to give him/her better union rights, a higher minimum wage and the opportunity for his/her children to go either to university or to good vocational training dependent on personal preference.”

OOC: can we do results day now?

The debate continues, he wins, the campaign happens, and since you want the results now:

It is Thursday 2 December 2021. Polling is about to close, and the election night programme has started. The exit poll is released. The Conservatives are projected to win 304 seats, Labour 115, the Lib Dems 106, and UKIP none. This will be the first Conservative government since John Major's landslide defeat in 1997. Explanations are quickly made: like Labour in 1945, the Conservatives are benefiting from having been brought into the cabinet and proving themselves as a capable party of government; the now-discredited UKIP has served as a way for working-class voters - Labour's (remaining) Northern heartlands are set to be decimated - to make their way to the Conservatives after abandoning Labour; and Northumbrian independence has destroyed Labour's reputation.

"Despite gaining seats overall, however, we are projecting that the Conservatives will lose many of their seats in the South East to the Liberal Democrats, and even some of their London seats to Labour. Although their leader Theresa May was at the start of the campaign thought to be one of the Conservatives who might lose their seats, it appears as though she will hold on in her constituency despite a strong challenge from the Lib Dems."

"We're now going to compare the projected results to those last time, but without taking into account the Scottish and Northumbrian constituencies. Labour would lose 55 seats, the Conservatives would gain 135, the Lib Dems would gain 68, and it looks as if UKIP, which had 152 seats last time, will now win no seats at all."

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:IC: “What would you do for the workers?” Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan asks, “I would fight to give him/her better union rights, a higher minimum wage and the opportunity for his/her children to go either to university or to good vocational training dependent on personal preference.”

OOC: can we do results day now?

The debate continues, he wins, the campaign happens, and since you want the results now:

It is Thursday 2 December 2021. Polling is about to close, and the election night programme has started. The exit poll is released. The Conservatives are projected to win 304 seats, Labour 115, the Lib Dems 106, and UKIP none. This will be the first Conservative government since John Major's landslide defeat in 1997. Explanations are quickly made: like Labour in 1945, the Conservatives are benefiting from having been brought into the cabinet and proving themselves as a capable party of government; the now-discredited UKIP has served as a way for working-class voters - Labour's (remaining) Northern heartlands are set to be decimated - to make their way to the Conservatives after abandoning Labour; and Northumbrian independence has destroyed Labour's reputation.

"Despite gaining seats overall, however, we are projecting that the Conservatives will lose many of their seats in the South East to the Liberal Democrats, and even some of their London seats to Labour. Although their leader Theresa May was at the start of the campaign thought to be one of the Conservatives who might lose their seats, it appears as though she will hold on in her constituency despite a strong challenge from the Lib Dems."

"We're now going to compare the projected results to those last time, but without taking into account the Scottish and Northumbrian constituencies. Labour would lose 55 seats, the Conservatives would gain 135, the Lib Dems would gain 68, and it looks as if UKIP, which had 152 seats last time, will now win no seats at all."

OOC: we agreed it’s 2022 (one month after the end of the Northumbrian war).

Can Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan win Bradford West please?

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The debate continues, he wins, the campaign happens, and since you want the results now:

It is Thursday 2 December 2021. Polling is about to close, and the election night programme has started. The exit poll is released. The Conservatives are projected to win 304 seats, Labour 115, the Lib Dems 106, and UKIP none. This will be the first Conservative government since John Major's landslide defeat in 1997. Explanations are quickly made: like Labour in 1945, the Conservatives are benefiting from having been brought into the cabinet and proving themselves as a capable party of government; the now-discredited UKIP has served as a way for working-class voters - Labour's (remaining) Northern heartlands are set to be decimated - to make their way to the Conservatives after abandoning Labour; and Northumbrian independence has destroyed Labour's reputation.

"Despite gaining seats overall, however, we are projecting that the Conservatives will lose many of their seats in the South East to the Liberal Democrats, and even some of their London seats to Labour. Although their leader Theresa May was at the start of the campaign thought to be one of the Conservatives who might lose their seats, it appears as though she will hold on in her constituency despite a strong challenge from the Lib Dems."

"We're now going to compare the projected results to those last time, but without taking into account the Scottish and Northumbrian constituencies. Labour would lose 55 seats, the Conservatives would gain 135, the Lib Dems would gain 68, and it looks as if UKIP, which had 152 seats last time, will now win no seats at all."

OOC: we agreed it’s 2022 (one month after the end of the Northumbrian war).

Can Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan win Bradford West please?

OOC: ok and why does she have to win

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote: OOC: we agreed it’s 2022 (one month after the end of the Northumbrian war).

Can Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan win Bradford West please?

OOC: ok and why does she have to win

OOC: because it makes sense.

By the way, has the Conservative candidate given a reason for why he thinks polygyny is wrong?

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:OOC: ok and why does she have to win

OOC: because it makes sense.

By the way, has the Conservative candidate given a reason for why he thinks polygyny is wrong?

OOC: he said Labour's introduction of a different version of it was wrong, Azad. also it does not make that much sense sorry. she would definitely lose if she was anyone other than the dead ex-PM's daughter but there is maybe a sympathy vote for her because her entire family died.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:OOC: because it makes sense.

By the way, has the Conservative candidate given a reason for why he thinks polygyny is wrong?

OOC: he said Labour's introduction of a different version of it was wrong, Azad. also it does not make that much sense sorry. she would definitely lose if she was anyone other than the dead ex-PM's daughter but there is maybe a sympathy vote for her because her entire family died.

OOC: she also criticised aspects of Labour’s implementation of it then. Especially the polyandry provision that was used as a front for sex trafficking in 2020.

Bradford votes Labour frequently, people largely supported her father and, yes, they feel sad her father gave his life for their freedom.

Let’s not do results yet since the political cross-over makes it impossible to tell them apart.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:OOC: he said Labour's introduction of a different version of it was wrong, Azad. also it does not make that much sense sorry. she would definitely lose if she was anyone other than the dead ex-PM's daughter but there is maybe a sympathy vote for her because her entire family died.

OOC: she also criticised aspects of Labour’s implementation of it then. Especially the polyandry provision that was used as a front for sex trafficking in 2020.

Bradford votes Labour frequently, people largely supported her father and, yes, they feel sad her father gave his life for their freedom.

Let’s not do results yet since the political cross-over makes it impossible to tell them apart.

what do you mean political crossover

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:OOC: she also criticised aspects of Labour’s implementation of it then. Especially the polyandry provision that was used as a front for sex trafficking in 2020.

Bradford votes Labour frequently, people largely supported her father and, yes, they feel sad her father gave his life for their freedom.

Let’s not do results yet since the political cross-over makes it impossible to tell them apart.

what do you mean political crossover

They have similar political stances.
Both support Palestine.
Both support the military.
Both think the legalisation of polygyny wasn’t implemented perfectly.
Both seem to support workers’ rights.


Is the Tory candidate either an outspoken homophobe or outspoken LGBT activist?

Because Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan never expressed her opinion one way or another on the morality of homosexuality or on gay marriage.
Let’s RP some more to see what their main differences are.

Also Labour are offering a Brexit referendum too in this, so you won’t get Labour types leaving for Brexit yet.

Ideal Britain wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:what do you mean political crossover

They have similar political stances.
Both support Palestine.
Both support the military.
Both think the legalisation of polygyny wasn’t implemented perfectly.
Both seem to support workers’ rights.


Is the Tory candidate either an outspoken homophobe or outspoken LGBT activist?

Because Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan never expressed her opinion one way or another on the morality of homosexuality or on gay marriage.
Let’s RP some more to see what their main differences are.

Also Labour are offering a Brexit referendum too in this, so you won’t get Labour types leaving for Brexit yet.

fine she won

also labour wouldn't that is a poor excuse

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Ideal Britain wrote:They have similar political stances.
Both support Palestine.
Both support the military.
Both think the legalisation of polygyny wasn’t implemented perfectly.
Both seem to support workers’ rights.


Is the Tory candidate either an outspoken homophobe or outspoken LGBT activist?

Because Aisha Bint Sikandar Khan never expressed her opinion one way or another on the morality of homosexuality or on gay marriage.
Let’s RP some more to see what their main differences are.

Also Labour are offering a Brexit referendum too in this, so you won’t get Labour types leaving for Brexit yet.

fine she won

also labour wouldn't that is a poor excuse

OOC: thanks.