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Rebirth of a Nation (OOC)

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The Resurgent Dream
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Rebirth of a Nation (OOC)

Postby The Resurgent Dream » Tue May 11, 2010 8:11 pm

Purpose

1. The primary purpose of this thread is to reintroduce my nation. It is not to announce any new changes. There are none. However, as there have been many changes in the past, I figured people could use an introduction to my nation as it now is.

2. To establish contact with people who I have not interacted with for some time or have not interacted with before.

Ways to Get Involved

Please post here first.

1. International events. In a few posts, I will begin dealing with nominally sovereign former Confederal Members. These are tiny territories, the largest have populations of four million or less, and they are still more or less dependent. However, nominal sovereignty makes it technically an area of international rather than domestic policy. I will also be working on foreign policy proper.

2. Make contact. You are free to interject a diplomatic first contact into the thread although you should let me know here or by TG first. A thread dedicated to the day-to-day governance of my country is the perfect place to play out the sort of establishment of relations which is normally limited to filling out a form in an embassy thread.

3. Tourists. You can play tourists traveling in my country.

4. Journalists. You can play journalists covering the events of the thread.

5. Trafficking. The fight against trafficking is potentially part of the thread and if you are a slaver state willing to violate the sovereignty of others or if your nation has a criminal element which does so, you might want to play the villain of the piece. Talk to me here or by TG first to avoid godmodding.

6. If you see another way to get involved that doesn't involve any godmods or wanking, feel free. It's relatively open.

Ground Rules

1. This is open to all tech and all types of sapient creatures. However, I will not acknowledge any use of special powers, psionics, magic, future-tech or whatever to control the minds of any of my people or subjugate them militarily. Fractal reality just makes any attempt to do so fail. Friendlies are also unable to upgrade or assist my technology. I mean to stay more or less modern tech.

2. No IC trolls. IC trolls are that category of nations which make glib or incessant genocide or slavery posts primarily for shock value, to insult others, to get attention, or for any other silly reason. I have seen scores of these over the last five years. I started on NS at a time when elf genocides were a daily occurrence from week old nations wanting to get ortilleried by Menelmacar. Menelmacar eventually adopted a policy of ignoring that non-sense and I am persuaded by that logic. I don't want to hear arguments about how it's not really trolling, the mods said it was okay, or whatever. If it's okay under the site rules, go make a thread. I don't want it in mine. This rule has nothing to do with the substance of your nation. I have roleplayed slavery and genocide myself, including a few posts dark enough to bother some other players. I won't be a hypocrite and nations which roleplay it in a challenging, engaging way which is not OOC dismissive of the victims' suffering are welcome. After all, great roleplayers like Amazonian Beasts, Iesus Christi, and Shattered Atlantis, all of whom I would be honored to have in my RP, play that sort of thing. Scandinvans, New Nicksyllvania, and others also do a decent job. Sorry to go on like this but I want this exclusion narrow. I don't want to scare off good roleplayers along with the bad.

3. No military attacks in this thread. If events in this thread lead to hostilities, I will be happy to make another, provided rules 1 and 2 are not being ignored.

4. Please post all questions and criticisms in this thread instead of telegramming. That way I don't have to answer similar TGs from a lot of people. If you can't think of reasons to get involved, I am happy to help. Except as otherwise noted, I want to be inclusive.
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Postby The Krieg Empire » Tue May 11, 2010 8:16 pm

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Postby Beneravia » Wed May 12, 2010 3:46 pm

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Head of State: Grand Duke Bartholomew van Wittendorf
Heads of Government: Grand Duke Bartholomew van Wittendorf and Prime Minister Jéan Claudé
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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Fri May 14, 2010 1:49 pm

To clarify, Jones is not beginning his government in the thread. He was already Prime Minister in Another Courtship Thread as well as every other thread I've done since July of last year. The thread is a bit introductory because I haven't done much since then and what I have done has shown little of the internal culture and politics of my nation. The possibility of relations with Ilek-Vaad discussed in that thread wasn't abandoned because of an inconsistency in government. It was offered by us and that offer has never been revoked or altered by us. In fact, it has never been reconsidered. The same is true of the offer we made in the first thread we did about it. That offer wasn't withdrawn because of any change of government. While governments and demographics have certainly changed since that first RP, none of them ever withdrew, altered, or even reconsidered that offer. I have told you IC and OOC than I am willing to normalize relations consistently and have never said, implied, or hinted at anything to the contrary in any post or telegram. So, while it is true that governments have changed a lot, these changes have had no direct effects on the ability or inability of Ilek-Vaad to have an embassy. The only reason one has not been established is your RPed unwillingness thus far to commit to such a course. Which is fine, that's how your nation works. But it has nothing to do with my changes in government. I have never roleplayed a government which required more for the establishment of embassies than technical red tape not usually even worthy roleplaying.

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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Tue May 18, 2010 10:10 pm

Elaborated on the rules in the first post.

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Postby The Krieg Empire » Tue May 18, 2010 10:12 pm

Just making sure you declared the IC thread open before I post.
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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Tue May 18, 2010 10:27 pm

Well, the edited rules do restrict that a little and I am about to edit the IC thread to reflect that. However, you are not an "IC troll" and are more than welcome to make diplomatic or economic contact, roleplay some tourists, roleplay some journalists, or do whatever else you think would contribute to the RP. Glad to have you!

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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Wed May 19, 2010 1:13 am

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There's the IC thread for those who missed it. I am working on a post for Excalbia which should be ready tomorrow. I can likely work anyone else in if they post before then. Sorry for the slow posting but it's a really busy week for me.

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Postby Ilek-Vaad » Wed May 19, 2010 6:06 am

The Resurgent Dream wrote:To clarify, Jones is not beginning his government in the thread. He was already Prime Minister in Another Courtship Thread as well as every other thread I've done since July of last year. The thread is a bit introductory because I haven't done much since then and what I have done has shown little of the internal culture and politics of my nation. The possibility of relations with Ilek-Vaad discussed in that thread wasn't abandoned because of an inconsistency in government. It was offered by us and that offer has never been revoked or altered by us. In fact, it has never been reconsidered. The same is true of the offer we made in the first thread we did about it. That offer wasn't withdrawn because of any change of government. While governments and demographics have certainly changed since that first RP, none of them ever withdrew, altered, or even reconsidered that offer. I have told you IC and OOC than I am willing to normalize relations consistently and have never said, implied, or hinted at anything to the contrary in any post or telegram. So, while it is true that governments have changed a lot, these changes have had no direct effects on the ability or inability of Ilek-Vaad to have an embassy. The only reason one has not been established is your RPed unwillingness thus far to commit to such a course. Which is fine, that's how your nation works. But it has nothing to do with my changes in government. I have never roleplayed a government which required more for the establishment of embassies than technical red tape not usually even worthy roleplaying.



Yes, the unwillingness of the Vaadians has been because of radical changes in government, the Vaadians are used to the Klatch where changing governments often arrest and/or kill ambassadors to show their strength against foreign powers.

It has made the Free Republic extra cautious. In the mind of a Vaadian a new government needs to recommit to relations in a fairly explicit manner for the Vaadians to actually take action. We do things different.

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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Wed May 19, 2010 6:45 am

Ilek-Vaad wrote:
The Resurgent Dream wrote:To clarify, Jones is not beginning his government in the thread. He was already Prime Minister in Another Courtship Thread as well as every other thread I've done since July of last year. The thread is a bit introductory because I haven't done much since then and what I have done has shown little of the internal culture and politics of my nation. The possibility of relations with Ilek-Vaad discussed in that thread wasn't abandoned because of an inconsistency in government. It was offered by us and that offer has never been revoked or altered by us. In fact, it has never been reconsidered. The same is true of the offer we made in the first thread we did about it. That offer wasn't withdrawn because of any change of government. While governments and demographics have certainly changed since that first RP, none of them ever withdrew, altered, or even reconsidered that offer. I have told you IC and OOC than I am willing to normalize relations consistently and have never said, implied, or hinted at anything to the contrary in any post or telegram. So, while it is true that governments have changed a lot, these changes have had no direct effects on the ability or inability of Ilek-Vaad to have an embassy. The only reason one has not been established is your RPed unwillingness thus far to commit to such a course. Which is fine, that's how your nation works. But it has nothing to do with my changes in government. I have never roleplayed a government which required more for the establishment of embassies than technical red tape not usually even worthy roleplaying.



Yes, the unwillingness of the Vaadians has been because of radical changes in government, the Vaadians are used to the Klatch where changing governments often arrest and/or kill ambassadors to show their strength against foreign powers.

It has made the Free Republic extra cautious. In the mind of a Vaadian a new government needs to recommit to relations in a fairly explicit manner for the Vaadians to actually take action. We do things different.


Okay. There is still not a new government since the last time you were here.

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Postby Ilek-Vaad » Wed May 19, 2010 6:50 am

The Resurgent Dream wrote:
Okay. There is still not a new government since the last time you were here.


Well, then we shouldn't have any problems then.

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Postby Shattered Atlantis » Wed May 19, 2010 3:50 pm

Always up to run some foreign-snatch ops. The nobles get so bored with Atlantean slaves these days :D

Anyway, what's the geography of the country? Coastline? If so, any shady ports I could sneak in and out of?
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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Thu May 20, 2010 11:21 am

Shattered Atlantis wrote:Always up to run some foreign-snatch ops. The nobles get so bored with Atlantean slaves these days :D

Anyway, what's the geography of the country? Coastline? If so, any shady ports I could sneak in and out of?


Hey, now. I didn't say you'd succeed. I don't expect any of my citizens to wind up being slaves in the end. If you do a good job, though, it might have to be settled diplomatically or (in a new thread) militarily instead of by law enforcement.

The country is largely islands and the heart of the country is a huge tropical island. I'm not sure what you would call shady but I doubt there are "shady" ports because ports are regulated and there are safe guards which prevent corruption.

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Postby Shattered Atlantis » Thu May 20, 2010 4:34 pm

Got it. I'm a bit busy right now, but I'll see what I can cook up.
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Postby The Resurgent Dream » Fri May 28, 2010 5:01 pm

Whenever you're ready.

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Postby Shattered Atlantis » Fri May 28, 2010 9:52 pm

Sorry, finals and the end of school took me away from NS. I may have to back out, depending on what else is on my RL, yet metaphorical, plate.
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The Resurgent Dream wrote:After all, great roleplayers like <snip> Shattered Atlantis, all of whom I would be honored to have in my RP

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Leader: High Baron Winfield II
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