south indian election and events (IC / invite only)

[Romextly]

The Stabilist Vita Campaign once again publicly asks to have a direct debate against Dinesh Sharma, emphasizing that they don’t want to have to debate through the lower-polling middle man in the Liberal-Social Democratic Coalition.

On the side, it’s also notable that they would be willing to discuss policy with Shrey Gupta as well.

Shrey accepts as there is some things that he agrees with the stabilizers.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

That is not what I mean by coalition.... Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_government

Thats... also what I’m talking about. It’s just the joining of two parties to form a government. It has little impact on elections and election polling. They don’t become the same party/same ticket, they just agree to work together as if they were one party after the election has occurred and the government needs to be formed.

Yes, I just wanted to make it clear that we're in a coalition because ZN doesn't seem to react.

[Corrington]

The Stabilist Vita Campaign once again publicly asks to have a direct debate against Dinesh Sharma, emphasizing that they don’t want to have to debate through the lower-polling middle man in the Liberal-Social Democratic Coalition.

On the side, it’s also notable that they would be willing to discuss policy with Shrey Gupta as well.

Shrey accepts as there is some things that he agrees with the stabilizers.

Yes, both want ties with the international community and support some of the same traditional Indian values. The main difference would be that while the Conservatives believe in free trade and stabilization by industry, the Stabilists believe in nationalizing industry and stabilizing South India by force.

The campaign will gladly debate with Gupta, as he is the top-polling candidate at the moment.

[Romextly]

Shrey accepts as there is some things that he agrees with the stabilizers.

Yes, both want ties with the international community and support some of the same traditional Indian values. The main difference would be that while the Conservatives believe in free trade and stabilization by industry, the Stabilists believe in nationalizing industry and stabilizing South India by force.

The campaign will gladly debate with Gupta, as he is the top-polling candidate at the moment.

Ooc: can we do this later or tomorrow. Cant do much ona phone

[Corrington]

Yes, both want ties with the international community and support some of the same traditional Indian values. The main difference would be that while the Conservatives believe in free trade and stabilization by industry, the Stabilists believe in nationalizing industry and stabilizing South India by force.

The campaign will gladly debate with Gupta, as he is the top-polling candidate at the moment.

Ooc: can we do this later or tomorrow. Cant do much ona phone

OOC: Ok, we can do it whenever’s best for you

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Zerghati starts building refugee centres, where they are treated much better than in the camps. The Kochi Police (made by Zerghati) foils another suicide bombing plot and raid a small, unnoticed IIS base in Kochi, arresting 25 criminals.

[Arvan Irawer]

The Stabilist Vita Campaign once again publicly asks to have a direct debate against Dinesh Sharma, emphasizing that they don’t want to have to debate through the lower-polling middle man in the Liberal-Social Democratic Coalition.

On the side, it’s also notable that they would be willing to discuss policy with Shrey Gupta as well.

Dinesh Sharma is willing to have a debate.

(OOC: What time zone are you?)

[Corrington]

The Stabilist Vita Campaign once again publicly asks to have a direct debate against Dinesh Sharma, emphasizing that they don’t want to have to debate through the lower-polling middle man in the Liberal-Social Democratic Coalition.

On the side, it’s also notable that they would be willing to discuss policy with Shrey Gupta as well.

Dinesh Sharma is willing to have a debate.

(OOC: What time zone are you?)

(OOC: MST)

Adhira Vita requests that the debate cover the economy, the stabilization of South India and the population demographics.

“Thank you for accepting our request, Mr. Sharma. I hope we can both remain civil and decent during this, as outbursts and harmful rhetoric only hurt our country in the long run, wouldn’t you agree?”

[Arvan Irawer]

(OOC: MST)

Adhira Vita requests that the debate cover the economy, the stabilization of South India and the population demographics.

“Thank you for accepting our request, Mr. Sharma. I hope we can both remain civil and decent during this, as outbursts and harmful rhetoric only hurt our country in the long run, wouldn’t you agree?”

(OOC: ok)

"Those topics sound fine, we do agree that we should both try to remain civil during the debate."

[Corrington]

(OOC: MST)

Adhira Vita requests that the debate cover the economy, the stabilization of South India and the population demographics.

“Thank you for accepting our request, Mr. Sharma. I hope we can both remain civil and decent during this, as outbursts and harmful rhetoric only hurt our country in the long run, wouldn’t you agree?”

(OOC: ok)

"Those topics sound fine, we do agree that we should both try to remain civil during the debate."

“Very good. Now, I’m aware that we’re of different stances on the economy, so I’ll outline my beliefs and then you can outline your own, and we can kind of go back-and-forth until the topic is exhausted. So, as a Stabilist I believe in the nationalization of industry. Not necessarily all industry, but enough industry to the point that it is a significant facet of my platform. I believe that industries such as education, healthcare, public transportation and sanitation should be nationalized so that these essential services are not run with the primary motive of profit in mind. A developing economy which is purely nationalized would not work, but I believe that if we nationalize these key industries, the main motives in running these industries can be maintained as motives in the best interests of the public.”

[Romextly]

OOC: I can finally debate

[Corrington]

OOC: I can finally debate

OOC: Ok, can we do it when I’m done w/ Arvan? I just don’t want it to get confusing. Unless all three of us are debating simultaneously as a sort of ‘top 3’ debate. I’m up for that if Arvan is)

[Romextly]

OOC: I can finally debate

OOC: Ok, can we do it when I’m done w/ Arvan? I just don’t want it to get confusing. Unless all three of us are debating simultaneously as a sort of ‘top 3’ debate. I’m up for that if Arvan is)

OOC: I'll jus wait for when you finish

[Corrington]

OOC: Ok, can we do it when I’m done w/ Arvan? I just don’t want it to get confusing. Unless all three of us are debating simultaneously as a sort of ‘top 3’ debate. I’m up for that if Arvan is)

OOC: I'll jus wait for when you finish

OOC: You sure?

[Romextly]

OOC: I'll jus wait for when you finish

OOC: You sure?

OOC: Yeah. I only got like 27 minutes left

[Arvan Irawer]

OOC: I can finally debate

OOC: Ok, can we do it when I’m done w/ Arvan? I just don’t want it to get confusing. Unless all three of us are debating simultaneously as a sort of ‘top 3’ debate. I’m up for that if Arvan is)

(OOC: top 3 debate is fine, sorry for the late reply I was stuck doing something. I think if we just write our opinions when we can, and then the next person makes a statement when they are next online. So that we don't all require to be online at the same time.)

IC:
"I believe in the nationalisation of all industry, at least at the beginning. We nationalise industry so that standards are set, and when certain industries (like manufacturing, goods transportation, construction, luxury goods shopping i.e. non-essential industries) are privatised the standards continue. Those would stay nationalised for two years.More essential industries would stay nationalised for longer like food shopping, clothes shopping. Those would stay nationalised for four or more years. Industries that would stay nationalised forever, or as long as I am in power, would be education, emergency services, power, water, post among others.

I would nationalised industry so that citizens have a chance to become employed, have sufficient wages to live a healthy life and buy the necessary items to live a healthy life.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Zerghati sends a message to his coalition, proposing that the liberals do the talking because everyone hates Zerghati for some reason and Zerghati will be in charge of making the things happen, as his party is very efficient in these things.

[Arvan Irawer]

Zerghati sends a message to his coalition, proposing that the liberals do the talking because everyone hates Zerghati for some reason and Zerghati will be in charge of making the things happen, as his party is very efficient in these things.

Excellent

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Zerghati sends a message to his coalition, proposing that the liberals do the talking because everyone hates Zerghati for some reason and Zerghati will be in charge of making the things happen, as his party is very efficient in these things.

Excellent

Zerghati kind of went underground, not appearing at rallies as before, but greatly increasing the capabilities of the Kochi Police and placing them in half the major cities in SI. They have stopped 57 attacks before they happened and stopped 122 while they were happening, with only 46 attacks succeeding in Kochi Police areas. He also started creating better quality roads, hospitals, ports, schools, clinics and universities.

[Zarnicovia nova]

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major stories:
zarnicovian novan victory
ZN troops have cut the IIS into two cells. They have freed over 11,000 towns and villages from the IIS and have foiled over 1,000 bombings. This is an obvious success.

conservative victory for how long?:
The conservatives are currently leading in polls but for how long? Recent data shows that areas being liberated from the IIS overwhelmingly support the social democrats. Is this a turning point? May the social democrats win or will the conservatives keep hold?
we will find out

two zarnicovian novan soldiers fight in Kochi's main street:
locals report that two zarnicovian novan soldiers got in a fistfight. Viewers say that it was over the fact that one of the soldiers 'insulted vaverfront.' reporters don't know which vaverfront he insulted.

[Corrington]

OOC: Ok, can we do it when I’m done w/ Arvan? I just don’t want it to get confusing. Unless all three of us are debating simultaneously as a sort of ‘top 3’ debate. I’m up for that if Arvan is)

(OOC: top 3 debate is fine, sorry for the late reply I was stuck doing something. I think if we just write our opinions when we can, and then the next person makes a statement when they are next online. So that we don't all require to be online at the same time.)

IC:
"I believe in the nationalisation of all industry, at least at the beginning. We nationalise industry so that standards are set, and when certain industries (like manufacturing, goods transportation, construction, luxury goods shopping i.e. non-essential industries) are privatised the standards continue. Those would stay nationalised for two years.More essential industries would stay nationalised for longer like food shopping, clothes shopping. Those would stay nationalised for four or more years. Industries that would stay nationalised forever, or as long as I am in power, would be education, emergency services, power, water, post among others.

I would nationalised industry so that citizens have a chance to become employed, have sufficient wages to live a healthy life and buy the necessary items to live a healthy life.

“Curious. It turns out that we’re more similar on this topic than I expected. Most members of your party, the Liberals, I thought they support complete privatization of all industry, no? I know that not everybody’s a party-liner, but I’d imagine that your drastic position might alienate some of your base. I’ve heard arguments from most Liberals and Conservatives that nationalization is inefficient and a form of overbearing government interference. I don’t agree of course, and I have my solution to those points, but I’m curious about what you may have to say to soothe your Liberal base, seeing as most of them don’t believe in any nationalization, and might be upset by your plans to nationalize all industry.”

(OOC: Check ZN’s description of the parties. Liberals believe in complete privatization, and Sharma just said he wants to nationalize all industry. This seems like it’s a little more serious than just a gaffe, because you went into a full on argument in defense of complete nationalization. It puts Sharma and Vita on closer terms, but in a way that Vita is closer to the Liberal policy than Sharma himself (since Vita only wants some nationalization), so if Sharma can’t defend this pretty significant deviancy from his own party’s platform, Vita might walk away with some Liberal support)

[Arvan Irawer]

“Curious. It turns out that we’re more similar on this topic than I expected. Most members of your party, the Liberals, I thought they support complete privatization of all industry, no? I know that not everybody’s a party-liner, but I’d imagine that your drastic position might alienate some of your base. I’ve heard arguments from most Liberals and Conservatives that nationalization is inefficient and a form of overbearing government interference. I don’t agree of course, and I have my solution to those points, but I’m curious about what you may have to say to soothe your Liberal base, seeing as most of them don’t believe in any nationalization, and might be upset by your plans to nationalize all industry.”

(OOC: Check ZN’s description of the parties. Liberals believe in complete privatization, and Sharma just said he wants to nationalize all industry. This seems like it’s a little more serious than just a gaffe, because you went into a full on argument in defense of complete nationalization. It puts Sharma and Vita on closer terms, but in a way that Vita is closer to the Liberal policy than Sharma himself (since Vita only wants some nationalization), so if Sharma can’t defend this pretty significant deviancy from his own party’s platform, Vita might walk away with some Liberal support)

(OOC: Just realised I was reading the stabilist description not the liberal description.)

IC:
"Ah, sorry it seems my assistant gave me Zerghati's speech" Sharma says while profusely sweating. "What I meant to say was that there should be some essentials should be nationalised. This would be schools, local transportation and emergency services among others. Some industry would be subsidised by the government, like power and water, but would be run by private companies. Industry such as shops, manufacturing, goods transportation among others will be privatised. Privatisation is much better than nationalisation because it will have competitive markets driving prices down and wages up, which in turn will be better for the people. Another reason is that it will build up relations between SI and other nations by allowing native companies to own and run SI companies.

I hope you can look past my earlier blunder and realise what is better for the country."

[Romextly]

“Curious. It turns out that we’re more similar on this topic than I expected. Most members of your party, the Liberals, I thought they support complete privatization of all industry, no? I know that not everybody’s a party-liner, but I’d imagine that your drastic position might alienate some of your base. I’ve heard arguments from most Liberals and Conservatives that nationalization is inefficient and a form of overbearing government interference. I don’t agree of course, and I have my solution to those points, but I’m curious about what you may have to say to soothe your Liberal base, seeing as most of them don’t believe in any nationalization, and might be upset by your plans to nationalize all industry.”

(OOC: Check ZN’s description of the parties. Liberals believe in complete privatization, and Sharma just said he wants to nationalize all industry. This seems like it’s a little more serious than just a gaffe, because you went into a full on argument in defense of complete nationalization. It puts Sharma and Vita on closer terms, but in a way that Vita is closer to the Liberal policy than Sharma himself (since Vita only wants some nationalization), so if Sharma can’t defend this pretty significant deviancy from his own party’s platform, Vita might walk away with some Liberal support)

(OOC: Just realised I was reading the stabilist description not the liberal description.)

IC:
"Ah, sorry it seems my assistant gave me Zerghati's speech" Sharma says while profusely sweating. "What I meant to say was that there should be some essentials should be nationalised. This would be schools, local transportation and emergency services among others. Some industry would be subsidised by the government, like power and water, but would be run by private companies. Industry such as shops, manufacturing, goods transportation among others will be privatised. Privatisation is much better than nationalisation because it will have competitive markets driving prices down and wages up, which in turn will be better for the people. Another reason is that it will build up relations between SI and other nations by allowing native companies to own and run SI companies.

I hope you can look past my earlier blunder and realise what is better for the country."

OOC: that blunder is gonna cost you

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Zerghati is seriously alarmed, and so orders the police to take up arms and to invade 3 rebel villages and one minor city/major town. The operation is a success, with 292 rebels captured, 80 killed and 117 injured and fleeing SI, and he quickly modernises the town and villages and helps the refugees by building a small city for them with 12,000 residents (called Shaant Sthaan, or Resting Place).

[Romextly]

Shrey has a massive counter insurgency by the militia that fred 6 towns with ease. 576 insurgents dead, 254 wounded, and 147 captured for the cost of 34 brave men, 205 injured and 13 captured. These are then given great attention fron foreign allies of Shrey who send aid in food, medical supplies and water