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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:43 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
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Obviously, but only on the nations who voted to condemn us.

You should probably just back down, you’re really alone in this situation, and now I’m here.


You were not present when the ICDN held their vote, so you are the one who is alone here.

Also, I advise whoever becomes sanctioned and is a member of the ICDN to think about changing your policies. Just condemning a nation or alliance because they didn’t consult you about their own foreign affairs that commenced prior to them joining the ICDN doesn’t mean that you can just expel them. Change the policy and we’ll remove the sanctions.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:43 am

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Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Speaking of which, are we still having that wedding? Also, we have good reasons to condemn the ICDN nations who voted to condemn the IDSF, because they not only misinterpreted our goals, but intervened in our affairs as well by condemning us.

Do you know who proposed the vote to condemn you? Me! ICDN condemnations hold little weight other than to just voice that a majority of the ICDN opposes what a member is doing or points out a breach of international law. You directly provoked and started a war with a nuclear power, just after giving the illusion that we had reached a consensus on negotiating a peaceful reunification. It looked deceptive, rash and opportunistic. We had more reasons to condemn you than you do to condemn us. Condemning the ISDF didn’t tangibly intervene in your affairs, condemnations don’t work like that. The condemnation was a vote of criticizing rash and irresponsible actions. Things probably would’ve ended disastrously if East Hun Chu was actually online.

And on the wedding, I believe it’ll happen so long as Southeast Marajarbia and Corrington maintain good relations. It’s meant to reinforce some unity between the two nations, which had been under great strain since recent events. The Royals May postpone it for a while just to make sure that the alliance and good relations with both IHS and SM holds through.

Hello Corrington, nice to see that you’re here too.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:44 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:You should probably just back down, you’re really alone in this situation, and now I’m here.


You were not present when the ICDN held their vote, so you are the one who is alone here.

When was this vote held?
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:44 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Obviously, but only on the nations who voted to condemn us.

You should probably just back down, you’re really alone in this situation, and now I’m here.

Alone? Not that alone... also, you've come, and?...
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:45 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:You should probably just back down, you’re really alone in this situation, and now I’m here.

Alone? Not that alone... also, you've come, and?...

And I’m like four times as strong as everyone else here.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:47 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Alone? Not that alone... also, you've come, and?...

And I’m like four times as strong as everyone else here.

Thank goodness there's eleven of us.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:49 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:And I’m like four times as strong as everyone else here.

Thank goodness there's eleven of us.

I’m apart of the ICDN, and I meant four times as strong as all of you put together.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:49 am

Corrington wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Speaking of which, are we still having that wedding? Also, we have good reasons to condemn the ICDN nations who voted to condemn the IDSF, because they not only misinterpreted our goals, but intervened in our affairs as well by condemning us.

Do you know who proposed the vote to condemn you? Me! ICDN condemnations hold little weight other than to just voice that a majority of the ICDN opposes what a member is doing or points out a breach of international law. You directly provoked and started a war with a nuclear power, just after giving the illusion that we had reached a consensus on negotiating a peaceful reunification. It looked deceptive, rash and opportunistic. We had more reasons to condemn you than you do to condemn us. Condemning the ISDF didn’t tangibly intervene in your affairs, condemnations don’t work like that. The condemnation was a vote of criticizing rash and irresponsible actions. Things probably would’ve ended disastrously if East Hun Chu was actually online.

And on the wedding, I believe it’ll happen so long as Southeast Marajarbia and Corrington maintain good relations. It’s meant to reinforce some unity between the two nations, which had been under great strain since recent events. The Royals May postpone it for a while just to make sure that the alliance and good relations with both IHS and SM holds through.


You should not have done that.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:51 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Corrington wrote:Do you know who proposed the vote to condemn you? Me! ICDN condemnations hold little weight other than to just voice that a majority of the ICDN opposes what a member is doing or points out a breach of international law. You directly provoked and started a war with a nuclear power, just after giving the illusion that we had reached a consensus on negotiating a peaceful reunification. It looked deceptive, rash and opportunistic. We had more reasons to condemn you than you do to condemn us. Condemning the ISDF didn’t tangibly intervene in your affairs, condemnations don’t work like that. The condemnation was a vote of criticizing rash and irresponsible actions. Things probably would’ve ended disastrously if East Hun Chu was actually online.

And on the wedding, I believe it’ll happen so long as Southeast Marajarbia and Corrington maintain good relations. It’s meant to reinforce some unity between the two nations, which had been under great strain since recent events. The Royals May postpone it for a while just to make sure that the alliance and good relations with both IHS and SM holds through.


You should not have done that.

Any act of war against him would be an act of war against me, I have been apart if ICDN for a very long time, before your humble little nation was formed, and I’m not gonna give up on them now.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:51 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Corrington wrote:Do you know who proposed the vote to condemn you? Me! ICDN condemnations hold little weight other than to just voice that a majority of the ICDN opposes what a member is doing or points out a breach of international law. You directly provoked and started a war with a nuclear power, just after giving the illusion that we had reached a consensus on negotiating a peaceful reunification. It looked deceptive, rash and opportunistic. We had more reasons to condemn you than you do to condemn us. Condemning the ISDF didn’t tangibly intervene in your affairs, condemnations don’t work like that. The condemnation was a vote of criticizing rash and irresponsible actions. Things probably would’ve ended disastrously if East Hun Chu was actually online.

And on the wedding, I believe it’ll happen so long as Southeast Marajarbia and Corrington maintain good relations. It’s meant to reinforce some unity between the two nations, which had been under great strain since recent events. The Royals May postpone it for a while just to make sure that the alliance and good relations with both IHS and SM holds through.


You should not have done that.

Oh, just forget it, no harm was done.
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Postby Corrington » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:52 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Corrington wrote:Do you know who proposed the vote to condemn you? Me! ICDN condemnations hold little weight other than to just voice that a majority of the ICDN opposes what a member is doing or points out a breach of international law. You directly provoked and started a war with a nuclear power, just after giving the illusion that we had reached a consensus on negotiating a peaceful reunification. It looked deceptive, rash and opportunistic. We had more reasons to condemn you than you do to condemn us. Condemning the ISDF didn’t tangibly intervene in your affairs, condemnations don’t work like that. The condemnation was a vote of criticizing rash and irresponsible actions. Things probably would’ve ended disastrously if East Hun Chu was actually online.

And on the wedding, I believe it’ll happen so long as Southeast Marajarbia and Corrington maintain good relations. It’s meant to reinforce some unity between the two nations, which had been under great strain since recent events. The Royals May postpone it for a while just to make sure that the alliance and good relations with both IHS and SM holds through.


You should not have done that.

You should not have stormed East Hun Chu while neither them or West Hun Chu were even awake. I clearly want what’s best for you and IHS as my budding allies, but that’s not going to be able to happen if you instigate wars and instigate tensions with my other allies through sanctions. So let’s lower the temperature, not get into a trade war, and sort this stuff out in Afrikaner Hong Kong.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:53 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Thank goodness there's eleven of us.

I’m apart of the ICDN, and I meant four times as strong as all of you put together.


So what? Even if you are, these affairs don’t matter to you at all. You can just leave, because you don’t belong here. You and the rest of the ICDN Can no longer influence Southeast Marajarbia, but we will vote on condemning nations that voted for condemnation. You are not on that list.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:55 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I’m apart of the ICDN, and I meant four times as strong as all of you put together.


So what? Even if you are, these affairs don’t matter to you at all. You can just leave, because you don’t belong here. You and the rest of the ICDN Can no longer influence Southeast Marajarbia, but we will vote on condemning nations that voted for condemnation. You are not on that list.

That’s very funny, but you see, I don’t always act on the behalf of the ICDN, and if you don’t play nicely, I will maybe do some unofficial business....
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:56 am

Corrington wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
You should not have done that.

You should not have stormed East Hun Chu while neither them or West Hun Chu were even awake. I clearly want what’s best for you and IHS as my budding allies, but that’s not going to be able to happen if you instigate wars and instigate tensions with my other allies through sanctions. So let’s lower the temperature, not get into a trade war, and sort this stuff out in Afrikaner Hong Kong.


I’m okay with sorting it out, just post the thread link. However, it is recommended that the ICDN change their policies when it comes to member nations dealing with conflicts prior to their entry into that alliance. Otherwise, it is a trade war.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:56 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
So what? Even if you are, these affairs don’t matter to you at all. You can just leave, because you don’t belong here. You and the rest of the ICDN Can no longer influence Southeast Marajarbia, but we will vote on condemning nations that voted for condemnation. You are not on that list.

That’s very funny, but you see, I don’t always act on the behalf of the ICDN, and if you don’t play nicely, I will maybe do some unofficial business....


Either way, you are not welcome here.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:58 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:That’s very funny, but you see, I don’t always act on the behalf of the ICDN, and if you don’t play nicely, I will maybe do some unofficial business....


Either way, you are not welcome here.

I don’t really care if I’m welcome or not, your country has low civil rights, and I don’t like that.
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Postby Corrington » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:58 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I’m apart of the ICDN, and I meant four times as strong as all of you put together.


So what? Even if you are, these affairs don’t matter to you at all. You can just leave, because you don’t belong here. You and the rest of the ICDN Can no longer influence Southeast Marajarbia, but we will vote on condemning nations that voted for condemnation. You are not on that list.

Look, you’re missing my point. Condemnations do very little, except maybe tick people off. When we condemned you, we didn’t send military or sanction you or do anything else. We wrote that we were disappointed and that we didn’t agree with what you were doing. We has grounds to do that, since you were a part of the ICDN, and we didn’t want anyone to mistake your actions as being representative of ours (especially if the nukes started flying).

So what I’m trying to say is, your condemnation will mean nothing to the ICDN. Condemnations are paper tigers. But if the ICDN actually feels insulted by it, then we don’t heal, the situation gets worse again, and they double down on trying to pressure you into ceasing and desisting. I don’t think any of us want that outcome.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:59 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Either way, you are not welcome here.

I don’t really care if I’m welcome or not, your country has low civil rights, and I don’t like that.


And what? The ICDN will condemn YOU if you go to war with me just unofficially.
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Postby Corrington » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:00 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Either way, you are not welcome here.

I don’t really care if I’m welcome or not, your country has low civil rights, and I don’t like that.

Don’t prove his point for him. Starting a war with them is just as bad as them starting a war with East Hun Chu. If you take some unofficial actions against them just because they have low civil rights, I’ll have you condemned on the same grounds I condemned Southeast Marajarbia with (ironically). So cool down, nobody’s invading anybody.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:02 am

Corrington wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I don’t really care if I’m welcome or not, your country has low civil rights, and I don’t like that.

Don’t prove his point for him. Starting a war with them is just as bad as them starting a war with East Hun Chu. If you take some unofficial actions against them just because they have low civil rights, I’ll have you condemned on the same grounds I condemned Southeast Marajarbia with (ironically). So cool down, nobody’s invading anybody.

How do I say this? I. Don’t. Care.
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I don’t really care if I’m welcome or not, your country has low civil rights, and I don’t like that.


And what? The ICDN will condemn YOU if you go to war with me just unofficially.

Oh no, I’m so scared!
That was sarcasm, besides, it isn’t war, it’s a liberation of your people, and your resources.
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Postby South Americanastan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:04 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Corrington wrote:Don’t prove his point for him. Starting a war with them is just as bad as them starting a war with East Hun Chu. If you take some unofficial actions against them just because they have low civil rights, I’ll have you condemned on the same grounds I condemned Southeast Marajarbia with (ironically). So cool down, nobody’s invading anybody.

How do I say this? I. Don’t. Care.
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
And what? The ICDN will condemn YOU if you go to war with me just unofficially.

Oh no, I’m so scared!
That was sarcasm, besides, it isn’t war, it’s a liberation of your people, and your resources.


I have Ludistan's back here, SM, if you don't calm down, a suspiscious amount of South Americanastanian weaponry is going to end up in your enemies hands.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:04 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:
Corrington wrote:Don’t prove his point for him. Starting a war with them is just as bad as them starting a war with East Hun Chu. If you take some unofficial actions against them just because they have low civil rights, I’ll have you condemned on the same grounds I condemned Southeast Marajarbia with (ironically). So cool down, nobody’s invading anybody.

How do I say this? I. Don’t. Care.
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
And what? The ICDN will condemn YOU if you go to war with me just unofficially.

Oh no, I’m so scared!
That was sarcasm, besides, it isn’t war, it’s a liberation of your people, and your resources.


A Socialist Liberation, I presume? Even if I have low civil rights, that is not a reason to “Liberate” the people unless a nation violates human rights.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:05 am

South Americanastan wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:How do I say this? I. Don’t. Care.

Oh no, I’m so scared!
That was sarcasm, besides, it isn’t war, it’s a liberation of your people, and your resources.


I have Ludistan's back here, SM, if you don't calm down, a suspiscious amount of South Americanastanian weaponry is going to end up in your enemies hands.


Oh, I am calm. He is the one complaining about my civil rights.
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Postby South Americanastan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:07 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:
I have Ludistan's back here, SM, if you don't calm down, a suspiscious amount of South Americanastanian weaponry is going to end up in your enemies hands.


Oh, I am calm. He is the one complaining about my civil rights.


You're the one who's trying to start wars with nuclear powers and is complaining about a, as Corrington put it "paper tiger" condemnation.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:08 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:How do I say this? I. Don’t. Care.

Oh no, I’m so scared!
That was sarcasm, besides, it isn’t war, it’s a liberation of your people, and your resources.


A Socialist Liberation, I presume? Even if I have low civil rights, that is not a reason to “Liberate” the people unless a nation violates human rights.

It’s not about reason, it’s about a show of power.
South Americanastan wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:How do I say this? I. Don’t. Care.

Oh no, I’m so scared!
That was sarcasm, besides, it isn’t war, it’s a liberation of your people, and your resources.


I have Ludistan's back here, SM, if you don't calm down, a suspiscious amount of South Americanastanian weaponry is going to end up in your enemies hands.

Thanks, but no thanks, I’ll take care of this one.
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