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Tribes Republic
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Tribes Republic » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:45 pm

The Frozen Forest wrote:
The Allied Tribe wrote:
Interestingly, I was also thinking of ultravioletists before reading Silvedania's post and your response. Maybe a religious motive is their main motive, and they want to take control of the entire nation?

A more interesting motive is establishing a democratic system in that nation, but using terrorist-level violence.

I have to agree that's a pretty interesting motivation, since so many terrorist groups try and establish dictatorships or theocracies. Terrorism in the name of democracy is a twist.


I think that could work like the terrorist group could have used the country's voting system to get into power and changed laws making everything that the country held dear illegal and start arresting innocent people for going against the new laws
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Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
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Napromdoh
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Postby Napromdoh » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:59 pm

I was originally thinking of using this as a nation, where a unitary parliamentary republic once existed, but a two-party system was created between the far-left Workers Party and far-right Fascist Party, leading to a civil war. When it ended, a military dictatorship took control, but its people want democracy again. However, I've decided to not do it. Is it possible for you to just make the occupied nation yourself and RP as it, since you're the OP?




Tribes Republic wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:I have to agree that's a pretty interesting motivation, since so many terrorist groups try and establish dictatorships or theocracies. Terrorism in the name of democracy is a twist.


I think that could work like the terrorist group could have used the country's voting system to get into power and changed laws making everything that the country held dear illegal and start arresting innocent people for going against the new laws

You're replying to a person who basically approved my idea, but decided my idea needed more work while thinking that this person's idea could? Your post deciding my idea needed more work came after this person's post too.

Also, I don't think that would be a good idea. If the terrorists just cheated democracy everybody's going to gangbang the terrorists. It also seems to be a misunderstanding (terrorism in the name of democracy does not mean terrorism ending democracy)

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Silvedania
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Postby Silvedania » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:03 pm

Tribes Republic wrote:
The Frozen Forest wrote:I have to agree that's a pretty interesting motivation, since so many terrorist groups try and establish dictatorships or theocracies. Terrorism in the name of democracy is a twist.


I think that could work like the terrorist group could have used the country's voting system to get into power and changed laws making everything that the country held dear illegal and start arresting innocent people for going against the new laws

And the terrorist group is also the Violetist Nationalist Party.
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Mevraq
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Postby Mevraq » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm

The issue with making the Ultra-Violetists the terrorists is that we'd get almost nobody to support them.

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The Allied Tribe
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:14 pm

Mevraq wrote:The issue with making the Ultra-Violetists the terrorists is that we'd get almost nobody to support them.


Yeah. Silvedania's ignorance isn't helping, but at least it's just a distraction.
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Tribes Republic
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Postby Tribes Republic » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:19 pm

Napromdoh wrote:I was originally thinking of using this as a nation, where a unitary parliamentary republic once existed, but a two-party system was created between the far-left Workers Party and far-right Fascist Party, leading to a civil war. When it ended, a military dictatorship took control, but its people want democracy again. However, I've decided to not do it. Is it possible for you to just make the occupied nation yourself and RP as it, since you're the OP?




Tribes Republic wrote:
I think that could work like the terrorist group could have used the country's voting system to get into power and changed laws making everything that the country held dear illegal and start arresting innocent people for going against the new laws

You're replying to a person who basically approved my idea, but decided my idea needed more work while thinking that this person's idea could? Your post deciding my idea needed more work came after this person's post too.

Also, I don't think that would be a good idea. If the terrorists just cheated democracy everybody's going to gangbang the terrorists. It also seems to be a misunderstanding (terrorism in the name of democracy does not mean terrorism ending democracy)


That's why I want to plan it out first also I did reply to your post but your is good. Also if I RP as the nation occupied I could just continue my other RP where my nation's High Court has shut down as I solo RP'd up to a point where the Prime Secretary of my nation is running for Principal Chief and his friend is running for Prime Secretary both are racist towards non-tribal people in the colony and if I do that then I would make it so he wins and then invades another nation claiming to avenge the wrongs that the nation had done to The Colony.

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Nation Leader: Principal Chief Giltra Hurid
WA Ambassador: Leui Henri
Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
RP Population: 64.1 Million(UK Pop as of 2013)
Nation Tech: PT, MT, PMT

My Political Compass
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

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SouthCarolina
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Postby SouthCarolina » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:00 pm

I join on terrorist side I’m very corrupt
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Sword Island
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Founded: Dec 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Sword Island » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:03 pm

Sign me up!
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New Medica
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Medica » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:15 pm

I want to be on the liberating side but on a humanitarian level focusing on medical (kind of like the UN peacekeepers)

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The Pirotian Republic
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Founded: Apr 15, 2020
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Postby The Pirotian Republic » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:42 pm

How would ones nation sign up?
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Tribes Republic
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Postby Tribes Republic » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:47 pm

SouthCarolina wrote:I join on terrorist side I’m very corrupt

Sword Island wrote:Sign me up!

New Medica wrote:I want to be on the liberating side but on a humanitarian level focusing on medical (kind of like the UN peacekeepers)

The Pirotian Republic wrote:How would ones nation sign up?


While I'm glad that people are interested but I would like a discussion of ideas as to the groups motives and the overall story of the RP before I start the sign up phase for the RP, but as right now everyone who currently replied to this Thread is involved and signed up already but it will be finalized when we finish the discussion on the overall story of the RP.

I will suggest that the group's motives are that they have used the occupied nation's election laws to gain power and after that they slowly changed the laws to benefit their group's religious/racial beliefs while keeping all of their actions as tame as possible so not to incite an incident with the world or other nations it's not until there's leaked documents that show the actions of the group that has been in power but the group denies it as "fake news" and say it's made up to make them look bad to which they invited international inspectors into their "nation" to show them that what's in the document is false.
Nation Leader: Principal Chief Giltra Hurid
WA Ambassador: Leui Henri
Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
RP Population: 64.1 Million(UK Pop as of 2013)
Nation Tech: PT, MT, PMT

My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

This is Bunny:
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The powerful lands of America
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Founded: Dec 28, 2020
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Postby The powerful lands of America » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:50 pm

Tribes Republic wrote:
SouthCarolina wrote:I join on terrorist side I’m very corrupt

Sword Island wrote:Sign me up!

New Medica wrote:I want to be on the liberating side but on a humanitarian level focusing on medical (kind of like the UN peacekeepers)

The Pirotian Republic wrote:How would ones nation sign up?


While I'm glad that people are interested but I would like a discussion of ideas as to the groups motives and the overall story of the RP before I start the sign up phase for the RP, but as right now everyone who currently replied to this Thread is involved and signed up already but it will be finalized when we finish the discussion on the overall story of the RP.

I will suggest that the group's motives are that they have used the occupied nation's election laws to gain power and after that they slowly changed the laws to benefit their group's religious/racial beliefs while keeping all of their actions as tame as possible so not to incite an incident with the world or other nations it's not until there's leaked documents that show the actions of the group that has been in power but the group denies it as "fake news" and say it's made up to make them look bad to which they invited international inspectors into their "nation" to show them that what's in the document is false.
ill just be the side thats more moral.

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Penguinya
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Postby Penguinya » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:52 pm

I’d like to join, but I don’t have the time.

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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:36 pm

I would like to join.
P.S. What side of the political spectrum are the terrorists on because that will determine which side im on
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Tribes Republic
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Postby Tribes Republic » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:34 pm

The powerful lands of America wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:



While I'm glad that people are interested but I would like a discussion of ideas as to the groups motives and the overall story of the RP before I start the sign up phase for the RP, but as right now everyone who currently replied to this Thread is involved and signed up already but it will be finalized when we finish the discussion on the overall story of the RP.

I will suggest that the group's motives are that they have used the occupied nation's election laws to gain power and after that they slowly changed the laws to benefit their group's religious/racial beliefs while keeping all of their actions as tame as possible so not to incite an incident with the world or other nations it's not until there's leaked documents that show the actions of the group that has been in power but the group denies it as "fake news" and say it's made up to make them look bad to which they invited international inspectors into their "nation" to show them that what's in the document is false.
ill just be the side thats more moral.


Morals are subjective universal ethics are very complex but that can be discussed when we talk about the terrorist group's motives which no one seems to be adding to that discussion
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WA Ambassador: Leui Henri
Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
RP Population: 64.1 Million(UK Pop as of 2013)
Nation Tech: PT, MT, PMT

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Esthe
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Postby Esthe » Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:27 pm

I think I want to attack for a change. I’m tired of always defending in war related role play off NS.
And now my life has changed in oh so many ways
My independence seems to vanish in the haze

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Postby Earth Allies » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:38 am

Time to do on the anti-Terrorists boys...
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Tribes Republic
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Postby Tribes Republic » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:21 pm

still waiting on ideas for the groups motives for doing what they're doing I don't want the group to be a stereotypical terrorist group I want them to be complex and to make people think about why people turn to terrorism like what action made them join this group and why to they support the actions of it.
Nation Leader: Principal Chief Giltra Hurid
WA Ambassador: Leui Henri
Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
RP Population: 64.1 Million(UK Pop as of 2013)
Nation Tech: PT, MT, PMT

My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

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Postby The Frozen Forest » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:38 pm

Tribes Republic wrote:still waiting on ideas for the groups motives for doing what they're doing I don't want the group to be a stereotypical terrorist group I want them to be complex and to make people think about why people turn to terrorism like what action made them join this group and why to they support the actions of it.

Well since this is a multinational terrorist organization it probably isn't wise to base them along ethnic or religious lines. Following those two motivations, the third most popular unifying force for a terrorist group is ideology. Nationalistic terrorist groups can be ruled out because they wouldn't be multinational for the most part. Socialist/Communist terrorist groups are pretty overdone.

How about a group dedicated to the unification of the planet under a single government? They could see nations based around ethnicity or democratic values as hindering human progress and instead wish for a government dedicated to all peoples, a true utopia for the masses. But why would any government support this group? Because they could act as a tool for destabilizing their rivals.
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Postby Tribes Republic » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:49 am

The Frozen Forest wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:still waiting on ideas for the groups motives for doing what they're doing I don't want the group to be a stereotypical terrorist group I want them to be complex and to make people think about why people turn to terrorism like what action made them join this group and why to they support the actions of it.

Well since this is a multinational terrorist organization it probably isn't wise to base them along ethnic or religious lines. Following those two motivations, the third most popular unifying force for a terrorist group is ideology. Nationalistic terrorist groups can be ruled out because they wouldn't be multinational for the most part. Socialist/Communist terrorist groups are pretty overdone.

How about a group dedicated to the unification of the planet under a single government? They could see nations based around ethnicity or democratic values as hindering human progress and instead wish for a government dedicated to all peoples, a true utopia for the masses. But why would any government support this group? Because they could act as a tool for destabilizing their rivals.


I didn't rule out that the group wasn't multinational but if people want them to be then they can be or they can be a group from within the occupied that has extreme views on how the country should be run or the county's past history of being invaded has the native population of the country getting together as much support as they can by saying that if someone is at least 80% of "X" race/ethnicity then they're apart of the group. While don't want the group to win I would like the starting point to be a 9-11 type event that starts off a global "war on terror" to try and get a discussion going on how the "war on terror" has created more terrorists instead of less.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:51 pm

Hey are we still doing this? This place has been awfully quiet
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Tribes Republic
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Postby Tribes Republic » Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:05 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Hey are we still doing this? This place has been awfully quiet

Yes, but no one is presenting any ideas for the motives of the terrorist group as I want the group to have a motive that's good but their way of achieving it is extreme like they want only a certain group of people to be able to benefit or of a certain religion to benefit
Nation Leader: Principal Chief Giltra Hurid
WA Ambassador: Leui Henri
Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
RP Population: 64.1 Million(UK Pop as of 2013)
Nation Tech: PT, MT, PMT

My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

This is Bunny:
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(")_(") Copy and paste Bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.
(5)At War
(4)Troops On Standby
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(2)High Alert
(1)Peace
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The Allied Tribe
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Postby The Allied Tribe » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:19 am

Tribes Republic wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Hey are we still doing this? This place has been awfully quiet

Yes, but no one is presenting any ideas for the motives of the terrorist group as I want the group to have a motive that's good but their way of achieving it is extreme like they want only a certain group of people to be able to benefit or of a certain religion to benefit


Achieving in extreme ways usually means they are using very violent tactics. Please make sure you know what the word/words mean before using it/them.

Anyways, why don't we just give up on this? The motives you want for this terrorist group will make things boring since they probably won't have any allies. Even if they do they will have far fewer allies than the coalition.
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The Democratic Republic of Nytoa
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Postby The Democratic Republic of Nytoa » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:56 am

Could i join anti terrosrists
Does NOT fully represent my views

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Tribes Republic
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Postby Tribes Republic » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:17 pm

The Allied Tribe wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:Yes, but no one is presenting any ideas for the motives of the terrorist group as I want the group to have a motive that's good but their way of achieving it is extreme like they want only a certain group of people to be able to benefit or of a certain religion to benefit


Achieving in extreme ways usually means they are using very violent tactics. Please make sure you know what the word/words mean before using it/them.

Anyways, why don't we just give up on this? The motives you want for this terrorist group will make things boring since they probably won't have any allies. Even if they do they will have far fewer allies than the coalition.

People do want to join the terrorist's side but I want the initial occupation of the country to end quick but the ideals of the group will persist creating a "war on terror" situation where the allied nations are trying to make it so terrorism is wiped out but every action keep creating new allies for the terrorist group making it easier for them to retake control so the anti-terrorist side would be working to prevent that
Nation Leader: Principal Chief Giltra Hurid
WA Ambassador: Leui Henri
Nation Name: The Colony of Tribes Republic
RP Population: 64.1 Million(UK Pop as of 2013)
Nation Tech: PT, MT, PMT

My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

This is Bunny:
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(2)High Alert
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