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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:43 pm

Necroagro wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Here you go:

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Everything that isn't grey is (Iberia and Italy theoretically) Insaanistan.

Quick question before I post, what do the different colors mean?

Nothing right now. They used to be differing factions in Insaanistan.
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Postby Al-Musafakun » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:10 am

Langenia wrote:
Necroagro wrote:Oops big mistake I thought Insaanistan stretched from Pakistan to Morocco. Is there really no Maps? I’m a visual.


Here you go:

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Everything that isn't grey is (Iberia and Italy theoretically) Insaanistan.


Looking at the map a bit further, I realise we’ve forgotten to consider the islands that belong to Portugal, Spain, Italy and France. We’re liberating those too, I am certain, but I’ll bring this up with the others.
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Postby The Selkie » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:19 am

Al-Musafakun wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Here you go:

Image


Everything that isn't grey is (Iberia and Italy theoretically) Insaanistan.


Looking at the map a bit further, I realise we’ve forgotten to consider the islands that belong to Portugal, Spain, Italy and France. We’re liberating those too, I am certain, but I’ll bring this up with the others.


And I merrily steamed past Corsica without a care in the world under the assumption it was still French... (please imagine one of those sweatdrop-emojis here)
Who wants to take care of the Atlantic Islands? I'd volunteer for Cape Verde and release it into independence, if no one minds.
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Postby Al-Musafakun » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:30 am

The Selkie wrote:
Al-Musafakun wrote:
Looking at the map a bit further, I realise we’ve forgotten to consider the islands that belong to Portugal, Spain, Italy and France. We’re liberating those too, I am certain, but I’ll bring this up with the others.


And I merrily steamed past Corsica without a care in the world under the assumption it was still French... (please imagine one of those sweatdrop-emojis here)
Who wants to take care of the Atlantic Islands? I'd volunteer for Cape Verde and release it into independence, if no one minds.


I’m of the mind to ask for Pantelleria, the island to the northwest of Malta. I could use it as a trading and supply hub for Almofakun merchants or as a place of solitude for Musafakic equivalent of monks/nuns, and for general religious practice.
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Postby The Selkie » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:41 am

Al-Musafakun wrote:
The Selkie wrote:
And I merrily steamed past Corsica without a care in the world under the assumption it was still French... (please imagine one of those sweatdrop-emojis here)
Who wants to take care of the Atlantic Islands? I'd volunteer for Cape Verde and release it into independence, if no one minds.


I’m of the mind to ask for Pantelleria, the island to the northwest of Malta. I could use it as a trading and supply hub for Almofakun merchants or as a place of solitude for Musafakic equivalent of monks/nuns, and for general religious practice.


While we are at it, what do we do with Malta itself? ABH, would Britannia want it back?
We might want to limit what we liberate in regards to the islands, though, before we go too nuts again. What was independent before or could be independent should be fair game, but islands close to the shore, for example the Kerkennah Islands or Djerba, should remain with Insaanistan, in my opinion (if we manage to capture and hold them, that is ; )).
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Postby Al-Musafakun » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:44 am

The Selkie wrote:
Al-Musafakun wrote:
I’m of the mind to ask for Pantelleria, the island to the northwest of Malta. I could use it as a trading and supply hub for Almofakun merchants or as a place of solitude for Musafakic equivalent of monks/nuns, and for general religious practice.


While we are at it, what do we do with Malta itself? ABH, would Britannia want it back?
We might want to limit what we liberate in regards to the islands, though, before we go too nuts again. What was independent before or could be independent should be fair game, but islands close to the shore, for example the Kerkennah Islands or Djerba, should remain with Insaanistan, in my opinion (if we manage to capture and hold them, that is ; )).


Aye, I’d suggest either independence or handing over to Britannia in regards to Malta. I think those islands that aren’t considered “European” aren’t required for liberation unless someone decides to do so anyway at their own wish. Whether or not they stay with Insaanistan or become autonomous/free financial/economic zones or something else, can be decided at the end of war conference. They could become their own Singapores maybe.
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Postby Lauzanne » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:52 am

Thinking about posting a list of demands to Insaanistan before going in full power

1) Insaanistan is to cease all hostilities and declare it will be ceasing fire. All other parties will also cease attacking Insaani forces.

2) within six months, all Insaani military and nationals will leave Italy and Iberia and return to Insaanistan.

3) all Insaani-descended Italians will be free to emigrate to Insaanistan

4) Within one year, free and fair elections will be held in Italy to determine their new government and ruler.
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Postby The Selkie » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:11 am

Al-Musafakun wrote:
The Selkie wrote:
While we are at it, what do we do with Malta itself? ABH, would Britannia want it back?
We might want to limit what we liberate in regards to the islands, though, before we go too nuts again. What was independent before or could be independent should be fair game, but islands close to the shore, for example the Kerkennah Islands or Djerba, should remain with Insaanistan, in my opinion (if we manage to capture and hold them, that is ; )).


Aye, I’d suggest either independence or handing over to Britannia in regards to Malta. I think those islands that aren’t considered “European” aren’t required for liberation unless someone decides to do so anyway at their own wish. Whether or not they stay with Insaanistan or become autonomous/free financial/economic zones or something else, can be decided at the end of war conference. They could become their own Singapores maybe.


Many, many little Singapores, which may or may not become as safe as Singapore. ; )
But yes, let's leave some of that decision for the Peace Conference.

Speaking of...
Lauzanne wrote:Thinking about posting a list of demands to Insaanistan before going in full power

1) Insaanistan is to cease all hostilities and declare it will be ceasing fire. All other parties will also cease attacking Insaani forces.

2) within six months, all Insaani military and nationals will leave Italy and Iberia and return to Insaanistan.

3) all Insaani-descended Italians will be free to emigrate to Insaanistan

4) Within one year, free and fair elections will be held in Italy to determine their new government and ruler.


Surprisingly reasonable, if you ask me. I'd add a small definition as to what Italy and especially Iberia means, in its current form, one could argue, that Ceuta would not have to be ceded. It could be something like:
    2) within six months, all Insaani military and nationals will leave Italy and Iberia and return to Insaanistan.
    2.1.) Italy is defined as the territory of the Republic of Italy on the 31st of December 1959.
    2.2.) Iberia is defined as the territories of Spain and Portugal on the 31st of December 1959.
Also, that leaves out demands concerning Gibraltar, Malta and Corsica (I'd imagine, that the French want that one back).
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:00 am

Al-Musafakun wrote:
The Selkie wrote:
While we are at it, what do we do with Malta itself? ABH, would Britannia want it back?
We might want to limit what we liberate in regards to the islands, though, before we go too nuts again. What was independent before or could be independent should be fair game, but islands close to the shore, for example the Kerkennah Islands or Djerba, should remain with Insaanistan, in my opinion (if we manage to capture and hold them, that is ; )).


Aye, I’d suggest either independence or handing over to Britannia in regards to Malta. I think those islands that aren’t considered “European” aren’t required for liberation unless someone decides to do so anyway at their own wish. Whether or not they stay with Insaanistan or become autonomous/free financial/economic zones or something else, can be decided at the end of war conference. They could become their own Singapores maybe.


Oh, I don’t own Malta. There are quite a few Insaanis there, though.
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Postby Lauzanne » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:01 am

The Selkie wrote:
Speaking of...
Lauzanne wrote:Thinking about posting a list of demands to Insaanistan before going in full power

1) Insaanistan is to cease all hostilities and declare it will be ceasing fire. All other parties will also cease attacking Insaani forces.

2) within six months, all Insaani military and nationals will leave Italy and Iberia and return to Insaanistan.

3) all Insaani-descended Italians will be free to emigrate to Insaanistan

4) Within one year, free and fair elections will be held in Italy to determine their new government and ruler.


Surprisingly reasonable, if you ask me. I'd add a small definition as to what Italy and especially Iberia means, in its current form, one could argue, that Ceuta would not have to be ceded. It could be something like:
    2) within six months, all Insaani military and nationals will leave Italy and Iberia and return to Insaanistan.
    2.1.) Italy is defined as the territory of the Republic of Italy on the 31st of December 1959.
    2.2.) Iberia is defined as the territories of Spain and Portugal on the 31st of December 1959.
Also, that leaves out demands concerning Gibraltar, Malta and Corsica (I'd imagine, that the French want that one back).


Oh, right. Not good at demands like this lol but yeah I can include those too if you wanna help me iron out the definitions and stuff
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:04 am

Lauzanne wrote:
The Selkie wrote:
Speaking of...


Surprisingly reasonable, if you ask me. I'd add a small definition as to what Italy and especially Iberia means, in its current form, one could argue, that Ceuta would not have to be ceded. It could be something like:
    2) within six months, all Insaani military and nationals will leave Italy and Iberia and return to Insaanistan.
    2.1.) Italy is defined as the territory of the Republic of Italy on the 31st of December 1959.
    2.2.) Iberia is defined as the territories of Spain and Portugal on the 31st of December 1959.
Also, that leaves out demands concerning Gibraltar, Malta and Corsica (I'd imagine, that the French want that one back).


Oh, right. Not good at demands like this lol but yeah I can include those too if you wanna help me iron out the definitions and stuff


What about Sicily?
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Postby The Selkie » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:06 am

Insaanistan wrote:Oh, I don’t own Malta. There are quite a few Insaanis there, though.


Then who does?

Lauzanne wrote:Oh, right. Not good at demands like this lol but yeah I can include those too if you wanna help me iron out the definitions and stuff


Sure.

Insaanistan wrote:What about Sicily?


Sicily is Italian.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:09 am

I will also being do a Live Aid style event for Insaanistan.

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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:18 am

The Selkie wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Oh, I don’t own Malta. There are quite a few Insaanis there, though.


Then who does?

Lauzanne wrote:Oh, right. Not good at demands like this lol but yeah I can include those too if you wanna help me iron out the definitions and stuff


Sure.

Insaanistan wrote:What about Sicily?


Sicily is Italian.


Malta owns Malta.

Yeah, but Sicily is the part of Italy where Insaanistan has the most support.
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Postby The Selkie » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:29 am

Insaanistan wrote:Malta owns Malta.

Yeah, but Sicily is the part of Italy where Insaanistan has the most support.


So, in your continuity Malta gained its independence and was not flooded by Insaanistani settlers?

Cool story, but the more important question is this: Who are the ones in Sicily proclaiming the support for Insaanistan? Are they native Italians, which I could not conceiveably imagine? Or are they descendants of the Muslim Settlers from the 50s and 60s?
If the latter is the case, then the support will vanish the moment the Insaanistanis are gone. And, if I am reading the room correctly, the repatriation of all Insaanistani nationals and of the Insaani-descended Italians willing to move to Insaanistan will be one of the demands made by the Coalition.
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Postby Lauzanne » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:30 am

Oh, and I should send some to the Maoists to stand down or else they'll get their teeth kicked in.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:33 am

The Selkie wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Malta owns Malta.

Yeah, but Sicily is the part of Italy where Insaanistan has the most support.


So, in your continuity Malta gained its independence and was not flooded by Insaanistani settlers?

Cool story, but the more important question is this: Who are the ones in Sicily proclaiming the support for Insaanistan? Are they native Italians, which I could not conceiveably imagine? Or are they descendants of the Muslim Settlers from the 50s and 60s?
If the latter is the case, then the support will vanish the moment the Insaanistanis are gone. And, if I am reading the room correctly, the repatriation of all Insaanistani nationals and of the Insaani-descended Italians willing to move to Insaanistan will be one of the demands made by the Coalition.

Yeah, Malta is independent and free and a trading partner.
Like the rest of Southern Italy, it’s a mix of both. It’s all not evenly dispersed across the island: Palermo supports Insaanistan, while Catania wants to be part of an independent Italy. Basically, South and West are for Insaanistan, North and East a free Italy.
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Postby Necroagro » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:49 am

Lauzanne wrote:Oh, and I should send some to the Maoists to stand down or else they'll get their teeth kicked in.



The Maoists do need to chill with their genocides though, if they don’t, they don’t have Necroagro’s support anymore.

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Postby Lauzanne » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:55 am

Necroagro wrote:
Lauzanne wrote:Oh, and I should send some to the Maoists to stand down or else they'll get their teeth kicked in.



The Maoists do need to chill with their genocides though, if they don’t, they don’t have Necroagro’s support anymore.


I wouldn't worry about it.
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Postby The Selkie » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:25 am

Insaanistan wrote:(How could you possibly get past Gibraltar?)


Because Langenia let them past.
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Postby Langenia » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:25 am

Yo Necroagro, how did you teleport past the Insaani fleet near the Horn of Africa? You'd have to fight them first, far away from any bases friendly to you.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:27 am

The Selkie wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:(How could you possibly get past Gibraltar?)


Because Langenia let them past.

Of course they did.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:27 am

Langenia wrote:Yo Necroagro, how did you teleport past the Insaani fleet near the Horn of Africa? You'd have to fight them first, far away from any bases friendly to you.

True.
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Postby Caribbean Confederation » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:44 am

Insaanistan wrote:(How could you possibly get past Gibraltar?)


Langenia let Caribbean and Polish-Prussian navy in. I specifically didn't post my naval actions for like 4 pages just in case you intended to countermand that -same as with Bari- but I mean, I do want to RP so I can't just keep waiting indefinitely lmao
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