Italian Independence War (OOC/Signup)

[Gongsi]

Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Gongsi
Nation Leader: Cheng Kianho
Commander of Military: General Zu Zihau
Who will you side with: Neither (neutral civilian relief/aid)
Will you be sending supplies: Yes
Military aid: Civilian vanguard and self-defensive only
Navy: 3 Fugin-class guided missile cruisers, 12 Gui-class landing ships
Naval Commander: Grand Admiral Yi Kuiyin
Land force (With unit names): 3rd Gongsi Expeditionary Division: 12,000 soldiers
Land Force commander: General Zu Zihau
Air force: Not present in this theater
Air Aid commander: N/A
Stated reason for your nations aid: To help the civilians caught in the midst of the war.
Real reason why: As stated, with the additional intent of appeasing the Islamic Socialist Front in Gongsi.
What does your government hope to gain from it: A decrease of civil unrest in Gongsi.

[Langenia]

The Pirotian Republic will agree to send 50 000 troops and 250 tanks to aid Insaanistan fight if Insaanistan will agree to the following conditions:

- Oil will be sold at A 33% discount to TPR for twenty years
- TPR in will invest 5 billion Pirotian Napole (about 1 billion USD) into rebuilding the nation upon winning the war
- Pirotian products entering Insaanistan will have a mere 3% tarrif
- Pirotian troops remain on Insaanistan soil for two years following victory, primarily as relief for citizens

How about 5% tarrifs?

I would think only let him rebuild and keep troops in Italy. The rest of Insaanistan is fine. Finally, reject the first request if you want. Personally I don't like it because I've helped you a lot and don't get an oil discount, but if you're willing go ahead.

[New Antarcticania]

Not if I get to him first

Guys guys!
If Mario’s captured, we ALL can feed him pineapple pizza.

All in favor to execute mario via force feeding him pineapple pizzas?

[Al-Musafakun]

If the Maoists are the only Italian rebel group then Italy hates occupation more than you previously stated. Going by this, a referendum would result in an independent Italy unless there’s Insaanistan pressure forcing Italy to remain under occupation. Realistically a conflict like this would have multiple rebel groups, but I suppose Caribbean and others can set up other Italian fronts.

[Caribbean Confederation]

If the Maoists are the only Italian rebel group then Italy hates occupation more than you previously stated. Going by this, a referendum would result in an independent Italy unless there’s Insaanistan pressure forcing Italy to remain under occupation. Realistically a conflict like this would have multiple rebel groups, but I suppose Caribbean and others can set up other Italian fronts.

If I can make a notable advance, I'm definitely going to allow for the creation of an Italian puppet state. Whether that Italy will be 'convinced' to unify with similarly-erected puppet states by other members depends on agreements made in OOC. Obviously though, I -as well as most others here who're not already on Insaanistan's camp- am not going to accept either a Maoist, genocidal Italy nor any plebiscite in Italy that includes the votes of Muslim/North African colonists (1st-3rd generation migrants obviously), at least at this time.

[Insaanistan]

If the Maoists are the only Italian rebel group then Italy hates occupation more than you previously stated. Going by this, a referendum would result in an independent Italy unless there’s Insaanistan pressure forcing Italy to remain under occupation. Realistically a conflict like this would have multiple rebel groups, but I suppose Caribbean and others can set up other Italian fronts.

Like I said, Italy is deeply divided. And like Romextly said, Italy once recently tried a Communist revolt and failed, so the northern parts of Italy are now Maoist.

[Insaanistan]

How about 5% tarrifs?

I would think only let him rebuild and keep troops in Italy. The rest of Insaanistan is fine. Finally, reject the first request if you want. Personally I don't like it because I've helped you a lot and don't get an oil discount, but if you're willing go ahead.

Oh, true.
You want an oil deal? I have enough money to deal with both.

[Insaanistan]

Guys guys!
If Mario’s captured, we ALL can feed him pineapple pizza.

All in favor to execute mario via force feeding him pineapple pizzas?

Aye!

[Insaanistan]

If the Maoists are the only Italian rebel group then Italy hates occupation more than you previously stated. Going by this, a referendum would result in an independent Italy unless there’s Insaanistan pressure forcing Italy to remain under occupation. Realistically a conflict like this would have multiple rebel groups, but I suppose Caribbean and others can set up other Italian fronts.

If I can make a notable advance, I'm definitely going to allow for the creation of an Italian puppet state. Whether that Italy will be 'convinced' to unify with similarly-erected puppet states by other members depends on agreements made in OOC. Obviously though, I -as well as most others here who're not already on Insaanistan's camp- am not going to accept either a Maoist, genocidal Italy nor any plebiscite in Italy that includes the votes of Muslim/North African colonists (1st-3rd generation migrants obviously), at least at this time.

Seems sorta sketchy to deny someone the right to vote on the future of the area they live in based off of ethnicity...

[Al-Musafakun]

If the Maoists are the only Italian rebel group then Italy hates occupation more than you previously stated. Going by this, a referendum would result in an independent Italy unless there’s Insaanistan pressure forcing Italy to remain under occupation. Realistically a conflict like this would have multiple rebel groups, but I suppose Caribbean and others can set up other Italian fronts.

If I can make a notable advance, I'm definitely going to allow for the creation of an Italian puppet state. Whether that Italy will be 'convinced' to unify with similarly-erected puppet states by other members depends on agreements made in OOC. Obviously though, I -as well as most others here who're not already on Insaanistan's camp- am not going to accept either a Maoist, genocidal Italy nor any plebiscite in Italy that includes the votes of Muslim/North African colonists (1st-3rd generation migrants obviously).

If I was joining with a modern state I’d do the same (or at least support your camp).

If the Maoists are the only Italian rebel group then Italy hates occupation more than you previously stated. Going by this, a referendum would result in an independent Italy unless there’s Insaanistan pressure forcing Italy to remain under occupation. Realistically a conflict like this would have multiple rebel groups, but I suppose Caribbean and others can set up other Italian fronts.

Like I said, Italy is deeply divided. And like Romextly said, Italy once recently tried a Communist revolt and failed, so the northern parts of Italy are now Maoist.

Well, I’m certain this’ll end well regardless. Multiple developed Europhone nations ganking on an occupation of sovereign Italian land, and a bunch of laughably genocidal upstarts, will result in a free Italy no doubt.

[Langenia]

I would think only let him rebuild and keep troops in Italy. The rest of Insaanistan is fine. Finally, reject the first request if you want. Personally I don't like it because I've helped you a lot and don't get an oil discount, but if you're willing go ahead.

Oh, true.
You want an oil deal? I have enough money to deal with both.

Gimme oil, before I go over to Rom's side and help Italian independence.

All in favor to execute mario via force feeding him pineapple pizzas?

Aye!

Aye!

[Al-Musafakun]

If I can make a notable advance, I'm definitely going to allow for the creation of an Italian puppet state. Whether that Italy will be 'convinced' to unify with similarly-erected puppet states by other members depends on agreements made in OOC. Obviously though, I -as well as most others here who're not already on Insaanistan's camp- am not going to accept either a Maoist, genocidal Italy nor any plebiscite in Italy that includes the votes of Muslim/North African colonists (1st-3rd generation migrants obviously), at least at this time.

Seems sorta sketchy to deny someone the right to vote on the future of the area they live in based off of ethnicity...

Settlers don’t deserve the same rights as the people they colonised, I’m with Caribbean on this

[Caribbean Confederation]

If I can make a notable advance, I'm definitely going to allow for the creation of an Italian puppet state. Whether that Italy will be 'convinced' to unify with similarly-erected puppet states by other members depends on agreements made in OOC. Obviously though, I -as well as most others here who're not already on Insaanistan's camp- am not going to accept either a Maoist, genocidal Italy nor any plebiscite in Italy that includes the votes of Muslim/North African colonists (1st-3rd generation migrants obviously), at least at this time.

Seems sorta sketchy to deny someone the right to vote on the future of the area they live in based off of ethnicity...

Since you're a big fan of making big brained comparisons, I'll tell you this: We didn't give the German settlers in Generalgovernment the right to vote on the future of the area they 'live in', for essentially the same reason.

[Insaanistan]

Seems sorta sketchy to deny someone the right to vote on the future of the area they live in based off of ethnicity...

Settlers don’t deserve the same rights as the people they colonised, I’m with Caribbean on this

Does EVERYONE actually think they’re colonists? Like, seriously?

[Insaanistan]

Seems sorta sketchy to deny someone the right to vote on the future of the area they live in based off of ethnicity...

Since you're a big fan of making big brained comparisons, I'll tell you this: We didn't give the German settlers in Generalgovernment the right to vote on the future of the area they 'live in', for essentially the same reason.

Okay, yeah I get that, but it’s a bit different than that.

[Insaanistan]

Oh, true.
You want an oil deal? I have enough money to deal with both.

Gimme oil, before I go over to Rom's side and help Italian independence.

Aye!

Aye!

Is the same discount as TPR okay?

[Al-Musafakun]

Settlers don’t deserve the same rights as the people they colonised, I’m with Caribbean on this

Does EVERYONE actually think they’re colonists? Like, seriously?

I mean, it’s pretty obvious IMO. The Mujahideen won’t care about the debate about it, nor do I really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Caribbean Confederation]

Settlers don’t deserve the same rights as the people they colonised, I’m with Caribbean on this

Does EVERYONE actually think they’re colonists? Like, seriously?

"They migrated en masse into a recently-integrated land and caused such a dramatic demographic shift that now more than a quarter of the entire population -as in, tens of millions- belongs to a religion that has literally had zero native members who converted while not at the end of a sword."

The correct term wouldn't be colonists in truth, because colonists is too benign.

[Insaanistan]

Does EVERYONE actually think they’re colonists? Like, seriously?

"They migrated en masse into a recently-integrated land and caused such a dramatic demographic shift that now more than a quarter of the entire population -as in, tens of millions- belongs to a religion that has literally had zero native members who converted while not at the end of a sword."

The correct term wouldn't be colonists in truth, because colonists is too benign.

So if native Americans began moving en masse to the Eastern United States, would it be colonization?
The whole reason most of them moved to Italy is they’re part Italian as their ancestors were Italians who were kicked out upon Catholic reconquest.

[Caribbean Confederation]

"They migrated en masse into a recently-integrated land and caused such a dramatic demographic shift that now more than a quarter of the entire population -as in, tens of millions- belongs to a religion that has literally had zero native members who converted while not at the end of a sword."

The correct term wouldn't be colonists in truth, because colonists is too benign.

So if native Americans began moving en masse to the Eastern United States, would it be colonization.
The whole reason most of them moved to Italy is they’re part Italian as their ancestors were Italians who were kicked out upon Catholic reconquest.

This is literally justifying Manifest Destiny based on Hyperborea-level bullshit lmao

[Insaanistan]

Does EVERYONE actually think they’re colonists? Like, seriously?

I mean, it’s pretty obvious IMO. The Mujahideen won’t care about the debate about it, nor do I really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hehe. Lol.

[Insaanistan]

So if native Americans began moving en masse to the Eastern United States, would it be colonization.
The whole reason most of them moved to Italy is they’re part Italian as their ancestors were Italians who were kicked out upon Catholic reconquest.

This is literally justifying Manifest Destiny based on Hyperborea-level bullshit lmao

I’m pretty sure this is the literal opposite of Manifest Destiny.

[The Pirotian Republic]

Nation Name: The Pirotian Republic
Nation Leader: Carl von Ottwick
Commander of Military: John Doe
Who will you side with: Insaanistan
Will you be sending supplies: Only upon the end of war
Military aid: 50 000 Pirotian troops and 250 tanks
Navy: PRS Commando, PRS Thunderbolt, and PRS Tugsten
Naval Commander: Victor Greedo
Land force (With unit names): Pirotian Armed Forces (12th Army, 14th Army, and 2nd Armoured Corps)
Land Force commander: Abed Nashir
Air force: NA
Air Aid commander: Hourly airdrop of food, ammunition, weapons, and Playboy magazines
Stated reason for your nations aid: To protect democracy
Real reason why: Oil
What does your government hope to gain from it: An economic partner, economic growth, and oil

[Al-Musafakun]

"They migrated en masse into a recently-integrated land and caused such a dramatic demographic shift that now more than a quarter of the entire population -as in, tens of millions- belongs to a religion that has literally had zero native members who converted while not at the end of a sword."

The correct term wouldn't be colonists in truth, because colonists is too benign.

So if native Americans began moving en masse to the Eastern United States, would it be colonization?
The whole reason most of them moved to Italy is they’re part Italian as their ancestors were Italians who were kicked out upon Catholic reconquest.

Ah yes, ancestry with literally no modern relatives, familial connections nor stolen property, instead reclaiming Muslim lebensraum. Gotcha.

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

All of you, quit the politics. I just want to have Gunslinger Girl insurgents once Selks is unbanned.