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Cossack Peoples
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Founded: Jul 11, 2019
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:37 pm

Bolslania wrote:I want to point out that the Foreign Legion is responsible for having bases all over the world, and probably wouldn't need to use the Cossack airbase to fly in its supplies.

So where were the Bolslanians when the Kupferlands were being bombarded to shit? Or when insurgents literally rose up in the Richting Atoll and threw out most of the foreigners?

I kinda disagree that you suddenly own the only airfield in the Richting Atoll, despite when the FRCP & Co. indirectly control the islands.
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Bolslania
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Postby Bolslania » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:48 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:
Bolslania wrote:I want to point out that the Foreign Legion is responsible for having bases all over the world, and probably wouldn't need to use the Cossack airbase to fly in its supplies.

So where were the Bolslanians when the Kupferlands were being bombarded to shit? Or when insurgents literally rose up in the Richting Atoll and threw out most of the foreigners?

I kinda disagree that you suddenly own the only airfield in the Richting Atoll, despite when the FRCP & Co. indirectly control the islands.


I wasn't written into the OP is why I wasn't there for the insurgent uprising.

Am I to understand that it is canon that the airfield the Foreign Legion is operating from is owned by someone else?

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Cossack Peoples
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:02 pm

Bolslania wrote:
Cossack Peoples wrote:So where were the Bolslanians when the Kupferlands were being bombarded to shit? Or when insurgents literally rose up in the Richting Atoll and threw out most of the foreigners?

I kinda disagree that you suddenly own the only airfield in the Richting Atoll, despite when the FRCP & Co. indirectly control the islands.


I wasn't written into the OP is why I wasn't there for the insurgent uprising.

Am I to understand that it is canon that the airfield the Foreign Legion is operating from is owned by someone else?

As initially implied by Trenaka, there was really only one airbase on the Richting Atoll. The treaty gave the airbase to the island, who through defense treaties, basically lent it to us. What i originally thought of your posts of shipping supplies in was that you were just using the airfield-- which is understandable, and we'd likely allow relief supplies and civilian travel to come in (with our consent). But as the Richting Atoll, as stipulated by the treaty, gained access to all military sites, you'd need their consent to even get a military base (of which are in short supply in that small an island chain), and their "consent" is effectively owned by our bribes.

What I'm saying is that I thought you were just using our airfield with our permission.

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Bolslania
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Postby Bolslania » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:05 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:
Bolslania wrote:
I wasn't written into the OP is why I wasn't there for the insurgent uprising.

Am I to understand that it is canon that the airfield the Foreign Legion is operating from is owned by someone else?

As initially implied by Trenaka, there was really only one airbase on the Richting Atoll. The treaty gave the airbase to the island, who through defense treaties, basically lent it to us. What i originally thought of your posts of shipping supplies in was that you were just using the airfield-- which is understandable, and we'd likely allow relief supplies and civilian travel to come in (with our consent). But as the Richting Atoll, as stipulated by the treaty, gained access to all military sites, you'd need their consent to even get a military base (of which are in short supply in that small an island chain), and their "consent" is effectively owned by our bribes.

What I'm saying is that I thought you were just using our airfield with our permission.



Ah ok

I thought I had already received permission to have some soldiers there. But if that isn't the case we can work that out IC-ly

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Palmyrion
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Founded: Mar 04, 2015
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Postby Palmyrion » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:15 pm

Guys, how would the local government take to a charity group focused on outreach and support for sex workers?
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Dernel
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Founded: Oct 21, 2019
Corporate Police State

Postby Dernel » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:17 pm

Palmyrion wrote:Guys, how would the local government take to a charity group focused on outreach and support for sex workers?

Depends on the outreach and support
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Cossack Peoples
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:12 pm

Palmyrion, I don't think the processes of PIEDSG are a public matter-- even so, I don't think they would paint their action as "anti-subversion"-- it'd likely be painted more of a security measure. If the issue was even being discussed at that moment, it wouldn't be open for all to see. In fact, I deliberately left the course of those laws vague so that Crysuko or Dernel, who make up the rest of the advisory board save for NPCs, could sign their agreement or refusal. The laws wouldn't come into effect until a tad bit after then.

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Palmyrion
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Postby Palmyrion » Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:20 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:Palmyrion, I don't think the processes of PIEDSG are a public matter-- even so, I don't think they would paint their action as "anti-subversion"-- it'd likely be painted more of a security measure. If the issue was even being discussed at that moment, it wouldn't be open for all to see. In fact, I deliberately left the course of those laws vague so that Crysuko or Dernel, who make up the rest of the advisory board save for NPCs, could sign their agreement or refusal. The laws wouldn't come into effect until a tad bit after then.

Point taken. However, once a "security measure" law was created, wouldn't news of the new law spread like wildfire?

Also, Rear Admiral Fedelin being a well-seasoned admiral of the Palmyrian Navy would expect the PIEDSG to enact such laws considering the recent events: us sending a notSR-71 into the islands' airspace, and conducting commerce escort operations too uncomfortably close to the islands. His train of thought in general is, we just kicked the hornet's nest, what would the hornets do next?
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:48 am

I know i'm being slow to act here, but the implication is that the naval garrison has grown complacent, and needs to be shaken out of it's funk before doing anything serious. also, 3v1 would be a bit much.
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The Crowned Republic
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Founded: Feb 14, 2021
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Postby The Crowned Republic » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:22 am

I may be checking in a little late, but is this RP still a go?

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Cossack Peoples
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Founded: Jul 11, 2019
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:40 pm

Yes, I just need to write up big boingo post and couldn't get to it over the weekend.

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Dernel
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Founded: Oct 21, 2019
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Postby Dernel » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:04 pm

The Crowned Republic wrote:I may be checking in a little late, but is this RP still a go?

Mainly waiting for Palmyrian to stop crying from entering into a 5v1, and write their post in response to it going from a 3v1, to a 5v1. I feel I may be jinxing it as the last war for these islands held a similar scenario, but its worth saying.
(last war was a 14v3, in which FRCP, Crysuko, and I beat 14 other nations for the islands we are currently dealing with. A few nations made jokes of our side getting dominated, but... well... you see how that went. Which is why i bring up the idea of jinxing it)
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Palmyrion
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Postby Palmyrion » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:43 pm

Dernel wrote:
The Crowned Republic wrote:I may be checking in a little late, but is this RP still a go?

Mainly waiting for Palmyrian to stop crying from entering into a 5v1, and write their post in response to it going from a 3v1, to a 5v1. I feel I may be jinxing it as the last war for these islands held a similar scenario, but its worth saying.
(last war was a 14v3, in which FRCP, Crysuko, and I beat 14 other nations for the islands we are currently dealing with. A few nations made jokes of our side getting dominated, but... well... you see how that went. Which is why i bring up the idea of jinxing it)

Man I'm just busy finding excuses why we scrambled a BARCAP lol
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Cossack Peoples
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:55 am

I think it's important to establish and clarify some things going forward:
  • Bolslania, what exactly is our status with your troops on the island?
  • The Crowned Republic , I feel like I don't exactly know what you're doing; from my initial assumption I thought you were some kind of exploration fleet from a new world, but now I'm just not sure how you're playing into all this-- could you just help to clear that up?
  • Palmyrion, are you actually intending on invading?

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Bolslania
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Postby Bolslania » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:56 am

Cossack Peoples wrote:I think it's important to establish and clarify some things going forward:
  • Bolslania, what exactly is our status with your troops on the island?
  • The Crowned Republic , I feel like I don't exactly know what you're doing; from my initial assumption I thought you were some kind of exploration fleet from a new world, but now I'm just not sure how you're playing into all this-- could you just help to clear that up?
  • Palmyrion, are you actually intending on invading?


I have troops stationed at an airbase to protect the humanitarian aid aircraft. In terms of ROE they are mostly a security force to help defend the island should it come under attack. Same with naval vessels. About the specific situation with the airbase you and I still need to hash that out. If there is like some bribe fee that I need to pay or something lemme know

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Palmyrion
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Postby Palmyrion » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:38 am

Cossack Peoples wrote:I think it's important to establish and clarify some things going forward:
  • Bolslania, what exactly is our status with your troops on the island?
  • The Crowned Republic , I feel like I don't exactly know what you're doing; from my initial assumption I thought you were some kind of exploration fleet from a new world, but now I'm just not sure how you're playing into all this-- could you just help to clear that up?
  • Palmyrion, are you actually intending on invading?

Well, not until the internal situation on the island becomes messy.
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Dernel
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Founded: Oct 21, 2019
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Postby Dernel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:38 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Cossack Peoples wrote:I think it's important to establish and clarify some things going forward:
  • Bolslania, what exactly is our status with your troops on the island?
  • The Crowned Republic , I feel like I don't exactly know what you're doing; from my initial assumption I thought you were some kind of exploration fleet from a new world, but now I'm just not sure how you're playing into all this-- could you just help to clear that up?
  • Palmyrion, are you actually intending on invading?

Well, not until the internal situation on the island becomes messy.

So, how would you know that it is in a state of sufficient chaos? You've never written that there are any troops there, and immigration is now banned. The smog from the refineries that may or may not have been purposefully messed up for the sake of causing issues with satellites.
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Palmyrion
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Postby Palmyrion » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:52 am

Dernel wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:Well, not until the internal situation on the island becomes messy.

So, how would you know that it is in a state of sufficient chaos? You've never written that there are any troops there, and immigration is now banned. The smog from the refineries that may or may not have been purposefully messed up for the sake of causing issues with satellites.

No matter how much you try to insulate information to and fro the island, there will always be something that will leak out. The events of recent decades are a precedent for this.
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Cossack Peoples
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:58 am

More police/military rule = less unrest

The events of recent decades are a precedent for this

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Dernel
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Postby Dernel » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:59 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Dernel wrote:So, how would you know that it is in a state of sufficient chaos? You've never written that there are any troops there, and immigration is now banned. The smog from the refineries that may or may not have been purposefully messed up for the sake of causing issues with satellites.

No matter how much you try to insulate information to and fro the island, there will always be something that will leak out. The events of recent decades are a precedent for this.

I think you underestimate the amount of rope we have...

In all seriousness, it would take too long for it to reach you, if the situation even devolves any further (chances are it wont), by the time you hear about it, it will have already passed.
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Palmyrion
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Postby Palmyrion » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:02 am

Cossack Peoples wrote:More police/military rule = less unrest

The events of recent decades are a precedent for this

They always go hand in hand. looks at Myanmar and the Arab Spring (I am not trying to debate here lol)

Secondly: a perfectly insulated state where nothing leaks out is pretty much godmod.
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Dernel
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Postby Dernel » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:54 pm

Palmyrion wrote:
Cossack Peoples wrote:More police/military rule = less unrest

The events of recent decades are a precedent for this

They always go hand in hand. looks at Myanmar and the Arab Spring (I am not trying to debate here lol)

Secondly: a perfectly insulated state where nothing leaks out is pretty much godmod.

Either way, you should do something, were kind of all waiting on you.
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Palmyrion
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Postby Palmyrion » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 am

Dernel wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:They always go hand in hand. looks at Myanmar and the Arab Spring (I am not trying to debate here lol)

Secondly: a perfectly insulated state where nothing leaks out is pretty much godmod.

Either way, you should do something, were kind of all waiting on you.

And I finally posted :)
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Cossack Peoples
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:11 am

Palmyrion, roughly where is your country on the globe? I am in the Ukraine area, and I feel as we get deeper into this our respective locations will become important.

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Nation Name (Full): Empire of Nihon
Capital: Gokyo
Leader Title/Leader Name: Prime Minister Sadao Terauchi
Population: 270 million
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Government’s Stance on Islands: Possible trading partner or area for colonization.
Total Military Personnel: 6.4 million
Forces Able to be deployed (Optional): 1 carrier, 1 light carrier, 2 amphibious assault ships, 10 destroyers, 2 frigates, 4 submarines, and support ships. As well as 1,000 marines and 20 tanks.

Imperial Nihonese Navy 7th Fleet

HINMS Ishizaki - Carrier; 65 aircraft
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2 x Osumi Class LST - 500 marines and 10 Type 10 tanks each
4 x Atago Class Destroyers
2 x Maya Class Destroyers
4 x Asahi Class Destroyers
2 x Mogami Class Frigates
4 x Soryu Class Submarines


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