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Postby Lacienia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:22 pm

Well.. we are currently just removing the mines so we can naval invade.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:23 pm

Lacienia wrote:Well.. we are currently just removing the mines so we can naval invade.

for now
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Postby Lacienia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:25 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Lacienia wrote:Well.. we are currently just removing the mines so we can naval invade.

for now

You are right, we won't be mine sweeping much longer.
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A small mountainous island at roughly 60.4 N latitude (Iceland). We are an MT-PMT colonial nation. Our leader is chosen for their merits and has near-absolute power as long as the constitution is upheld.
I have done a lot of worldbuilding. I am bringing it in very slowly.

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Postby Trenaka » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:46 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:
Night Kingdoms wrote:Nvm. They have over 110k. God. It's sad that a FanT nation can spot this out faster than quite a lot of MT and PMT nations here.

They just don't want to lose against 600 WURCo. employees vibing on an atoll, I guess

The main reason I have done no attempt at invasion is that I want to ensure that I am thorough, and I can’t manage that in breaks between my classes at school.
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Postby Occentia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:00 pm

Night Kingdoms wrote:
Cossack Peoples wrote:Well, they must've taken one look at the state of the Richting Atoll under WURCo.'s supervision.
Or, they really just don't know how to manage their troops effectively.

Nvm. They have over 110k. God. It's sad that a FanT nation can spot this out faster than quite a lot of MT and PMT nations here.


for the most part, i've retconned *most* of the occentian ground units in the AO. all the conventional ground units mentioned in my ORBAT edits are stationed at the Singapore naval base, as that falls into the relevant theater command- occentian forces indochina. only forces engaged atm are naval forces, along with SF
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Postby Cossack Peoples » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:21 pm

Occentia wrote:
Night Kingdoms wrote:Nvm. They have over 110k. God. It's sad that a FanT nation can spot this out faster than quite a lot of MT and PMT nations here.


for the most part, i've retconned all of the occentian ground units in the AO. all the ground units mentioned in my ORBAT edits are stationed at the Singapore naval base, as that falls into the relevant theater command- occentian forces indochina. only forces engaged atm are naval forces

So the special forces you sent into the Richting Atoll were retconned?

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Postby Occentia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm

Cossack Peoples wrote:
Occentia wrote:
for the most part, i've retconned all of the occentian ground units in the AO. all the ground units mentioned in my ORBAT edits are stationed at the Singapore naval base, as that falls into the relevant theater command- occentian forces indochina. only forces engaged atm are naval forces

So the special forces you sent into the Richting Atoll were retconned?


wait not that mb that was a mistake
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Emperor: David III | Chancellor: Bradley Reynolds (LDP-IL) | Speaker: Andrew Rao (Con-CA)
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:27 pm

Occentia, godmodding is like masturbation. It’s fine to enjoy it, just don’t do it where everyone else has to see it. And if you insist on doing it, then I’ll look you in the eye and do it right back because nobody is a bigger wanker than me.
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:32 pm

Crysuko wrote:Occentia, godmodding is like masturbation. It’s fine to enjoy it, just don’t do it where everyone else has to see it. And if you insist on doing it, then I’ll look you in the eye and do it right back because nobody is a bigger wanker than me.

What in the heck.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:39 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Occentia, godmodding is like masturbation. It’s fine to enjoy it, just don’t do it where everyone else has to see it. And if you insist on doing it, then I’ll look you in the eye and do it right back because nobody is a bigger wanker than me.

What in the heck.

He godmodded me and I’m telling him to knock it off or get it back
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Occentia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:54 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:What in the heck.

He godmodded me and I’m telling him to knock it off or get it back


280 VLS cells with SAM's is entirely plausible. look at factbooks for more info. the C-HGB is a representation of the IRL C-HGB. every characteristic described in my post is REAL, except for range, which I based off of the similar BrahMos II hypersonic missile from Russia. the deployment on a zumwalt-esque hull is plausible, given the diameter of the launch canisters (supposedly to be mounted on virginia-class SSN's, and the beam of the zumwalt. in essence, one AGS system was replaced by 12 C-HGB launchers.
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Emperor: David III | Chancellor: Bradley Reynolds (LDP-IL) | Speaker: Andrew Rao (Con-CA)
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:08 pm

Occentia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:He godmodded me and I’m telling him to knock it off or get it back


280 VLS cells with SAM's is entirely plausible. look at factbooks for more info. the C-HGB is a representation of the IRL C-HGB. every characteristic described in my post is REAL, except for range, which I based off of the similar BrahMos II hypersonic missile from Russia. the deployment on a zumwalt-esque hull is plausible, given the diameter of the launch canisters (supposedly to be mounted on virginia-class SSN's, and the beam of the zumwalt. in essence, one AGS system was replaced by 12 C-HGB launchers.

I’m talking about hitting with giving me a chance to react to it. And Mach 17 in atmosphere is a ludicrous prospect. For an individual fixated on realism, this is eyeroll worthy. You don’t need to throw jargon at me either, I have google and Wikipedia too.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Occentia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:12 pm

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Postby Crysuko » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:27 pm

Source 1: it’s hypersonic dude I promise dude trust me.

Source 2: Same plus references to a video.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Occentia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:41 pm

Crysuko wrote:Source 1: it’s hypersonic dude I promise dude trust me.

Source 2: Same plus references to a video.


Since I'm tired of trying to convince you, I'll just state that the weapons travel at Mach 5. That's quite a doable speed.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:56 pm

Occentia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Source 1: it’s hypersonic dude I promise dude trust me.

Source 2: Same plus references to a video.


Since I'm tired of trying to convince you, I'll just state that the weapons travel at Mach 5. That's quite a doable speed.

They got counterlaunched, as I stated. Now for gods sake drop it.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Dernel » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:21 am


If you notice the pictures show it in mid to high atmosphere, thats likely where its mach 17, if it ever reaches those speeds, not through the entire flight. It is considerably easier to go near orbital speeds at near orbital heights. But there is no way in hell it goes mach 17 at sea-level without burning up.
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Postby Trenaka » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:40 am

Dernel wrote:

If you notice the pictures show it in mid to high atmosphere, thats likely where its mach 17, if it ever reaches those speeds, not through the entire flight. It is considerably easier to go near orbital speeds at near orbital heights. But there is no way in hell it goes mach 17 at sea-level without burning up.

Yeah. The highest that I think is reasonable fro an MT roleplay is probably around Mach 6, and even then not at sea level.
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Postby Occentia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:29 am

Trenaka wrote:
Dernel wrote:If you notice the pictures show it in mid to high atmosphere, thats likely where its mach 17, if it ever reaches those speeds, not through the entire flight. It is considerably easier to go near orbital speeds at near orbital heights. But there is no way in hell it goes mach 17 at sea-level without burning up.

Yeah. The highest that I think is reasonable fro an MT roleplay is probably around Mach 6, and even then not at sea level.


The C-HGB will be retconned to be a boost-glide body (NOT SEA-SKIMMING) missile, traveling at Mach 7. It does NOT fly at sea level- it uses a BOOST-GLIDE flight profile. (IRL Russian Zircon missile, which has been tested at sea onboard Russian naval vessels, travels at Mach 8, but has lower range.)
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:10 pm

Occentia wrote:
Trenaka wrote:Yeah. The highest that I think is reasonable fro an MT roleplay is probably around Mach 6, and even then not at sea level.


The C-HGB will be retconned to be a boost-glide body (NOT SEA-SKIMMING) missile, traveling at Mach 7. It does NOT fly at sea level- it uses a BOOST-GLIDE flight profile. (IRL Russian Zircon missile, which has been tested at sea onboard Russian naval vessels, travels at Mach 8, but has lower range.)

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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Lacienia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:57 pm

Cossack brings up an interesting point. It is also possible they are separate entities all together. We assumed they were united, but it was never said explicitly.
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A small mountainous island at roughly 60.4 N latitude (Iceland). We are an MT-PMT colonial nation. Our leader is chosen for their merits and has near-absolute power as long as the constitution is upheld.
I have done a lot of worldbuilding. I am bringing it in very slowly.

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Postby Cossack Peoples » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:12 pm

If this is one movement and all the leadership is concentrated on the Kupferlands, which are surrounded and under much worse repair than the Richting Atoll, then it would make sense that the responsibility of leadership (as we've already ordered people around) would fall to the top dog and the only semblance of a command structure (WURCo. operatives).

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Postby Lacienia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:24 pm

Though, if these are two coordinated but separate movements, then Richting still has its own government.
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Breaking News: High Consul Andrews shot. Condition uncertain.


A small mountainous island at roughly 60.4 N latitude (Iceland). We are an MT-PMT colonial nation. Our leader is chosen for their merits and has near-absolute power as long as the constitution is upheld.
I have done a lot of worldbuilding. I am bringing it in very slowly.

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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:56 pm

Swiggity Swooty
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Official thread euthanologist
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Postby Trenaka » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:55 pm

The two movements are separate, but they coordinated with each other to rise up simultaneously.
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Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

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