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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:22 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:I was talking of just the foreign powers. That the foreign powers would not attack each other until the communists are destroyed

well ZN would not accept.

why?

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:23 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:well ZN would not accept.

why?

Well your supporting a fascist dictatorship and they feel that the communists are mangable.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:25 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:why?

Well your supporting a fascist dictatorship and they feel that the communists are mangable.

I will remind them that we are in SETA and promise to try with our might to take down the Fascist covertly

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:26 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Well your supporting a fascist dictatorship and they feel that the communists are mangable.

I will remind them that we are in SETA and promise to try with our might to take down the Fascist covertly

So do a coup against him? Well ZN still doesn't trust you.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:32 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:I will remind them that we are in SETA and promise to try with our might to take down the Fascist covertly

So do a coup against him? Well ZN still doesn't trust you.

Yeah. We will try to take down the fascists and put up the conservatives

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:34 pm

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Zarnicovia nova wrote:So do a coup against him? Well ZN still doesn't trust you.

Yeah. We will try to take down the fascists and put up the conservatives

Well you're going to have a hard time because he's put loyalists in all high-value positions and got rid of anyone he thought wasn't loyal to him. that includes conservatives. a majority of conservatives are too scared to try anything against him and he got word of your plans from a captured ZN embassy.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:54 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:Yeah. We will try to take down the fascists and put up the conservatives

Well you're going to have a hard time because he's put loyalists in all high-value positions and got rid of anyone he thought wasn't loyal to him. that includes conservatives. a majority of conservatives are too scared to try anything against him and he got word of your plans from a captured ZN embassy.

Hppmh. I'll have to go to tell conservatives that they will be safe under my troops but we have to coup them

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:55 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Well you're going to have a hard time because he's put loyalists in all high-value positions and got rid of anyone he thought wasn't loyal to him. that includes conservatives. a majority of conservatives are too scared to try anything against him and he got word of your plans from a captured ZN embassy.

Hppmh. I'll have to go to tell conservatives that they will be safe under my troops but we have to coup them

Ok try it.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:56 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:Hppmh. I'll have to go to tell conservatives that they will be safe under my troops but we have to coup them

Ok try it.

I will

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:12 pm

I was thinking that the liberals have the large island and the conservativeswithout fascists will have the smaller one. There is a second idea, but i want to see if you like this one first

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:13 pm

Romextly wrote:I was thinking that the liberals have the large island and the conservativeswithout fascists will have the smaller one. There is a second idea, but i want to see if you like this one first

The second island has a majority of it's people supporting very left ideas. that's why it's the communist stronghold.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:14 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:I was thinking that the liberals have the large island and the conservativeswithout fascists will have the smaller one. There is a second idea, but i want to see if you like this one first

The second island has a majority of it's people supporting very left ideas. that's why it's the communist stronghold.

where is the conservative (Not the fascists), have the most in popularity?

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:15 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:The second island has a majority of it's people supporting very left ideas. that's why it's the communist stronghold.

where is the conservative (Not the fascists), have the most in popularity?

The outskirts on the main island. It goes by no natural boundaries so war would be ineveiable.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:16 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:where is the conservative (Not the fascists), have the most in popularity?

The outskirts on the main island. It goes by no natural boundaries so war would be ineveiable.

well the other idea is that in the government conservatives will be given good positions. Maybe minister of trade or devlopment. But not the army or military

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:18 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:The outskirts on the main island. It goes by no natural boundaries so war would be ineveiable.

well the other idea is that in the government conservatives will be given good positions. Maybe minister of trade or devlopment. But not the army or military

Well, first we need to get rid of the leader of the kingdom of New Hallin before any peace negotiations will happen.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:19 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:well the other idea is that in the government conservatives will be given good positions. Maybe minister of trade or devlopment. But not the army or military

Well, first we need to get rid of the leader of the kingdom of New Hallin before any peace negotiations will happen.

Oh, where is he located. And also we will get rid of the communists right?

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:21 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Well, first we need to get rid of the leader of the kingdom of New Hallin before any peace negotiations will happen.

Oh, where is he located. And also we will get rid of the communists right?


His location is in the capitol of the country. a not so even 165 KM inland and heavily guarded.

the communist issue: by the looks of things taking out the communists will cost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of men.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:22 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:Oh, where is he located. And also we will get rid of the communists right?


His location is in the capitol of the country. a not so even 165 KM inland and heavily guarded.

the communist issue: by the looks of things taking out the communists will cost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of men.

well, what will we do with them?

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:25 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:
His location is in the capitol of the country. a not so even 165 KM inland and heavily guarded.

the communist issue: by the looks of things taking out the communists will cost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of men.

well, what will we do with them?

killing him will be hard but if you want the conservatives to win he will need to be killed. The fact is that he now knows what you're doing because a ZN ambassador was tortured and gave in giving information about your plot so it will very hard.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:26 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:well, what will we do with them?

killing him will be hard but if you want the conservatives to win he will need to be killed. The fact is that he now knows what you're doing because a ZN ambassador was tortured and gave in giving information about your plot so it will very hard.

Is there conservatives in the city or near him? Cause then my planes could probably destroy his palace

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:27 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:killing him will be hard but if you want the conservatives to win he will need to be killed. The fact is that he now knows what you're doing because a ZN ambassador was tortured and gave in giving information about your plot so it will very hard.

Is there conservatives in the city or near him? Cause then my planes could probably destroy his palace

yes a few of his ministers are conservatives. especially his minister of law enforcement. He also has a ZN made air defense system which would take out your planes.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:29 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:Is there conservatives in the city or near him? Cause then my planes could probably destroy his palace

yes a few of his ministers are conservatives. especially his minister of law enforcement. He also has a ZN made air defense system which would take out your planes.

Prob not. If I'm correct, New hallin sounds as if they have high tech, but prob don't have 5th gen fighters. And if not, a land strike would take him out quickly

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:30 pm

Romextly wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:yes a few of his ministers are conservatives. especially his minister of law enforcement. He also has a ZN made air defense system which would take out your planes.

Prob not. If I'm correct, New hallin sounds as if they have high tech, but prob don't have 5th gen fighters. And if not, a land strike would take him out quickly

No they have 6th gen ZN made planes. The airforce went on the side of the kingdom but liberals did defect to ZN and ZN is sending a lot more planes in so they're not really using their planes.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:32 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Romextly wrote:Prob not. If I'm correct, New hallin sounds as if they have high tech, but prob don't have 5th gen fighters. And if not, a land strike would take him out quickly

No they have 6th gen ZN made planes. The airforce went on the side of the kingdom but liberals did defect to ZN and ZN is sending a lot more planes in so they're not really using their planes.

is this PMT?

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