Isaanni-New Antaricanian War (IC/Post-MT/Fan-T/TG entry)

[Romextly]

OOC: That's true if the fighting was in Sharifistan. Plus, my zones are specifically in areas where there is not Isaani troops

OOC: We held a peace conference in your land and your troops were sent to occupy Communist Sharifistan during the ceasefire, as Madri, NA, Sharifistani and Insaani troops were being drawn out. My problem is just that you paint yourself as neutral, when you're really not.

OOC: I have slowly become more and more towards Isaani side. And I am actually nuetral, but biased on Insaanistan. But if you have seen, my rep in the peace talks has not really said anything and actually supports and independence movement in Italy

[New Antarcticania]

OOC: That's true if the fighting was in Sharifistan. Plus, my zones are specifically in areas where there is not Isaani troops

OOC: We held a peace conference in your land and your troops were sent to occupy Communist Sharifistan during the ceasefire, as Madri, NA, Sharifistani and Insaani troops were being drawn out. My problem is just that you paint yourself as neutral, when you're really not.

Most of the NA forces were still present at the border in case the conference went to crap


Which it did

[Madrinpoor]

OOC: We held a peace conference in your land and your troops were sent to occupy Communist Sharifistan during the ceasefire, as Madri, NA, Sharifistani and Insaani troops were being drawn out. My problem is just that you paint yourself as neutral, when you're really not.

OOC: I have slowly become more and more towards Isaani side. And I am actually nuetral, but biased on Insaanistan. But if you have seen, my rep in the peace talks has not really said anything and actually supports and independence movement in Italy

OOC: "And I am actually neutral, but biased on Insaanistan"

[Langenia]

Furia responds that he sees Nura like any other world leader at their accession. At first unproved, but he wishes to see if he can prove her mettle. Though he does not say this he wonders how she will use the powerful military, mostly courtesy of the Langenians, that the Insaanis have built since their civil war. Also, he does not say that they are planning anything, but judging from the evasiveness of the call one can wonder whether or not they are planning something.

Martredi insinuates that Insaanistan is at an exceptionally weak point right now, as they are under the transition of a monarch, during a controversial war, with riots, conspiracies, and a military reliant on Langenia and engaged in civil unrest and a costly foreign war, it may be time for Insaanistan to begin paying off their debt with land cessions and sales. And if they would not willingly give up their land, then some persuasion could be in order...

By the way, this conversation is totally secret.

Furia also points out that Madrinpoor, despite not going through unrest, is a gunpowder barrel that can explode at anytime, full of tension. Especially if a foreign actor heats up those tensions. Also, he points out the close military relationship between the Insaani and Langenian militaries, and as long as Insaani generals, experienced from multiple wars, live Insaanistan shall not be weak. Finally, Insaanistan will not be giving up any land soon. Not as long as the Langenians are watching, who have better chances of achieving their interests via a united Insaanistan vs. fractured Insaanistan.

[Madrinpoor]

OOC: We held a peace conference in your land and your troops were sent to occupy Communist Sharifistan during the ceasefire, as Madri, NA, Sharifistani and Insaani troops were being drawn out. My problem is just that you paint yourself as neutral, when you're really not.

Most of the NA forces were still present at the border in case the conference went to crap


Which it did

OOC: Yup. So were Madri troops which is why the SIvas bunker was built. After the conference effectively changed nothing, and Kazakha prepared to invade, I sent troops again.

[Romextly]

OOC: I have slowly become more and more towards Isaani side. And I am actually nuetral, but biased on Insaanistan. But if you have seen, my rep in the peace talks has not really said anything and actually supports and independence movement in Italy

OOC: "And I am actually neutral, but biased on Insaanistan"

OOC: If you had read that last part, you can see that I am literally siding with you on one of your objectives, of a free state and if you have seen another thing, Romextly has recently disapproved Insaani new leadership

[Madrinpoor]

Martredi insinuates that Insaanistan is at an exceptionally weak point right now, as they are under the transition of a monarch, during a controversial war, with riots, conspiracies, and a military reliant on Langenia and engaged in civil unrest and a costly foreign war, it may be time for Insaanistan to begin paying off their debt with land cessions and sales. And if they would not willingly give up their land, then some persuasion could be in order...

By the way, this conversation is totally secret.

Furia also points out that Madrinpoor, despite not going through unrest, is a gunpowder barrel that can explode at anytime, full of tension. Especially if a foreign actor heats up those tensions. Also, he points out the close military relationship between the Insaani and Langenian militaries, and as long as Insaani generals, experienced from multiple wars, live Insaanistan shall not be weak. Finally, Insaanistan will not be giving up any land soon. Not as long as the Langenians are watching, who have better chances of achieving their interests via a united Insaanistan vs. fractured Insaanistan.

OOC: Madrinpoor is a gunpowder barrel that exploded recently. Ethnic tensions run deep, and a genocide of the indigenous population in the 80s has amplified those. The sharp divides between the 39% Spanish/Catholic population and the 41% Malay/Muslim population are also causing tension, especially since Spaniards take up the majority of government positions. I know it is a gunpowder barrel.

IC: Martredi, realizing his diplomatic mistake, quickly changes tack. "Madrinpoor does not want war in Insaanistan, and never asked for it. We just pointed out the rifts that divide the country. This could mean the end of the monarchy. Times are changing, and the monarchy may need to change too. Supporting the dying royal family is a bad decision, and it will only solidify your loyalty to a weak regime." He wants to observe Furia's response to this.

[Madrinpoor]

OOC: "And I am actually neutral, but biased on Insaanistan"

OOC: If you had read that last part, you can see that I am literally siding with you on one of your objectives, of a free state and if you have seen another thing, Romextly has recently disapproved Insaani new leadership

OOC: I know, I was just point out the irony. "neutral, but biased on Insaanistan".

[Madrinpoor]

OOC: Also, Langenia, read my bio. I'm not your neighbor after my region forced me to change location because someone else in it already took my spot geographically. So now I am in Malaysia but with the same everything else

[Romextly]

OOC: If you had read that last part, you can see that I am literally siding with you on one of your objectives, of a free state and if you have seen another thing, Romextly has recently disapproved Insaani new leadership

OOC: I know, I was just point out the irony. "neutral, but biased on Insaanistan".

OOC: But I ams till neutral. The question was that I claimed to be neutral and I am neutral

[Langenia]

Furia also points out that Madrinpoor, despite not going through unrest, is a gunpowder barrel that can explode at anytime, full of tension. Especially if a foreign actor heats up those tensions. Also, he points out the close military relationship between the Insaani and Langenian militaries, and as long as Insaani generals, experienced from multiple wars, live Insaanistan shall not be weak. Finally, Insaanistan will not be giving up any land soon. Not as long as the Langenians are watching, who have better chances of achieving their interests via a united Insaanistan vs. fractured Insaanistan.

OOC: Madrinpoor is a gunpowder barrel that exploded recently. Ethnic tensions run deep, and a genocide of the indigenous population in the 80s has amplified those. The sharp divides between the 39% Spanish/Catholic population and the 41% Malay/Muslim population are also causing tension, especially since Spaniards take up the majority of government positions. I know it is a gunpowder barrel.

IC: Martredi, realizing his diplomatic mistake, quickly changes tack. "Madrinpoor does not want war in Insaanistan, and never asked for it. We just pointed out the rifts that divide the country. This could mean the end of the monarchy. Times are changing, and the monarchy may need to change too. Supporting the dying royal family is a bad decision, and it will only solidify your loyalty to a weak regime." He wants to observe Furia's response to this.

"You do realize that the monarchy is not permanent? It is a transitional government. Also, with all due respect, sir, but did you really just say I am loyal to a weak regime. Insaaanistan, with our support, has helped further our interests. Also, I am loyal to myself. I am not loyal to others, others are loyal to me."

[Insaanistan]

Guare claims that the parties were "almost entirely peaceful" and that Nura is greatly overreacting to a nonexistent threat. She suggests paranoia and fear of opposition from the people, and not just the establishment politicians who she claims are not a grave threat to her, due to the suspension of democracy.

The Romextlians ask the Isaani government to release videos of the riots

They release the graphic videos, which also show several deaths.

[New Antarcticania]

The Romextlians ask the Isaani government to release videos of the riots

They release the graphic videos, which also show several deaths.

meanwhile, the New antartican staff chuckles at the chaos they have created in their enemy's cities

[Madrinpoor]

OOC: Madrinpoor is a gunpowder barrel that exploded recently. Ethnic tensions run deep, and a genocide of the indigenous population in the 80s has amplified those. The sharp divides between the 39% Spanish/Catholic population and the 41% Malay/Muslim population are also causing tension, especially since Spaniards take up the majority of government positions. I know it is a gunpowder barrel.

IC: Martredi, realizing his diplomatic mistake, quickly changes tack. "Madrinpoor does not want war in Insaanistan, and never asked for it. We just pointed out the rifts that divide the country. This could mean the end of the monarchy. Times are changing, and the monarchy may need to change too. Supporting the dying royal family is a bad decision, and it will only solidify your loyalty to a weak regime." He wants to observe Furia's response to this.

"You do realize that the monarchy is not permanent? It is a transitional government. Also, with all due respect, sir, but did you really just say I am loyal to a weak regime. Insaaanistan, with our support, has helped further our interests. Also, I am loyal to myself. I am not loyal to others, others are loyal to me."

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

[Insaanistan]

"You do realize that the monarchy is not permanent? It is a transitional government. Also, with all due respect, sir, but did you really just say I am loyal to a weak regime. Insaaanistan, with our support, has helped further our interests. Also, I am loyal to myself. I am not loyal to others, others are loyal to me."

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

(Oh, it’s fine. Totally fine.
*Grabs phone*
Siri, remind me to “take care of” President Martredi.)

[New Antarcticania]

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

(Oh, it’s fine. Totally fine.
*Grabs phone*
Siri, remind me to “take care of” President Martredi.)

Hey Alexi!
beep
Remind me to *encourage* isaanistan to not make any stupid moves

[Madrinpoor]

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

(Oh, it’s fine. Totally fine.
*Grabs phone*
Siri, remind me to “take care of” President Martredi.)

(Haha. Just to put you at peace of mind, Martredi probably isn't gonna win the next election. I can't say for sure, because I use dice for my elections, along with bonuses I have given based on popularity, base size, etc. He's gonna have some negative bonuses because a lot of people disagree with his war, or the handling of the AA1 virus (from my region), or his authoritarian turn recently, including harsh lockdowns and brutal crackdowns on rioters, including suspending a congressional act that he passed in order to punish his son's kidnappers.)

[Romextly]

"You do realize that the monarchy is not permanent? It is a transitional government. Also, with all due respect, sir, but did you really just say I am loyal to a weak regime. Insaaanistan, with our support, has helped further our interests. Also, I am loyal to myself. I am not loyal to others, others are loyal to me."

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

OOC: Did you just say that soon Langenia will be needing Insaanistan. Oh boi, you dun messed up

[Insaanistan]

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

OOC: Did you just say that soon Langenia will be needing Insaanistan. Oh boi, you dun messed up

(Like, big time.)

[Romextly]

OOC: Did you just say that soon Langenia will be needing Insaanistan. Oh boi, you dun messed up

(Like, big time.)

OOC: LAng is gonna be so damn mad

[Madrinpoor]

Uh oh...

[Madrinpoor]

"If the monarchy is not permanent, then why should it not end now. Why should it have been established. If the people supported a temporary monarch, then who are they to replace her? They are betraying the people's trust, and that will come back to hurt them. Insaanistan will further your interests until they do not need you anymore. Then they will leave you. And they will be stronger than you. And you will need them. Need brings loyalty, and loyalty is something you do not want, is it? They are like a stray dog. You feed it, give it water, and eventually bring it in your home. Without you, it would starve. But soon you begin treating it like a family member, you would never let it go. You are now loyal to it. You bathe it, feed it good food, and take it for walks. It is no longer a stray dog, it is now your pet. And you cannot get rid of it, but you must always continue to feed it. And if you kick it out, it will attack you. There is no way out of this bond, it is forever. They say a dog is loyal, when really it is you that is loyal to it. You cannot just feed it. You must train it. Make sure it does not attack you. Make it sit. Make it obedient. Then give it food, once it serves your wishes. Why is Spain administered by them? It is occupied by you. Take the whip. Train the dog." Realizing his weaker negotiating position, Martredi tries to persuade Furia of his upper hand in controlling these matters. "I know you will not stop giving them arms for the war. It helps you too much. But while you do that, weaken them so you can bend them in the future. Then they will be more helpful to you than they are now. A weakened Insaanistan is good for you as it is for me. You have that capability now."

(Insaani, sorry for comparing your nation to a dog. It was the only analogy I could think of.)

OOC: Did you just say that soon Langenia will be needing Insaanistan. Oh boi, you dun messed up

OOC: To be fair, I told him that if he does not change course he will be. I also stressed that he has the upper hand in this matter and can wield it to get the results he wants, but if he does not he will regret it.

[Romextly]

OOC: Did you just say that soon Langenia will be needing Insaanistan. Oh boi, you dun messed up

OOC: To be fair, I told him that if he does not change course he will be. I also stressed that he has the upper hand in this matter and can wield it to get the results he wants, but if he does not he will regret it.

OOC: Like JAcksons horse in oversimplified
"YOu bois dun messed up."

[New Antarcticania]

"This enraged Langleia, who punished him severely"

[Madrinpoor]

OOC: I am a little confused because...like I hear "Langenia is gonna kill me" what will he do?