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Osean-Joyean War (PT to PMT only, OOC, Signups Closed)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Cairene Arabia
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Founded: Jan 04, 2020
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Postby Cairene Arabia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:08 pm

Langenia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Has anyone been keeping tab of the numbers of Langenian submarines now decorating the sea floor of bumfucknowhere? <.>
I have a feeling he's been losing more submarines than he has.


Eh, I can always make more.

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Caliph: Fatin Al-Nasser | Sultan: Amir Faiz | Grand Mufti: Alim Al-Amin | Anthem: Every Arab is my Brother | Current RP: Silent No More
NEWS: Sultan Amir Faiz warns that whoever supports the Alawite Civil Rights Movement will be blocked from the Suez. | Grand Mufti declares fatwa against Alawites, says they are kafir and mushrikun. | Alawites led by Bashar Al-Assad demand right to publicly practice religion and be recognized as Muslim.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:40 pm

Seriously though Langenia. Can we have an exact list of things you've sent to Strangereal please, so we can avoid bullshit like this in the future?

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The United Artherian Federation
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:37 pm

Are people entirely unable to not godmod

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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Founded: Oct 30, 2018
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:27 pm

i think shit's gotten off track
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My canon is currently in a state of constant flux. Please do not take anything that I say as set in stone.
A 13 civilization, according to this index.

A traumatized MT-PMT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal union of Prussia and Poland. A land of rampant gun ownership, Cold-war equipment, rabid hatred of Germans(or, if you're naval infantry, Japanese), militias with enough artillery to turn an armored division into a badly-shaken battalion of light infantry, and terrified American troops counting down the days until they rotate back home.

NEWS: Prussian-Polish WW2 veterans arrested for committing arson against Suwa Shrine


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Folaisia
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Postby Folaisia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:52 pm

What's going on?
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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:26 am

Folaisia wrote:What's going on?

Hell if I know.
My canon is currently in a state of constant flux. Please do not take anything that I say as set in stone.
A 13 civilization, according to this index.

A traumatized MT-PMT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal union of Prussia and Poland. A land of rampant gun ownership, Cold-war equipment, rabid hatred of Germans(or, if you're naval infantry, Japanese), militias with enough artillery to turn an armored division into a badly-shaken battalion of light infantry, and terrified American troops counting down the days until they rotate back home.

NEWS: Prussian-Polish WW2 veterans arrested for committing arson against Suwa Shrine


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Cairene Arabia
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Postby Cairene Arabia » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:43 am

Cairene Arabia wrote:Nation Name: Al-Khilafah Al-Eabbasia wa Saltanat Al-Qahr
Side (Osean\Joyean): Joyean
Support given: Direct Military Intervention
Any other notes or questions:
Did you read the rules?: This is stupid

Bump
ALKHILAFAT ALEABBASIAT WASALTANAT ALQAHIRA
!ٱللَّٰهُ أَكْبَرُ
Government: Joint Elective Caliphate & Sultanate | Religion: Sunni Islam | Location: MENA | Capital: Qahira
Caliph: Fatin Al-Nasser | Sultan: Amir Faiz | Grand Mufti: Alim Al-Amin | Anthem: Every Arab is my Brother | Current RP: Silent No More
NEWS: Sultan Amir Faiz warns that whoever supports the Alawite Civil Rights Movement will be blocked from the Suez. | Grand Mufti declares fatwa against Alawites, says they are kafir and mushrikun. | Alawites led by Bashar Al-Assad demand right to publicly practice religion and be recognized as Muslim.

Fard left NS so his old accounts are under new management.

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Peoples Republic of Joyea
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Founded: May 04, 2018
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Postby Peoples Republic of Joyea » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:03 am

Cairene Arabia wrote:
Cairene Arabia wrote:Nation Name: Al-Khilafah Al-Eabbasia wa Saltanat Al-Qahr
Side (Osean\Joyean): Joyean
Support given: Direct Military Intervention
Any other notes or questions:
Did you read the rules?: This is stupid

Bump

A c c e p t e d
Joyean Military Industries (Defense Company):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=485669
Joyeah City International Airport:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=471451
Air Joyea
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=472304

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Incumbent General Secretary: Joyeah Andreyev
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Peoples Republic of Joyea
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Founded: May 04, 2018
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Postby Peoples Republic of Joyea » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:47 pm

Santa Selena wrote:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:this rp is a tire fire and i love it

Yeah! What year is it even! Is it 2020, 2064, 2100, 3000!?!

It takes place in 2020.

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:this rp is a tire fire and i love it

First non GE&T RP, still trying to get the hang of it.
Joyean Military Industries (Defense Company):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=485669
Joyeah City International Airport:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=471451
Air Joyea
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=472304

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Lacienia
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Postby Lacienia » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:37 am

Bump

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:04 am

Osea did you see my TG?

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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:27 am

pain
My canon is currently in a state of constant flux. Please do not take anything that I say as set in stone.
A 13 civilization, according to this index.

A traumatized MT-PMT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal union of Prussia and Poland. A land of rampant gun ownership, Cold-war equipment, rabid hatred of Germans(or, if you're naval infantry, Japanese), militias with enough artillery to turn an armored division into a badly-shaken battalion of light infantry, and terrified American troops counting down the days until they rotate back home.

NEWS: Prussian-Polish WW2 veterans arrested for committing arson against Suwa Shrine


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Peoples Republic of Joyea
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Founded: May 04, 2018
Corporate Police State

Postby Peoples Republic of Joyea » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:28 pm

I'm going to change the tech levels to PT through PMT so we are able to use different tactics and equipment.
Joyean Military Industries (Defense Company):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=485669
Joyeah City International Airport:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=471451
Air Joyea
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=472304

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Incumbent General Secretary: Joyeah Andreyev
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The United Artherian Federation
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Founded: Jun 14, 2017
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:26 pm

Peoples Republic of Joyea wrote:I'm going to change the tech levels to PT through PMT so we are able to use different tactics and equipment.

The general consensus is that if you say PMT you can use MT and PT but okay.
And I can use tactics from WW2 if I want to, the tech level doesn’t impact that (however throwing waves of infantry at the enemy may no longer work...)

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Peoples Republic of Joyea
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Postby Peoples Republic of Joyea » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:43 am

The United Artherian Federation wrote:
Peoples Republic of Joyea wrote:I'm going to change the tech levels to PT through PMT so we are able to use different tactics and equipment.

The general consensus is that if you say PMT you can use MT and PT but okay.
And I can use tactics from WW2 if I want to, the tech level doesn’t impact that (however throwing waves of infantry at the enemy may no longer work...)

I wasn't saying that you couldn't use those tactics or equipment. Sorry it was the only way I could explain that.
Joyean Military Industries (Defense Company):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=485669
Joyeah City International Airport:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=471451
Air Joyea
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=472304

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Incumbent General Secretary: Joyeah Andreyev
Incumbent Party Chairman: John Goodchild

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Reorganisieren Reichregierung
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Founded: Jan 23, 2017
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Postby Reorganisieren Reichregierung » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:53 am

Peoples Republic of Joyea wrote:
The United Artherian Federation wrote:The general consensus is that if you say PMT you can use MT and PT but okay.
And I can use tactics from WW2 if I want to, the tech level doesn’t impact that (however throwing waves of infantry at the enemy may no longer work...)

I wasn't saying that you couldn't use those tactics or equipment. Sorry it was the only way I could explain that.

Let me explain this in detail.

"PT", "MT" and "FT" are only upper bounds. If you say "MT" modern and less advanced tech, including caveman weapons, are theoretically fair game. PMT is a special case because the boundaries between MT and FT are blurred here. PMT covers extrapolations of MT that have not been implemented up to just before FTL, in my understanding. So you append PMT or "early PMT" to MT to say plausible paper tech up to some point is allowed.

So saying MT-PMT makes sense but to be honest PT-PMT doesn't because MT covers PT.
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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:11 am

Peoples Republic of Joyea wrote:
The United Artherian Federation wrote:The general consensus is that if you say PMT you can use MT and PT but okay.
And I can use tactics from WW2 if I want to, the tech level doesn’t impact that (however throwing waves of infantry at the enemy may no longer work...)

I wasn't saying that you couldn't use those tactics or equipment. Sorry it was the only way I could explain that.

He's saying that using them wouldn't end well, not that he couldn't.
My canon is currently in a state of constant flux. Please do not take anything that I say as set in stone.
A 13 civilization, according to this index.

A traumatized MT-PMT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal union of Prussia and Poland. A land of rampant gun ownership, Cold-war equipment, rabid hatred of Germans(or, if you're naval infantry, Japanese), militias with enough artillery to turn an armored division into a badly-shaken battalion of light infantry, and terrified American troops counting down the days until they rotate back home.

NEWS: Prussian-Polish WW2 veterans arrested for committing arson against Suwa Shrine


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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:12 am

Quite frankly, using WW2 or even early Cold War equipment in a modern war is an easy way to get steamrolled.
My canon is currently in a state of constant flux. Please do not take anything that I say as set in stone.
A 13 civilization, according to this index.

A traumatized MT-PMT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal union of Prussia and Poland. A land of rampant gun ownership, Cold-war equipment, rabid hatred of Germans(or, if you're naval infantry, Japanese), militias with enough artillery to turn an armored division into a badly-shaken battalion of light infantry, and terrified American troops counting down the days until they rotate back home.

NEWS: Prussian-Polish WW2 veterans arrested for committing arson against Suwa Shrine


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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:39 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:As previously discussed on TG @OP:
Could you explain each of the items on this list, why you have them and what purpose you believe they serve?
Attack aircraft currently stationed in Joyeah City (excluding aircraft there temporarily AC-130,SU 25, SU 20, SU 7, Q5, J 21 Jastreb, AU 23, A-7, F1 (anti ship aircraft). Fighger aircraft stationed there include Hellcat 3000, MiG 35, MiG 25, MiG 29, Su 35, Tu 128, J 8, MiG 21, J 62s, J 10, J 20. Bombers at Joyeah city air base are Tu 95, B 1, Tu 22, B2, Yak 28. Other aircraft stationed there include: Yak 27, SR 71, SR 75, Tu 22PD, AN 2, C 17, Kc 10, Kc 130, kc 135, E 3, AN 225, AN 124, AN 12, Condor X, Vulture X, T 1, VC 137s, MS 160, JJ 2, WC 130, EC 130E, and EC 130Q.

I am mostly interested in these items:
"AU 23"
"Hellcat 3000"
"J 62"
"SR 75"
"Condor X"
"Vulture X"
"MS 160"

I'm more interested in why he has things like A-4s, A-7s, Su-7s, Su-17s, and MiG-21s that were mostly outdated by the 70s-80s operating alongside B-2s and MiG-35s. And why he made this PMT if he was going to be using older technology (though granted most people, including me, are just treating it like MT anyay).

Langenia wrote:Lacienia, I mean that you said that Langenien subs had attacked your convoy, thus meaning you acted for my nation, rather than myself, thus godmodding. Hope this helps! :)

I mean, you have repeatedly said that you're using unrestricted submarine warfare, so it's not really that unreasonable to assume your subs would attack a military convoy.

Allanea wrote:Just to be clear, you should see my follow-up post in this tghread. At this point it's not tenable for me to support Joyea in this war and I'll probably be doing minor actions in support of Osea instead.

I know what you mean. I was starting to wonder for a bit when people were going on about Osea being evil and supporting terrorism and whatnot. Then in comes Reich with an aircraft carrier literally named freaking Adolf Hitler, and I'm just like "oh, I'm totally on the right side of this war, and I don't believe a word these people say."

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Has anyone been keeping tab of the numbers of Langenian submarines now decorating the sea floor of bumfucknowhere? <.>
I have a feeling he's been losing more submarines than he has.

Dunno, but he's about to start losing more now that my Congress has authorized military force (which, by the way, isn't a formal declaration of war). Basically, I'm going to have subs mining his submarine bases and waiting to ambush subs returning to rearm. They'll also be shadowing any sub tenders he has.

Peoples Republic of Joyea wrote:
Santa Selena wrote:Yeah! What year is it even! Is it 2020, 2064, 2100, 3000!?!

It takes place in 2020.

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:this rp is a tire fire and i love it

First non GE&T RP, still trying to get the hang of it.

Honestly, you're not doing too bad, especially for a first RP. Granted, it's not the most realistic or serious RP around, but that's actually why I signed up in the first place. Sometimes it's nice to be able to relax a bit and not have to put tons of effort into every post. That said, you have an RP that's kept everyone's interest for 11 pages OOC and 4 pages IC, which is more than a lot of RPs manage.

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:43 pm

Lacienia, my subs are still there, attacking your convoy and blowing up transport ships. The subs in Erusea are a different group.
Langenia: a military dictatorship. Strict laws, dissidents vanish mysteriously, the government manages a thriving black market that produces a slush fund for the dictator, the people don't have any r*ghts or fr**doms, the military holds a high place in society...

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Lacienia
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Postby Lacienia » Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:31 pm

Whoops, I will still deploy my landing craft though. The scene would just be a much. more rushed. and frantic afair.

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:45 am

Lacienia wrote:Whoops, I will still deploy my landing craft though. The scene would just be a much. more rushed. and frantic afair.


alright, good.
Langenia: a military dictatorship. Strict laws, dissidents vanish mysteriously, the government manages a thriving black market that produces a slush fund for the dictator, the people don't have any r*ghts or fr**doms, the military holds a high place in society...

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The Federation of Spokane
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Postby The Federation of Spokane » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:50 pm

Hey Joyea,
I know it’s too late, and I feel bad for missing the sign-ups. However, in the Syria chat, I have my armed forces fighting against the Oseanians in Damascus. I’m wondering, if you’d be open to let me join as a exception if you want because I feel like it would be OOC if Spokane is involved in the Syria war but not the Oseanian-Joyean war on Joyea’s side. To even things out if you want, I can see if somebody I know would be open to joining on Oseania’s side. But, it won’t be the end of the world if you say no because I completely understand.
Thanks,
Spokane
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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:14 am

Mitheldalond, have your diplomats left the country? I had an idea for my next post.
Langenia: a military dictatorship. Strict laws, dissidents vanish mysteriously, the government manages a thriving black market that produces a slush fund for the dictator, the people don't have any r*ghts or fr**doms, the military holds a high place in society...

Socialist Dictator Republic of Langenia Embassy Program

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Peoples Republic of Joyea
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Founded: May 04, 2018
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Postby Peoples Republic of Joyea » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:22 am

The Federation of Spokane wrote:Hey Joyea,
I know it’s too late, and I feel bad for missing the sign-ups. However, in the Syria chat, I have my armed forces fighting against the Oseanians in Damascus. I’m wondering, if you’d be open to let me join as a exception if you want because I feel like it would be OOC if Spokane is involved in the Syria war but not the Oseanian-Joyean war on Joyea’s side. To even things out if you want, I can see if somebody I know would be open to joining on Oseania’s side. But, it won’t be the end of the world if you say no because I completely understand.
Thanks,
Spokane

Sure you're welcome to join!
Joyean Military Industries (Defense Company):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=485669
Joyeah City International Airport:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=471451
Air Joyea
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=472304

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Incumbent Party Chairman: John Goodchild

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