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UniversalCommons
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Postby UniversalCommons » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:50 am

Official Nation Name (Include Pretitle): UniversalCommons
I have read and agreed to the rules (Y/N): Y
IC intentions: The Undersea Salvage and Recycling Cooperative wishes to have rights of salvage of sunken ships and materials after the conflict is over. We intend to collect metals and materials and recover sunken ships, submarines, and other crafts.
IC attitude towards South Reinkalistan (Pro/Anti): It is a business opportunity, a chance to make a profit.
We're just tagging you to let you know we will be cleaning up afterward if that is possible.

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South Reinkalistan
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:33 am

UniversalCommons wrote:Official Nation Name (Include Pretitle): UniversalCommons
I have read and agreed to the rules (Y/N): Y
IC intentions: The Undersea Salvage and Recycling Cooperative wishes to have rights of salvage of sunken ships and materials after the conflict is over. We intend to collect metals and materials and recover sunken ships, submarines, and other crafts.
IC attitude towards South Reinkalistan (Pro/Anti): It is a business opportunity, a chance to make a profit.
We're just tagging you to let you know we will be cleaning up afterward if that is possible.

Just a HU: This is not necessarily a "conflict"; it might arise into one, but nothing is set in stone. ACCEPTED.

RE: The RP, I'll be posting later tonight (It is currently half past 3 in the afternoon for me).
THE PEOPLE ETERNAL
" We will not bow to your dictation. We are free. We bled to be free.
Who are you to tell us what we may and may not do? We stopped being your slaves an era ago. "
South Reinkalistan is a massive, ecologically-diverse nation notable for its roving student militias and widespread hatred for the elderly.
In the midst of a room-temperature cultural revolution that's lost its momentum, the Party carefully plans its next move.
As the brittle bones of fragile empires begin to crack beneath their own weight, history's symphony reaches crescendo pitch. The future is all but certain.

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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:58 pm

Just to clarify, while I note that you haven't actually referred to any of the ships sunk as battleships, you did mention them having "inordinately large guns." Are these things supposed to be (possibly larger than normal) modern guided missile cruisers, or are we talking about legit WWII-era battleships (which are pretty much totally obsolete in the modern day)?

Also, regarding the above two posts, as the ships were sunk in port, you should be able to raise and repair them. Though depending on how damaged they are (or how old they are) scrapping may indeed be the more economical option.

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The Chuck
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Postby The Chuck » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:23 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:Just to clarify, while I note that you haven't actually referred to any of the ships sunk as battleships, you did mention them having "inordinately large guns." Are these things supposed to be (possibly larger than normal) modern guided missile cruisers, or are we talking about legit WWII-era battleships (which are pretty much totally obsolete in the modern day)?

Also, regarding the above two posts, as the ships were sunk in port, you should be able to raise and repair them. Though depending on how damaged they are (or how old they are) scrapping may indeed be the more economical option.


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Republican Cabinda
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Postby Republican Cabinda » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:40 pm

Official Nation Name (Include Pretitle): The Republic of Cabinda
I have read and agreed to the rules (Y/N): Y
IC intentions: To monitor the region and protect Cabindan interests, while officially remaining neutral.
IC attitude towards South Reinkalistan (Pro/Anti): Officially Neutral, but there is a private distrust of South Reinkalistan.
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IC Year: 2019.

Cabinda Daily: Gay Rights activists block a street in the City in Cabinda, commuters peeved... Rig manager arrested for illegally trafficking oil to the Republic of Congo... Committee to potentially rename the City of Cabinda founded... Africa by Toto played for 24 hours by tourists, causing mass hatred against the song...

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South Reinkalistan
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:45 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:Just to clarify, while I note that you haven't actually referred to any of the ships sunk as battleships, you did mention them having "inordinately large guns." Are these things supposed to be (possibly larger than normal) modern guided missile cruisers, or are we talking about legit WWII-era battleships (which are pretty much totally obsolete in the modern day)?

Also, regarding the above two posts, as the ships were sunk in port, you should be able to raise and repair them. Though depending on how damaged they are (or how old they are) scrapping may indeed be the more economical option.

The Red Fleet does not commission battleships, for obvious reasons. The three capital ships sunk were large battlecruisers.

Republican Cabinda wrote:Official Nation Name (Include Pretitle): The Republic of Cabinda
I have read and agreed to the rules (Y/N): Y
IC intentions: To monitor the region and protect Cabindan interests, while officially remaining neutral.
IC attitude towards South Reinkalistan (Pro/Anti): Officially Neutral, but there is a private distrust of South Reinkalistan.

ACCEPTED

Okay, I'm writing up a post now.
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THE PEOPLE ETERNAL
" We will not bow to your dictation. We are free. We bled to be free.
Who are you to tell us what we may and may not do? We stopped being your slaves an era ago. "
South Reinkalistan is a massive, ecologically-diverse nation notable for its roving student militias and widespread hatred for the elderly.
In the midst of a room-temperature cultural revolution that's lost its momentum, the Party carefully plans its next move.
As the brittle bones of fragile empires begin to crack beneath their own weight, history's symphony reaches crescendo pitch. The future is all but certain.

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UniversalCommons
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Postby UniversalCommons » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:07 pm

Were the battlecruisers nuclear or diesel powered? Curious.

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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:38 am

*twiddles thumbs*

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Free United States
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Postby Free United States » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:42 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:*twiddles thumbs*


You too?

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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:28 am

Guess I'll post an ORBAT, since it seems this is at least trying to continue.

Iris and one of the submarines are in the area of Turaniskidak, the sub being further out. The rest are several hundred miles roughly to the northeast.

ORBAT:
Strike Group Nenya:
  • 1 x Nenya-class light carrier (CVL): MNS Nenya
  • 1 x Fëacir-class command cruiser (CCGN): MNS Arthedain
  • 2 x Telerin-class destroyers (DDG): MNS Idrildur, Calindon
  • 5 x Elwing-class frigates (FFG): MNS Iris, Gilbrith, Pelen, Ecet, Numena
  • 2 x Uinen-class attack submarines (SSN): MNS Surinen, Faron Din

Gilgalad-class supercarrier:
  • Length: 1120 ft, Beam: 258 ft
  • Cost: ~$12 billion
  • Designed/Introduced: late 1990s to early 2000s
  • Power/Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, 4 shafts, EMALS
  • Speed: >30 kts
  • Air Wing:
    • 56 x F/A-19 Thunderhawks (multi-role fighter)
    • 8 x EA-19 Electrohawks (electronic warfare aircraft)
    • 6 x E-2 Hawkeyes (AEW&C aircraft)
    • 6 x MH-60S Seahawks (multi-purpose utility helicopter)
    • 16 x MH-60R Seahawks (anti-sub helicopter)
    • 18 x Reconnaissance UAVs
    • Total: 92+18 (70 aircraft, 22 helicopters, 18 UAVs)
Nenya-class light carrier:
  • Length: 850 ft, Beam: 200 ft
  • Cost: ~$5 billion
  • Designed/Introduced: early 2010s
  • Power/Propulsion: CODAG, Integrated Electric Propulsion, 4 shafts, EMALS
  • Speed: >30 kts
  • Range: 20,000 nmi @ 20 kts
  • Air Wing:
    • 26 x F/A-19 Thunderhawks
    • 4 x EA-19 Electrohawks
    • 4 x E-2 Hawkeyes
    • 4 x MH-60S Seahawks
    • 8 x MH-60R Seahawks
    • 12 x Reconnaissance UAVs (folded and racked)
    • Total: 46+12 (34 aircraft, 12 helicopters, 12 recon drones)
Fëacir-class command cruiser:
  • Length: 650 ft, Beam: 84 ft
  • Cost: $5.3 billion
  • Designed/Introduced: early-mid 2000s
  • Power/Propulsion: 2 nuclear reactors, electric motors (IEP), 2-4 shafts with shrouded props / pump-jets
  • Speed: >30 kts
  • Range: unlimited (nuclear)
  • Crew: ~600-650
  • Boats: 2+ x RHIBs, 4 x Fleet-class unmanned surface vessels
  • Aviation: 3 x MH-60 helicopters and 6 x MQ-18 Hummingbird UAVs, or 5-6 x MH-60 helicopters; landing pad and hangar
  • Sensors and Processing Systems:
    • Aeglos Combat and Battle Management System
    • X-band AESA multi-function radar (MFR)
    • S-band AESA volume search (VSR), long-range early warning, and ballistic missile defense radar
    • Forward and side looking sonar arrays
    • Variable depth towed array sonar
  • Armament:
    • 2 x 64-cell strike length Mk 41 VLS
      • 64 x RIM-170 Artemis (extended range SAM)
      • 64 x RIM-171 Athena (long range SAM)
    • 2 x 32-cell strike length Mk 41 VLS
      • 40 x RGM-111 Fëanar (stealthy anti-ship and land attack cruise missile)
      • 24 x RIM-161 SM-3 (ABM)
    • 4 x 8-cell self-defense length Mk 41 VLS
    • 2 x 5"/54 or 5"/62 guns
    • 2 x 35mm Millennium Gun CIWS
    • 2 x SeaRAM CIWS
    • 2 x LaWS lasers
    • 2 x triple anti-submarine torpedo tubes
Telerin-class destroyer:
  • Length: 545 ft, Beam: 70 ft
  • Cost: $2-2.5 billion
  • Designed/Introduced: early 2000s
  • Power/Propulsion: CODAG inetgrated electric propulsion, 2 shafts with shrouded props/pump-jets
  • Speed: >30 kts
  • Range: 10,000 nmi @ 20 kts, 5500 nmi @ 30 kts
  • Crew: ~300
  • Boats: 2 x RHIB, 2 x Fleet-class USV
  • Aviation: 2 x MH-60 helicopters, 2 x MQ-18 Hummingbird UAV, landing pad and hangars
  • Sensors and Processing Systems:
    • Aeglos Combat System
    • X-band AESA multi-function radar
    • S-band AESA volume search radar
    • Forward and side-looking sonar arrays
    • Variable depth towed array sonar
  • Armament:
    • 2 x 64-cell strike length Mk 41 VLS
      • 40 x RIM-170 Artemis
      • 40 x RIM-171 Athena
      • 32 x RGM-111 Fëanar
      • 8 x RIM-161 SM-3
      • 8 x RUM-125 Sea Lance (anti-sub missile)
    • 2 x 8-cell self-defense length Mk 41 VLS
      • 64 x RIM-162 ESSM
    • 1 x 5"/54 or 5"/62 gun
    • 2 x 35mm Millennium Gun CIWS (aft corners of hangar)
    • 1 x SeaRAM CIWS
    • 1 x LaWS laser
    • 2 x triple anti-submarine torpedo tubes
Elwing-class frigate:
  • Length: 420 ft, Beam: 58 ft, Draft: 13 ft(?)
  • Cost: $500-750 million
  • Designed/Introduced: early 2010s
  • Power/Propulsion: CODAG, 2-4 waterjets
  • Speed: 35 kts
  • Range: 6000 nmi @ 20 kts, 3300 nmi @ 30 kts
  • Crew: ~100-150
  • Boats: 1-2 x RHIB, 2 x Fleet-class unmanned surface vessels
  • Aviation: 1 x MH-60 helicopter, 1 x MQ-18 UAV, landing pad and hangar
  • Sensors and Processing Systems:
    • Aeglos-Lite Combat System
    • Lightweight 3D AESA radar
    • Forward and side looking sonar arrays
    • Variable depth towed array sonar
    • Fleet-class USVs have towed sonar
  • Armament:
    • 2 x 16-cell strike length Mk 41 VLS
      • 24 x RIM-169 Apollo (long range SAM)
      • 8 x RUM-125 Sea Lance
    • 1 x 12-cell self-defense length Mk 41 VLS
      • 48 x RIM-162 ESSM
    • 24 x Naval Strike Missile (4 sextuple box launchers) (anti-ship missile)
    • 1 x 3"/62 Super Rapid gun
    • 1 x 35mm Millennium Gun CIWS (aft)
    • 1 x SeaRAM CIWS
    • 1 x LaWS laser
    • 4 x triple anti-submarine torpedo tubes
Ossë-class guided missile attack submarine:
  • Length: 410 ft, Beam: 40 ft
  • Cost: $3-3.5 billion
  • Designed/Introduced: mid-late 1990s
  • Power/Propulsion: nuclear reactor, batteries, pump-jet propulsor
  • Speed: 35 kts submerged
  • Range: unlimited (nuclear)
  • Test Depth: officially 800+ ft (actually 1600 ft; crush depth 2500+ ft)
  • Crew: ~120-140
  • Armament:
    • 8 x 26" torpedo tubes
      • 50 x torpedoes, missiles, 21" MOSS decoys, mines
    • 8 x 7-cell VLS silos
Uinen-class hunter-killer attack submarine:
  • Length: 340 ft, Beam: 36 ft
  • Cost: $2-2.8 billion
  • Designed/Introduced: early 2010s
  • Power/Propulsion: nuclear reactor, lithium-ion batteries, IEP, pump-jet propulsor
  • Speed: >30 kts submerged
  • Range: unlimited (nuclear)
  • Test Depth: 800+ ft (actually ~1800 ft; crush depth 2700+ ft)
  • Crew: ~70
  • Armament:
    • 6 x 26" torpedo tubes (36 weapon racks)
    • 2 x 7-cell VLS silos
      • 13 x UGM-111 Fëanar
      • 4 x IDAS SAM (1 cell)
RIM-170 Artemis:
  • Type: surface-to-air, anti-ship missile defense, terminal ballistic missile defense
  • Unit cost: ~$15-20 million
  • Length: 21 ft, Diameter: 21"
  • Range: 350 nmi
  • Speed: mach 5
  • Warhead: 300 lb directional blast fragmentation, proximity and contact fuse
  • Guidance: inertial/GPS guidance, semi-active radar, networked datalink and IIF receiver, terminal high off-boresight multimode active/semi-active radar and IIR/UV seeker with passive radar homing and home-on-jam capabilities
  • Propulsion: 2-stage solid-fuel rocket; thrust vectoring, nose or tail fin control surfaces, lateral attitude control thrusters
  • Additional Notes/Features:
    • Extreme maneuverability
    • Hit-to-kill accuracy
    • Will not accidentally lock onto friendly aircraft thanks to IFF receiver; can be launched into the middle of a dogfight
    • If misses, will pull a 180 and try again (seeker must reacquire lock after turn, or just rely on datalink) and/or fly a search pattern to reacquire target or find a new one
RIM-171 Athena:
  • Type: surface-to-air, anti-ship missile defense
  • Unit cost: ~$8-10 million (includes cost of submunitions at ~$1.5-2 million each)
  • Length: 21 ft, Diameter: 21"
  • Range: 150 nmi total, ~50 km for submunitions
  • Speed: mach 3 initial, mach 4 for submunitions
  • Warhead: 4 x submunition missiles, 50 lb blast fragmentation each
  • Guidance: inertial/GPS guidance, semi-active radar, networked datalink; submunitions: active radar homing with home-on-jam capability
  • Propulsion: solid-fuel ramjet/throttleable ducted rocket, solid-fuel rocket submunitions
  • Additional Notes/Features:
    • Submunitions are comparable to AIM-120 AMRAAM, but a few feet shorter due to reduced range requirements
    • Each submunition can engage a different target, or all 4 can engage the same target
    • Submunitions each have a ~63% probability of kill (same as AMRAAM)
    • Has over a 98% probability of kill if all submunitions engage same target (probability that at least one hits)
    • Submunitions released in sequence at around 20-25km to target
RIM-169 Apollo:
  • Type: surface-to-air, anti-ship missile defense, terminal ballistic missile defense
  • Unit cost: ~$5 million
  • Length: 18 ft, Diameter: 21"
  • Range: 150 nmi
  • Speed: mach 3.5
  • Warhead: 500 lb directional blast fragmentation, proximity and contact fuse
  • Guidance: inertial/GPS guidance, semi-active radar, 2-way datalink, active/semi-active radar homing with home-on-jam capability
  • Propulsion: solid-fuel rocket
  • Additional Notes/Features:
    • Predecessor of RIM-171 Athena; still commonly used on ships like frigates that have limited VLS cells as it is considered a better multipurpose weapon than RIM-171
    • Latest versions include software updates that allow it to serve in anti-ship and land attack roles
RGM-111 Fëanar:
  • Type: stealthy anti-ship and land attack cruise missile
  • Unit cost: ~$3.5 million
  • Length: 21 ft, Diameter: 21"
  • Range: 1000 nmi, sea-skimming terminal approach with optional pop-up
  • Speed: high subsonic; about mach 0.8
  • Warhead: 1000 lb blast fragmentation penetrator
  • Guidance: inertial/GPS guidance, networked datalink and IIF receiver, terminal active radar and IIR seeker with target/image recognition
  • Propulsion: solid-fuel rocket booster, turbofan engine
  • Additional Notes/Features:
    • Stealthy airframe
    • Performs pseudo-random maneuvers in the terminal phase to throw off CIWSs
    • Capable of autonomous targeting and coordinating attacks with other networked missiles
AIM-154 ALRAAM (Phoenix II):
  • Type: long-range air-to-air missile
  • Unit cost: ~$2.5 million
  • Length: 13 ft, Diameter: 15"
  • Range: 200 nmi
  • Speed: mach 5
  • Warhead: 4 x submunition missiles, 5 lb blast fragmentation each
  • Guidance: inertial, passive and semi-active radar homing, midcourse update via datalink; submunitions: dual mode IIR and millimeter-wave radar seeker
  • Propulsion: solid-fuel ramjet/throttleable ducted rocket, submunitions solid-fuel rocket
  • Additional Notes/Features:
    • Designed as an AWACS and strategic bomber killer
    • Submunitions released a mile from target
    • Submunitions based on NAVAIR Spike and/or Pyros bomb

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Yegla Islands
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Postby Yegla Islands » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:09 pm

@Piikala, whose ships are you getting ready to enter combat with? I couldn't really determine it when reading your post.
     

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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:11 pm

Yegla Islands wrote:@Piikala, whose ships are you getting ready to enter combat with? I couldn't really determine it when reading your post.

I read it as directed at whoever feels like responding. I'm working on a post claiming it was mine, because my sub needs something to do.

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Yegla Islands
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Postby Yegla Islands » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:45 pm

Technically my (nominally neutral) forces are in the area. That's the main reason I'm asking - were he to attack them for whatever reason, he'd basically be declaring war.
     

Dictator-backed dedication to absolute civil freedoms, ultrabureaucratic pseudo-socialism and heavily-armed neutrality.
Fueled by PMT*/FanT nanopunk schizotech, eldritch red tape and snazzy neo-cold war aesthetics on a broken continent.


✯ Factbooks are currently in the middle of a Big™ Rewrite™, almost everything's out of date and ugly. Don't read them. ✯
This nation uses NS stats. Sort of. In a general kind of way.
*Definitions of "Post", "Modern" and "Technology" may vary

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Piikala
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Founded: May 15, 2018
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Postby Piikala » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:11 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:
Yegla Islands wrote:@Piikala, whose ships are you getting ready to enter combat with? I couldn't really determine it when reading your post.

I read it as directed at whoever feels like responding. I'm working on a post claiming it was mine, because my sub needs something to do.


I meant for it to be directed at the Free United States, but you can also respond I don't matter. Just hope it turns out good and is fun to write.
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