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This is the factbook that I will keep updated regarding all national statistics and information.
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Postby Nacrad » Fri May 22, 2020 6:25 pm

I just noticed that Grand Indochina has laid a claim to the west of me. If I war them and win (due to bigger army diplomacy), am I required to annex all of it, or am I allowed to annex some and puppet the rest?
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Oceanor's Application (V.2)

Postby Oceanor » Fri May 22, 2020 6:33 pm

Earth X
Application for Membership


You're required to fill this form out in full. If you need help, please visit our Discord for assistance. Incomplete applications will not be accepted.

Part 1: The Basics
Use this section to fill out your Basic National Information.

  • Membership Type: Full Member
  • Power Level: Regional Power
  • Nation Name: Oceanor
  • Demonym: Oceanorian
  • Capital: Santo Domingo
  • Founding Date: July 28, 1993
  • Official Language(s): Hañeris
  • Official Religion: N/A
  • Government Type: Confederacy
  • Head of State: Ivan García
  • Head of Government: Ivan García
  • GDP Per Capita: 13,745.33
  • GDP Total (PPP): 1,219,661,800,000
  • Population: 88,732,829
  • Currency: Nautilen
  • Summer Time: No
  • Calling Code: +990
  • Internet TLD: .oc
  • Maritime Boundary (nm): 20nm
  • Military Size: 900,000
    • Active Personnel: 700,000
    • Reserve Personnel: 200,000
  • Weapons of Mass Destruction? (Y/N and amounts of each listed item. Use N/A if not applicable):
    • Chemical: 60
    • Biological: 1
    • Radiological: N/A
    • Nuclear: N/A

Part 2: Where's Your Nation At?
Tell us what part of the map has caused your brain to get excited! Remember, as a New Member, you're limited to a total area of two million square kilometers (2,000,000 km2), though you are not required to claim all of it. Please list each entity separately. We will be double checking. Also, please include the square area in kilometers for each claimed territory in your list.

List of Claimed Territory
  • The Caribbean (235,667 km²) (The table lists the specifics. Note that the Federal Dependencies of Venezuela do not comprise the mainland)
  • Bermuda (53.2 km²)
  • Guatemala (108,888 km²)
  • Belize (22,965 km²)
  • Honduras (112,492 km²)
  • El Salvador (21,041 km²)
  • Nicaragua (129,999 km²)
  • Costa Rica (51,100 km²)
  • Panama (75,517 km²) (I’m wondering if the canal is there in Earth X. If it is, then I understand if you don’t want me having Panama)
    Total: 606,882.2 km²

Part 3: Tell Us About Your Claim
It's all well and good to know where a claim is, but we also want to know why you're claiming what you're claiming. Please tell us a summary of your idea for your nation so we can get a better understanding as to how you will fit into the broader Earth X group.
Since my “Pacific Wall” thing was a little arrogant, I’ve decided to make a more comfortable nation. I plan for it to be sort of a diplomatic nation, like Canada or Switzerland. It’ll be a Confederacy, so the inner government will be decentralized. I’ll write more about it’s background if I get accepted. I won’t be using the Caribbeans actual culture or history, I’ll make fictional ones for the universe. So it'll basically be a medium sized diplomatic confederacy struggling with internal schisms.

Part 4: Please Tell A Bit Us About Yourself.
Please note, you are not required to tell us information you feel uncomfortable sharing.
Age: 14
How long have you been on NationStates?
I was active a year or so ago, but then I got back into the game recently and I’m really enjoying it.
Have you ever been part of an RP group before? Nope

Some more about you so we can get to know you better:
Well, I play three instruments (Violin, Baritone Saxophone, and Viola) and I love music in general. I enjoy LOTR and Dan Brown books. I’m also fascinated by geopolitics, hence the NationStates accounts.

Part 4: RP Examples
You do not have to be a prolific writer to join our group, but we do ask you to show us a few examples of previous RP experience.
I haven't done an RP yet, but I have written a Constitution: The Constitution of Prosperon
And I've also written some other factbook stuff: A Bold Beginning and The Culture of Prosperon
(The account i'm using is a puppet, Prosperon is my main nation.)


Do you understand what is required of you before you submit this application?
Before you submit, make sure you understand what you're asking for. If you're not sure, please reread the above FAQ or ask us for help in our Discord! Please type YES or NO.
Yes!
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Postby The United Conservative Provinces » Fri May 22, 2020 6:40 pm

Nacrad wrote:I just noticed that Grand Indochina has laid a claim to the west of me. If I war them and win (due to bigger army diplomacy), am I required to annex all of it, or am I allowed to annex some and puppet the rest?

I have a similar question. If I win a war against another nation, am I allowed to annex land from their initial claim or only from land expansions?
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Postby Earth X Apps » Fri May 22, 2020 8:15 pm

Nacrad wrote:I just noticed that Grand Indochina has laid a claim to the west of me. If I war them and win (due to bigger army diplomacy), am I required to annex all of it, or am I allowed to annex some and puppet the rest?


You're not guaranteed that Grand Indochina will want to war with you and, even if GI does, you're not guaranteed to win.

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Nacrad wrote:I just noticed that Grand Indochina has laid a claim to the west of me. If I war them and win (due to bigger army diplomacy), am I required to annex all of it, or am I allowed to annex some and puppet the rest?

I have a similar question. If I win a war against another nation, am I allowed to annex land from their initial claim or only from land expansions?


Providing you don't go over 2 million square kilometers in size. Though, in the modern day, annexation of territory isn't really done anymore. You destroy your enemy, build them back up, then they out perform you for 50 years.
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Postby Earth X Apps » Fri May 22, 2020 8:16 pm

Oceanor wrote:
Earth X
Application for Membership


You're required to fill this form out in full. If you need help, please visit our Discord for assistance. Incomplete applications will not be accepted.

Part 1: The Basics
Use this section to fill out your Basic National Information.

  • Membership Type: Full Member
  • Power Level: Regional Power
  • Nation Name: Oceanor
  • Demonym: Oceanorian
  • Capital: Santo Domingo
  • Founding Date: July 28, 1993
  • Official Language(s): Hañeris
  • Official Religion: N/A
  • Government Type: Confederacy
  • Head of State: Ivan García
  • Head of Government: Ivan García
  • GDP Per Capita: 13,745.33
  • GDP Total (PPP): 1,219,661,800,000
  • Population: 88,732,829
  • Currency: Nautilen
  • Summer Time: No
  • Calling Code: +990
  • Internet TLD: .oc
  • Maritime Boundary (nm): 20nm
  • Military Size: 900,000
    • Active Personnel: 700,000
    • Reserve Personnel: 200,000
  • Weapons of Mass Destruction? (Y/N and amounts of each listed item. Use N/A if not applicable):
    • Chemical: 60
    • Biological: 1
    • Radiological: N/A
    • Nuclear: N/A

Part 2: Where's Your Nation At?
Tell us what part of the map has caused your brain to get excited! Remember, as a New Member, you're limited to a total area of two million square kilometers (2,000,000 km2), though you are not required to claim all of it. Please list each entity separately. We will be double checking. Also, please include the square area in kilometers for each claimed territory in your list.

List of Claimed Territory
  • The Caribbean (235,667 km²) (The table lists the specifics. Note that the Federal Dependencies of Venezuela do not comprise the mainland)
  • Bermuda (53.2 km²)
  • Guatemala (108,888 km²)
  • Belize (22,965 km²)
  • Honduras (112,492 km²)
  • El Salvador (21,041 km²)
  • Nicaragua (129,999 km²)
  • Costa Rica (51,100 km²)
  • Panama (75,517 km²) (I’m wondering if the canal is there in Earth X. If it is, then I understand if you don’t want me having Panama)
    Total: 606,882.2 km²

Part 3: Tell Us About Your Claim
It's all well and good to know where a claim is, but we also want to know why you're claiming what you're claiming. Please tell us a summary of your idea for your nation so we can get a better understanding as to how you will fit into the broader Earth X group.
Since my “Pacific Wall” thing was a little arrogant, I’ve decided to make a more comfortable nation. I plan for it to be sort of a diplomatic nation, like Canada or Switzerland. It’ll be a Confederacy, so the inner government will be decentralized. I’ll write more about it’s background if I get accepted. I won’t be using the Caribbeans actual culture or history, I’ll make fictional ones for the universe. So it'll basically be a medium sized diplomatic confederacy struggling with internal schisms.

Part 4: Please Tell A Bit Us About Yourself.
Please note, you are not required to tell us information you feel uncomfortable sharing.
Age: 14
How long have you been on NationStates?
I was active a year or so ago, but then I got back into the game recently and I’m really enjoying it.
Have you ever been part of an RP group before? Nope

Some more about you so we can get to know you better:
Well, I play three instruments (Violin, Baritone Saxophone, and Viola) and I love music in general. I enjoy LOTR and Dan Brown books. I’m also fascinated by geopolitics, hence the NationStates accounts.

Part 4: RP Examples
You do not have to be a prolific writer to join our group, but we do ask you to show us a few examples of previous RP experience.
I haven't done an RP yet, but I have written a Constitution: The Constitution of Prosperon
And I've also written some other factbook stuff: A Bold Beginning and The Culture of Prosperon
(The account i'm using is a puppet, Prosperon is my main nation.)


Do you understand what is required of you before you submit this application?
Before you submit, make sure you understand what you're asking for. If you're not sure, please reread the above FAQ or ask us for help in our Discord! Please type YES or NO.
Yes!

The Founders will talk and get you an answer tomorrow. Applications are approved only once per day, so tomorrow afternoon at the very latest (US Eastern Time).
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Postby -Roma Invicta- » Sat May 23, 2020 3:27 am

Just to make a point with regards to the comments regarding war, and bear in mind this is the person playing Rome. This is a writing group that focuses, of course, on geopolitics, and as such it is entirely possible that the various nation's we portray will have different geopolitical aims, interests and agendas, any of which might conflict with those of another, leading to tensions, incidents, and, yes, even war. However, this is also a group set in the modern era, in which balls-out wars of aggression are not the norm, even with a different history and background this is unlikely to be the different, particularly as the group's very existence and success relies upon co-operation between the members.

War and Conflict give many, many great opportunities for writing interesting, compelling stories, however it is also best that they make sense; that they are the culmination of rising tensions and the like, rather than just someone deciding they want to launch an invasion for extra land. My point is simple; war in Earth X should be for in-character (IC) reasons, not for an out-of-character (OOC) desire for additional land, especially when there is so much unclaimed land available. Moreover, as is stated above there is no guarantee that the invader would win and anyone launching an unprovoked war of aggression is likely to find themselves attracting the attention of those Great Powers whose own interests would be threatened by a regional conflict.

I'm not making this point to stymy anyone's creativity, I personally love writing war and conflict for the many interesting writing opportunities they provide, I'm just outlining how I feel, and I'm sure my colleagues feel, that such a game-changing concept such as war should be handled in Earth X.

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Postby Earth X Apps » Sat May 23, 2020 8:43 am

Oceanor wrote:
Earth X
Application for Membership


You're required to fill this form out in full. If you need help, please visit our Discord for assistance. Incomplete applications will not be accepted.

Part 1: The Basics
Use this section to fill out your Basic National Information.

  • Membership Type: Full Member
  • Power Level: Regional Power
  • Nation Name: Oceanor
  • Demonym: Oceanorian
  • Capital: Santo Domingo
  • Founding Date: July 28, 1993
  • Official Language(s): Hañeris
  • Official Religion: N/A
  • Government Type: Confederacy
  • Head of State: Ivan García
  • Head of Government: Ivan García
  • GDP Per Capita: 13,745.33
  • GDP Total (PPP): 1,219,661,800,000
  • Population: 88,732,829
  • Currency: Nautilen
  • Summer Time: No
  • Calling Code: +990
  • Internet TLD: .oc
  • Maritime Boundary (nm): 20nm
  • Military Size: 900,000
    • Active Personnel: 700,000
    • Reserve Personnel: 200,000
  • Weapons of Mass Destruction? (Y/N and amounts of each listed item. Use N/A if not applicable):
    • Chemical: 60
    • Biological: 1
    • Radiological: N/A
    • Nuclear: N/A

Part 2: Where's Your Nation At?
Tell us what part of the map has caused your brain to get excited! Remember, as a New Member, you're limited to a total area of two million square kilometers (2,000,000 km2), though you are not required to claim all of it. Please list each entity separately. We will be double checking. Also, please include the square area in kilometers for each claimed territory in your list.

List of Claimed Territory
  • The Caribbean (235,667 km²) (The table lists the specifics. Note that the Federal Dependencies of Venezuela do not comprise the mainland)
  • Bermuda (53.2 km²)
  • Guatemala (108,888 km²)
  • Belize (22,965 km²)
  • Honduras (112,492 km²)
  • El Salvador (21,041 km²)
  • Nicaragua (129,999 km²)
  • Costa Rica (51,100 km²)
  • Panama (75,517 km²) (I’m wondering if the canal is there in Earth X. If it is, then I understand if you don’t want me having Panama)
    Total: 606,882.2 km²

Part 3: Tell Us About Your Claim
It's all well and good to know where a claim is, but we also want to know why you're claiming what you're claiming. Please tell us a summary of your idea for your nation so we can get a better understanding as to how you will fit into the broader Earth X group.
Since my “Pacific Wall” thing was a little arrogant, I’ve decided to make a more comfortable nation. I plan for it to be sort of a diplomatic nation, like Canada or Switzerland. It’ll be a Confederacy, so the inner government will be decentralized. I’ll write more about it’s background if I get accepted. I won’t be using the Caribbeans actual culture or history, I’ll make fictional ones for the universe. So it'll basically be a medium sized diplomatic confederacy struggling with internal schisms.

Part 4: Please Tell A Bit Us About Yourself.
Please note, you are not required to tell us information you feel uncomfortable sharing.
Age: 14
How long have you been on NationStates?
I was active a year or so ago, but then I got back into the game recently and I’m really enjoying it.
Have you ever been part of an RP group before? Nope

Some more about you so we can get to know you better:
Well, I play three instruments (Violin, Baritone Saxophone, and Viola) and I love music in general. I enjoy LOTR and Dan Brown books. I’m also fascinated by geopolitics, hence the NationStates accounts.

Part 4: RP Examples
You do not have to be a prolific writer to join our group, but we do ask you to show us a few examples of previous RP experience.
I haven't done an RP yet, but I have written a Constitution: The Constitution of Prosperon
And I've also written some other factbook stuff: A Bold Beginning and The Culture of Prosperon
(The account i'm using is a puppet, Prosperon is my main nation.)


Do you understand what is required of you before you submit this application?
Before you submit, make sure you understand what you're asking for. If you're not sure, please reread the above FAQ or ask us for help in our Discord! Please type YES or NO.
Yes!

Oceanor your application has been APPROVED. We look forward to reading your introduction thread!
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Postby Earth X Apps » Sat May 23, 2020 12:50 pm

Map Updates


Oceanor has been added to the Initial/Pending Claims map.
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Postby Earth X Apps » Sat May 23, 2020 2:45 pm

Oceanor, regarding the Panama Canal, that exists if you want it to. If you don't want it to, then that's your decision.
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Postby Chrinthania » Sat May 23, 2020 6:41 pm

War is a horrible sin of humankind. It should be abolished. That being said, if Chrinthania is to war, it is to war to win and win it shall for it will not stop until it does. Or until we find a better surf break. Whichever comes first.
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Postby The United Conservative Provinces » Sat May 23, 2020 6:53 pm

Chrinthania wrote:War is a horrible sin of humankind. It should be abolished. That being said, if Chrinthania is to war, it is to war to win and win it shall for it will not stop until it does. Or until we find a better surf break. Whichever comes first.

I agree war is horrible, but it is often necessary. When there is an oppressive government, citizens need to be able to rebel in order to attain freedom. It would be interesting to war against Chrinthania, but seeing that your nation has the most powerful claim, it would not be wise on my part lol.
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Oceanor's Introductory Thread

Postby Oceanor » Sat May 23, 2020 6:54 pm

I've just completed the first chapter of my initial thread, and it's at this link: Oceanor's Introductory Thread - "Divided in Unity". I am hoping to eventually get my claim upgraded from Pending to Completed. Thanks for reading it if you do!
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Postby The United Conservative Provinces » Sat May 23, 2020 7:59 pm

I have another question for the OP. Do we assume that each nation already has embassies and ambassadors to all other nations or should we set those up via RP?
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Postby Earth X Apps » Sat May 23, 2020 8:35 pm

Oceanor wrote:I've just completed my initial thread, and it's at this link: Oceanor's Introductory Thread - "Divided in Unity". I am hoping to get my claim upgraded from Pending to Completed. Thanks for reading it if you do!

That's a great history post for a factbook. It's not a completed introduction thread. By definition, a thread is multiple posts long and tells a complete story. Also, it's really not good to kill off Christopher Columbus and leave the rest of Earth X's North American nations without that bit of history. Since Columbus would've sailed from the Roman's territory (whatever form it took in the late 15th and early 16th centuries) that wouldn't even be your right to kill him off since, as with every claim on NS as a whole, you cannot kill another nation's characters (historical or otherwise) without the consent of the player who owns that nation. It is, quite honestly, bad RP form.

I know we're being harsh on these intro threads, but the next post down will explain (again) why we are being more harsh on it (but not in as much detail as a few posts up from here).

The United Conservative Provinces wrote:I have another question for the OP. Do we assume that each nation already has embassies and ambassadors to all other nations or should we set those up via RP?


Either or, really. It's assumed we all have them set up already, but it isn't a hard and fast rule. Sometimes people like to RP the establishment of foreign relations, others like to have that part already agreed upon and they work with RPing the continuation of diplomatic relations. Excellent question, by the way! Glad we could help! And you don't have to address the Apps Puppet as "OP" you can just ask the question, friend! :D
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Postby Earth X Apps » Sat May 23, 2020 8:49 pm

Earth X: Understanding Basic RP Writing Concepts Series
Part 1: Paragraphs, Posts, and Threads


Your intro threads aren't completed after one or two posts. Every day almost we're hit up with a TG or message from someone telling us that their intro thread is done and... really, it's not even started. Again, as was written many posts above, it should tell a whole story. We get it, some folks want to expand even more. We understand. We know that feeling for we've done this ourselves in other RP groups. This is, again, your chance to introduce us, the Earth X community, to your nation. What we don't want to do is dictate how many posts that should be, but it's clearly becoming an issue that we're leaving it more vague and free form in order to give you more flexibility. A simple reading of some of these threads that are being called 'completed' aren't telling us much of anything and, frankly, aren't completed. Yes, we're going to be more harsh on this particular thread than any other you may post in the future. We have to be because, again, this thread is showing your dedication to helping to build up Earth X as a whole. It should be an exhibition of your writing skill. It should showcase your ability to carry an entire story from start to finish. Frankly, and this may seem harsh again, but, by proving your dedication to writing RPs in our group with your introduction thread, you get a prize. That prize is Full Membership and up to a total of 10 million square kilometers for your nation to expand. And remember, there are only just under 149 milliion square kilometers of land in the entire world, so we're going to be really picky on letting people get to the point they could take up to 6.7% of the total land area of the Earth in a single claim.

So, we're going to start by giving an idea of basic RP thread writing principles right here, right now for you to begin to understand just what is desired not just from an introduction thread, but from every thread in Earth X.

Paragraphs: these convey a single idea. They usually start with a sentence to introduce that idea and several supporting sentences to round out the idea. The rules as to what constitute a paragraph are as varied as the amount of paragraphs ever written, but in general the kind of writing we're doing here (prose writing) should have a basic paragraph structure around 100-300 words long. That should be enough to get a basic idea across to your reader because the thread isn't written just for you, but for them as well. By writing a paragraph in that 100-300 word range, you convey a lot of information to the reader who can then process that information and begin to form a vague image in their head of the scene as it unfolds including the smells, the sounds, the feelings, the sights, and who is important and who isn't. If you're not putting enough information in your paragraph, it falls flat and leaves the reader confused, unsure, and many times unwilling to continue reading any further. It's important to get the paragraph right because a string of paragraphs will create a single post.

And speaking of posts....

Posts: think of these like chapters of a book. Each post, like a paragraph, will also convey a single cohesive idea. In a novel, the rough ideal word count for a chapter is 2,000-5,000 words. Too short and the chapter feels incomplete and too long the reader will get bored or feel bombarded with words. In an RP on NationStates, that many words can be considered a big WALL OF TEXT that may or may not attract people to read it. We would say that if you're aiming for 100-300 words per paragraph, then you would need around 4-5 paragraphs in your post. Not a hard-and-fast rule, but a nice rule of thumb. When you begin to weave these paragraphs and develop your idea further and further with each post, you start to create an entire world that your reader becomes invested in. They're going to want to keep reading because they're going to want to know what happens to your characters and whether or not your character achieves the goal or completes the quest. That's not something that can be accomplished by writing 70-100 word-total posts. It takes more words to accomplish this. And you know what happens after you develop several posts?

You get a thread.

Threads: Threads are just like a book. They tell an entire story. You could even compare them to novels. In general, most modern novels contain anywhere between 50,000 and 200,000 words, with a rough target of 60,000-100,000 words. Now, believe us when we say that's great for a novel, but perhaps overkill for a thread. Still, if we're being honest, in order to properly tell a story, your thread should be more than 5 posts. More than likely if you're writing good paragraphs and creating cohesive posts, your thread will begin to feel like it's taking on a life of its own and it'll keep growing. Somewhere along the way you'll tell the entire story. This could be done in 10 post. It may take 50 posts or more. That all depends on what story you are telling. There are no hard and fast rules on how many posts you need just like there are no hard and fast rules on how many chapters a book should have. The only guidelines that makes any sense is to use as many posts as you need to tell a cohesive and complete story from start to finish and everything in between.

We know this seems like a lot, but the reality is this a group for people who want to write. You don't have to be a great writer to join, but it helps if you have a basic idea of how stories are written and constructed. We're ALWAYS willing to help any way we can. If you need or want more guides, then please tell us down below. Don't like what we've put here? Not much else we can say to that other than this is what we are looking for. When you write good paragraphs, you create great chapters and several great chapters will make an excellent thread. And several excellent threads will make you become the envy of NationStates (potentially, we can't guarantee that).

Thanks for reading.
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Postby Chrinthania » Sun May 24, 2020 6:25 am

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Chrinthania wrote:War is a horrible sin of humankind. It should be abolished. That being said, if Chrinthania is to war, it is to war to win and win it shall for it will not stop until it does. Or until we find a better surf break. Whichever comes first.

I agree war is horrible, but it is often necessary. When there is an oppressive government, citizens need to be able to rebel in order to attain freedom. It would be interesting to war against Chrinthania, but seeing that your nation has the most powerful claim, it would not be wise on my part lol.

It's posts like this that concern me not in an in-character way, but an out of character way. This isn't Age of Empires or some game where the goal is to war with and conquer your neighbors. That's not the point of this at all. War is usually the last resort of most nations. Yeah, I know it doesn't seem like these days, but when you break it down, typically war isn't declared for light and transient reasons. Why would it be interesting to war against Chrinthania? Because we're big? Because we're liberal? Because we're a culture built on peace, love, and happiness? If those are your reasons, they're hardly reasons at all. If we've bombed your cities and towns, declared war on you, declared war on your ally... fine.

Who says who is being oppressed? Which nation has the right to decide whose citizens are being oppressed? Certainly not mine or yours or anyone else's. Even if the international community as an overall whole decides people are being oppressed, who is going to risk an all out war to deliver them from evil? There's literally 25 million starving North Korean who are brutally oppressed, but no one is going in to save them. Not because they couldn't, but because it would be an enormous loss of life on both sides and others involved.

People who think war is the best kind of RP always concern me. War is hard to RP properly. You have to write about troop movements. You can't declare war in the first post and in the second post have them invading a far-off land. You can launch an attack, but you have no right to decide what is and isn't destroyed in someone else's nation or how many were killed. You can't claim to have taken out their defenses at all because, guess what, that's not your claim and the other person has the right to decide what happens. You also don't have the right to decide you took no losses or a ridiculously low number of losses if you are attacked. Nor do you have the right to say your defenses eliminated the threat entirely. It's a very, very, very detail-oriented plot when you RP a war. If it's not done right, it goes from seemingly like good RP to godmodding in a heartbeat.

So, no, it wouldn't be interesting to war with anyone. Especially me.... because it will be slow and detailed and well written and that's the only way you can RP war.

That and, in spite of the large military and amount of WMDs, Chrinthania is more your force for peace. We're not interested in war except as the very last resort and will attempt to exhaust all other options first. Wielding power just because you can is not a sign of true strength. True strength is not unleashing the power unless there aren't any other options available.
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Postby Chrinthania » Sun May 24, 2020 6:28 am

Oceanor wrote:I've just completed the first chapter of my initial thread, and it's at this link: Oceanor's Introductory Thread - "Divided in Unity". I am hoping to eventually get my claim upgraded from Pending to Completed. Thanks for reading it if you do!

Columbus can land in the Yucatan or Florida then. If there's a Columbus at all. Roma Invicta is changing the history of Spain, so it may not have been Columbus the RL dude, but some stand in. Granted that I need it early, my hope is that Roma will grant some Columbus-alike in the late 1400s to land in Florida/Yucatan then.

The Application Puppet said everything else that's needed to be said about this.
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Postby Oceanor » Sun May 24, 2020 6:33 am

Chrinthania wrote:
Oceanor wrote:I've just completed the first chapter of my initial thread, and it's at this link: Oceanor's Introductory Thread - "Divided in Unity". I am hoping to eventually get my claim upgraded from Pending to Completed. Thanks for reading it if you do!

Columbus can land in the Yucatan or Florida then. The Application Puppet said everything else that's needed to be said about this.


Understood. I'll change the post so that Colombus does not die. But does that mean that I can't make my own character be the first to reach the Americas?
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Postby Chrinthania » Sun May 24, 2020 6:48 am

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Chrinthania wrote:Columbus can land in the Yucatan or Florida then. The Application Puppet said everything else that's needed to be said about this.


Understood. I'll change the post so that Colombus does not die. But does that mean that I can't make my own character be the first to reach the Americas?

What we need is to get a handle on who are the explorers that do appear in history and work that out. Since most of them would come from Rome's claim, we'll let him work on the who. I'm certain if you cooperate with him and others, in time we will work it all out happily among ourselves. Collaboration is the key to any successful RP group.
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Postby Oceanor » Sun May 24, 2020 6:51 am

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Understood. I'll change the post so that Colombus does not die. But does that mean that I can't make my own character be the first to reach the Americas?

What we need is to get a handle on who are the explorers that do appear in history and work that out. Since most of them would come from Rome's claim, we'll let him work on the who. I'm certain if you cooperate with him and others, in time we will work it all out happily among ourselves. Collaboration is the key to any successful RP group.


Got it. I'll talk with Roma Invictus regarding the explorers and the age of discovery.

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Postby Chrinthania » Sun May 24, 2020 6:53 am

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Chrinthania wrote:What we need is to get a handle on who are the explorers that do appear in history and work that out. Since most of them would come from Rome's claim, we'll let him work on the who. I'm certain if you cooperate with him and others, in time we will work it all out happily among ourselves. Collaboration is the key to any successful RP group.


Got it. I'll talk with Roma Invictus regarding the explorers and the age of discovery.

Did you read the post above with the app puppet explaining what's desired in an intro thread? Don't forget to read that, too.
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Postby Oceanor » Sun May 24, 2020 7:05 am

Should we make an Earth X history thread. In it we could discuss our ideas for the history of Earth X, and decide what is canon or not. Just an idea.

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Postby Chrinthania » Sun May 24, 2020 7:08 am

Oceanor wrote:Should we make an Earth X history thread. In it we could discuss our ideas for the history of Earth X, and decide what is canon or not. Just an idea.

Good idea. We'll get one started shortly. Hang on for the link.
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My Lords, Ladies, Gentlemen, Non-Binary folks, and all other members of Earth X, we announce the creation of the Earth X Discussion Thread.

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The Applications Thread will, from now on, be reserved only for applications, thread announcements, and expansion requests. All other discussion belongs in the Discussion thread. There is where you can talk about history, economics, trade, plan role plays, etc... to your heart's delight.

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