you really doing this
I mean if I kill 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 of your troops when they try to invade in some fishing boats it doesn't really make much of a difference to me
Advertisement
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:43 am
by Slavakino » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:55 am
by Nogodia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:57 am
Vand Onlisianiny wrote:Our punishments for this are up to life imprisonment or death by suffocating on cow farts.
Vaukiai wrote:I am sure that if I say everything the opposite, you don't warn me.
This forum is a jewish dictatorship.
by Slavakino » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:00 am
by Nogodia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:04 am
Vaukiai wrote:I am sure that if I say everything the opposite, you don't warn me.
This forum is a jewish dictatorship.
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:15 am
by Italy and Libya » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:16 am
Presidente della Federazione Italiana e Libia
رئيس اتحاد إيطاليا وليبيا
Dear George Fenwick, Lord President of the Munkcestrian Republic
I wish to express my concern at your treatment of those protesting to protect our planet.
Climate change is a real and very serious threat, with over 98% of scientists agreeing upon it's existence.
While I agree that the education of children is vital, I see no point in educating an entire generation of children if we are not willing to ensure that we hand the planet to them as it was handed to us, in a habitable and safe condition.
We are all aware that our summers are getting hotter and winters colder, this is a real and serious threat that could render parts of our planet uninhabitable in the near future, and the government of the Federation of Italy and Libya hold it in high priority to prevent such disasters. It therefore seems distasteful to us for people of such significance as yourself to quiet clearly deny the validity of science.
I personally hope that you change your direction on the most important issue of the next 100 years, and you shall be remembered as being on the right side of history for generations to come.
I would also like to extend an offer to those who are at risk of being arrested in Munkchester, of safe passage to and refuge in the Federation of Italy and Libya.
Sincerely and most disappointed,
Luigi Di Maio,
President of the Federation of Italy and Libya
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:47 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Munkcestrian Republic wrote:OOC: No, it's an unbelievably stupid move that makes no sense.
OOC: No, it's actually a very reasonable move. Nations that impose such laws and deny climate change are a threat to the world, a major threat, even. Implementing such laws as banning climate activism, that's the stupid move here, if you ask me.
Nogodia wrote:Munkcestrian Republic wrote:OOC: No, it's an unbelievably stupid move that makes no sense.
OOC: We threatened your tiny government for committing gross human rights violations. You have time to surrender before occupation. With Tornado, the Rander declaration is an IC statement we have that grants us a legal military casus belli regarding state-backed slavery.
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:16 am
by Common Territories » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:31 am
OOC:I didn't wish to post here, but seeing some of these figures made me think that posting something for newer people who are actually here for the first time (and not puppets) was a good idea.
"Recruitment" and "mass assault" are not excuses why this is viable; the latter is a strategy that China proves was dead in the 80s when it lost more men than it gained land against Vietnam in their brief conflict. You don't even share a land border with Munk, which you need if you hope to overwhelm with troops. Munk's point was that you are drafting so many people that it will affect your ability to wage war, have an economy, and have manpower to man what's left of your economy in the first place. For those who aren't entirely aware, the rule of thumb for military populations is that your nation needs two things: A certain level of both military and civilian population to achieve goals, and to never, ever, cross the 5% margin unless you're in a dire situation - like a world war for example. Most nations should go for 2-3 percent at most because this is under draft requirements and still allows for hefty manpower and good production limits - 4 being the absolute limit to peacetime population. 4% and 5% are the beginnings of the draft your nation needs to fill positions, 5% being the point where it will begin negatively affecting your nation with no benefits seen - in case none of you are aware, drafts generally are bad, m'kay? You sir/madam have a military population that's about roughly 14% of your population. The consequences of such a figure are as stated above, greatly detrimental to your nation's health especially since it's 9% more painful. Including everything from an economy that will collapse on itself without the manpower it needs to grow/sustain itself, the ability to produce or maintain the equipment you'll need to wage war, and of course, have an actual economy in the first place to help pay off that mountain of debt you're racking up, your nation will see dark times that get worse over time multiplied by 9%. Munk's comment about killing 1 million men in fishing boats wasn't entirely a joke, because affording anything else with such a military population is near impossible. Remember, you have to equip, train, and maintain these people along with paying them for their service - not doing so has consequences of its own. In general, the only people who use more than 5% are people who generally don't know better or who do it purposely for whatever reason they come up with.
But lets take the Soviet Union for example since "Mass Assault" was named. Its population in 1941 was 170,548,000 people. Over 34,476,700 people served in the Red Army during war years; they became so desperate that they even started drafting women because the overall death count for the Soviets was theorized to be over 40 million with civilian casualties. So you could say in the end they had likely more people serve overall, give or take. That means roughly 20% of their population was drafted into the military during the war at any time. If you're unaware how devastated the Soviet Union was after the war, I encourage you to research it because war time Soviet Union was not a nice place one bit.
And all I'll say about the actual topic of the thread is this: Munk has a point, some of you are proving it (if you're real that is) and showing extreme hypocrisy, and if you attack someone militarily for any reason, they have every right to respond to you with military force as well.
by Nogodia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:39 am
Vaukiai wrote:I am sure that if I say everything the opposite, you don't warn me.
This forum is a jewish dictatorship.
by Daarwyrth » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:45 am
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:46 am
Daarwyrth wrote:OOC: And this is why I was reluctant to join NS RP all this time. If this is going to be a left vs right thing then I'm out, sorry. You can consider Daarwyrth's responses on these RP forums as null and void.
by Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:48 am
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Daarwyrth wrote:OOC: And this is why I was reluctant to join NS RP all this time. If this is going to be a left vs right thing then I'm out, sorry. You can consider Daarwyrth's responses on these RP forums as null and void.
OOC: Understandable I didn't intend for this to be a left-right conflict (and i do have a Titoist nation supporting me so??) or even a war but..
by Yegla Islands » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:54 am
by Nogodia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:55 am
Vaukiai wrote:I am sure that if I say everything the opposite, you don't warn me.
This forum is a jewish dictatorship.
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:59 am
by Valentine Z » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:00 am
♪ If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down ! ♪
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
(✿◠‿◠) ☆ \(^_^)/ ☆
♡ Issues Thread ♡ Photography Stuff ♡ Project: Save F7. ♡ Stats Analysis ♡
♡ The Sixty! ♡ Valentian Stories! ♡ Gwen's Adventures! ♡
• Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
• World Map is a cat playing with Australia.
by -Astoria » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:05 am
Jul 21, 2020
✉ ABC News: Forests doing well, but climate change putting pressure on it | #musicparade: listeners choose their favourites | Refugee sews 1000 masks for his new hometown | NCP calls for aid package for companies | New evidence of large temples in Onsteyl | Weather: Footscray ☁ 14°C | Altas ☁ 16° | Esterpine ☁ 15° | Naltgybal ☂⛆ 13° | Ceirtryn ☀ 17° | Bynscel ☁ 21° | Lyteel ☁ 13°
by Awhaiti Kaiatu » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:29 am
by Yuyencia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:34 am
by Satuga » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:39 am
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:OOC: are people able to respond without threatening war
by New Cabo Azul » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:40 am
Daarwyrth wrote:OOC: And this is why I was reluctant to join NS RP all this time. If this is going to be a left vs right thing then I'm out, sorry. You can consider Daarwyrth's responses on these RP forums as null and void.
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:43 am
Common Territories wrote:OOC:I didn't wish to post here, but seeing some of these figures made me think that posting something for newer people who are actually here for the first time (and not puppets) was a good idea.
"Recruitment" and "mass assault" are not excuses why this is viable; the latter is a strategy that China proves was dead in the 80s when it lost more men than it gained land against Vietnam in their brief conflict. You don't even share a land border with Munk, which you need if you hope to overwhelm with troops. Munk's point was that you are drafting so many people that it will affect your ability to wage war, have an economy, and have manpower to man what's left of your economy in the first place. For those who aren't entirely aware, the rule of thumb for military populations is that your nation needs two things: A certain level of both military and civilian population to achieve goals, and to never, ever, cross the 5% margin unless you're in a dire situation - like a world war for example. Most nations should go for 2-3 percent at most because this is under draft requirements and still allows for hefty manpower and good production limits - 4 being the absolute limit to peacetime population. 4% and 5% are the beginnings of the draft your nation needs to fill positions, 5% being the point where it will begin negatively affecting your nation with no benefits seen - in case none of you are aware, drafts generally are bad, m'kay? You sir/madam have a military population that's about roughly 14% of your population. The consequences of such a figure are as stated above, greatly detrimental to your nation's health especially since it's 9% more painful. Including everything from an economy that will collapse on itself without the manpower it needs to grow/sustain itself, the ability to produce or maintain the equipment you'll need to wage war, and of course, have an actual economy in the first place to help pay off that mountain of debt you're racking up, your nation will see dark times that get worse over time multiplied by 9%. Munk's comment about killing 1 million men in fishing boats wasn't entirely a joke, because affording anything else with such a military population is near impossible. Remember, you have to equip, train, and maintain these people along with paying them for their service - not doing so has consequences of its own. In general, the only people who use more than 5% are people who generally don't know better or who do it purposely for whatever reason they come up with.
But lets take the Soviet Union for example since "Mass Assault" was named. Its population in 1941 was 170,548,000 people. Over 34,476,700 people served in the Red Army during war years; they became so desperate that they even started drafting women because the overall death count for the Soviets was theorized to be over 40 million with civilian casualties. So you could say in the end they had likely more people serve overall, give or take. That means roughly 20% of their population was drafted into the military during the war at any time. If you're unaware how devastated the Soviet Union was after the war, I encourage you to research it because war time Soviet Union was not a nice place one bit.
And all I'll say about the actual topic of the thread is this: Munk has a point, some of you are proving it (if you're real that is) and showing extreme hypocrisy, and if you attack someone militarily for any reason, they have every right to respond to you with military force as well.
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:46 am
Satuga wrote:Munkcestrian Republic wrote:OOC: are people able to respond without threatening war
OOC: M8 your nation just declared that people attempting to better the world should have their lives ruined, how did you not see the fact more democratic nations would have a very large issue with this lol.
Advertisement
Return to International Incidents
Users browsing this forum: Gabeonia, Volkovograd
Advertisement