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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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The united American-Isreali empire
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:23 am

The Green Union wrote:
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:How much would I need to reduce, i was gonna keep a lot of the stuff in the UAIE till I need extra forces. And yes i was planning om adding to navy ranks for shipping and mantaining forces in the area .

JVP has explaining how much you probably need to cut down, but this is still going to leave you with a smallish (though bigger than some entire Markion militaries) force. UAIE absolutely cannot win this war on its own, and there is no scenario where your forces will arrive and immediately smash through the NLFN lines. There are much larger local forces that have been trying to do just that for months.

So I would again suggest specializing UAIE's forces. Find a niche where you can focus all your efforts, that your allies are not already filling effectively. Use your 35 000 troops as efficiently as possible by sending only stuff that can be easily shipped/airlifted. There's plenty of stuff you can do beyond bashing your head against the communist forces.


ill make a new one (ill use this one elsewhere) the aid will remain the same. well most forces are ground infantry? would training do for the cdf (mostly, i will deploy a legion or two anyway. also shipping in arms could be useful, and i do have sf units that are small (4 man teams ect)?

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Hungramy
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Postby Hungramy » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:28 am

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:
Hungramy wrote:
Weapons are for the CDP and the foodstuff is for civilian use, thought it would be a little much to list every tiny detail. And does 12 Destroyers sound good?


6 would be preferable but I can compromise at 9 if you really want to. Ideally, you shouldn't have started posting until I specifically stated that you were allowed but feel free to start posting when that fleet size has been cut down.

My bad, misunderstanding on my part, and 6 is fine.

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The JVP
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Postby The JVP » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:35 pm

The united American-Isreali empire wrote:
The JVP wrote:That's the thing. OP has capped us none Markion players at 35k.

So you need to get down to 35K, minus Maval support elements, and none combat support elements.

Bring over that amount of forces, will be very taxing to be with.

At this point, you are pretty much trying to send an invasion force


so basically less ground vehicles and and air vehicles? so no engineers? i figured they may be needed idk the land ect, so i was planning on being able to use some.

Engineers would somewhat fall under support elements. Unless your plan is to blow up bridges. But you can hire local contractors.

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The united American-Isreali empire
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:45 pm

The JVP wrote:
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:
so basically less ground vehicles and and air vehicles? so no engineers? i figured they may be needed idk the land ect, so i was planning on being able to use some.

Engineers would somewhat fall under support elements. Unless your plan is to blow up bridges. But you can hire local contractors.


Will do. I will do a new tf save for the aid with 2/3rd training and supporting allied forces with air support / navy aid. I'll make sure supplies can flow enough.

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The JVP
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Postby The JVP » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:34 am

I have no words for you Roma.

I give you a very well written out counter to to strike, and just wave it off and start one strike 2.0

At what point did you even know what nation was countering your attacks? I IC don't even know which nation is attacking.

Are you even going to attempt to RP by the rules, or are just just going to gif wank the whole time. Cause if you are, I'll be ignoring everything you do.

You are bringing this RP down with your terrible behavior.

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Barnopea and Nordmark
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Postby Barnopea and Nordmark » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:18 am

Nation Name: Dual Kingdoms of Barnopea and The Nordmark
Alignment: NLFN/ 3rd party
Purpose & Intention: Support of Aels allies concerns about chemical weapon use on civs
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:
Ground units
once foothold is secured more ground units will be deployed
7th Marine Brigade 4,000 men
4 Commando Brigade 4,000
1st marine armour support group 2,000 men plus 150 tanks

Naval units
1 City of Leeds Class nuclear-powered fleet carrier 70,000 tonnes 70 aircraft (HMBS Lord Edward)
2 Trident class nuclear-powered fleet carrier 60,000 tonnes 50 aircraft each (HBMS Ares & HMBS Indefatigable)
1 Crown of Nadensburg class Light helicopter/fleet carrier 25,000 tonnes 20 aircraft plus Embarked Special forces (HBMS Edward I)
4 Stalwart Class LHDs 40,000 tonnes 2,000 marines plus supporting equipment 20 helicopters (HBMS Stalwart, Samson, Centaur and Titan)
1 Able class LHA 45,000 tonnes 2,000 marines 30 helicopters (HBMS Capable)
4 Black Prince Multi-Role Cruisers (HBMS Edward the Uniter, HBMS Millenbrooke, HBMS Vinmund and HBMS Tormax)
35 destroyers and frigates of multiple class
15 leader class Corvettes
6 nuclear fast attack submarines
1 V-243 type FAC/Corvette tender
6 wolverine class FAC's

Fleet support units
3 Multi-role replenishment ship
3 fast Combat support ships
4 fleet replenishment tanker
1 Hope class hospital ship
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The Green Union
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Postby The Green Union » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:41 am

I just want to remind everyone that Sevevill is at war with the NLFN. This is explained in the OP post and first page of the RP.
A federation of three independent states and their Arctic territory, currently torn apart by competing interests.
Calendôr is in the GU heartland, located along the Green River. Francophone, it is the most urban nation. Dominated by boreal forests.
Urlistan covers the west coast and mouth of the Green River. English speaking, it is a rocky country based with industry and culture based around the sea. Currently under the control of the Arcadian Empire.
Arasland is a large northern landmass dominated by rocky forests and, above the treeline, tundra. Speaking several dialects of Emerstarian and Arcadian German, and culturally dominated by small communes organized in tribes.

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Americae Roma
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Postby Americae Roma » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:02 pm

OOC: can someone tell me what damage I've caused in the Frivka District Nuclear Power plant, also, JVP, sorry didn't read your post before launching strike 2.0, I was busy for a while, I've written a new IC post confirming battle damage of varying levels in Iowa Class battleships and Arleigh Burke class destroyer and calling for a withdrawal of my forces.
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The Green Union
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Postby The Green Union » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:11 pm

Americae Roma wrote:OOC: can someone tell me what damage I've caused in the Frivka District Nuclear Power plant, also, JVP, sorry didn't read your post before launching strike 2.0, I was busy for a while, I've written a new IC post confirming battle damage of varying levels in Iowa Class battleships and Arleigh Burke class destroyer and calling for a withdrawal of my forces.

This is good progress.

Remember that Sevevill has asked for answers on why they were bombed. If you simply never respond to that, nobody will know if a response is forthcoming. If your government simply wants to stay silent, I would suggest saying IC that Americae Roma never responded. That way people who might be waiting for a reply will know for sure.

As for the reactor, CSD (playing FASC) will have that information. But they will not be back on until tomorrow.
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A federation of three independent states and their Arctic territory, currently torn apart by competing interests.
Calendôr is in the GU heartland, located along the Green River. Francophone, it is the most urban nation. Dominated by boreal forests.
Urlistan covers the west coast and mouth of the Green River. English speaking, it is a rocky country based with industry and culture based around the sea. Currently under the control of the Arcadian Empire.
Arasland is a large northern landmass dominated by rocky forests and, above the treeline, tundra. Speaking several dialects of Emerstarian and Arcadian German, and culturally dominated by small communes organized in tribes.

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Americae Roma
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Postby Americae Roma » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:24 pm

Green Union, I've posted an explanation in the IC thread and offered Sevevil compensation in the form of money and military hardware.
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The JVP
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Postby The JVP » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:13 am

Have you read the thread?

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Americae Roma
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Postby Americae Roma » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:16 am

yes, you've knocked out one of my Iowa class battleship and several Arleigh Burke Class destroyers, which why I'm withdrawing my remaining ships and aircraft outside the region to be repaired, rearmed and resupplied. If you read my latest post, I've declared my intentions to provide monetary and military hardware to Sevevil. JVP, which side are you affliated with.
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The JVP
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Postby The JVP » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:26 am

See. You would know that if you read the thread.

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Americae Roma
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Postby Americae Roma » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:31 am

Okay, my schedule is relatively tight right now, so I would have very little time spend writing posts, if I've missed anything previously just remind me and I'll update my posts accordingly

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The Kingdom of Rhamos
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Postby The Kingdom of Rhamos » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:37 am

My dude you cannot teleport carriers out theater like that. It's essentially (read it -is-) God modding. You are also abusing the rules of thread or at least trying to. Regardless if you are gonna play like that I will follow your ships and sink them plain and simple.
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Arcadian States and Commonwealths
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:44 am

Americae Roma, if you don't have time to properly RP then you should not be in this thread. In fact, I've had it, for your visible abuse of the rules, willful ignorance of the entire thread, complete disrespect towards other players and utter crap or unengaging RP you can just stop posting altogether. IC your forces will be routed from Markion and the CDP will disavow you as their ally. You're officially ejected from the cousins' war.
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Americae Roma
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Postby Americae Roma » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:26 am

Our post is approximately two hours apart from each other, what I need to know right now is exactly how much does 2 hours in real time does it translate into the in game time, also, Rhamos it seems like you've attacked Alpha, which means Bravo is effectively untouched since you did not mention attacking Bravo, okay, this means I still have an undamaged carrier strike group, however, I have an issue, since I've already written a post at Feb 28 yesterday which states that Carrier Group Alpha is leaving the theatre entirely for repairs, so it's very well that Carrier Group Alpha has left the theatre or is very close to doing so. Rhamos, how about editing your post so instead of attacking Alpha you attack Bravo, since it's Bravo that launched the newest strike and thus is probably the closest of the two to your fleet and finally another issue I have with you( Rhamos) is that your post claimed that you have tracked my tomahawk and EMP missiles while in air, again, our post are two hours apart, I'd admit, teleporting carrier groups is unrealistic, but missiles are fast, and hit their targets minutes after launch, also, Rhamos you sent 12 fighters to attack my carrier group, yet a single Nimitz Class carrier has 90 aircraft, of which 40-50 are fighter aircraft, if you want to inflict the level of damage you desire Rhamos, maybe edit the post and bump up the number of aircraft deployed, and please read this article explaining why carriers are very difficult to sink(https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... rier-99487).
So Rhamos I recommend the following:
1. Attack Bravo not Alpha( since Bravo is the one that launched the latest attack and I've already declared alpha to be leaving theatre since yesterday), realize that one of my carrier group is undamaged, since again, read attached article( attacking carriers is damn difficult and attacking two at once would be a massive drain of resources, again depends on what you want, if you want to inflict lots of damage, then focus all of your forces on just one, if you just want to launch an attack to send a message like say dink a destroyer or cruiser, yeah, go after Alpha as well.)
2. Edit the number of aircraft, I suggest >60
3. Accept that most of my ordnance would have already impacted their targets due to the time between our post( approximately 2 hours real time)
4. Don't use corvettes( Corvettes are like the smallest ship considered to be a proper warship and are thus unsuited for head to head combat against battleships, cruisers and destroyers, especially against a carrier group with multilayered defense systems.)
5. If possible, give me the number of ships destroyed so I can inventory my remaining forces.

And Arcadia, okay, I understand it, my schedule is tight, but I am adjusting it accordingly to fit this RP, and have begun editing my post to reflect the thread, and as of this writing, I have managed to clear up several loose ends in my schedule that will allow for more participation in this RP, so I won't be lagging behind the thread, in fact right now, I've been trying to clear up my old post to remove any inconsistencies regarding the thread, just give me some time to do so, I expect to clear them up in a few hours.

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Arcadian States and Commonwealths
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:32 am

I don't care. Kindly stop wasting your own time.
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Americae Roma
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Postby Americae Roma » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:37 am

Again, Arcadia, just because I didn't have time a while ago, does not mean I don't have time now, I do have time right now and will be willing to fix my post as needed, I do have plenty of free time starting tomorrow.

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The JVP
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Postby The JVP » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:07 am

Seems OP has spoken.

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Arcadian States and Commonwealths
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:23 am

Barnopea and Nordmark wrote:Nation Name: Dual Kingdoms of Barnopea and The Nordmark
Alignment: NLFN/ 3rd party
Purpose & Intention: Support of Aels allies concerns about chemical weapon use on civs
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:
Ground units
once foothold is secured more ground units will be deployed
7th Marine Brigade 4,000 men
4 Commando Brigade 4,000
1st marine armour support group 2,000 men plus 150 tanks

Naval units
1 City of Leeds Class nuclear-powered fleet carrier 70,000 tonnes 70 aircraft (HMBS Lord Edward)
2 Trident class nuclear-powered fleet carrier 60,000 tonnes 50 aircraft each (HBMS Ares & HMBS Indefatigable)
1 Crown of Nadensburg class Light helicopter/fleet carrier 25,000 tonnes 20 aircraft plus Embarked Special forces (HBMS Edward I)
4 Stalwart Class LHDs 40,000 tonnes 2,000 marines plus supporting equipment 20 helicopters (HBMS Stalwart, Samson, Centaur and Titan)
1 Able class LHA 45,000 tonnes 2,000 marines 30 helicopters (HBMS Capable)
4 Black Prince Multi-Role Cruisers (HBMS Edward the Uniter, HBMS Millenbrooke, HBMS Vinmund and HBMS Tormax)
35 destroyers and frigates of multiple class
15 leader class Corvettes
6 nuclear fast attack submarines
1 V-243 type FAC/Corvette tender
6 wolverine class FAC's

Fleet support units
3 Multi-role replenishment ship
3 fast Combat support ships
4 fleet replenishment tanker
1 Hope class hospital ship



Turn down those destroyer/corvette numbers and we're good. Say 12 corvettes? 6 destroyers?
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Barnopea and Nordmark
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Postby Barnopea and Nordmark » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:45 am

how about
6 destroyer
6 Frigate
6 corvettes

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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:05 pm

Barnopea and Nordmark wrote:how about
6 destroyer
6 Frigate
6 corvettes


nani

sure!
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The united American-Isreali empire
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:23 pm

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:
Barnopea and Nordmark wrote:how about
6 destroyer
6 Frigate
6 corvettes


nani

sure!


I will remake a task force, suitable for 80 percent support. Ill still have some forces to fight when the time is right. And I'll put more aid in as well.

For testing (aka the cdf can 'try out' different styles of weapons and the uaie will pick up the cost)
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The united American-Isreali empire
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:47 pm

Thoughts on my new task force? I'm gonna add aircraft and infantry eqmpent still. Numbers is safe?
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1328784
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