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Arcadian States and Commonwealths
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:10 pm

Greater Catarapania wrote:Nation Name: Greater Catarapania.

Alignment: Whichever side has the moral high ground.

Purpose & Intention: Determine whether the Communists' grievance is legitimate, and whether or not they respect ethnic minorities and religious freedom. Regardless of ultimate decision, will take what actions possible to prevent civilian casualties to whatever extent logistical constraints allow. Potential attacks on Treko naval facilities as "reprisal" for chemical attacks on the Communist civilians.

What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle: In rough order of when they could arrive/come into play, I'd be willing to commit up to the following if the situation warrants.

    - Humanitarian Aid Corps: probably around two or three thousand men could be in the theatre delivering medical supplies within the week, with about four times that in the next three weeks. Likely focus on Yetrograd.
    - Special Espionage Company C: would sneak into the country disguised as part of the humanitarian operations, then assume secondary identities and investigate the Communist regime's humanitarian record.
    - 6 squadrons of 6 R-18 "Eagle Eye" reconnaissance spaceplanes.
    - 6 squadrons of 6 B-74 "Lancer" strategic bombing spaceplanes (optional pending approval - see appendix).
    - The First and Second Battle Fleets, plus detached ships to operate independently and/or serve as escorts for allied ships, with a total of the following:
      2 Argus-class Theatre Supremacy Cruiser
      4 Typhon-class Medium Aircraft Carriers (carry a total of 192 fixed wing aircraft, half manned half not, and 36 helicopters)
      2 Leviathan-class Arsenal Ships
      2 Manticore-class Battleships (optional pending approval - see appendix).
      6 light guided missile cruisers (2 detached)
      12 guided missile destroyers (4 detached)
      6 monitors (2 detached) (optional pending approval - see appendix)
      18 frigates (6 detached)
      36 picket ships (12 detached)
      24 attack submarines (16 detached)
    (note that everything in the Catarapanian fleet is nuclear powered, though the attack submarines have sizable batteries and can reduce reactor activity to zero within a day)
    - An additional 192 stealth fighters (half manned, half unmanned), 96 stealth attack planes (half manned, half unmanned - SEAD optimized), and 48 CAS attack planes (all manned) if allied airfields are made available.
    - Up to three armored divisions could be delivered to friendly coastlines at up to two brigades per in-game month, beginning two in-game months after announcing which side I join.
    - Third Cyberwarfare Division, size unknown, but rest assured that attacks on enemy networks will be proportional to the size of my economy (77 trillion Kilograms Sterling GDP)

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Some of these platforms may still be too advanced for early PMT, and I'm going to get permission here before deploying them. Lack of permission for a given asset will result in it being struck from my IC ORBAT should I be accepted.

The B-74 is a spaceplane using an airbreathing CCGCN rocket engine. The reason it's here is its weaponry: it technically uses kinetic strikes, but they're limited to MOAB-level yields. Think "Mach 3 telephone pole," not "hypervelocity dinosaur killer." To my understanding, the closed cycle gas core engine is entirely physically plausible with 2020 tech (though perhaps not yet cost effective), and the kinetic munitions used are based on hypothetical six meter "hypervelocity rods" from a US government study (I can dig around for it if you're interested). Elimination of this would result in a lack of heavy bunker-busting munitions, and I'm not sure how or if I would replace them.

The Manticore-class battleship is here because I'm not sure how generous you folks are going to be with hypervelocity gun technology. Since I designed my ships for a "far" post modern tech level, the "canonical" Manticore has a primary battery with range and impact comparable to an intermediate range ballistic missile with conventional warhead. Obviously this would need to be toned down for me to take part in this roleplay.

The US Navy is hoping for a railgun with 370 km range and a 20-ish kilo projectile in the near future. If you had more power (or used a different kind of gun) to achieve greater velocity and launched a larger projectile with a greater areal density (assuming drag is the primary limiting factor), a 100-ish kg projectile would be capable of making it ~630 km, and a 500-ish kg projectile would be able to pass the 1000 km mark.

Accordingly, I would want to arm the Manticore with four 500 kilo SCRAM cannons (rate of fire: 1 round per minute), 12-18 100 kilo railguns (rate of fire: 3 rounds per minute), and 20+ 20 kilo railguns (rate of fire: 10 rounds per minute). If you don't want 1000 km range SCRAM cannons in your setting, I'm willing to replace the battleship with a modified Leviathan-class capable of carrying anti-ship ballistic missiles with ~1500 km range.

The monitor would just be a destroyer sized ship built around a single SCRAM cannon. If the "uber scale" hypervelocity guns are ruled out, I'd just nix these from the ORBAT.

Thank you for your consideration!


This is a massive force. I would ask you to cool it with that fleet size if you could, cheers. Another thing I'd like to add is the heavy use of rail guns. At this point in history, within Markion, rail guns are very much a recent thing. One nation, that now has a massive dent in its military budget, has only just rolled out a few ships with railguns, with the main guns being rail guns, the rest being conventional weaponry. You are free to have rail guns but limit yourself to perhaps one or two of these ships, you have to remember that this kind of weaponry is a big thing in Markion and it shouldn't be treated as just another everyday thing.

I will also state again that nano weapons, anti-matter factories and all the materials plus population of a fully colonised solar system are out of the question. ICBM transports (Why would you even), kinetic strikes and whatnot are okay for the time being, try to use your early PMT tech sparingly so not to make other players uncomfortable. Obviously I'm not telling you redo your nation just for one RP but just dial it all back to a point in time when you didn't have that, sound good?

As long as you've adhered to the requests here, and you've taken into account what Denethier has said, then feel free to begin posting.



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Postby The Kingdom of Rhamos » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:16 pm

Treko wrote:So these F-111s, I know it states that they're loaded just short of their full bomb load at 30 SDBs (Small Diameter Bombs) but I don't know if you could stuff all that into the internal weapons bay. I'm just trying to figure out how this F-111 is carrying upwards to almost 30 SDBs.

I merely want clarification on the matter.


No problem, when I say built upon the same principles as an F-111 I don't mean that it is one just that its similar in concept. This being a high speed tactical bomber/strike aircraft. It's more of a visualization aid in that when I describe the aircraft I want you to picture a stealthy F-111 type aircraft is all. For example the much larger B-1 holds in just 1 of its internal bays eight 6 packs of SDB's and that's not counting the other 2 bays as well. A smaller F-35 can carry up to 24 although some are external as well. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask I don't mind at all honestly.
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Postby Treko » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:39 pm

The Kingdom of Rhamos wrote:
Treko wrote:So these F-111s, I know it states that they're loaded just short of their full bomb load at 30 SDBs (Small Diameter Bombs) but I don't know if you could stuff all that into the internal weapons bay. I'm just trying to figure out how this F-111 is carrying upwards to almost 30 SDBs.

I merely want clarification on the matter.


No problem, when I say built upon the same principles as an F-111 I don't mean that it is one just that its similar in concept. This being a high speed tactical bomber/strike aircraft. It's more of a visualization aid in that when I describe the aircraft I want you to picture a stealthy F-111 type aircraft is all. For example the much larger B-1 holds in just 1 of its internal bays eight 6 packs of SDB's and that's not counting the other 2 bays as well. A smaller F-35 can carry up to 24 although some are external as well. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask I don't mind at all honestly.

So is it all internal or some internal and some external?

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Postby The Kingdom of Rhamos » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:20 pm

Treko wrote:
The Kingdom of Rhamos wrote:
No problem, when I say built upon the same principles as an F-111 I don't mean that it is one just that its similar in concept. This being a high speed tactical bomber/strike aircraft. It's more of a visualization aid in that when I describe the aircraft I want you to picture a stealthy F-111 type aircraft is all. For example the much larger B-1 holds in just 1 of its internal bays eight 6 packs of SDB's and that's not counting the other 2 bays as well. A smaller F-35 can carry up to 24 although some are external as well. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask I don't mind at all honestly.

So is it all internal or some internal and some external?


All internal, it's meant to be a quick scud hunt essentially. They are just targeting whatever launched the chemical attack, and if the opportunity presents itself the C&C facilities that conducted the attack. However, I've left you a lot of leeway in how effective the strike even is as it was based off of quick Sat recon and some Signit. So they could find all the launchers they or even none just know that if it's the latter they will go after targets of opportunity then instead. These of course would only be targets of military value though.

Edit: also assuming they dont encounter to much resistance either in which case they'd just go home
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Postby Treko » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:25 pm

The Kingdom of Rhamos wrote:
Treko wrote:So is it all internal or some internal and some external?


All internal, it's meant to be a quick scud hunt essentially. They are just targeting whatever launched the chemical attack, and if the opportunity presents itself the C&C facilities that conducted the attack. However, I've left you a lot of leeway in how effective the strike even is as it was based off of quick Sat recon and some Signit. So they could find all the launchers they or even none just know that if it's the latter they will go after targets of opportunity then instead. These of course would only be targets of military value though.

Alrighty, we got two things clarified. I know it's internal now and you're expecting a response now. I didn't know if you wanted to make another post about entering the airspace. So I'll start fixing and editing my current post.

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Postby The Kingdom of Rhamos » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:48 pm

Oh no, my apologies I didnt mean to make it seem like i was expecting a response, just sort of laying out all the ways it could play out. The planes still have to fly over Anakovyan, link up with the Denether strike package and be cleared through friendly skies so they dont do a green on blue. Theres also the distance they have to cover. I just wasnt sure if you thought I was about to GM you or not.
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Postby Treko » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:14 pm

The Kingdom of Rhamos wrote:Oh no, my apologies I didnt mean to make it seem like i was expecting a response, just sort of laying out all the ways it could play out. The planes still have to fly over Anakovyan, link up with the Denether strike package and be cleared through friendly skies so they dont do a green on blue. Theres also the distance they have to cover. I just wasnt sure if you thought I was about to GM you or not.

Oh, okay. All good.

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Postby Raltirian Denethier » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:08 am

And just to be clear, I am going to join in on this initial strike on Treko, so you might want to hold off on a response just until you get an additional idea of what's coming. I don't want you to get tripped up thinking you're being hit by four aircraft, only for me to step in after you've responded to say "Lawl, nah bro, I'm here too."
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Postby Greater Catarapania » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:26 am

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:This is a massive force. I would ask you to cool it with that fleet size if you could, cheers.


My fleet size is calculated carefully. I scale my overall force (ie, the pool of resources I can draw on, not what I commit to a particular RP) based on the size of the US armed forces and a comparison between my own economy and the US economy (assuming the Kilogram Sterling is similar in strength to the USD). Based on that sort of comparison, I can afford something along the lines of 3.5 times what the US can afford, which I calculate to be around eight battlefleets of the composition I've described.

Using similar logic, most of the other nations involved should be capable of bringing something even more impressive to the table, since the Nation States economic calculations seem to be a little broken, and since there already seem to be millions of infantry deployed.

Most of the size comes from the frigates and picket ships, which are small vessels. The picket ship isn't really capable of much beyond self defense, and is more of a force multiplier for the Theatre Supremacy Cruisers than a surface combatant. The frigates are dedicated ASW platforms, lack anti-surface firepower, can't be used for force projection on land, and can't defend any of the other ships from air or missile attack (though they are capable of self-defense).

The sub force is a bit OP, though. I'll cut it in half.

I will also modify my ORBAT so that one of the Battlefleets will be held in reserve for at least three in-game months after my declaration of which side I will join.

Another thing I'd like to add is the heavy use of rail guns. At this point in history, within Markion, rail guns are very much a recent thing. One nation, that now has a massive dent in its military budget, has only just rolled out a few ships with railguns, with the main guns being rail guns, the rest being conventional weaponry. You are free to have rail guns but limit yourself to perhaps one or two of these ships, you have to remember that this kind of weaponry is a big thing in Markion and it shouldn't be treated as just another everyday thing.


If that's the case, then I think I'd rather just say that the "Manticore" is a variant of the "Leviathan" that's capable of carrying high-precision medium range ballistic missiles (conventional or kinetic warhead, obviously). Say, 20 of them. It's a lot shallower of a magazine, but it'll still pack a hell of a punch in fleet actions.

The monitors are just going to be deleted from the ORBAT.

I will also state again that nano weapons, anti-matter factories and all the materials plus population of a fully colonised solar system are out of the question.


I understand this, and have no intention to use something like that in the RP.

ICBM transports (Why would you even),


The idea would be speed of mobilization, combined with the difficulty of shooting down an incoming ICBM vs that of shooting down a plane. If I were using my full tech level, integral logistical elements would be sufficient to keep a brigade or two running behind enemy lines indefinitely.

Without nanotech, however, that won't be possible, so this sort of deployment method is out of the question now. Hence its absence from my ORBAT.

kinetic strikes and whatnot are okay for the time being, try to use your early PMT tech sparingly so not to make other players uncomfortable. Obviously I'm not telling you redo your nation just for one RP but just dial it all back to a point in time when you didn't have that, sound good?


Quite!

As long as you adhere to the requests here, and you've taken into account what Denethier has said, then feel free to begin posting.


Very well. That being said, I will leave this here, just to be sure that the modifications of my fleet will be sufficient.

Revised Application

Nation Name: Greater Catarapania.

Alignment: Whichever side has the moral high ground.

Purpose & Intention: Determine whether the Communists' grievance is legitimate, and whether or not they respect ethnic minorities and religious freedom. Regardless of ultimate decision, will take what actions possible to prevent civilian casualties to whatever extent logistical constraints allow. Potential attacks on Treko naval facilities as "reprisal" for chemical attacks on the Communist civilians.

What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle: In rough order of when they could arrive/come into play, I'd be willing to commit up to the following if the situation warrants.

    - Humanitarian Aid Corps: probably around two or three thousand men could be in the theatre delivering medical supplies within the week, with about four times that in the next three weeks. Likely focus on Yetrograd.
    - Special Espionage Company C: would sneak into the country disguised as part of the humanitarian operations, then assume secondary identities and investigate the Communist regime's humanitarian record.
    - 6 squadrons of 6 R-18 "Eagle Eye" reconnaissance spaceplanes.
    - 6 squadrons of 6 B-74 "Lancer" strategic bombing spaceplanes
    - The First Battle Fleet, plus detached ships to operate independently and/or serve as escorts for allied ships, with a total of the following:
      1 Argus-class Theatre Supremacy Cruiser
      2 Typhon-class Medium Aircraft Carriers (carry a total of 96 fixed wing aircraft, half manned half not, and 18 helicopters)
      1 Leviathan-class Arsenal Ship
      1 Manticore-class Arsenal Ship
      3 light guided missile cruisers (1 detached)
      6 guided missile destroyers (2 detached)
      9 frigates (3 detached)
      18 picket ships (6 detached)
      6 attack submarines (4 detached)
    (note that everything in the Catarapanian fleet is nuclear powered, though the attack submarines have sizable batteries and can reduce reactor activity to zero within a day)
    - The Second Battle Fleet held in reserve, which has the same composition as the First - detatched elements would be deployed two in-game months after my declaration of war/alliance, and the main force would be deployed two months after that.
    - Third Cyberwarfare Division, size unknown, but rest assured that attacks on enemy networks will be proportional to the size of my economy (77 trillion Kilograms Sterling GDP).
    - An additional 192 stealth fighters (half manned, half unmanned), 96 stealth attack planes (half manned, half unmanned - SEAD optimized), and 48 CAS attack planes (all manned) if allied airfields are made available.
    - Up to three armored divisions could be delivered to friendly coastlines at up to two brigades per in-game month, beginning two in-game months after announcing which side I join.
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:09 am

Greater Catarapania wrote:
Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:This is a massive force. I would ask you to cool it with that fleet size if you could, cheers.


My fleet size is calculated carefully. I scale my overall force (ie, the pool of resources I can draw on, not what I commit to a particular RP) based on the size of the US armed forces and a comparison between my own economy and the US economy (assuming the Kilogram Sterling is similar in strength to the USD). Based on that sort of comparison, I can afford something along the lines of 3.5 times what the US can afford, which I calculate to be around eight battlefleets of the composition I've described.

Using similar logic, most of the other nations involved should be capable of bringing something even more impressive to the table, since the Nation States economic calculations seem to be a little broken, and since there already seem to be millions of infantry deployed.

Most of the size comes from the frigates and picket ships, which are small vessels. The picket ship isn't really capable of much beyond self defense, and is more of a force multiplier for the Theatre Supremacy Cruisers than a surface combatant. The frigates are dedicated ASW platforms, lack anti-surface firepower, can't be used for force projection on land, and can't defend any of the other ships from air or missile attack (though they are capable of self-defense).

The sub force is a bit OP, though. I'll cut it in half.

I will also modify my ORBAT so that one of the Battlefleets will be held in reserve for at least three in-game months after my declaration of which side I will join.

Another thing I'd like to add is the heavy use of rail guns. At this point in history, within Markion, rail guns are very much a recent thing. One nation, that now has a massive dent in its military budget, has only just rolled out a few ships with railguns, with the main guns being rail guns, the rest being conventional weaponry. You are free to have rail guns but limit yourself to perhaps one or two of these ships, you have to remember that this kind of weaponry is a big thing in Markion and it shouldn't be treated as just another everyday thing.


If that's the case, then I think I'd rather just say that the "Manticore" is a variant of the "Leviathan" that's capable of carrying high-precision medium range ballistic missiles (conventional or kinetic warhead, obviously). Say, 20 of them. It's a lot shallower of a magazine, but it'll still pack a hell of a punch in fleet actions.

The monitors are just going to be deleted from the ORBAT.

I will also state again that nano weapons, anti-matter factories and all the materials plus population of a fully colonised solar system are out of the question.


I understand this, and have no intention to use something like that in the RP.

ICBM transports (Why would you even),


The idea would be speed of mobilization, combined with the difficulty of shooting down an incoming ICBM vs that of shooting down a plane. If I were using my full tech level, integral logistical elements would be sufficient to keep a brigade or two running behind enemy lines indefinitely.

Without nanotech, however, that won't be possible, so this sort of deployment method is out of the question now. Hence its absence from my ORBAT.

kinetic strikes and whatnot are okay for the time being, try to use your early PMT tech sparingly so not to make other players uncomfortable. Obviously I'm not telling you redo your nation just for one RP but just dial it all back to a point in time when you didn't have that, sound good?


Quite!

As long as you adhere to the requests here, and you've taken into account what Denethier has said, then feel free to begin posting.


Very well. That being said, I will leave this here, just to be sure that the modifications of my fleet will be sufficient.

Revised Application

Nation Name: Greater Catarapania.

Alignment: Whichever side has the moral high ground.

Purpose & Intention: Determine whether the Communists' grievance is legitimate, and whether or not they respect ethnic minorities and religious freedom. Regardless of ultimate decision, will take what actions possible to prevent civilian casualties to whatever extent logistical constraints allow. Potential attacks on Treko naval facilities as "reprisal" for chemical attacks on the Communist civilians.

What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle: In rough order of when they could arrive/come into play, I'd be willing to commit up to the following if the situation warrants.

    - Humanitarian Aid Corps: probably around two or three thousand men could be in the theatre delivering medical supplies within the week, with about four times that in the next three weeks. Likely focus on Yetrograd.
    - Special Espionage Company C: would sneak into the country disguised as part of the humanitarian operations, then assume secondary identities and investigate the Communist regime's humanitarian record.
    - 6 squadrons of 6 R-18 "Eagle Eye" reconnaissance spaceplanes.
    - 6 squadrons of 6 B-74 "Lancer" strategic bombing spaceplanes
    - The First Battle Fleet, plus detached ships to operate independently and/or serve as escorts for allied ships, with a total of the following:
      1 Argus-class Theatre Supremacy Cruiser
      2 Typhon-class Medium Aircraft Carriers (carry a total of 96 fixed wing aircraft, half manned half not, and 18 helicopters)
      1 Leviathan-class Arsenal Ship
      1 Manticore-class Arsenal Ship
      3 light guided missile cruisers (1 detached)
      6 guided missile destroyers (2 detached)
      9 frigates (3 detached)
      18 picket ships (6 detached)
      6 attack submarines (4 detached)
    (note that everything in the Catarapanian fleet is nuclear powered, though the attack submarines have sizable batteries and can reduce reactor activity to zero within a day)
    - The Second Battle Fleet held in reserve, which has the same composition as the First - detatched elements would be deployed two in-game months after my declaration of war/alliance, and the main force would be deployed two months after that.
    - Third Cyberwarfare Division, size unknown, but rest assured that attacks on enemy networks will be proportional to the size of my economy (77 trillion Kilograms Sterling GDP).
    - An additional 192 stealth fighters (half manned, half unmanned), 96 stealth attack planes (half manned, half unmanned - SEAD optimized), and 48 CAS attack planes (all manned) if allied airfields are made available.
    - Up to three armored divisions could be delivered to friendly coastlines at up to two brigades per in-game month, beginning two in-game months after announcing which side I join.


A reply to the millions of soldiers part for clarification. Treko & Sjovenia have essentially committed their entire armed forces to this war, meaning that hundreds of thousands of men are either moving to the front, on the frontlines or doing something otherwise, perhaps pushing papers and driving logistics trucks. The NLFN, a union of four highly populated nations have also been driven to a similar situation. I knew at one point or another, Sevevill, our region's land empire, would join. Meaning that hundreds of thousands more into the fight. Yes, it's not entirely realistic, but at the end of the day its a game and I don't personally mind war being waged like this as long as basic consequences and requirements of war are met such as keeping the men's morale high or keeping logistics in order and so forth. I'm mostly limiting out region players because of the fact that they are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of miles way in another region. Not only that also so we don't have too many troops on the ground and so that out region players might consider other play styles, not that you are not allowed to just fight clean and simple.

Anyway though. Looking much better, you're welcome to begin posting, just remember to communicate with who you may or may not be siding with so you don't land in hot water when you don't have permission to enter their land/waters. Speaking of you say you're going to attack Treko, so I'm going to put you down as an NLFN supporter for the time being?


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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:10 am

Great Humania wrote:who's conducting operations on the western roadway?


You'll have to be a little more specific, take one of my maps point out the area you mean? I'll be able to help out a little more.


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Postby Greater Catarapania » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:17 pm

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:I'm mostly limiting out region players because of the fact that they are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of miles way in another region.


That's reasonable. Should I decrease the number of armored divisions I can bring to bear, or increase the time it takes to bring them into play, in your opinion?

Speaking of you say you're going to attack Treko, so I'm going to put you down as an NLFN supporter for the time being?


Ehh... Having second thoughts about that. Despite their actions, Treko mostly seems concerned with the national sovereignty of the nations Anavokya has invaded. Real mixed messages. Plus, in the main Markion thread you directed me to earlier, I distinctly recall there being something about rumors of ethnic cleansing of Anapols or something to that effect.

Have me "neutral" for now. I need information before I pick a side. Solid information.
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:28 pm

Greater Catarapania wrote:
Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:I'm mostly limiting out region players because of the fact that they are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of miles way in another region.


That's reasonable. Should I decrease the number of armored divisions I can bring to bear, or increase the time it takes to bring them into play, in your opinion?

Speaking of you say you're going to attack Treko, so I'm going to put you down as an NLFN supporter for the time being?


Ehh... Having second thoughts about that. Despite their actions, Treko mostly seems concerned with the national sovereignty of the nations Anavokya has invaded. Real mixed messages. Plus, in the main Markion thread you directed me to earlier, I distinctly recall there being something about rumors of ethnic cleansing of Anapols or something to that effect.

Have me "neutral" for now. I need information before I pick a side. Solid information.


A decrease in numbers would be preferable. Just remember those rumours are just that, rumours. Like you said, you will need more IC knowledge before you act as most don't know whats going on there IC.

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Postby Great Humania » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:31 pm

The Battle of Levensk
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:51 am

Alright, everyone, I've had a small break and I'm back to bring you some ill news. Discussions on our regional discord (which I invite you to join on our regional front page) between Markion nations have led to some complaints at the size of military forces from ALL non-Markion nations. I have asked them what they wanted and they have given their answer. Going forward all nation joining this RP will, at maximum, be allowed to introduce 35,000 to the war. Fleets sizes are a little different but I've also had complaints about Americae Roma's naval and air forces. I think I mentioned him and lowering those forces in a previous post but it was a small comment and in reply to someone else, I thought everyone would be reading all posts but there you go, going forward I advise you to read all posts to make sure you miss nothing.

So to sum up:

>You are now limited to a maximum capacity of 35,000 troops. (Please don't try to play with that rule, ask me if you're wondering about it.)

>Americae Roma must bring his naval and air force down to a realistic level. No America sized air force being brought to the fight. One large carrier group is already a massive force.

We are still discussing this new rule in the discord. So feel free to add your thoughts.

Great Humania wrote:The Battle of Levensk


Currently the roadways in Stravel and being occupied by the NLFN in the south and the CDP in the north.



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Postby Albatan » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:11 pm

Nation Name: The Kingdom of Albatan
Alignment: Neutral
Purpose & Intention: To understand what is going on in the NLFN and report on any human rights violations they may be committing (or lack thereof).
Order of Battle: Not a damn thing, you think we want to let good people die in this cluster fuck?
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:50 pm

Albatan wrote:Nation Name: The Kingdom of Albatan
Alignment: Neutral
Purpose & Intention: To understand what is going on in the NLFN and report on any human rights violations they may be committing (or lack thereof).
Order of Battle: Not a damn thing, you think we want to let good people die in this cluster fuck?


Feel free to start posting, friend!



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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:27 pm

Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fright the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

5 uaie standard army divisions (125,000 total) (50th,51st, 52nd, 53rd, 54th) (with assault gun battalions and armored forces to support and attack)
2 united legion legions (10,000 ish)
10 ghost teams aka- Group for Specialized Tactics (GST - where the term “Ghost” derives from) (4 man teams each)
new united usa foreign legion x4 (100,000) 60th, 61st,62nd, 63rd

a navy task force will be added and air units to be mostly multi-role jets, bombers and attack helicopters (save for obvious transport ect) to be sent as well.

aid is to be offered to help the civilians and cdp forces fighting the commies as well. in every way possible. ill edit this as needed too.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... id=1254672
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1286122
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1301858
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1304360
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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:00 pm

The united American-Isreali empire wrote:Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fright the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

5 uaie standard army divisions (125,000 total) (50th,51st, 52nd, 53rd, 54th) (with assault gun battalions and armored forces to support and attack)
2 united legion legions (10,000 ish)
10 ghost teams aka- Group for Specialized Tactics (GST - where the term “Ghost” derives from) (4 man teams each)
new united usa foreign legion x4 (100,000) 60th, 61st,62nd, 63rd

a navy task force will be added and air units to be mostly multi-role jets, bombers and attack helicopters (save for obvious transport ect) to be sent as well.

aid is to be offered to help the civilians and cdp forces fighting the commies as well. in every way possible. ill edit this as needed too.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... id=1254672
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1286122
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1301858
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1304360


Please don't take offence to this but its clear you've not read the rules. Please read the rules, specifically Rule 3:

1. I am your lord and saviour, OP (Durradon), I control everything in this thread so come to me if you have problems.

2. The War is limited to the CDP and NLFN controlled areas, as seen on the map.

3. This war already has massive forces fighting each other. Non-markion nations are limited to a force as large as 35,000 troops. Use them wisely, clever use of forces will be rewarded.

4. Respect the geography of the land. Stravel is mostly rolling steppes but Anaslovakia and Anapoltania are forested and hilly lands with most settlements on the coast. Anavokya has a great number of lakes and rivers that make it hard to traverse the land in any way other than one with that one way being the roads. You may find yourself having to fight more for the roads rather than the cities.

5. Writing and images should not go outside Nationstates' RP/conduct guidelines, look them up if you haven't already.

6. Please send me a TG if you are NOT a nation from Markion and want to join in, sign up on the OC thread too.

7. Please TG me for Map requests. If you need detail on a certain place or piece of land, I can throw it your way.

8. Griefers will be shot on sight.

9. No godmodding, you will be shot on sight.

10. Have fun or you will be shot on sight.

11. No teleporting armies, troops and whatnot. This RP is more on the realistic side, you will need to RP your troops moving to the warzone, setting up a base of operations (maybe you'll share one with your new allies), and then setting up a logistics network to support that army, whether it be from local allies or from your home country.

Other than that, any PMT and FT will have to be removed from your arsenal. Mainly those space ships.
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:05 pm

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fright the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

5 uaie standard army divisions (125,000 total) (50th,51st, 52nd, 53rd, 54th) (with assault gun battalions and armored forces to support and attack)
2 united legion legions (10,000 ish)
10 ghost teams aka- Group for Specialized Tactics (GST - where the term “Ghost” derives from) (4 man teams each)
new united usa foreign legion x4 (100,000) 60th, 61st,62nd, 63rd

a navy task force will be added and air units to be mostly multi-role jets, bombers and attack helicopters (save for obvious transport ect) to be sent as well.

aid is to be offered to help the civilians and cdp forces fighting the commies as well. in every way possible. ill edit this as needed too.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... id=1254672
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1286122
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1301858
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1304360


Please don't take offence to this but its clear you've not read the rules. Please read the rules, specifically Rule 3:

1. I am your lord and saviour, OP (Durradon), I control everything in this thread so come to me if you have problems.

2. The War is limited to the CDP and NLFN controlled areas, as seen on the map.

3. This war already has massive forces fighting each other. Non-markion nations are limited to a force as large as 35,000 troops. Use them wisely, clever use of forces will be rewarded.

4. Respect the geography of the land. Stravel is mostly rolling steppes but Anaslovakia and Anapoltania are forested and hilly lands with most settlements on the coast. Anavokya has a great number of lakes and rivers that make it hard to traverse the land in any way other than one with that one way being the roads. You may find yourself having to fight more for the roads rather than the cities.

5. Writing and images should not go outside Nationstates' RP/conduct guidelines, look them up if you haven't already.

6. Please send me a TG if you are NOT a nation from Markion and want to join in, sign up on the OC thread too.

7. Please TG me for Map requests. If you need detail on a certain place or piece of land, I can throw it your way.

8. Griefers will be shot on sight.

9. No godmodding, you will be shot on sight.

10. Have fun or you will be shot on sight.

11. No teleporting armies, troops and whatnot. This RP is more on the realistic side, you will need to RP your troops moving to the warzone, setting up a base of operations (maybe you'll share one with your new allies), and then setting up a logistics network to support that army, whether it be from local allies or from your home country.

Other than that, any PMT and FT will have to be removed from your arsenal. Mainly those space ships.


ill fix that, im sorry.

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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:12 pm

Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fight the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

new united Legion x6 (5,000 each) for a grand total of 30,000
death corp x 5,000 (pmc that is known to give no mercy)

the uaie plans on giving aid to civilians and the CDP forces in all ways possable.

uaie navy and air units to join as well.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1254669
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252072

i also wont bring any pmt or ft tech. just mt.

as far as map fdeployment i will do that once things get approved (like i said wip).
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:49 pm

The united American-Isreali empire wrote:Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fight the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

new united Legion x6 (5,000 each) for a grand total of 30,000
death corp x 5,000 (pmc that is known to give no mercy)

the uaie plans on giving aid to civilians and the CDP forces in all ways possable.

uaie navy and air units to join as well.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1254669
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252072

i also wont bring any pmt or ft tech. just mt.

as far as map fdeployment i will do that once things get approved (like i said wip).


Feel free to start posting with the acknowledgement that arming your men with weapons from WW2 will put you at a disadvantage. I advise you to communicate with your allies. Have fun.
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:53 pm

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fight the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

new united Legion x6 (5,000 each) for a grand total of 30,000
death corp x 5,000 (pmc that is known to give no mercy)

the uaie plans on giving aid to civilians and the CDP forces in all ways possable.

uaie navy and air units to join as well.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1254669
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252072

i also wont bring any pmt or ft tech. just mt.

as far as map fdeployment i will do that once things get approved (like i said wip).


Feel free to start posting with the acknowledgement that arming your men with weapons from WW2 will put you at a disadvantage. I advise you to communicate with your allies. Have fun.


i will ensure they have deacent enough weapons, and will use my aid wisely as to what i'm issuing as well.

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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:58 pm

Arcadian States and Commonwealths wrote:
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:Nation Name: united american Israeli empire
Alignment: CDP
Purpose & Intention: help fight the reds and destroy the NLFN
What you are bringing to the War/Order of Battle:

new united Legion x6 (5,000 each) for a grand total of 30,000
death corp x 5,000 (pmc that is known to give no mercy)

the uaie plans on giving aid to civilians and the CDP forces in all ways possable.

uaie navy and air units to join as well.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1254669
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1252072

i also wont bring any pmt or ft tech. just mt.

as far as map fdeployment i will do that once things get approved (like i said wip).


Feel free to start posting with the acknowledgement that arming your men with weapons from WW2 will put you at a disadvantage. I advise you to communicate with your allies. Have fun.[/q


here's my military lists (its older, but it does fit) https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1255203 minus the future tech and post modern tech.
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