Spokane Civil War

[Semparia]

Both of which were mostly just some madlads going "this will totally help me win the war with (insert other Semparian region here)" Also battleships in of themselves are kinda outdated, "The Military Balance states the U.S. Navy listed no battleships in the reserve in 2014. ... When the last Iowa-class ship was finally stricken from the Naval Vessel Registry, no battleships remained in service or in reserve with any navy worldwide. A number are preserved as museum ships, either afloat or in drydock."

[Rhyssua]

Yeah that'd be fine. It's impossible to keep completely silent with a submarine but it'd be pretty difficult to find them if you aren't on the lookout for them.

I have ~100 troops committed (excluding spies, and that's only another 20 or so), 15 aircraft, and 5 subs. Until the surface ships (5) and fresh aircraft (20) arrive, that is.

Erk, I thought you had more personally. But the reason so many troops have been dispatched is that the Viceroy wants to make a show of force and end the conflict as quickly as possible. (the nuclear disaster is more of an afterthought for her, the military decided to dedicate the 30 divisions to the nuclear disaster.)

Rhyssua's biggest problem, military-wise, is how decentralized everything is. After suffering through a military dictatorship/communism, decentralization of the army was written into the new constitution. That, combined with how bad their economy was, means the People's Confederation isn't in the greatest shape in terms of numerical superiority. And, until recently, I wasn't actually contributing anything militarily (didn't count the transport planes in my numbers).

[British St Helena]

Both of which were mostly just some madlads going "this will totally help me win the war with (insert other Semparian region here)" Also battleships in of themselves are kinda outdated, "The Military Balance states the U.S. Navy listed no battleships in the reserve in 2014. ... When the last Iowa-class ship was finally stricken from the Naval Vessel Registry, no battleships remained in service or in reserve with any navy worldwide. A number are preserved as museum ships, either afloat or in drydock."

Actually, it is a myth that Battleships are outdated. A modern battleship would make an excellent fleet escort with the right technologies. For example, The Vanguard class (the battleships I am using) are designed in a very defensive way, they use laser weaponry to intercept incoming projectiles (this includes missiles, shells, even low flying aircraft.) and are equipped with traditional 16 inch guns to annihilate any surface contacts or partake in land bombardment. But even without a laser defence system a battleship (including the Vanguard class) still has its thick armour which can easily withstand missile strikes and low calibre shells (however, it is possible in mission killing a battleship by destroying radars ect in the unarmoured superstructure and making it virtually blind.) To summarise the Vanguard class, they do the equivalent job as Iowa's did in WW2 and are used primarily as anti-air escorts and land bombardment ships. But are more than capable in fighting other capital ships.

Destroyers in this case are just as useful, they are used heavily anti-submarine warfare and for anti-air engagements with their missile armaments (and to a far lesser degree in this scenario their limited laser defences and launching missile strikes beyond the range of the battleships guns).

[British St Helena]

Erk, I thought you had more personally. But the reason so many troops have been dispatched is that the Viceroy wants to make a show of force and end the conflict as quickly as possible. (the nuclear disaster is more of an afterthought for her, the military decided to dedicate the 30 divisions to the nuclear disaster.)

Rhyssua's biggest problem, military-wise, is how decentralized everything is. After suffering through a military dictatorship/communism, decentralization of the army was written into the new constitution. That, combined with how bad their economy was, means the People's Confederation isn't in the greatest shape in terms of numerical superiority. And, until recently, I wasn't actually contributing anything militarily (didn't count the transport planes in my numbers).

Ahhh...that makes sense, the Raj is very much the opposite. The country is incredibly centralised (especially the Armed Forces and the Government) and with such a large population and impressive economic potential they are able to field a large and incredibly advanced military and as the Viceroy is pretty much a dictator by this point she has put a lot of emphasis on military spending. (It explains the NS stats well enough anyways! And links up to the real life location of the Raj quite nicely)

[Semparia]

Both of which were mostly just some madlads going "this will totally help me win the war with (insert other Semparian region here)" Also battleships in of themselves are kinda outdated, "The Military Balance states the U.S. Navy listed no battleships in the reserve in 2014. ... When the last Iowa-class ship was finally stricken from the Naval Vessel Registry, no battleships remained in service or in reserve with any navy worldwide. A number are preserved as museum ships, either afloat or in drydock."

Actually, it is a myth that Battleships are outdated. A modern battleship would make an excellent fleet escort with the right technologies. For example, The Vanguard class (the battleships I am using) are designed in a very defensive way, they use laser weaponry to intercept incoming projectiles (this includes missiles, shells, even low flying aircraft.) and are equipped with traditional 16 inch guns to annihilate any surface contacts or partake in land bombardment. But even without a laser defence system a battleship (including the Vanguard class) still has its thick armour which can easily withstand missile strikes and low calibre shells (however, it is possible in mission killing a battleship by destroying radars ect in the unarmoured superstructure and making it virtually blind.) To summarise the Vanguard class, they do the equivalent job as Iowa's did in WW2 and are used primarily as anti-air escorts and land bombardment ships. But are more than capable in fighting other capital ships.

Destroyers in this case are just as useful, they are used heavily anti-submarine warfare and for anti-air engagements with their missile armaments (and to a far lesser degree in this scenario their limited laser defences and launching missile strikes beyond the range of the battleships guns).

Fair enough but that implies sticking state of the art tech on the ships, which mine don’t have.

[British St Helena]

Actually, it is a myth that Battleships are outdated. A modern battleship would make an excellent fleet escort with the right technologies. For example, The Vanguard class (the battleships I am using) are designed in a very defensive way, they use laser weaponry to intercept incoming projectiles (this includes missiles, shells, even low flying aircraft.) and are equipped with traditional 16 inch guns to annihilate any surface contacts or partake in land bombardment. But even without a laser defence system a battleship (including the Vanguard class) still has its thick armour which can easily withstand missile strikes and low calibre shells (however, it is possible in mission killing a battleship by destroying radars ect in the unarmoured superstructure and making it virtually blind.) To summarise the Vanguard class, they do the equivalent job as Iowa's did in WW2 and are used primarily as anti-air escorts and land bombardment ships. But are more than capable in fighting other capital ships.

Destroyers in this case are just as useful, they are used heavily anti-submarine warfare and for anti-air engagements with their missile armaments (and to a far lesser degree in this scenario their limited laser defences and launching missile strikes beyond the range of the battleships guns).

Fair enough but that implies sticking state of the art tech on the ships, which mine don’t have.

Mhm, this is why engaging at sea is not the greatest idea without a massive numerical advantage depending on how outdated the navy is. But you would still do damage to the escorting ships and the transports in an engagement. The fleet is not invincible after all!

[Madossa]

Just reestablished relations with the Raj and unfroze assets.

[Madossa]

This is the first time someone's supported the Marxists

[Rosnokutsk]

nonsense, we are but humble peacekeepers

[Madossa]

Sure you are, buddy.

[Imperium of The Huron]

Could some one make a list of all the players and plots? (Or give me the link if there's already one.) thanks

[Semparia]

So is this the part where everyone starts dumping troops into Spokane?

[Madossa]

I guess, especially with the Raj.

[British St Helena]

I guess, especially with the Raj.

Oy, it's called a 'tactical overcompensation'

[Semparia]

question is do i bother pumping in troops? Because if the Raj takes pot shots at me for being in the general area or going "hey maybe dont commit warcrimes," I notice a severe lack of AA capabilities.

[Madossa]

I don't think the Raj would risk doing that, especially if they don't want a dog pile on their hands.

[British St Helena]

Don't worry, my army is only there for dealing with the separatist threat and the nuclear fallout.
To correct you on anti-air defences. If you look at my factbook you should see that their are multiple purpose built anti-air and missile systems. that includes:

Leopard 2 Marksman anti-aircraft systems
RAPIER Surface-to-air missile systems
Multiple versions of Starstreak

If you want I can give you numbers with how many of these systems the army is equipped with if you want. There is also the matter about navy support and a component of the Raj air force who are already in the area.
Also, the army will not be able to come all at once, only a 1/5 is currently embarked on the fleet and the transport aircraft are still ferrying personnel and equipment to the airport that was secured in the north.

To the Raj, this conflict can be likened to what the Gulf war was to America IRL (who sent a huge amount of their army including reserves to the conflict at its peak) the Raj has done virtually the same in this situation. However in this case the Raj is supporting the incumbent government instead of attacking it.

[Semparia]

Time to turn my embassy in Raj into a mini fort because things are going down in the embassy district and i dont want me poor bois getting killed to hecc.

[British St Helena]

Time to turn my embassy in Raj into a mini fort because things are going down in the embassy district and i dont want me poor bois getting killed to hecc.

Don't worry it was just the intelligence minister getting shot...don't question why we have snipers there in the first place though.

[Madossa]

Should I try to blackmail the Raj with the stick?

[British St Helena]

Should I try to blackmail the Raj with the stick?

Do what you want, it's your ball run with it mate!

[Semparia]

i b e l i v e i r i s k w a r v e r y m u c h r i g h t n o w

[British St Helena]

i b e l i v e i r i s k w a r v e r y m u c h r i g h t n o w

Amen to that, seems like your bringing in the big guns! As long as they are not aimed at me it should be fine! xD

[Semparia]

Real quick do you plan on doing anything on your way to what I presume to be the Fallen Angel's territory?

[British St Helena]

Real quick do you plan on doing anything on your way to what I presume to be the Fallen Angel's territory?

Well, I am not really sure what else there is to be doing before the Fallen Angel's territory. Did you want to do something?