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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:00 pm
by New Decius
You know Nova Dietrich Stolte’s story really moved me, it was quite heart wrenching and almost made me feel bad for blowing him and his fellows to smithereens.

Almost.

I think my next post we’ll finally seal up the Sumpfwald and annihilate the 3. Panzerarmee in the field, launch Operation Ludwig (The Spec Ops Raid on Stammburg) and begin to close up this series of affairs.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:01 am
by New United States of Columbia
Whelp I’ve just screwed myself. Working on a post now. I’m sorry for not posting in forever. Distracted and wasn’t sure how to post (especially as I fell behind more and more).
Edit: Should I just resign since I’ve fallen behind so far?
Edit 2: If I can still stick around, can anyone tell me which faction controls Südoff (a coastal city my “Relief Fleet’ was heading towards)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:22 am
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Solisian Union wrote:-Snipped Application-

Accepted.
New Decius wrote:You know Nova Dietrich Stolte’s story really moved me, it was quite heart wrenching and almost made me feel bad for blowing him and his fellows to smithereens.

Almost.

I think my next post we’ll finally seal up the Sumpfwald and annihilate the 3. Panzerarmee in the field, launch Operation Ludwig (The Spec Ops Raid on Stammburg) and begin to close up this series of affairs.

Thanks, that's what I was going for. In a perfect world I would have built up his character a lot more along with his relationship to his men, but I'm glad I could still achieve something of an effect.
New United States of Columbia wrote:Whelp I’ve just screwed myself. Working on a post now. I’m sorry for not posting in forever. Distracted and wasn’t sure how to post (especially as I fell behind more and more).
Edit: Should I just resign since I’ve fallen behind so far?
Edit 2: If I can still stick around, can anyone tell me which faction controls Südoff (a coastal city my “Relief Fleet’ was heading towards)

If you can't commit to the RP, that's fine. I'd be sad to see you go, but I'm not going to force you to do anything.

Also, Südhoof is controlled by the Royalists, as you can tell by the map.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:40 pm
by Luxembourg-Bavaria
New United States of Columbia wrote:Whelp I’ve just screwed myself. Working on a post now. I’m sorry for not posting in forever. Distracted and wasn’t sure how to post (especially as I fell behind more and more).
Edit: Should I just resign since I’ve fallen behind so far?
Edit 2: If I can still stick around, can anyone tell me which faction controls Südoff (a coastal city my “Relief Fleet’ was heading towards)



the same thing happened to me mate. if you havent deployed troops yet you should be fine

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:37 pm
by New United States of Columbia
the same thing happened to me mate. if you havent deployed troops yet you should be fine

No. Not deployed yet thank God.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:59 pm
by Solisian Union
just a few questions before i begin posting a few days from now:

1. Is it still possible to conduct an airlift over into Royalist territory?
2. Is Steiner capable of delivering a counter attack against the commies?
3. What's the best direction to come in with an army?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:11 pm
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON
New Decius wrote:
Luxembourg-Bavaria wrote:


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....you're supposed to let him do it and then cut him to pieces xD


Well really my fleet offshore could cut his aircraft out of the sky before they even got close to dropping paratroops. Said fleet also contains three supercarriers and six fleet carriers so a couple hundred aircraft ready for intercept.


Sorry just saw this now, but isn't such a fleet a bit outrageous? I mean not only the oil required to supply such a large amount of large ships, and the manpower required, but the sheer amount of aircraft on said ships. That is 810-900 planes on the fleet.

Although I will say, a single fleet that huge becomes no longer effective, and more of an easy target. Unless the carriers are operating WW2 aircraft, such sheer numbers are useless. With modern aircraft and weapon systems, your air fleet's biggest threat is itself, and will not be able to even shoot or fly without hitting another plane or crashing. Plus it completely defeats the purpose of stealth and loses the element of suprise.

Not to mention if you are using modern aircraft, the cost it must be to maintain a single fleet. If your aircraft are 5th generation, then you are looking at a 40% greater cost to maintain your fleet, and your air group alone there is very expensive to be fighting in situations they are not required; $76,500,000,000 for your air group.

Sorry I don't mean to offend or anything, just looking to be realistic.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:42 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Solisian Union wrote:just a few questions before i begin posting a few days from now:

1. Is it still possible to conduct an airlift over into Royalist territory?

Yes, the areas under Royalist control are mostly safe air-wise.
2. Is Steiner capable of delivering a counter attack against the commies?

Steiner? To whom are you referring?
3. What's the best direction to come in with an army?

Any angle is a good opportunity. I wouldn't recommend coming in against the BSU, as New Decius is already hard at work against them, unless you want to work alongside him. A front which needs bulwarking is the northern line against the Reich. Alternatively, you could send troops to help out against the French, entering into a sort of three-way war against both the Reich and the French. A final option would be to attack Saatland or the Dutch, both of whom have been largely ignored up until now.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:59 pm
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON
Oh for when I post, one question, to support the The Capilean Reich, where is the best place to land?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:07 pm
by Luxembourg-Bavaria
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Oh for when I post, one question, to support the The Capilean Reich, where is the best place to land?


check the map

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:11 pm
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON
Luxembourg-Bavaria wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Oh for when I post, one question, to support the The Capilean Reich, where is the best place to land?


check the map


I mean I can see the map but the context of it is confusing, as I don't know is this an island, which parts are surrounded by water for landing and whatnot.

And I was asking to avoid enemy fleets, although I have noticed some fleets lack military realism. As I mentioned in the post above concerning New Decius' extreme fleet. It is as if his tactics are from WW2. Not to offend, just trying to be real.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:29 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:I mean I can see the map but the context of it is confusing, as I don't know is this an island, which parts are surrounded by water for landing and whatnot.

And I was asking to avoid enemy fleets, although I have noticed some fleets lack military realism. As I mentioned in the post above concerning New Decius' extreme fleet. It is as if his tactics are from WW2. Not to offend, just trying to be real.

I thought that I had made it clear that Nova Capile is an island, surrounded on all sides by water. As long as you involve your own navy, which I would assume to be quite capable, I don't think you'd have too much trouble, at least with the initial landing of troops. Saxtonburg and Lorgenz are both suitable ports.

Or, if you're up for it, you could even mount a naval invasion of Gravines, the city the Reich is currently attempting to take and which is being defended by Bavaria and the French themselves.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:31 pm
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:I mean I can see the map but the context of it is confusing, as I don't know is this an island, which parts are surrounded by water for landing and whatnot.

And I was asking to avoid enemy fleets, although I have noticed some fleets lack military realism. As I mentioned in the post above concerning New Decius' extreme fleet. It is as if his tactics are from WW2. Not to offend, just trying to be real.

I thought that I had made it clear that Nova Capile is an island, surrounded on all sides by water. As long as you involve your own navy, which I would assume to be quite capable, I don't think you'd have too much trouble, at least with the initial landing of troops. Saxtonburg and Lorgenz are both suitable ports.

Or, if you're up for it, you could even mount a naval invasion of Gravines, the city the Reich is currently attempting to take and which is being defended by Bavaria and the French themselves.


Oh okay cool. Thanks. So far, as you can see, I have sent a very small force, but could send a much larger one in order to attempt to take Gravines.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:49 pm
by Solisian Union
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
Solisian Union wrote:just a few questions before i begin posting a few days from now:

1. Is it still possible to conduct an airlift over into Royalist territory?

Yes, the areas under Royalist control are mostly safe air-wise.
2. Is Steiner capable of delivering a counter attack against the commies?

Steiner? To whom are you referring?
3. What's the best direction to come in with an army?

Any angle is a good opportunity. I wouldn't recommend coming in against the BSU, as New Decius is already hard at work against them, unless you want to work alongside him. A front which needs bulwarking is the northern line against the Reich. Alternatively, you could send troops to help out against the French, entering into a sort of three-way war against both the Reich and the French. A final option would be to attack Saatland or the Dutch, both of whom have been largely ignored up until now.

The steiner bit was a joke :P it's a reference to steiner's attack against the soviets in the defense of berlin; it never happened.

Solisia volunteers to take care of the Reich front and in opening a front against Saatland and the Dutch. We will contribute significant forces to these endeavors later.

I will begin roleplaying as soon as I get back home on Wednesday.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:56 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Solisian Union wrote:The steiner bit was a joke :P it's a reference to steiner's attack against the soviets in the defense of berlin; it never happened.

DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL!

Yeah, I kinda expected that, but just wanted to make sure I wasn't misremembering the name of some general I'd made up.

Solisia volunteers to take care of the Reich front and in opening a front against Saatland and the Dutch. We will contribute significant forces to these endeavors later.

I will begin roleplaying as soon as I get back home on Wednesday.

Sounds good!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:24 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Roster was updated, and the thread was closed, seeing as we have, at least nominally, three players supporting each faction. If someone was considering joining or was about to post an application, TG me and I'll see what I can do.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:09 pm
by Pan-Asiatic States
If I wanted to send a rapporteur to the official Monarchist government, would they allow it?

Additionally, could they be able to rendezvous with the Socialists in secret?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:04 am
by Luxembourg-Bavaria
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:I mean I can see the map but the context of it is confusing, as I don't know is this an island, which parts are surrounded by water for landing and whatnot.

And I was asking to avoid enemy fleets, although I have noticed some fleets lack military realism. As I mentioned in the post above concerning New Decius' extreme fleet. It is as if his tactics are from WW2. Not to offend, just trying to be real.

I thought that I had made it clear that Nova Capile is an island, surrounded on all sides by water. As long as you involve your own navy, which I would assume to be quite capable, I don't think you'd have too much trouble, at least with the initial landing of troops. Saxtonburg and Lorgenz are both suitable ports.

Or, if you're up for it, you could even mount a naval invasion of Gravines, the city the Reich is currently attempting to take and which is being defended by Bavaria and the French themselves.




Don't attack Gravines cause i got two fleets anchored there and two armies already in battle. And i got more on the way

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:26 am
by New Decius
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Luxembourg-Bavaria wrote:
check the map


I mean I can see the map but the context of it is confusing, as I don't know is this an island, which parts are surrounded by water for landing and whatnot.

And I was asking to avoid enemy fleets, although I have noticed some fleets lack military realism. As I mentioned in the post above concerning New Decius' extreme fleet. It is as if his tactics are from WW2. Not to offend, just trying to be real.


My fleet is realistic for the force committment I have. My military is truly a massive machine due to a thiriving and constantly growing arms industry coupled with Prussian military traditions. As to the mention of Battleships these are not the dinosaurs of the past but modern nuclear powered behemoths whose main armaments are automated 9inch-16inch guns (Depending on class of warship) and VLS Pods containing cruise missiles.

Those 96 ships are split in four squadrons of 24 ships each. Thats six battleships and two carriers to a squadron with the remaining sixteen ships a mixture of guided missile cruisers and destroyers. These are four out of the seven squadrons of my Hochseeflotte, the Fleet Command whose main jurisdiction is the North Sea and direct home defense.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:45 am
by Luxembourg-Bavaria
New Decius wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
I mean I can see the map but the context of it is confusing, as I don't know is this an island, which parts are surrounded by water for landing and whatnot.

And I was asking to avoid enemy fleets, although I have noticed some fleets lack military realism. As I mentioned in the post above concerning New Decius' extreme fleet. It is as if his tactics are from WW2. Not to offend, just trying to be real.


My fleet is realistic for the force committment I have. My military is truly a massive machine due to a thiriving and constantly growing arms industry coupled with Prussian military traditions. As to the mention of Battleships these are not the dinosaurs of the past but modern nuclear powered behemoths whose main armaments are automated 9inch-16inch guns (Depending on class of warship) and VLS Pods containing cruise missiles.

Those 96 ships are split in four squadrons of 24 ships each. Thats six battleships and two carriers to a squadron with the remaining sixteen ships a mixture of guided missile cruisers and destroyers. These are four out of the seven squadrons of my Hochseeflotte, the Fleet Command whose main jurisdiction is the North Sea and direct home defense.



same here dawg. also just lob a nuke at his fleet.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:54 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
New Decius wrote:My fleet is realistic for the force committment I have. My military is truly a massive machine due to a thiriving and constantly growing arms industry coupled with Prussian military traditions. As to the mention of Battleships these are not the dinosaurs of the past but modern nuclear powered behemoths whose main armaments are automated 9inch-16inch guns (Depending on class of warship) and VLS Pods containing cruise missiles.

Those 96 ships are split in four squadrons of 24 ships each. Thats six battleships and two carriers to a squadron with the remaining sixteen ships a mixture of guided missile cruisers and destroyers. These are four out of the seven squadrons of my Hochseeflotte, the Fleet Command whose main jurisdiction is the North Sea and direct home defense.

Aren't battleships obsolete?

I'm no naval expert, so perhaps you have a very good reason for using them. But the way I see it, they perform a function (providing huge fire support) which can be done much cheaper and more efficiently by aircraft. As far as I know, even by the time of WWII battleships were basically obsolete, accomplishing more by just sitting at dock (fleet in being) than by actually fighting. This because they were very slow and large, in comparison to the naval all-star of WWII which would go on to become the center-piece of modern fleets, the carrier, which by its very nature has a much larger range. In fact, as far as I know the only function which battleships ever performed reasonably in WWII was coastal bombardment- and even then aircraft are more effective at that. In modern warfare IRL a nuclear battleship has not yet been created (again as far as I know) because it would essentially be putting a bigger bullseye on an already immense target.

One could argue that due to their cruise missile armament, your battleships would have greater range and capabilities than historical examples. This is true, but redundant. Why not put the missiles on a smaller, faster, much less expensive warship? It would save immense amounts of money, and probably be more effective. Why pay for an extremely expensive and large, vulnerable ship, plus have to crew it with thousands of men, when one could instead build a smaller, faster, stealthier submarine or aircraft which has a much smaller crew, and get the same results?

Essentially my question is, what function are the battleships in your navy serving that couldn't be fulfilled at a much lower price-tag and more efficiently by less expensive craft, New Decius?

Admittedly I utilize battleships in my own navy, too, but I acknowledge that they are almost completely useless, and were commissioned by Hans Wilhelm for prestige reasons.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:56 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:If I wanted to send a rapporteur to the official Monarchist government, would they allow it?

Yes.
Additionally, could they be able to rendezvous with the Socialists in secret?

Clandestinely, yes. But the Socialists do not exactly have many agents within the Duchy. It would most likely have to be in a separate mission specifically to Kongsburg.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:59 pm
by Luxembourg-Bavaria
cappy fyi im waiting for your post before i get another one up so i can make it extra long

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:01 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Luxembourg-Bavaria wrote:cappy fyi im waiting for your post before i get another one up so i can make it extra long

Okay, it's coming tomorrow.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:19 pm
by New Decius
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
New Decius wrote:My fleet is realistic for the force committment I have. My military is truly a massive machine due to a thiriving and constantly growing arms industry coupled with Prussian military traditions. As to the mention of Battleships these are not the dinosaurs of the past but modern nuclear powered behemoths whose main armaments are automated 9inch-16inch guns (Depending on class of warship) and VLS Pods containing cruise missiles.

Those 96 ships are split in four squadrons of 24 ships each. Thats six battleships and two carriers to a squadron with the remaining sixteen ships a mixture of guided missile cruisers and destroyers. These are four out of the seven squadrons of my Hochseeflotte, the Fleet Command whose main jurisdiction is the North Sea and direct home defense.

Aren't battleships obsolete?

I'm no naval expert, so perhaps you have a very good reason for using them. But the way I see it, they perform a function (providing huge fire support) which can be done much cheaper and more efficiently by aircraft. As far as I know, even by the time of WWII battleships were basically obsolete, accomplishing more by just sitting at dock (fleet in being) than by actually fighting. This because they were very slow and large, in comparison to the naval all-star of WWII which would go on to become the center-piece of modern fleets, the carrier, which by its very nature has a much larger range. In fact, as far as I know the only function which battleships ever performed reasonably in WWII was coastal bombardment- and even then aircraft are more effective at that. In modern warfare IRL a nuclear battleship has not yet been created (again as far as I know) because it would essentially be putting a bigger bullseye on an already immense target.

One could argue that due to their cruise missile armament, your battleships would have greater range and capabilities than historical examples. This is true, but redundant. Why not put the missiles on a smaller, faster, much less expensive warship? It would save immense amounts of money, and probably be more effective. Why pay for an extremely expensive and large, vulnerable ship, plus have to crew it with thousands of men, when one could instead build a smaller, faster, stealthier submarine or aircraft which has a much smaller crew, and get the same results?

Essentially my question is, what function are the battleships in your navy serving that couldn't be fulfilled at a much lower price-tag and more efficiently by less expensive craft, New Decius?

Admittedly I utilize battleships in my own navy, too, but I acknowledge that they are almost completely useless, and were commissioned by Hans Wilhelm for prestige reasons.


Is this a mere question or a grilling by an appropriations committee?

Largely I use battleships as my heaviest surface combat vessels, with modern CIWS protecting them moderately from the air. I also have them because I can afford them.