Klaus' War {OOC|MT|CLOSED}

[New Decius]

Solisian Expeditionary Forces

The Solisian Liberty Blue Division - División Azul de la libertad - Size: 13,000 troops (active, wartime)

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1st Legion - General Paul Montes - Calor Abrasador - 1921
2nd Legion - General Okada Iki - Ratel - 1921
3rd Legion - General Verónica Montenegro - El Homenaje - 1974

(Attached to Blue Division)

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The First Solisian Army - Field Marshal Berta Casales

The Solisian 2nd Motor Rifle Division - General Marínela Rivera - 13055 men

1st Motor Rifle Division - Yamaguchi Yura, General - 22187

3rd Motor Rifle Division - Felipa Pousa, General - 23019

4th Motor Rifle Division - Handa Etsuko, General - 13541

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Solisian Shock Army - Field Marshal Nancy Holt

21st Armored Division - General Catelina Sanches - 12140

22nd Armored Division - General Per de Robles - 10891

27th Special Assault Brigade - General Nico Cabello - 12336

If I might inform: a Brigade in military terms is typically made up of between 1,000-5,000 troops

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

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so even continued support from the navy couldn't turn the tide because I actually outnumber the Reich forces by myself and the cruise missiles just devastated them

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

so even continued support from the navy couldn't turn the tide

Unless you plan to level the city, no.

because I actually outnumber the Reich forces by myself

While in theory, if all of your forces were engaging all of the Reich's, you would outnumber them, in practice this most likely isn't the case. For one, your troops are presumably strung out along the entire border, as the Reich is pushing in multiple places, and our RP has only focused on one. For another, I believe you specifically mentioned that General Werner's men retired from the battle to rest after the arrival of Krüger, meaning that it is mostly if not only his army group holding the line.

and the cruise missiles just devastated them

I was going to address this in my post, but:

I have never heard of cruise missiles being used in close-quarters combat. I would genuinely like to know if there is a precedent for it, as I am not all that knowledgeable about cruise missile warfare. As far as I know, however, it would be extremely dangerous and unprecedented to utilize cruise missiles in close quarters combat such as this due to the relative inaccuracy of them and the momentous risk of friendly fire.

In any case, cruise missiles are neither impervious nor massively destructive, and unless you plan to carpet-bomb every square inch of the battlefield they will only prolong the battle needlessly. In all honesty, I am quite tired of seeing cruise missiles used as a trump card in this role-play and would appreciate some more originality from everyone.

Bavaria, I know it's frustrating, but please reconsider my proposal.

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

so even continued support from the navy couldn't turn the tide

Unless you plan to level the city, no.

because I actually outnumber the Reich forces by myself

While in theory, if all of your forces were engaging all of the Reich's, you would outnumber them, in practice this most likely isn't the case. For one, your troops are presumably strung out along the entire border, as the Reich is pushing in multiple places, and our RP has only focused on one. For another, I believe you specifically mentioned that General Werner's men retired from the battle to rest after the arrival of Krüger, meaning that it is mostly if not only his army group holding the line.

and the cruise missiles just devastated them

I was going to address this in my post, but:

I have never heard of cruise missiles being used in close-quarters combat. I would genuinely like to know if there is a precedent for it, as I am not all that knowledgeable about cruise missile warfare. As far as I know, however, it would be extremely dangerous and unprecedented to utilize cruise missiles in close quarters combat such as this due to the relative inaccuracy of them and the momentous risk of friendly fire.

In any case, cruise missiles are neither impervious nor massively destructive, and unless you plan to carpet-bomb every square inch of the battlefield they will only prolong the battle needlessly. In all honesty, I am quite tired of seeing cruise missiles used as a trump card in this role-play and would appreciate some more originality from everyone.

Bavaria, I know it's frustrating, but please reconsider my proposal.

ok one yes very frustrating two i used the cruise missiles against the back parts of the Reich lines like the reserves stuff like that to eliminate possible friendly fire. two its not a trump card im just kinda desperate to win here. three only the SpecOps part of Army Group Werner was sent to rest(5,000 men before the battle) and we arent strung out anymore when akordania pushed through us we dropped back and concentrated all our forces outside the city.


honestly i dont like being set up for failure but im not mad at you cappy cause i know you didnt mean it intentionally but that point is moot. I guess I'll probably eventually take the third option and move my forces to Roappe or down with the Dutch. But i think ill try to hold for now.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

ok one yes very frustrating two i used the cruise missiles against the back parts of the Reich lines like the reserves stuff like that to eliminate possible friendly fire.

In that case, I fail to see how the Reich's forces will be completely devastated.

two its not a trump card im just kinda desperate to win here.

I was speaking in general, not specifically to you.

three only the SpecOps part of Army Group Werner was sent to rest(5,000 men before the battle) and we arent strung out anymore when akordania pushed through us we dropped back and concentrated all our forces outside the city.

You would still need to devote troops to holding the line elsewhere unless you want the Reich to steamroll the French across the board and completely surround Gravines.

honestly i dont like being set up for failure

Of course not, no one does. My point is that it has happened, and I would suggest cutting your losses rather than prolong the battle any more. It's already gotten to the point where, essentially, the posts are "u retreat" countered by "no u," as we've practically leveled every advantage short of the nuclear option against each other.
To surmise, although in terms of numbers the battle is about even, in all other respects I believe you have a disadvantage.

Consider that your troops arrived in the FFS with no battleplan, and after a brief meeting with the French high command were thrust almost immediately into battle, with very little time to acclimate, prepare, or form battleplans. In contrast, the Reich had the time to orchestrate a well-planned offensive. There is also the issue of morale, which is largely a non-issue among the elite soldiers of the Reich, and admittedly your Bavarians likely would be able to hold firm in willpower. But their allies, the French, are completely broken, and that is disheartening to the defense. I was going to point out some more disadvantages in my post tomorrow, but a basic rundown would be air power- the Reich has enough pilots to rotate through in shifts, meaning that they will have fresh craft going in against yours- and doctrinal issues- essentially, a strategy of desperate static defense, especially one utilizing makeshift fortifications, is not going to hold forever.

I don't mean to be unfair, but for narrative and realism purposes, I think the best option is that which I suggested in my earlier post.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Hey all, post came a little early today. I'm going camping this afternoon and will not be back online until Sunday evening, so I'm pushing back the ORBAT updates until Monday.

Also, New Decius, I noticed that you never continued the conversation between Blücher and the Communist advisors (unless I missed it). Any reason for this?

[New Decius]

Hey all, post came a little early today. I'm going camping this afternoon and will not be back online until Sunday evening, so I'm pushing back the ORBAT updates until Monday.

Also, New Decius, I noticed that you never continued the conversation between Blücher and the Communist advisors (unless I missed it). Any reason for this?

Sorry about that that actually slipped my mind entirely when I started writing more about Stammburg im sorry about that

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Sorry about that that actually slipped my mind entirely when I started writing more about Stammburg im sorry about that

No problem, just making sure.

[New Decius]

Sorry about that that actually slipped my mind entirely when I started writing more about Stammburg im sorry about that

No problem, just making sure.

Is Scherk an actual party fanatic who will die before being captured or is he the classic politician who will piss himself when somebody points a gun at him?

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

okay guys im going to pull out of Gravines for now(i'll be back) but I won't have a post up until Monday so please don't steamroll the city.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

okay guys im going to pull out of Gravines for now(i'll be back) but I won't have a post up until Monday so please don't steamroll the city.

Understood. I'm fond of a MacArthur-style "I shall return," if that's what you intend.

Is Scherk an actual party fanatic who will die before being captured or is he the classic politician who will piss himself when somebody points a gun at him?

In the interests of RP I'm going to pass on this question. I think it'll be more interesting if your commandos have to guess.

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

okay guys im going to pull out of Gravines for now(i'll be back) but I won't have a post up until Monday so please don't steamroll the city.

Understood. I'm fond of a MacArthur-style "I shall return," if that's what you intend.

Exactly.

Edit: Post is up. What is the possibility of the Dutch sending troops to help in a protracted campaign because im pretty sure we are allies.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

ORBAT was updated. Solisian Union, I was unsure how to input some of the data you gave me, take a look at the spreadsheet and I'm sure you'll understand. Send me a TG with revisions if necessary. Also, Akordania, if you could send me a TG with the names of the commanders of your units, that'd be great.

Exactly.

Edit: Post is up. What is the possibility of the Dutch sending troops to help in a protracted campaign because im pretty sure we are allies.

The Dutch are very independent people but also are very stringent about upholding agreements. As such, as long as it is tenable at the time (as in they are not under significant threat) they will probably contribute troops, though I cannot say how many.

[New Decius]

Posted unfortunately its a short one but I promise my next post will be longer

[Solisian Union]

ORBAT was updated. Solisian Union, I was unsure how to input some of the data you gave me, take a look at the spreadsheet and I'm sure you'll understand. Send me a TG with revisions if necessary. Also, Akordania, if you could send me a TG with the names of the commanders of your units, that'd be great.

Exactly.

Edit: Post is up. What is the possibility of the Dutch sending troops to help in a protracted campaign because im pretty sure we are allies.

The Dutch are very independent people but also are very stringent about upholding agreements. As such, as long as it is tenable at the time (as in they are not under significant threat) they will probably contribute troops, though I cannot say how many.

All right, no problem!

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

imagine getting carried by the faction you came to support cough cough akordania.

should have a post up this weekend depending on when that is i might wait for cappy's post to add on to that

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Have made plans with friends for tomorrow, so I'm going to push my IC post back to Sunday along with the ORBAT updates.

imagine getting carried by the faction you came to support cough cough akordania.

should have a post up this weekend depending on when that is i might wait for cappy's post to add on to that

He did pick a major faction, whereas you picked a minor. No need to get salty.

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

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I wouldn't say salty more pointing out the irony of the situation

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

I wouldn't say salty more pointing out the irony of the situation

How is it ironic that the stronger faction triumphed over the weaker?

[Akordania]

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I wouldn't say salty more pointing out the irony of the situation

I mean...to me the point of being a foreign country in a war such as this would be to act more in a support role. So yes I should be “carried”. Additionally I’ve only just established a relationship with the Capilean Reich, so if anything it’d be odd if I fielded this massive army and risked it all just to break them out of a perilous situation. Offering supplies, and providing a small force of seasoned troops as a gesture of goodwill and simply to put more bodies into the fight seems the most appropriate.

For some reason you’ve been prodding me this whole time which I don’t quite understand lol. But, that’s okay.

[New Decius]

Posted

Sorry its another short one my IRL commitments limit my commitment to NS

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Posted and map updated. ORBAT will not be updated this week.

[New Decius]

I have a funny idea.

So the Free French State is effectively becoming a state-in exile at this moment. But they might be useful to the Royalist cause. I have French troops at my disposal, warranted they serve a Bonaparte as opposed to a mindless people’s committee. Perhaps a temporary alliance between the Free French and the Royalists under condition that it is French troops commanding them? This would allow the Royalists access to French manpower and equipment and also a monarchist influence on the French Socialists resulting in perhaps immigration to France or maybe even a peaceful reintegration into the Grand Duchy.

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

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You're not wrong at this point it's all I can do but that's what I signed up for.

[Luxembourg-Bavaria]

I have a funny idea.

So the Free French State is effectively becoming a state-in exile at this moment. But they might be useful to the Royalist cause. I have French troops at my disposal, warranted they serve a Bonaparte as opposed to a mindless people’s committee. Perhaps a temporary alliance between the Free French and the Royalists under condition that it is French troops commanding them? This would allow the Royalists access to French manpower and equipment and also a monarchist influence on the French Socialists resulting in perhaps immigration to France or maybe even a peaceful reintegration into the Grand Duchy.

I could roll with that but its cappy's call



edit: also post coming up soon its short im really pressed on time right now sorry for that. also is a missile strike targeting the enemy fleet anchored at Gravines feasible at all? if not thats fine just spitballing here.