Green Tides [MT | FINISHED](OOC)

[Zhouran]

It wouldn't necessarily mean deploying the armada, of course, but at least trying to prop up anti-government forces be a logical start, potentially followed by some limited force deployments if such an opportunity presents itself.

Since the opposition towards the Sampornese government lacks resources and foreign support, it would be a step-up for militants if foreign aid was to start flowing towards them. As for limited force deployment, that won't really be possible since that basically welcomes an armed response from the Sampornese government and Pan-Asiatic forces. Providing military support to the opposition against the Sampornese government by financially funding them and smuggling weapons via third-party is the safest gamble.

[Pan-Asiatic States]

I mean, worst case scenario @Raltirian Denethier, we could do it in my country some other time since I recently just formed a foreigner death squad Special Police Force which is conducting a crackdown on radical opposition in Northern China.

[Raltirian Denethier]

It wouldn't necessarily mean deploying the armada, of course, but at least trying to prop up anti-government forces be a logical start, potentially followed by some limited force deployments if such an opportunity presents itself.

Since the opposition towards the Sampornese government lacks resources and foreign support, it would be a step-up for militants if foreign aid was to start flowing towards them. As for limited force deployment, that won't really be possible since that basically welcomes an armed response from the Sampornese government and Pan-Asiatic forces. Providing military support to the opposition against the Sampornese government by financially funding them and smuggling weapons via third-party is the safest gamble.

Yeah, at the moment there's not much opening for that, so I would have to stick to logistical support and some nice, deniable special operations to try and help training efforts.

[Zhouran]

Yeah, at the moment there's not much opening for that, so I would have to stick to logistical support and some nice, deniable special operations to try and help training efforts.

Currently the militants responsible for the attack in Butuan have been weakened and are facing depleting resources and manpower. Foreign support for them would basically see them start to grow in strength, kinda like the CIA-backed Contras of Nicaragua or Angola's Soviet-backed MPLA before independence.

[Samporna]

I mean, if it isn't objectionable to everyone else, I was hoping to intervene against the Jamahiriya.

It wouldn't necessarily mean deploying the armada, of course, but at least trying to prop up anti-government forces be a logical start, potentially followed by some limited force deployments if such an opportunity presents itself. Of course, that's assuming we don't necessarily want things to wrap up soon.

As for my army, if it makes the OP feel better, the force is proportionally no larger than the Israeli Defense Forces, for example. It's simply a matter of scaling up the population and the economy.

Naturally, you're not going to be seeing a million men landing on your shores. That's out of the question.

Does your country happen to be lowkey fascist? Because there is an actual fascist group in Samporna that's waiting for the prime time to do a fascist coup.

[Raltirian Denethier]

Does your country happen to be lowkey fascist? Because there is an actual fascist group in Samporna that's waiting for the prime time to do a fascist coup.

It could be argued based on certain elements of the state, perhaps, but as a general matter, no.

More to the point, our view of fascism is as hostile as our view of socialism--what we group under so-called "Bolshevism"--so we would be just as likely to want to destroy that movement, given the chance.

I'm thinking the current resistance is quite sufficient, at least as a starting point.

[Zhouran]

I mean, if it isn't objectionable to everyone else, I was hoping to intervene against the Jamahiriya.

It wouldn't necessarily mean deploying the armada, of course, but at least trying to prop up anti-government forces be a logical start, potentially followed by some limited force deployments if such an opportunity presents itself. Of course, that's assuming we don't necessarily want things to wrap up soon.

As for my army, if it makes the OP feel better, the force is proportionally no larger than the Israeli Defense Forces, for example. It's simply a matter of scaling up the population and the economy.

Naturally, you're not going to be seeing a million men landing on your shores. That's out of the question.

Does your country happen to be lowkey fascist? Because there is an actual fascist group in Samporna that's waiting for the prime time to do a fascist coup.

There's political-hardline groups in Zhouran that would be sympathetic enough to sell weapons and probably even send instructors and advisers (all of whom would be retired ZPA personnel) to train them. Various Zhouranese moderate and hardline political-groups are known for providing support to foreign nationalist and separatist groups they're sympathetic with but aren't officially backed by the government, examples including the selling of weapons illegally by Zhouranese arms-dealers to the Provisional IRA during The Troubles, or Zhouranese political-moderates financially and politically supporting the Catalonian independence movement.

[Samporna]

Does your country happen to be lowkey fascist? Because there is an actual fascist group in Samporna that's waiting for the prime time to do a fascist coup.

There's political-hardline groups in Zhouran that would be sympathetic enough to sell weapons and probably even send instructors and advisers (all of whom would be retired ZPA personnel) to train them. Various Zhouranese moderate and hardline political-groups are known for providing support to foreign nationalist and separatist groups they're sympathetic with but aren't officially backed by the government, examples including the selling of weapons illegally by Zhouranese arms-dealers to the Provisional IRA during The Troubles, or Zhouranese political-moderates financially and politically supporting the Catalonian independence movement.

The Yuhannist Party doesn't necessarily lack arms, just money, resources, support and manpower. Most of its few members are gun-nuts with enough weapons to arm a small army. However, the Jamahiriya is already very cautious of them, even before the coup; so they have been keeping tabs on them more than the other parties.

[Zhouran]

The Yuhannist Party doesn't necessarily lack arms, just money, resources, support and manpower. Most of its few members are gun-nuts with enough weapons to arm a small army. However, the Jamahiriya is already very cautious of them, even before the coup; so they have been keeping tabs on them more than the other parties.

Since you told me the Yuhannist Party is quite radical, the more extreme-elements of Zhouran's political-hardline would no doubt support the YP. I'm sure the YP would most likely be pulling off terror campaigns across Samporna, kinda like the Provisional IRA or the Basque ETA.

[Greater Indonesia Republic]

Is it actually too late to sign up for the RP?

[Raltirian Denethier]

I mean, worst case scenario @Raltirian Denethier, we could do it in my country some other time since I recently just formed a foreigner death squad Special Police Force which is conducting a crackdown on radical opposition in Northern China.

I'll be sure to keep my eye on that. While it won't happen easily, here, its been a long time since I've had much chance to flex the old muscles at all--you know, columns of tanks rolling down the road and all of that glorious jazz--and I've been looking for a chance to do so.

[Zhouran]

Is it actually too late to sign up for the RP?

For the main fighting, I guess so. OP kinda wants to go along with the peace talks, though the other oppositions will probs want to take a piece of the cake (the jamahiriya government) if they receive foreign support.

The Zhouranese have pulled out, thus being the end for Zhouranese military presence in Samporna. I might keep an eye on the latest development in Samporna, though my job of bombing insurgents in Samporna and providing direct support is done.

Also, OP doesn't want to turn this RP into a global war. The need for direct military intervention in this RP is finished (which is why he kinda wants to finish off the peace talks).

[Samporna]

Is it actually too late to sign up for the RP?

Depends. It either ends soon or gets prolonged depending on how it plays out.

[Greater Indonesia Republic]

Is it actually too late to sign up for the RP?

Depends. It either ends soon or gets prolonged depending on how it plays out.

Well, I think I'll just stick around here to see how it goes out

[Raltirian Denethier]

Is it actually too late to sign up for the RP?

Depends. It either ends soon or gets prolonged depending on how it plays out.

Well, I imagine things get prolonged mostly based on what I choose to do. I'm not sure how I want to react, though. If you guys are more intent to just wrap things up, I dont want to end up crashing the party by restarting major hostilities.

If nobody minds it, then I might go ahead and make some moves, but I don't want to be that guy otherwise.

[Samporna]

Depends. It either ends soon or gets prolonged depending on how it plays out.

Well, I imagine things get prolonged mostly based on what I choose to do. I'm not sure how I want to react, though. If you guys are more intent to just wrap things up, I dont want to end up crashing the party by restarting major hostilities.

If nobody minds it, then I might go ahead and make some moves, but I don't want to be that guy otherwise.

At this moment, I'm watching Zhouran's moves. If he somehow starts another insurgency and prolongs the RP, I'll let you and Greater Indonesia Republic in.

[Zhouran]

I'm watching Zhouran's moves. If he somehow starts another insurgency and prolongs the RP, I'll let you and Greater Indonesia Republic in.

I think this RP should get wrapped up cos of peace talks. If a new insurgency starts in Samporna make a new RP and give it a cool name. Other than that I'm sure the LLF and Sampornese government want peace already.

[Samporna]

I'm watching Zhouran's moves. If he somehow starts another insurgency and prolongs the RP, I'll let you and Greater Indonesia Republic in.

I think this RP should get wrapped up cos of peace talks. If a new insurgency starts in Samporna make a new RP and give it a cool name. Other than that I'm sure the LLF and Sampornese government want peace already.

Indeed.

[The Archipelago Territory]

If I were to join, could I use my own map? It’s just a couple of islands