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Zhouran
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Postby Zhouran » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:00 pm

Samporna wrote:Pan-Asiatic States I'm not fighting the LLF. It is an attempted assassination of the LLF envoys that is happening.

Wait, what type of vehicle is the LLF convoy using?

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Samporna
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Postby Samporna » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:35 am

Zhouran wrote:
Samporna wrote:Pan-Asiatic States I'm not fighting the LLF. It is an attempted assassination of the LLF envoys that is happening.

Wait, what type of vehicle is the LLF convoy using?

Modified civilian vehicles. Basically pickup trucks with a mounted machine gun and homemade armor welded on.
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Postby P a m p a n g a » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:07 am

Might as well join this little game I guess...

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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 am

P a m p a n g a wrote:Might as well join this little game I guess...

Tag. Will post application later.


You're not really allowed to tag anymore.
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Postby P a m p a n g a » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 am

Pan-Asiatic States wrote:
P a m p a n g a wrote:Might as well join this little game I guess...

Tag. Will post application later.


You're not really allowed to tag anymore.

Wait what?..... W a c k
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Postby Khataiy » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:26 am

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Could this please be addressed Samporna said he was waiting for Zhouran and Pacific to address it, I think Zhourhan addressed it partially but I would like to see the negotiations come along.

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Zhouran
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Postby Zhouran » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:07 am

Wait, how many are there of Taiseer's men in Butuan? Based on how the helicopters would of used infrared to snoop around building to building and use high-precision weaponry, the kill count for amount of militants killed by the Zhouranese helicopters would be somewhere around 60 - 80 and that's a conservative estimate assuming each of the militants were overcrowding in each building. From what I'm guessing, Taiseer probably has around a couple thousand militants in Butuan, since having thousands more would of easily been detected by local authorities as Butuan isn't particularly big of a city. Plus it makes sense to have only a couple thousand militants in Butuan so as to spread them across the nearby blocks surrounding the targeted envoys.

As for the MANPAD team, most of them save for a few surviving militants would of been eliminated since the launching of MANPAD missiles would of given their location away to the helicopters.

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Raltirian Denethier
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Postby Raltirian Denethier » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:49 pm

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Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of Raltirian Denethier
Leader: Supreme Counselor David A Ellis
Ideology: Parliamentary Elective Monarchy; Mixed-Market Economy
Initial Goal: Address the threat the conflict poses to shipping through the Straits of Malay, possibly solidifying greater access to regional markets and strengthening Denethier's overall position for conflicts it might face at home through the formation of trade agreements or alliances. Additionally, Denethier would seek to curb the rise of what it sees as just another "Bolshevist" threat
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Postby Cascade Range » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:58 am

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Samporna
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Postby Samporna » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:49 pm

Raltirian Denethier wrote:
Application
Nation Name: Constitutional Monarchy of Raltirian Denethier
Leader: Supreme Counselor David A Ellis
Ideology: Parliamentary Elective Monarchy; Mixed-Market Economy
Initial Goal: Address the threat the conflict poses to shipping through the Straits of Malay, possibly solidifying greater access to regional markets and strengthening Denethier's overall position for conflicts it might face at home through the formation of trade agreements or alliances. Additionally, Denethier would seek to curb the rise of what it sees as just another "Bolshevist" threat
Main Factbook Link: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=ral ... l=factbook
Territory: For reference, the continent of Aels is otherwise known as Atlantis; thus this continent is right in the middle of the Atlantic in the Northern Hemisphere, extending from about as far north as Svalbard to about as far south as Kenya
See this page for a map
Initial ORBAT(fill out only if intervening): Intervention likely, but I will have to consider my options further before committing to anything; deployments will likely focus initially on force assistance efforts to bolster local resistance forces, while later phases may see combat troops arriving in-theater
Military Factbooks: Do note that these Factbooks have been in quite the state of flux for quite some time. I will continue to do my best to avoid any ambiguity while RPing if lacking or outdated information becomes a problem. Military numbers are somewhat old, but are still instructive of total force sizes. The most up-to-date figures are those representing my naval fleet inventory. My air force data is...... embarrassingly out of date.
Main Armed Forces Factbook
Army Factbook
Air Force Factbook
RP Sample: Cyldavian Fascist Revolution; My involvement begins on page 3
Something about communists in Hispangia; To be perfectly honest I had forgotten all about this thread, such as it was
Osatian War for Tambaye (In-hiatus); Do disregard the not-so-subtle Wolverine references in my opening post. I don't generally write like that, that was just an inside joke for a thread among buddies.
And, I suppose, see my signature, for what little that's worth.

Your application seems good(despite the oversized WW1 Germany-sized military), but are you sure you still want to join? It's likely about to end, and your intervention will most definitely prolong this. Also, we're not Bolshevist.
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Pan-Asiatic States
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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:52 pm

prolong the conflict pls :p

I need more reasons to fuel PAS towards a Communist-version Monroe Doctrine
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Greater Indonesia Republic
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Postby Greater Indonesia Republic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:40 am

I'm thinking to join this forum thread but as a peacekeeper after the conflict and fighting ends
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Zhouran
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Postby Zhouran » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:44 am

Pan-Asiatic States wrote:prolong the conflict pls :p

This please. What's happening in Butuan is basically close to becoming a Siege of Marawi, just let those bad guys continue being bad guys and bam, more reasons to stay in Samporna 8)

Greater Indonesia Republic wrote:I'm thinking to join this forum thread but as a peacekeeper after the conflict and fighting ends

I've TG'd the OP about maybe prolonging this one situation happening in a Sampornese city, especially while the peace talks can happen. If OP is cool with it, the situation in Butuan turns into a siege and like what happened in Marawi, foreign support could possibly be allowed (if OP is cool with it).

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Samporna
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Postby Samporna » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:32 am

Peace negotiations will happen unless sabotaged. The assassins have failed, thanks to Zhouranese and PAS support. Once the LLF rats out on the SLP, the insurgency supporters will be executed. The next possible troublemakers then could be either the former Yuhannist Party or the Communist Party, but neither had the resources or support that the SLP and the SNP had, so unless they receive support, it's unlikely they'll be able to strike up any big insurgencies.

The other way to prolong the RP is if the SNP and the SLP convince their foreign allies to begin intervention against the Jamahiriya.

However, I do not see much reason to prolong the RP further; because it will put a dent on the Sampornese economy.
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Postby Greater Indonesia Republic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:02 am

If that the case, I could've send peacekeeper to stabilize the post-war situation if you want...
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:59 am

Thermodolia isn’t exactly western though. I see how it could be mistaken but Thermodolia is a nation that hasn’t been occupied by foreigners
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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:17 am

Samporna wrote:Peace negotiations will happen unless sabotaged. The assassins have failed, thanks to Zhouranese and PAS support. Once the LLF rats out on the SLP, the insurgency supporters will be executed. The next possible troublemakers then could be either the former Yuhannist Party or the Communist Party, but neither had the resources or support that the SLP and the SNP had, so unless they receive support, it's unlikely they'll be able to strike up any big insurgencies.

The other way to prolong the RP is if the SNP and the SLP convince their foreign allies to begin intervention against the Jamahiriya.

However, I do not see much reason to prolong the RP further; because it will put a dent on the Sampornese economy.


fair enough

Let's talk about oil negotiations then, I can help you reconstruct your country for some of that black gold
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:24 am

I have an idea about extending the RP. We could have the leader of the SLP flee to an embassy and request asylum thus creating a diplomatic situation and we could also have a foreign power fund the LLF but just enough to be pirates and not insurgents
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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:25 am

Thermodolia wrote:I have an idea about extending the RP. We could have the leader of the SLP flee to an embassy and request asylum thus creating a diplomatic situation and we could also have a foreign power fund the LLF but just enough to be pirates and not insurgents


I'm down for an embassy siege.
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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:26 am

also pls gib oil
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:32 am

Pan-Asiatic States wrote:
Samporna wrote:Peace negotiations will happen unless sabotaged. The assassins have failed, thanks to Zhouranese and PAS support. Once the LLF rats out on the SLP, the insurgency supporters will be executed. The next possible troublemakers then could be either the former Yuhannist Party or the Communist Party, but neither had the resources or support that the SLP and the SNP had, so unless they receive support, it's unlikely they'll be able to strike up any big insurgencies.

The other way to prolong the RP is if the SNP and the SLP convince their foreign allies to begin intervention against the Jamahiriya.

However, I do not see much reason to prolong the RP further; because it will put a dent on the Sampornese economy.


fair enough

Let's talk about oil negotiations then, I can help you reconstruct your country for some of that black gold

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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:34 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Pan-Asiatic States wrote:
fair enough

Let's talk about oil negotiations then, I can help you reconstruct your country for some of that black gold

If anyone is doing reconstructions it’s gonna be Thermodolia. Just ignore the fact that your entire energy grid, transportation system, and oil are suspiciously owned by the Thermodolian government


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Postby Samporna » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:I have an idea about extending the RP. We could have the leader of the SLP flee to an embassy and request asylum thus creating a diplomatic situation and we could also have a foreign power fund the LLF but just enough to be pirates and not insurgents

Possible yes, though that has happened in the RP with the Sampornese National Party (SNP) Leader, Biru bin Rajah, being granted asylum in the Polish Prussian Commonwealth.
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Postby Raltirian Denethier » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:41 am

I mean, if it isn't objectionable to everyone else, I was hoping to intervene against the Jamahiriya.

It wouldn't necessarily mean deploying the armada, of course, but at least trying to prop up anti-government forces be a logical start, potentially followed by some limited force deployments if such an opportunity presents itself. Of course, that's assuming we don't necessarily want things to wrap up soon.

As for my army, if it makes the OP feel better, the force is proportionally no larger than the Israeli Defense Forces, for example. It's simply a matter of scaling up the population and the economy.

Naturally, you're not going to be seeing a million men landing on your shores. That's out of the question.
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Began RPing on Facebook Nations forums in September of 2008, joined with the Aels group (for nations without real world locations) in the next few months as one of the first three members, and have been playing loyally ever since. Since Facebook Nations is in deep decline and is very nearly dead, we make our home here.

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Postby Pan-Asiatic States » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:46 am

Raltirian Denethier wrote:I mean, if it isn't objectionable to everyone else, I was hoping to intervene against the Jamahiriya.

It wouldn't necessarily mean deploying the armada, of course, but at least trying to prop up anti-government forces be a logical start, potentially followed by some limited force deployments if such an opportunity presents itself. Of course, that's assuming we don't necessarily want things to wrap up soon.

As for my army, if it makes the OP feel better, the force is proportionally no larger than the Israeli Defense Forces, for example. It's simply a matter of scaling up the population and the economy.

Naturally, you're not going to be seeing a million men landing on your shores. That's out of the question.



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