OOC: Not AGAIN!!! (Semi-closed)

[Arivada]

Could you write up a post of whatever you would deploy and post it in this thread?

Include the following:
ORBAT
Time of arrival compared to the present date (eg 10 years from now rather than 2019 AD)
Name of commander
Who you are supporting

(OOC: This does not count.)
General Dearon was on the Carrier Enterprise-5 in the 7th fleet with 167 ships. The massive carrier thanks to the new funds. Dearon was leading the peacekeepers helping in the Kagetor-Dawood war.
"General we are approching the forgien country to help with wounded and protect civilans. We will arrive in 5 days."Admiral Aber said.
"Good i want the troops ready with in a day."Dearon said.
"Okay i'll aware them" The Arivadians were going to help with the wounded from both sides and the protection of civilans. Dearon was nervous one side or the other was going to shoot at the peacekeepers. He hoped not because then either the peacekeepers would have to join a side or devote a side to protection of civilans and combat the enemies. He wanted to worry about it later. He went into his room and went to sleep.

Alright, just remember, everything I say is trying to help.

General Dearon was on the Battleship Enterprise-5. The massive carrier thanks to the new funds.

First off, is the ship a carrier or a battleship? Secondly, how big is the fleet and how many troops are you deploying?

General Dearon was on the Battleship Enterprise-5, a massive carrier built thanks to the new funds. Dearon was leading the peacekeepers helping in the Kagetorian-DaWoad war.
"General we are approaching the foreign country to help with wounded and protect civilians. We will arrive in 5 days," Admiral Aber said.
"Good, I want the troops ready within a day," Dearon said.
"Okay I'll alert them" The Arivadians were going to help with the wounded from both sides and protect civilians. Dearon was nervous that one side or the other was going to shoot at the peacekeepers. He hoped not, because then either the peacekeepers would have to join a side, or devote a side to protection of civilians and another to combat the enemies. He wanted to worry about it later. He went into his room and went to sleep.

Grammar and spelling edits in bold.

Lastly, where are you landing with the fleet?

(Not to do with your post, but you better be ready to come under fire from my forces. A large part of my strategy involves killing civilians in a terror war.)

[Kagetora]

Umm, any particular reason you just quoted my post?

[Arivada]

Umm, any particular reason you just quoted my post?

Faulty post meant to do something else also i edited my post so am I in or not?

[Kagetora]

What kind of ships do you mean when you say 134 massive ships? I have about 15 ships that could be considered "massive" in the invasion force thus far. All of them are either GRF or Nimitz class carriers.

[Arivada]

What kind of ships do you mean when you say 134 massive ships? I have about 15 ships that could be considered "massive" in the invasion force thus far. All of them are either GRF or Nimitz class carriers.

My navy gets alot of funding read my nation.

[DaWoad]

Emplaced:reread the orbat. 400 (ish) in blue cove 100 surrounding and incapable of ingaging with shorter ranged weaps.

Alright

Fleet:my"fleet" fired yah, to do that all 41 have tossed away any hope of defense a single 100+ missile volley will take care of em. (those three waves of missiles are about 20 seconds apart. (40 ships 8 missiles pership at 20 sec. intervals). you can RP the retun fire as reaching my "fleet" and destroying it following the third volley (im allowing you to rp that loss)

*clutches chest* OK, 40x8=320, so 3 volleys of 320 missiles each. You scared me when you posted IC saying you launched 3,200 missiles, I'm totally like AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Myrmidons=marines: I'm assuming that at the moment only the "forward scouting" positions" have been hit and the full force is not engaged yet. I'd said approx 500 survivng in emplaced position as your paras began landing. im assuming your full para force hasn't deployed yet (50 people take a while to prop in a single areas) but is as we speak. those 500 are falling back too/past the main force.

Alright cool, I'd say maybe 1,000 have hit the ground already

Tundra: Primarily Flat (slight rolling hills but essentially nothing in the way of cover . . .um realworld examply would be the Arctic tundra in greenland but slightly warmer)

OK, that should make it fairly easy to take care of.

Questions: No problem i'd prefer to answer OOC'ly before we get IC screwups.

QFT^quadrillion

3200 lmfao *looks guilty* add an extra zero???? me??? nooooo lol sorry mea culpa

yep 1 000 with more from the ski still arriving works perfectly for me

and Yah, i'll do what I can about getting one of my 3 bill ish allies in on this

[The Grand World Order]

Well, I 'figger my Navy's going to be rather important to the RP, so I might as well describe it.

The GWO navy, while still having some balance, is dominated by aircraft carriers and missiles, with submarines also playing an important role. It uses LOTS of decoys with LOTS of munitions at the same time.

My Navy also will be testing out the Schlieffen anti-ship missile in this RP. If you have questions, I'm willing to answer.

About armor; armor on ships, at least extremely thick armor, isn't worth the sacrifice when even plane-based anti-ship missiles can sink a Super Dreadnought in a single hit if they hit the right region. While I agree putting no armor on a ship is asking for trouble, putting too much slows the ship down and can even take up weight that could be used for a weapons system instead.

Alright solid. Um seeing as how I'm going to go up against it I'll tell you about my fleet as well um but first one question, Ammo wise: What are you willing to tell me about your missiles and torpedoes

my fleet
General Doctrine: Defensive Aircraft, Offensive missile strikes and guns. Guns are the primary "onr hit kill" weapons of my fleet while Missiles Act more to damage, confuse sensors and try to occupy the ennemy fleet while my fleet closes. That being said any element of the fleet CAN produce a kill either through luck or thorough overwellming numbers.

Subs: Almost entirely hunter killers. Primed to go after ennemy subs. My entire navy has about 20 missile submarines designed to attack fleets or land Targets.

Missiles: Ballistic Missiles are used at long range but tend to be innefective and used only against fleeing, already disabled or immobile targets. Cruise Missiles are used at mid range but have little to no manuverability all of which must be pre-programmed though endstage retargeting is possible. Short range Sea Skimmers are the ASDN's best anti-ship weapon. Capable of manuver in both end and mid flight. All of the weapons are mexed, designed to punch through light to midrange armorbut to provide enough of a blast radius to damage exposed personell, sensors etc. heavy armor may require 3 or more hits to make it through.

Missile defense: This is where my fleet excelles. Multiple "layers" of missile defense exists. The first ranges to 250km at but with only a 70% hit kill ratio on a zero deflection target that is incapable of manuver and with no ennemy interference. There are three other "bubbles" at 70, 50 and 8 km with CWIS covering the last 750m with increasing hit probabilities at lower ranges. The best way around that defense is saturation (too many missiles to kill) but thats though to do. Maunvering missiles and ECM working in combination will also help.

Armor:light-mediumon all but D, SD and CFF classes. Due to the dedicated nature of each ship ship performance is not significantly degraded by the presence of armor. (strike class boats have essentially no armor as they are simple missile attacks boats only. They also have little in the way of dedicated missile defense)

Torpedoes: Light, designed only to punch holes in the (generally thin) armor of ennemy subs. not an effective anti-ship weapon unless used in rediculous numbers. Small torpedoes provide some active defense though this is limited. The ASD rellies pramarily on decoys, jamming and range to deal with ennemy torpedoes threats.
any other questions feel free to ask.

Well, my Navy uses a variety of missiles; in shorter ranges, it uses the "Sieg" Hypersonic Cruise Missile, which, at a sacrifice of range, can achieve speeds around and above Mach 5, depending on the payload. Often, these will be masked by armies of decoy missiles with basic, cheap explosives and equally cheap and crappy guidance systems.

The Schlieffen missile is an experimental design me and some people I know thought up, where a missile serves as a booster for a pod of torpedoes, thus allowing me to torpedo your ships from a much further range, since torpedoes are known for having a tiny range compared to cruise missiles. After the torpedoes are released, the missile body continues to fly at the ships, serving as a decoy.

Missile defense is covered by the fact that most surface ships (I.e., Destroyers, Frigates, Cruisers) are effectively arsenal ships with huge amounts of VLS tubes, which are used both for offensive missile launches and defensive ones. All ships have CIWS (In the form of the Millenium Gun) and THEL systems aboard to deal with whatever gets through the planes and missiles.

Torpedoes are usually loaded to make explosions large enough to hopefully reach the ship's magazines - thus causing a chain of rather large explosions. If they don't reach that, hopefully they'll hit something important.

If the enemy fleet is remarkably close, Marine Attack Boats will be called upon to swarm said ships with speed and large Depleted Uranium rounds, or to drop off Marine Divers to board or plant mines on ships. Of course, ships hopefully would never get this close.

Submarines are primarily used as stealthy attack vessels, as they should. Most of the GWO's submarines are either small, stealthy T-212 anti-shipping submarines or giant Akula Typhoon submarines for pounding ground targets (Most Akula Typhoons are reconfigured for conventional use), or even to deliver nuclear ordnance. Of course, the Federation rarely uses nuclear firepower.

The doctrine of the GWO Federal Navy is to devastate the enemy fleet as quickly as possible from long ranges. In an ideal battle, the Navy would sink the enemy fleet in one giant volley of missiles and aircraft. Meanwhile, ECM and jamming are constantly ordered against enemy targets; you will never see a GWO air group without EA-18G Growlers with them.

[Kagetora]

The Shogunate is interested in purchasing the manufacturing rights for the Schlieffen Missile.

[The Grand World Order]

The Shogunate is interested in purchasing the manufacturing rights for the Schlieffen Missile.

I still need to test the design and get a few OOC things right before I can start selling the Schlieffen.

[Kagetora]

If you would send prototypes, we can fieldtest them in the current conflict to satisfy the first obstacle.

[Arivada]

am i in or not?

[DaWoad]

Well, my Navy uses a variety of missiles; in shorter ranges, it uses the "Sieg" Hypersonic Cruise Missile, which, at a sacrifice of range, can achieve speeds around and above Mach 5, depending on the payload. Often, these will be masked by armies of decoy missiles with basic, cheap explosives and equally cheap and crappy guidance systems.

The Schlieffen missile is an experimental design me and some people I know thought up, where a missile serves as a booster for a pod of torpedoes, thus allowing me to torpedo your ships from a much further range, since torpedoes are known for having a tiny range compared to cruise missiles. After the torpedoes are released, the missile body continues to fly at the ships, serving as a decoy.

Missile defense is covered by the fact that most surface ships (I.e., Destroyers, Frigates, Cruisers) are effectively arsenal ships with huge amounts of VLS tubes, which are used both for offensive missile launches and defensive ones. All ships have CIWS (In the form of the Millenium Gun) and THEL systems aboard to deal with whatever gets through the planes and missiles.

Torpedoes are usually loaded to make explosions large enough to hopefully reach the ship's magazines - thus causing a chain of rather large explosions. If they don't reach that, hopefully they'll hit something important.

If the enemy fleet is remarkably close, Marine Attack Boats will be called upon to swarm said ships with speed and large Depleted Uranium rounds, or to drop off Marine Divers to board or plant mines on ships. Of course, ships hopefully would never get this close.

Submarines are primarily used as stealthy attack vessels, as they should. Most of the GWO's submarines are either small, stealthy T-212 anti-shipping submarines or giant Akula Typhoon submarines for pounding ground targets (Most Akula Typhoons are reconfigured for conventional use), or even to deliver nuclear ordnance. Of course, the Federation rarely uses nuclear firepower.

The doctrine of the GWO Federal Navy is to devastate the enemy fleet as quickly as possible from long ranges. In an ideal battle, the Navy would sink the enemy fleet in one giant volley of missiles and aircraft. Meanwhile, ECM and jamming are constantly ordered against enemy targets; you will never see a GWO air group without EA-18G Growlers with them.

Thanks . Sounds like this should be interesting. I though the info would probably help with the RP. Just so I have some idea of the impact to expect from missiles etc. and so I could rp their effect properly.

[DaWoad]

sorry about the emplaced defenses Kage I thought you missed the Anti-sea missile volley as well as the AS guns .

As to the infantry training and weaponry healps . . .it does .. .alot in fact, but assaulting head on, with lack of cover even against less well trained troops who outnumber you more than 20 to one is stupid. More importantly your gonna lose more than 75 people when 4 000 shoot at your group of 200. (400 platoons 10 people per platoon etc.). Examples in RL include the assault on a (syrian?) airstrip by delta. With no cover but facing "bodygaurds" only they suffered heavy losses simply because they had no cover and their supperior training and weaponry could not be brouth into effect.) . SDo yes having elite troops is great. But come on bro. All the training and weaponmry in the world wont help you when your outnumbered 20 to 1 taken by surprise and attempting a frontal assault on well emplaced positions.

I'ma edit my post about emplacements but I'd like both a response to the 3 000 missile volley launched by the emplacements as well as an edit for realism on the 200 vs 4 000 assault.

[Ostronopolis]

So DaWoad, do you want help?

[Kagetora]

sorry about the emplaced defenses Kage I thought you missed the Anti-sea missile volley as well as the AS guns .

As to the infantry training and weaponry healps . . .it does .. .alot in fact, but assaulting head on, with lack of cover even against less well trained troops who outnumber you more than 20 to one is stupid. More importantly your gonna lose more than 75 people when 4 000 shoot at your group of 200. (400 platoons 10 people per platoon etc.). Examples in RL include the assault on a (syrian?) airstrip by delta. With no cover but facing "bodygaurds" only they suffered heavy losses simply because they had no cover and their supperior training and weaponry could not be brouth into effect.) . SDo yes having elite troops is great. But come on bro. All the training and weaponmry in the world wont help you when your outnumbered 20 to 1 taken by surprise and attempting a frontal assault on well emplaced positions.

I'ma edit my post about emplacements but I'd like both a response to the 3 000 missile volley launched by the emplacements as well as an edit for realism on the 200 vs 4 000 assault.

For your second point, they weren't taken totally by surprise. Unless there's something I don't know, infrared sees through a smoke screen, which means I could see you (to some extent). But you're right about the losses, they are somewhat ridiculously small. I'll edit that. (On another note, a platoon typically consists of about 30 people)

Also, I'm guessing you're thinking of something along the lines of this starting at about 3:10

3,000 missile volley? Hmm. I'll relook at the posts and edit that accordingly.

[Beth Gellert]

Sorry I'm still not getting involved... it may happen, but I keep giving in to the heat and deciding I'd be better off in a beer garden

I'm not up to date with the IC thread, but since I'm a tad drunk (see above!) I can't help throwing up vaguely related information.

There is such a thing as an infrared-opaque smokescreen, or at least aerosol screen, thought I don't know if that's what has been deployed. Many Beddgelen tanks can deploy such a screen to defend against IR and laser guided weapons.

On troops, training, and shooting people... I note that Kagetora had 75 of 200 fall 'never to rise' (that's about all I've read, I admit), so presumably others were also wounded, and the 200 is pretty much FUBAR.
Still, as to hit ratios, soldiers without proper modern training generally don't shoot directly at other people with the intention of hitting them. I remember something about experiements carried out by the Prussian army with soldiers firing at inanimate targets vs. soldiers firing at people (even those standing in a line in bright coats, facing them), research into soldiers in WWII, and the difference between British and Argentine soldiers as recently as 1982 rather suggesting that only -at most- five or so percent of soldiers in the Prussian, WWII, and Argentine cases were pointing their personal weapons at a particular enemy soldier and then discharching said weapons with an intent to kill, where as with soldiers given modern training it was more like ninety-odd percent. Others were still fighting, in a manner of speaking, and facing danger head on, but often they were firing into the air, ground, or just in the general direction of the enemy without being able to bear the act of picking out another human being and deciding to end his life.
Coincidentally the ratio of soldiers without intensive modern training shooting to kill was allegedly not dissimilar to the frequency of sociopaths to be expected in a given population.

Nothing concrete there, I'm not offering sources at the moment, but just a thought. Consider how many soldiers were killed on the beaches of Normandy, and they were facing mines, indirect shelling, and indiscriminate machinegun fire. Without wanting to diminish the horror of the event, the overwhelming majority weren't shot, despite wading towards prepared firing positions.

Important to me 'cause a lot of Beddgelen military doctrine revolves around the highland charge, and I've looked into its viability a fair bit.

This got long-winded, sorry. Would probably have been more concise were I sobererer

[Kagetora]

That's cool, but I edited it.

Nice to see you're somewhat up-to-date

[DaWoad]

Sorry I'm still not getting involved... it may happen, but I keep giving in to the heat and deciding I'd be better off in a beer garden

I'm not up to date with the IC thread, but since I'm a tad drunk (see above!) I can't help throwing up vaguely related information.

There is such a thing as an infrared-opaque smokescreen, or at least aerosol screen, thought I don't know if that's what has been deployed. Many Beddgelen tanks can deploy such a screen to defend against IR and laser guided weapons.

On troops, training, and shooting people... I note that Kagetora had 75 of 200 fall 'never to rise' (that's about all I've read, I admit), so presumably others were also wounded, and the 200 is pretty much FUBAR.
Still, as to hit ratios, soldiers without proper modern training generally don't shoot directly at other people with the intention of hitting them. I remember something about experiements carried out by the Prussian army with soldiers firing at inanimate targets vs. soldiers firing at people (even those standing in a line in bright coats, facing them), research into soldiers in WWII, and the difference between British and Argentine soldiers as recently as 1982 rather suggesting that only -at most- five or so percent of soldiers in the Prussian, WWII, and Argentine cases were pointing their personal weapons at a particular enemy soldier and then discharching said weapons with an intent to kill, where as with soldiers given modern training it was more like ninety-odd percent. Others were still fighting, in a manner of speaking, and facing danger head on, but often they were firing into the air, ground, or just in the general direction of the enemy without being able to bear the act of picking out another human being and deciding to end his life.
Coincidentally the ratio of soldiers without intensive modern training shooting to kill was allegedly not dissimilar to the frequency of sociopaths to be expected in a given population.

Nothing concrete there, I'm not offering sources at the moment, but just a thought. Consider how many soldiers were killed on the beaches of Normandy, and they were facing mines, indirect shelling, and indiscriminate machinegun fire. Without wanting to diminish the horror of the event, the overwhelming majority weren't shot, despite wading towards prepared firing positions.

Important to me 'cause a lot of Beddgelen military doctrine revolves around the highland charge, and I've looked into its viability a fair bit.

This got long-winded, sorry. Would probably have been more concise were I sobererer

lol thanks . .. to a certain extent. Um I think ya might wanna read up on the IC though. The story is essentially that KAGE's Elite forces are going up against what would amount to reservists(a little more shooting and manuver training but a little less in the way of moral, combat experience time in service etc.). even with a 5% shot that woul;d still have a hundred percent hit ratio and these troops do have modern training. As to the smoke screen? no but they are in concrete emplacements specifically designed to provide a defense (albeit with better trained and manned troops, artilliary support and generally designed to repel an assault from the sea rather than Paratroopers(subtle hint on a work around there Kage lol)) Against this type of stuff.

[DaWoad]

That's cool, but I edited it.

Nice to see you're somewhat up-to-date

lol hey Kage um Yah sorry feel free to have some of your troopers duck back into the smoke or w/e (and yah I've never managed to get over the idea that platoon=10 thus if I refer to it as that again please assume im talking about ten person teams). That being said its ALOT of fire power even if it is direct fire weapons lol. Actually If you just upped the casualties slightly and had the rest perform some sort of "retreat under fire" manuver I'd have no problem with that or whatever else u wanna do.

as to starwars . . .Awesome lol. No but I swear there is a SEAL/DELTA/Something operation where a number of Delta/seal/whoever guys attempted to capture a wanted leader on an airstrip by assaulting directly across the tarmack. They we're mostly shotdown by ennemy fire and only ended up capturing the guy after calling in air support or something along those lines. i know it was against badly trained bodyguards though.

[Kagetora]

lol thanks . .. to a certain extent. Um I think ya might wanna read up on the IC though. The story is essentially that KAGE's Elite forces are going up against what would amount to reservists(a little more shooting and manuver training but a little less in the way of moral, combat experience time in service etc.). even with a 5% shot that woul;d still have a hundred percent hit ratio and these troops do have modern training. As to the smoke screen? no but they are in concrete emplacements specifically designed to provide a defense (albeit with better trained and manned troops, artilliary support and generally designed to repel an assault from the sea rather than Paratroopers(subtle hint on a work around there Kage lol)) Against this type of stuff.

I like how my name is in all capitals. And I was already considering dropping some behind the lines, but I want to see how things play out for a little while.

lol hey Kage um Yah sorry feel free to have some of your troopers duck back into the smoke or w/e (and yah I've never managed to get over the idea that platoon=10 thus if I refer to it as that again please assume im talking about ten person teams). That being said its ALOT of fire power even if it is direct fire weapons lol. Actually If you just upped the casualties slightly and had the rest perform some sort of "retreat under fire" manuver I'd have no problem with that or whatever else u wanna do.

Retreat? I don't think my people understand that word. Essentially my army is like the Imperial Japanese Army. TO DA DEATH!

[Allied Governments]

lol thanks . .. to a certain extent. Um I think ya might wanna read up on the IC though. The story is essentially that KAGE's Elite forces are going up against what would amount to reservists(a little more shooting and manuver training but a little less in the way of moral, combat experience time in service etc.). even with a 5% shot that woul;d still have a hundred percent hit ratio and these troops do have modern training. As to the smoke screen? no but they are in concrete emplacements specifically designed to provide a defense (albeit with better trained and manned troops, artilliary support and generally designed to repel an assault from the sea rather than Paratroopers(subtle hint on a work around there Kage lol)) Against this type of stuff.

I like how my name is in all capitals. And I was already considering dropping some behind the lines, but I want to see how things play out for a little while.

lol hey Kage um Yah sorry feel free to have some of your troopers duck back into the smoke or w/e (and yah I've never managed to get over the idea that platoon=10 thus if I refer to it as that again please assume im talking about ten person teams). That being said its ALOT of fire power even if it is direct fire weapons lol. Actually If you just upped the casualties slightly and had the rest perform some sort of "retreat under fire" manuver I'd have no problem with that or whatever else u wanna do.

Retreat? I don't think my people understand that word. Essentially my army is like the Imperial Japanese Army. TO DA DEATH!

The Federation would like to note the result of the war in relation to the Imperial Japanese Army.

As a wise Decepticon once said, "Cowards do sometimes live."

[Kagetora]

I would also like to point out the massive difference in technology, production power, and size between the IJA and the KTAF.

Retreat and surrender are considered borderline treason.

[Allied Governments]

I would also like to point out the massive difference in technology, production power, and size between the IJA and the KTAF.

Retreat and surrender are considered borderline treason.

Very true, come to think of it, the same would happen to a Praetorian who retreated... We don't seem so different, after all.

[Kagetora]

Myrmidons
"Shit!" Yelled Harry as a round zipped less than two centimeters by his head knocking his rifle, and his next shot, wild. "Sarge?"

"What?" Asked Sargent Cory, officially taking control of the squad from the now deceased female Sargent.

"Sir?" Said harry Surprised then "Sir we're being overwhelmed. Troops on the line are mostly Pinned by ennemy fire and they are only bringing up more reinforcements. It looks like their dropping in more people at regular intervals. Sir we cannot hold this line for long."

"Sir for the record." Said Sam Plastered down on the bottom of his hide but still lay down aimed, continuous fire from his battle rifle. "I concur."

"Fine." Said cory then switch to All freqs. "All grenadiers Theta i say again, Theta."

On his command aproxametly 400 grenadiers, one from each squad of ten, Opened fire for the first time. Each grenadier Fired a single grey tagged round a preassigned targets. The effect of this act was to make a second barrier of smoke between the embattled Mirmydons and their opponants. The gas masks and IR wouldn't help with this barrier of smoke either. This gas was, infact made by dispersing White Phosphorus via low level explosives. On contact with the air the WP burned fircely Creating both Smoke and a massive amount of heat. As the smoke went up the 400 squads, now with only 3700 members backed off but not before laying a few very suspicious looking objects in concealed positions. The semi circles collapsed backwards under the cover of smoke, towards a single line bewteen the two buildings

Emplaced Defenses]
"Ok thats about that." Said a Reserve Lieutenant as the last of the offensive weaponry in his command was taken out. He flipped to the command frequency and gave an order that was pretty much redundant. "Hunker Down."

It was the only possible option, with a missile barrage destroying everything outside their command bunkers going out would have been suicide and so the troopers bunkered down and stopped going offensive, switched off radar and Hunkered down in the lowest, most heavily protected parts of their bunkers as ennemy strikes shook the ground around them.

On the WP, does it ignite on contact with air like Greek Fire? After a quick Wiki search, it seems like it, but I would like a confirmation.

Also, shutting down won't make much difference for the defenses. Their positions have been tagged by the ships based on their firing.

[DaWoad]

Myrmidons
"Shit!" Yelled Harry as a round zipped less than two centimeters by his head knocking his rifle, and his next shot, wild. "Sarge?"

"What?" Asked Sargent Cory, officially taking control of the squad from the now deceased female Sargent.

"Sir?" Said harry Surprised then "Sir we're being overwhelmed. Troops on the line are mostly Pinned by ennemy fire and they are only bringing up more reinforcements. It looks like their dropping in more people at regular intervals. Sir we cannot hold this line for long."

"Sir for the record." Said Sam Plastered down on the bottom of his hide but still lay down aimed, continuous fire from his battle rifle. "I concur."

"Fine." Said cory then switch to All freqs. "All grenadiers Theta i say again, Theta."

On his command aproxametly 400 grenadiers, one from each squad of ten, Opened fire for the first time. Each grenadier Fired a single grey tagged round a preassigned targets. The effect of this act was to make a second barrier of smoke between the embattled Mirmydons and their opponants. The gas masks and IR wouldn't help with this barrier of smoke either. This gas was, infact made by dispersing White Phosphorus via low level explosives. On contact with the air the WP burned fircely Creating both Smoke and a massive amount of heat. As the smoke went up the 400 squads, now with only 3700 members backed off but not before laying a few very suspicious looking objects in concealed positions. The semi circles collapsed backwards under the cover of smoke, towards a single line bewteen the two buildings

Emplaced Defenses]
"Ok thats about that." Said a Reserve Lieutenant as the last of the offensive weaponry in his command was taken out. He flipped to the command frequency and gave an order that was pretty much redundant. "Hunker Down."

It was the only possible option, with a missile barrage destroying everything outside their command bunkers going out would have been suicide and so the troopers bunkered down and stopped going offensive, switched off radar and Hunkered down in the lowest, most heavily protected parts of their bunkers as ennemy strikes shook the ground around them.

On the WP, does it ignite on contact with air like Greek Fire? After a quick Wiki search, it seems like it, but I would like a confirmation.

Also, shutting down won't make much difference for the defenses. Their positions have been tagged by the ships based on their firing.

WP yep it does ignite on contact with air

as to shutting down Oh i am soooo aware lol its just my options are entirely limited. They go outside . . .they die . . .they stay inside maybe they survive. Either way those guns are outta action.