OOC: Not AGAIN!!! (Semi-closed)

[Allied Governments]

Armor thickness would be nice. It sounds to me like you're extremely vulnerable to torpedo attacks.

Every ship has an achilles heel, after all.

They did design for Submarines, just not offensive attacks against them (That is why they have Tenex Cruisers guarding them, they have the most advanced Anti-Sub weaponry that The Federation can fiscally mass produce.) The Leviathan has an above surface armor thickness of 12 inches (75% of deck) and 16 inches (25% of deck) comprised of a Nickel-Chromium-Molybdenum alloy with trace amounts of Tungsten (this combination, while expensive, has proven to be 10-15% better then Vickers Hardened Steel, which is the standard armor for combat ships.) Nickel-Chromium-Molybdenum alloy has also proven to bend and warp when struck with explosives, rather then fracture.

Below surface armor thickness is roughly 14 inches of the same material used above deck, to protect against submarine attack the sub-surface hull has an advanced ablative armor coating, which explodes outward when hit with a torpedo. The damage that does get through that is localized due to a compartment system which automatically seals off flooding compartments with bulkheads. Shockwaves created by the torpedo explosion are dissipated due to a shock absorption system.

[Kagetora]

Well I'm thinking this is a prime target for God Rods. Anything else is just not worth the time or money.

[The Grand World Order]

Well, I 'figger my Navy's going to be rather important to the RP, so I might as well describe it.

The GWO navy, while still having some balance, is dominated by aircraft carriers and missiles, with submarines also playing an important role. It uses LOTS of decoys with LOTS of munitions at the same time.

My Navy also will be testing out the Schlieffen anti-ship missile in this RP. If you have questions, I'm willing to answer.

About armor; armor on ships, at least extremely thick armor, isn't worth the sacrifice when even plane-based anti-ship missiles can sink a Super Dreadnought in a single hit if they hit the right region. While I agree putting no armor on a ship is asking for trouble, putting too much slows the ship down and can even take up weight that could be used for a weapons system instead.

[Allied Governments]

Well I'm thinking this is a prime target for God Rods. Anything else is just not worth the time or money.

You're willing to spend that much money on taking down my ship? I should feel honored.

Also, don't God Rods take at least 1 minute to fully hit their target?

[The Grand World Order]

Well I'm thinking this is a prime target for God Rods. Anything else is just not worth the time or money.

You're willing to spend that much money on taking down my ship? I should feel honored.

Also, don't God Rods take at least 1 minute to fully hit their target?

One thing you also have to consider is this: What is more valuable, the Leviathan or a tungsten pole dropped from Space?

[Allied Governments]

Well I'm thinking this is a prime target for God Rods. Anything else is just not worth the time or money.

You're willing to spend that much money on taking down my ship? I should feel honored.

Also, don't God Rods take at least 1 minute to fully hit their target?

One thing you also have to consider is this: What is more valuable, the Leviathan or a tungsten pole dropped from Space?

You have a point, although I would admit that the chances of him hitting a moving target, even one as big as a Leviathan-Class Super Dreadnought, is slim (unless he can sabotage it's engines or keep my ship still for a minute.)

Also, it's not like I have a lot of these ships, they are meant as flagships for each of my four massive "Oceanic" fleets. There are:

Leviathan: Commanded by Admiral Karl Hendrickson
Tiamat: Commanded by Admiral Tiberius
Titan: Commanded by Admiral Diomechus
Behemoth (being sold): Will be replaced by the last planned ship in the Leviathan-Series until further noticed, will be christened in 2 months, will be named the Basilisk (newest and most powerful model, will be commanded by Karl Hendrickson, who will be replaced by Captain Uran on the Leviathan.)

[DaWoad]

@DW: Is the tundra surrounding your nation flat or hilly?

Also, sorry for so many questions, but I want to be absolutely sure of what I respond to.
So, you fired 3 waves of 3,200 missiles each at my fleet from your fleet?

For the emplaced defenses, in your ORBAT, you had 100. In your IC, you said 500. There's a mighty big difference.

And for the Myrmidons, is there a difference between your Marines and Myrmidons? (below)

Throughout Blue cove the same scene repeated itself. The five hundred odd Marines who were currently engaged in combat and had survived the initial ennemy landings popped some and abbandoned positions heading south. Few few, cut off or unable to retreat continued to fire on the ennemies but we're soon silenced by ennemy fire and grenades.

Emplaced:reread the orbat. 400 (ish) in blue cove 100 surrounding and incapable of ingaging with shorter ranged weaps.

Fleet:my"fleet" fired yah, to do that all 41 have tossed away any hope of defense a single 100+ missile volley will take care of em. (those three waves of missiles are about 20 seconds apart. (40 ships 8 missiles pership at 20 sec. intervals). you can RP the retun fire as reaching my "fleet" and destroying it following the third volley (im allowing you to rp that loss)

Myrmidons=marines: I'm assuming that at the moment only the "forward scouting" positions" have been hit and the full force is not engaged yet. I'd said approx 500 survivng in emplaced position as your paras began landing. im assuming your full para force hasn't deployed yet (50 people take a while to prop in a single areas) but is as we speak. those 500 are falling back too/past the main force.

Tundra: Primarily Flat (slight rolling hills but essentially nothing in the way of cover . . .um realworld examply would be the Arctic tundra in greenland but slightly warmer)

Questions: No problem i'd prefer to answer OOC'ly before we get IC screwups.

[DaWoad]

Well, I 'figger my Navy's going to be rather important to the RP, so I might as well describe it.

The GWO navy, while still having some balance, is dominated by aircraft carriers and missiles, with submarines also playing an important role. It uses LOTS of decoys with LOTS of munitions at the same time.

My Navy also will be testing out the Schlieffen anti-ship missile in this RP. If you have questions, I'm willing to answer.

About armor; armor on ships, at least extremely thick armor, isn't worth the sacrifice when even plane-based anti-ship missiles can sink a Super Dreadnought in a single hit if they hit the right region. While I agree putting no armor on a ship is asking for trouble, putting too much slows the ship down and can even take up weight that could be used for a weapons system instead.

Alright solid. Um seeing as how I'm going to go up against it I'll tell you about my fleet as well um but first one question, Ammo wise: What are you willing to tell me about your missiles and torpedoes

my fleet
General Doctrine: Defensive Aircraft, Offensive missile strikes and guns. Guns are the primary "onr hit kill" weapons of my fleet while Missiles Act more to damage, confuse sensors and try to occupy the ennemy fleet while my fleet closes. That being said any element of the fleet CAN produce a kill either through luck or thorough overwellming numbers.

Subs: Almost entirely hunter killers. Primed to go after ennemy subs. My entire navy has about 20 missile submarines designed to attack fleets or land Targets.

Missiles: Ballistic Missiles are used at long range but tend to be innefective and used only against fleeing, already disabled or immobile targets. Cruise Missiles are used at mid range but have little to no manuverability all of which must be pre-programmed though endstage retargeting is possible. Short range Sea Skimmers are the ASDN's best anti-ship weapon. Capable of manuver in both end and mid flight. All of the weapons are mexed, designed to punch through light to midrange armorbut to provide enough of a blast radius to damage exposed personell, sensors etc. heavy armor may require 3 or more hits to make it through.

Missile defense: This is where my fleet excelles. Multiple "layers" of missile defense exists. The first ranges to 250km at but with only a 70% hit kill ratio on a zero deflection target that is incapable of manuver and with no ennemy interference. There are three other "bubbles" at 70, 50 and 8 km with CWIS covering the last 750m with increasing hit probabilities at lower ranges. The best way around that defense is saturation (too many missiles to kill) but thats though to do. Maunvering missiles and ECM working in combination will also help.

Armor:light-mediumon all but D, SD and CFF classes. Due to the dedicated nature of each ship ship performance is not significantly degraded by the presence of armor. (strike class boats have essentially no armor as they are simple missile attacks boats only. They also have little in the way of dedicated missile defense)

Torpedoes: Light, designed only to punch holes in the (generally thin) armor of ennemy subs. not an effective anti-ship weapon unless used in rediculous numbers. Small torpedoes provide some active defense though this is limited. The ASD rellies pramarily on decoys, jamming and range to deal with ennemy torpedoes threats.
any other questions feel free to ask.

[DaWoad]

I figgured I'd write up a simple OOC statement of how I've seen the battle go so far just to avoid confusion etc.

Opening: "ennemy" navy nears ASD'ian waters as a massive airfleet beings a staggered takeoff

Second: ASD'ian forces recieve warning, begin scrambling, "ennemy" atteck aircraft launch and come forward.

Third: Interceptors and AWAKS complete launch, civillian evac underway, ennemy fighters approach combat zone and ASD'ian strike fighters begin takeoff. Myrmidons are called into positions

Fourth:Ennemy cruise missiles strike airfields, Stray strikes destroy some civilian infrastructure and one empalced defensive position. Interceptors and ennemy fighters begin air-air combat. ASD'ian Fleet moves towards ennemy fleet clawing to close range in an attempt to at least dammage the ennemy fleet. Ennemy Paratroops are nearly at drop area.

Fifth:Ennemy Paratroopers drop. Specified ASD'ian Myrmidon positions open fire. Strike fighters launch. Interceptors launch. Navy continues to close distance.

Sixth ennemy fighters open fire as ASD'ian strike fighters pull out and Interceptors attempt to close the distance. ASD'ian Fleet forces open Fire. Ennemy Paratroopers being assault as forward positioned Myrmidons pull out. Civilian and none-combat ready evac manages outrange combat zone. Interceptors all but destroyed. Emplaced defenses open fire on navy, and airforce units-two further defenses that were immediatly landed upon and overrun by paratroopers. Ennemy paratroopers continue to launch

Now:Ennemy return fire on ASD'ian navy and emplaced positions? civilian and non-combat ready continue to fleet? Paratroopers continue to drop, paratroopers reach main myrmidon resistance points, Strike Fighters leave ennemy engagement zone.

Soon: ASD'ian inital reinforcements deploy nearby, futher emplaced combat, further ground combat ennemy reiforments begin to deploy, paradrop ends.

Later: tundra combat zone

Much later: ASD"ian primary forces engage reinforced ennemy forces, RIF fleet enters combat with GWO, possible southern Combat Zone begins

Much Much later? who knows?

[DaWoad]

lol last post in a row i swear!

Ostronopolis would like to join in on my side with an immediate naval deployment (probably arriving after the battle for blue cove is done (i lose :| lol)). Possible army/airforce deployment later on maybe in the southern combat zone? how would the rest of you feel about that?

[Kagetora]

To the combat timeline, that sounds pretty accurate.

As to Ostronopolis, my allies have been kinda dogpiling, so I'd feel like an asshole if I said you couldn't draw upon your friends.

[Allied Governments]

Looks like the Allied Governments Observation Fleet is going to get stuck between the very angry ASD fleet, and the tactical SNAFU that it is observing.

[Kagetora]

That sounds likely. The question is, what are you going to do when that happens?

Of course, the ASD fleet won't be returning for ~3 IC weeks.

[Allied Governments]

That sounds likely. The question is, what are you going to do when that happens?

Of course, the ASD fleet won't be returning for ~3 IC weeks.

Getting the hell out of dodge.

Aka, next post after someone posts in that thread.

[Kagetora]

Actually in the next few posts, I'd imagine that ASD will be sending a message recalling his navy, but not that it shows up.

Besides, I requested that Greater Americania and The Grand World Order (officially) and have been in contact with Xin Han (via TG) attempt to engage or delay the ASD fleet, which could hypothetically mean they either never arrive, arrive at a later date, or arrive in smaller numbers.

And in 3 weeks, my military will have begun pushing up the river and possibly into the mainland, and GA and GWO might have opened the southern front. (might being a key word)

[Kagetora]

Emplaced:reread the orbat. 400 (ish) in blue cove 100 surrounding and incapable of ingaging with shorter ranged weaps.

Alright

Fleet:my"fleet" fired yah, to do that all 41 have tossed away any hope of defense a single 100+ missile volley will take care of em. (those three waves of missiles are about 20 seconds apart. (40 ships 8 missiles pership at 20 sec. intervals). you can RP the retun fire as reaching my "fleet" and destroying it following the third volley (im allowing you to rp that loss)

*clutches chest* OK, 40x8=320, so 3 volleys of 320 missiles each. You scared me when you posted IC saying you launched 3,200 missiles, I'm totally like AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Myrmidons=marines: I'm assuming that at the moment only the "forward scouting" positions" have been hit and the full force is not engaged yet. I'd said approx 500 survivng in emplaced position as your paras began landing. im assuming your full para force hasn't deployed yet (50 people take a while to prop in a single areas) but is as we speak. those 500 are falling back too/past the main force.

Alright cool, I'd say maybe 1,000 have hit the ground already

Tundra: Primarily Flat (slight rolling hills but essentially nothing in the way of cover . . .um realworld examply would be the Arctic tundra in greenland but slightly warmer)

OK, that should make it fairly easy to take care of.

Questions: No problem i'd prefer to answer OOC'ly before we get IC screwups.

QFT^quadrillion

[Kagetora]

Oh yeah just a note, we are fighting over your area, so all downed aircraft are essentially bombs.

[Arivada]

Oh yeah just a note, we are fighting over your area, so all downed aircraft are essentially bombs.

Am i in?

[Kagetora]

I don't remember what we decided.

[Arivada]

I don't remember what we decided.

Well decide quick. If i have to i will right a combat post.

[Kagetora]

Could you write up a post of whatever you would deploy and post it in this thread?

Include the following:
ORBAT
Time of arrival compared to the present date (eg 10 years from now rather than 2019 AD)
Name of commander
Who you are supporting

[Arivada]

I'm a peacekeeper remember?

[Kagetora]

Regardless of your orientation, if you would kindly write a post (as though it were IC) in this thread

(edit) Also make sure you post where you would be landing/airlifting to

[Arivada]

Could you write up a post of whatever you would deploy and post it in this thread?

Include the following:
ORBAT
Time of arrival compared to the present date (eg 10 years from now rather than 2019 AD)
Name of commander
Who you are supporting

(OOC: This does not count.)
General Dearon was on the Carrier Enterprise-5 in the 7th fleet with 134 massive ships. The massive carrier thanks to the new funds. Dearon was leading the peacekeepers helping in the Kagetor-dawood war.
"General we are approching the forgien country to help with wounded and protect civilans. We will arrive in 5 days."Admiral Aber said.
"Good I want the troops ready with in a day."Dearon said.
"Okay I'll aware them" The Arivadians were going to help with the wounded from both sides and the protection of civilans. Dearon was nervous one side or the other was going to shoot at the peacekeepers. He hoped not because then either the peacekeepers would have to join a side or devote a side to protection of civilans and combat the enemies. He wanted to worry about it later. He went into his room and went to sleep. He was prepared to land his One million Peacekeepers in a port in Dawood.

[Kagetora]

Could you write up a post of whatever you would deploy and post it in this thread?

Include the following:
ORBAT
Time of arrival compared to the present date (eg 10 years from now rather than 2019 AD)
Name of commander
Who you are supporting

(OOC: This does not count.)
General Dearon was on the Battleship Enterprise-5. The massive carrier thanks to the new funds. Dearon was leading the peacekeepers helping in the Kagetorian war.
"General we are approching the forgien country to help with wounded and protect civilans. We will arrive in 5 days."Admiral Aber said.
"Good i want the troops ready with in a day."Dearon said.
"Okay i'll aware them" The Arivadians were going to help with the wounded from both sides and the protection of civilans. Dearon was nervous one side or the other was going to shoot at the peacekeepers. He hoped not because then either the peacekeepers would have to join a side or devote a side to protection of civilans and combat the enemies. He wanted to worry about it later. He went into his room and went to sleep.

Alright, just remember, everything I say is trying to help.

General Dearon was on the Battleship Enterprise-5. The massive carrier thanks to the new funds.

First off, is the ship a carrier or a battleship? Secondly, how big is the fleet and how many troops are you deploying?

General Dearon was on the Battleship Enterprise-5, a massive carrier built thanks to the new funds. Dearon was leading the peacekeepers helping in the Kagetorian-DaWoad war.
"General we are approaching the foreign country to help with wounded and protect civilians. We will arrive in 5 days," Admiral Aber said.
"Good, I want the troops ready within a day," Dearon said.
"Okay I'll alert them" The Arivadians were going to help with the wounded from both sides and protect civilians. Dearon was nervous that one side or the other was going to shoot at the peacekeepers. He hoped not, because then either the peacekeepers would have to join a side, or devote a side to protection of civilians and another to combat the enemies. He wanted to worry about it later. He went into his room and went to sleep.

Grammar and spelling edits in bold.

Lastly, where are you landing with the fleet?

(Not to do with your post, but you better be ready to come under fire from my forces. A large part of my strategy involves killing civilians in a terror war.)