NationStates

"The motion to send UN Peacekeepers to Idiocarasia has passed on a 6-3 vote, with New Zealand and Taiwan both voting against.

Therefore, a force will be mustered and deployed to Host of Cara."

OOC: Sorry for the delay. Specifics on the force will be in the Military Thread. Otherwise, votes from now on will take place via nations posting in this thread itself, rather than the poll, because I can't see who's actually voting within the poll to confirm its sanctity.

A new SC proposal to amend the recently passed USC#1: 'Open Space' has reached the floor.

The proposed amendment can be found here.

Page Boleslav, New Sistonian UN Ambassador, raises her placard to be called upon.

"We propose an amendment to Union of Nations Security Council Resolution number one. The reason that we are proposing this is due to our concern of conflict that can occur if an entire system cannot be claimed. For, if nations engage in open conflict, the warfare may spread across many different planets and systems and thus endangering multiple lives. Thus, we would like the resolution amended.

We are aware that there may be questions, so we ask that members ask us so that all may understand why we are proposing this."

*Sits down*

The United States of Amerikinky announces its intention to join the United Nations as a regular member.

Amerikinky wrote:The United States of Amerikinky announces its intention to join the United Nations as a regular member.

OOC: Union of Nations*, to be specific, but no big deal.

You're in, are free to vote on any Union Assembly resolution that reaches the voting floor, and may also propose/debate resolutions regarding either the Assembly or Security Council.

We are devastated to report that the bodies of five members of the Union of Nations were found executed extrajudicially by a mob, having been tarred, feathered, and hanged with piano wire, on the Rue Vermillion in Riverdale after being abducted from a military transport yesterday.

Spyridon Kastrogenos, Cymiopolitan UN Ambassador, raises his placard to be called upon.

"The Cymiopolitan government has issued a condemnation against the Electorate following its debauched savagery in its illegal invasion of Jordan. There is no place for looting and death marches in the 22nd century. We call upon the rest of the UN to do the same and issue sanctions against these brutes.

*Sits down*

We would like to join the Union Assembly. Thank you!

The proposal to amend Security Council resolution #1 is still "in debate." If there are no objections, it will go to vote tomorrow.

Cymiopolis wrote:Spyridon Kastrogenos, Cymiopolitan UN Ambassador, raises his placard to be called upon.

"The Cymiopolitan government has issued a condemnation against the Electorate following its debauched savagery in its illegal invasion of Jordan. There is no place for looting and death marches in the 22nd century. We call upon the rest of the UN to do the same and issue sanctions against these brutes.

*Sits down*

"The motion will be put on the docket for the UN Security Council. Do you wish to include sanctions and a condemnation?

While the resolution establishing the Security Council does not include a condemnation clause, it can be reasonably assumed that it's within the Security Council's jurisdiction."

Electorate wrote:We are devastated to report that the bodies of five members of the Union of Nations were found executed extrajudicially by a mob, having been tarred, feathered, and hanged with piano wire, on the Rue Vermillion in Riverdale after being abducted from a military transport yesterday.

"If true, this is, truly, a terrible tragedy. The UN will pull together a team of its top investigators to confirm these reports as soon as possible."

Malacache wrote:We would like to join the Union Assembly. Thank you!

OOC: Puppets are not allowed to join the Union of Nations. If you mean your main nation Electorate, then I'd be happy to accept you.

Lady Nevsky stands

I vote "Yeah" on the Amendment to SC Resolution 1.1.

- Lady Jean Nevsky
UN Ambassador

"Nay on SCR #2."

Nay on SRC#2

The Soviet State of Fenar would like to express interest in joining the UN.

Fenarr wrote:The Soviet State of Fenar would like to express interest in joining the UN.

We are glad to accept you into the Union of Nations! You may participate in all debate, propose resolutions, and vote on Assembly resolutions only.

Nay on SCR #2

Security Council Resolution #2: Amend 'Open Space' has been defeated on a 5-1 vote with three abstentions.

It would be our pleasure to join the Union of Nations if not for the fact that we are worried by the fact that Korriban, Hutta, Dromund Kaas, and other controlled systems all may violate "Open Space."

Courtesy of Darth Ravage, Sphere of Expansion and Diplomacy

The Reconstituted Sith wrote:It would be our pleasure to join the Union of Nations if not for the fact that we are worried by the fact that Korriban, Hutta, Dromund Kaas, and other controlled systems all may violate "Open Space."

Courtesy of Darth Ravage, Sphere of Expansion and Diplomacy

OOC: We'll talk after your citizenship application is accepted. (Also, you should answer my telegram question as well)

The Electorate Empire would like to officially apply to join the Union of Nations.

Electorate wrote:The Electorate Empire would like to officially apply to join the Union of Nations.

You've been accepted. Welcome.

The Union of Nations wrote:

Electorate wrote:The Electorate Empire would like to officially apply to join the Union of Nations.

You've been accepted. Welcome.

Thank you very much. We hope that we may provide valuable input to this hallowed and august organization.

We believe that Shakadia is using poisoned weapons and would like to bring a proceeding against them in the International Court of Justice or in the International Criminal Court. Thus, we suggest a motion to condemn Shakadia.

The following makes clear our argument from a legal standpoint:
Practice Relating to Rule 72. Poison and Poisoned Weapons
I. Treaties
Hague Regulations (1899)
Article 23(a) of the 1899 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially prohibited … to employ poison or poisoned arms.”
Hague Regulations (1907)
Article 23(a) of the 1907 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially forbidden … to employ poison or poisoned weapons.”
ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xvii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “[e]mploying poison or poisoned weapons” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.
ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(e)(xiii) of the ICC Rome Statute, as amended in 2010, “[e]mploying poison and poisoned weapons” constitutes a war crime also in non-international armed conflicts.
II. Other Instruments
Lieber Code
Article 70 of the 1863 Lieber Code provides: “The use of poison in any manner, be it to poison wells, or food, or arms, is wholly excluded from modern warfare. He that uses it puts himself out of the pale of the law and usages of war.”
Brussels Declaration
Article 13(a) of the 1874 Brussels Declaration states that “[e]mployment of poison or poisoned weapons” is especially forbidden.
Oxford Manual
Article 8(a) of the 1880 Oxford Manual provides: “It is forbidden … to make use of poison, in any form whatever.”
Oxford Manual of Naval War
Article 16(1) of the 1913 Oxford Manual of Naval War provides: “It is forbidden … to employ poison or poisoned weapons.”
Report of the Commission on Responsibility
Based on several documents supplying evidence of outrages committed during the First World War, the 1919 Report of the Commission on Responsibility lists violations of the laws and customs of war which should be subject to criminal prosecution, including the “poisoning of wells”.
ICTY Statute
Article 3(a) of the 1993 ICTY Statute lists “employment of poisonous weapons” as a violation of the laws or customs of war to be subject to the jurisdiction of the Court.
ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind (1996)
Pursuant to Article 20(e)(i) of the 1996 ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind, “[e]mployment of poisonous weapons” is a war crime.
UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15
The UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15 establishes panels with exclusive jurisdiction over serious criminal offences, including war crimes. According to Section 6(1)(b)(xvii), “[e]mploying poison or poisoned weapons” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.

Shakadia wrote:bring it on,the carbia line and shakadian poison bullets will be waiting for you, our ships will destroy you before you even arrive, and even if you do. it'll be like omaha beach but without that victory part, long live death!

Emphasis added.

Electorate wrote:We believe that Shakadia is using poisoned weapons and would like to bring a proceeding against them in the International Court of Justice or in the International Criminal Court. Thus, we suggest a motion to condemn Shakadia.

The following makes clear our argument from a legal standpoint:
Practice Relating to Rule 72. Poison and Poisoned Weapons
I. Treaties
Hague Regulations (1899)
Article 23(a) of the 1899 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially prohibited … to employ poison or poisoned arms.”
Hague Regulations (1907)
Article 23(a) of the 1907 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially forbidden … to employ poison or poisoned weapons.”
ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xvii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “[e]mploying poison or poisoned weapons” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.
ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(e)(xiii) of the ICC Rome Statute, as amended in 2010, “[e]mploying poison and poisoned weapons” constitutes a war crime also in non-international armed conflicts.
II. Other Instruments
Lieber Code
Article 70 of the 1863 Lieber Code provides: “The use of poison in any manner, be it to poison wells, or food, or arms, is wholly excluded from modern warfare. He that uses it puts himself out of the pale of the law and usages of war.”
Brussels Declaration
Article 13(a) of the 1874 Brussels Declaration states that “[e]mployment of poison or poisoned weapons” is especially forbidden.
Oxford Manual
Article 8(a) of the 1880 Oxford Manual provides: “It is forbidden … to make use of poison, in any form whatever.”
Oxford Manual of Naval War
Article 16(1) of the 1913 Oxford Manual of Naval War provides: “It is forbidden … to employ poison or poisoned weapons.”
Report of the Commission on Responsibility
Based on several documents supplying evidence of outrages committed during the First World War, the 1919 Report of the Commission on Responsibility lists violations of the laws and customs of war which should be subject to criminal prosecution, including the “poisoning of wells”.
ICTY Statute
Article 3(a) of the 1993 ICTY Statute lists “employment of poisonous weapons” as a violation of the laws or customs of war to be subject to the jurisdiction of the Court.
ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind (1996)
Pursuant to Article 20(e)(i) of the 1996 ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind, “[e]mployment of poisonous weapons” is a war crime.
UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15
The UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15 establishes panels with exclusive jurisdiction over serious criminal offences, including war crimes. According to Section 6(1)(b)(xvii), “[e]mploying poison or poisoned weapons” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.

mate you're killing and looting in jordan and you're trying to make us the bad guys cause we're defending people with extra deadly weapons? atleast we don't drag political opponents and put them in cages, i propose a proceeding against you

Electorate wrote:We believe that Shakadia is using poisoned weapons and would like to bring a proceeding against them in the International Court of Justice or in the International Criminal Court. Thus, we suggest a motion to condemn Shakadia.

The following makes clear our argument from a legal standpoint:
Practice Relating to Rule 72. Poison and Poisoned Weapons
I. Treaties
Hague Regulations (1899)
Article 23(a) of the 1899 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially prohibited … to employ poison or poisoned arms.”
Hague Regulations (1907)
Article 23(a) of the 1907 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially forbidden … to employ poison or poisoned weapons.”
ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xvii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “[e]mploying poison or poisoned weapons” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.
ICC Statute
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(e)(xiii) of the ICC Rome Statute, as amended in 2010, “[e]mploying poison and poisoned weapons” constitutes a war crime also in non-international armed conflicts.
II. Other Instruments
Lieber Code
Article 70 of the 1863 Lieber Code provides: “The use of poison in any manner, be it to poison wells, or food, or arms, is wholly excluded from modern warfare. He that uses it puts himself out of the pale of the law and usages of war.”
Brussels Declaration
Article 13(a) of the 1874 Brussels Declaration states that “[e]mployment of poison or poisoned weapons” is especially forbidden.
Oxford Manual
Article 8(a) of the 1880 Oxford Manual provides: “It is forbidden … to make use of poison, in any form whatever.”
Oxford Manual of Naval War
Article 16(1) of the 1913 Oxford Manual of Naval War provides: “It is forbidden … to employ poison or poisoned weapons.”
Report of the Commission on Responsibility
Based on several documents supplying evidence of outrages committed during the First World War, the 1919 Report of the Commission on Responsibility lists violations of the laws and customs of war which should be subject to criminal prosecution, including the “poisoning of wells”.
ICTY Statute
Article 3(a) of the 1993 ICTY Statute lists “employment of poisonous weapons” as a violation of the laws or customs of war to be subject to the jurisdiction of the Court.
ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind (1996)
Pursuant to Article 20(e)(i) of the 1996 ILC Draft Code of Crimes against the Peace and Security of Mankind, “[e]mployment of poisonous weapons” is a war crime.
UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15
The UNTAET Regulation No. 2000/15 establishes panels with exclusive jurisdiction over serious criminal offences, including war crimes. According to Section 6(1)(b)(xvii), “[e]mploying poison or poisoned weapons” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.

so you want to tell me that using weapons to kill enemy soldiers in a war is illegal? so wait you're telling me that you attacking my soldiers and me attacking your soldiers is normal and they're both still killing each other is okay while you're killing civilians and that me getting better weapons to attack your soldiers with is bad? alright r/logic